On June 27 2021 04:09 Charoisaur wrote:
those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark
those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark
called it.
Imagine that were 20 Corruptors...
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Charoisaur
Germany15826 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:09 Charoisaur wrote: those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark called it. Imagine that were 20 Corruptors... | ||
Durnuu
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5818 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8979 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:16 Nakajin wrote: Zest executed his gameplan from A to Z perfectly here, what a response to a 12 pool it was all calculated | ||
Shathe
Hungary422 Posts
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ZombieGrub
United States686 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:16 Nakajin wrote: Zest executed his gameplan from A to Z perfectly here, what a response to a 12 pool Take notes Protoss players. | ||
Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:12 Xain0n wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2021 03:50 Morbidius wrote: On June 27 2021 03:44 Vindicare605 wrote: On June 27 2021 03:34 Xain0n wrote: On June 27 2021 03:06 stilt wrote: On June 27 2021 02:57 Morbidius wrote: On June 27 2021 02:56 Nakajin wrote: On June 27 2021 02:54 Xain0n wrote: The downward trend in Serral's level is indeed alarming but it's not like we have never seen players recovering from a slump before... Y'a but for Serral it seems like a very very slow but steady decline in the last two and a half year. A very slow decline which became a free fall after that reverse sweep against Trap. His practise games seem really good accorting to both his mmr and the echo from other top players (denver, marinelord praised him lately) but on tournament he seems clearly past his prime. This is more like 2017 Serral. Well, until 2020 Serral didn't really start declining imho; there were tournaments he didn't play at the absurd standard of his golden age in 2018(but even then there were less brilliant ones like Montreal); he lost clutchness for sure in 2019, Serral lost pretty much every important tournament in the last map of very hard fought series and he also suffered from Reynor's growth. Post pandemic Serral wasn't the same, mostly developing a weakness in ZvZ. Those last results in June seem to indicate he's dropped even below that but I still wouldn't say he's back at what he was in 2017, I'd say he's maybe more like pre ascension in 2018. I can't say for sure but I have hope that Serral will be back to winning tournaments, even if his career is already extremely impressive and successful and we could still be satisfied if it ended tomorrow. Serral started declining when Zerg was nerfed from its overpowered state. That's the part fanboys like you will never admit. Serral hasn't been invincible since the Infestor, the Queen and Creep was nerfed. Reynor however is getting better and better proving that Zerg is not over nerfed too. It's only Serral specifically that has noticeably declined since those nerfs. He keeps proping up this ''ZvZ weakness'' bullshit when things went south for Serral as soon as Zerg wasn't massively favored in non mirrors. Even the periods where he admits the decline line up perfectly with balance changes that hurt Zerg. That's just so wrong you two don't even deserve a detailed answer, which has also been given many times already before. Instead of spewing out senselessness, go check yourself on Aligulac which matchup Serral got sensibly worse at after 2020 and also go check who won the majority of his Premier titles during the "Zerg op" days in 2019(spoiler: it's not Serral). Who's the 2019 imbalance abuser? The guy who bitchslapped Serral all year or the guy who won a GSL last month while Serral can't get on a podium on EU?? | ||
stilt
France2709 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:15 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2021 04:09 Charoisaur wrote: those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark called it. Imagine that were 20 Corruptors... He never had the eco for those tho, his only chance was Zest messing up. | ||
starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:21 stilt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2021 04:15 Charoisaur wrote: On June 27 2021 04:09 Charoisaur wrote: those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark called it. Imagine that were 20 Corruptors... He never had the eco for those tho, his only chance was Zest messing up. which to be fair is not the worst position to be in lol, Zest makes...interesting decisions sometimes | ||
stilt
France2709 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:23 starkiller123 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2021 04:21 stilt wrote: On June 27 2021 04:15 Charoisaur wrote: On June 27 2021 04:09 Charoisaur wrote: those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark called it. Imagine that were 20 Corruptors... He never had the eco for those tho, his only chance was Zest messing up. which to be fair is not the worst position to be in lol, Zest makes...interesting decisions sometimes Yes totally ^^ The hold position lurkers, then zelotes... this game was pretty scrappy and funny. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8979 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:27 stilt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2021 04:23 starkiller123 wrote: On June 27 2021 04:21 stilt wrote: On June 27 2021 04:15 Charoisaur wrote: On June 27 2021 04:09 Charoisaur wrote: those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark called it. Imagine that were 20 Corruptors... He never had the eco for those tho, his only chance was Zest messing up. which to be fair is not the worst position to be in lol, Zest makes...interesting decisions sometimes Yes totally ^^ The hold position lurkers, then zelotes... this game was pretty scrappy and funny. The hold position zelots were inexplicable, I really want someone to ask Zest about it afterward. | ||
starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:29 Nakajin wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2021 04:27 stilt wrote: On June 27 2021 04:23 starkiller123 wrote: On June 27 2021 04:21 stilt wrote: On June 27 2021 04:15 Charoisaur wrote: On June 27 2021 04:09 Charoisaur wrote: those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark called it. Imagine that were 20 Corruptors... He never had the eco for those tho, his only chance was Zest messing up. which to be fair is not the worst position to be in lol, Zest makes...interesting decisions sometimes Yes totally ^^ The hold position lurkers, then zelotes... this game was pretty scrappy and funny. The hold position zelots were inexplicable, I really want someone to ask Zest about it afterward. I'm sure he just forgot | ||
Nakajin
Canada8979 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:29 starkiller123 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2021 04:29 Nakajin wrote: On June 27 2021 04:27 stilt wrote: On June 27 2021 04:23 starkiller123 wrote: On June 27 2021 04:21 stilt wrote: On June 27 2021 04:15 Charoisaur wrote: On June 27 2021 04:09 Charoisaur wrote: those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark called it. Imagine that were 20 Corruptors... He never had the eco for those tho, his only chance was Zest messing up. which to be fair is not the worst position to be in lol, Zest makes...interesting decisions sometimes Yes totally ^^ The hold position lurkers, then zelotes... this game was pretty scrappy and funny. The hold position zelots were inexplicable, I really want someone to ask Zest about it afterward. I'm sure he just forgot Nah but like how were they on hold position to begin with, is that a thing? | ||
Durnuu
13315 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:30 Nakajin wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2021 04:29 starkiller123 wrote: On June 27 2021 04:29 Nakajin wrote: On June 27 2021 04:27 stilt wrote: On June 27 2021 04:23 starkiller123 wrote: On June 27 2021 04:21 stilt wrote: On June 27 2021 04:15 Charoisaur wrote: On June 27 2021 04:09 Charoisaur wrote: those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark called it. Imagine that were 20 Corruptors... He never had the eco for those tho, his only chance was Zest messing up. which to be fair is not the worst position to be in lol, Zest makes...interesting decisions sometimes Yes totally ^^ The hold position lurkers, then zelotes... this game was pretty scrappy and funny. The hold position zelots were inexplicable, I really want someone to ask Zest about it afterward. I'm sure he just forgot Nah but like how were they on hold position to begin with, is that a thing? yeah I don't have an explanation haha | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15826 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:21 stilt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2021 04:15 Charoisaur wrote: On June 27 2021 04:09 Charoisaur wrote: those hydras are useless at this point. They will lose it for Dark called it. Imagine that were 20 Corruptors... He never had the eco for those tho, his only chance was Zest messing up. I think one of his hydra remaxes could've been Corruptors | ||
Fanatic-Templar
Canada5818 Posts
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Captain Peabody
United States3088 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5818 Posts
On June 27 2021 04:37 Captain Peabody wrote: zest new pvz master Drunken Master. | ||
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