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stilt
France2755 Posts
On June 27 2021 02:57 Morbidius wrote: A very slow decline which became a free fall after that reverse sweep against Trap. His practise games seem really good accorting to both his mmr and the echo from other top players (denver, marinelord praised him lately) but on tournament he seems clearly past his prime. This is more like 2017 Serral. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
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Durnuu
13326 Posts
On June 27 2021 03:32 Vindicare605 wrote: Ah damn, I missed Cure smash Serral. At least I'll get to see Trap vs Reynor. Trap vs Reynor is tomorrow so you might just miss it as well  | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On June 27 2021 03:06 stilt wrote: His practise games seem really good accorting to both his mmr and the echo from other top players (denver, marinelord praised him lately) but on tournament he seems clearly past his prime. This is more like 2017 Serral. Well, until 2020 Serral didn't really start declining imho; there were tournaments he didn't play at the absurd standard of his golden age in 2018(but even then there were less brilliant ones like Montreal); he lost clutchness for sure in 2019, Serral lost pretty much every important tournament in the last map of very hard fought series and he also suffered from Reynor's growth. Post pandemic Serral wasn't the same, mostly developing a weakness in ZvZ. Those last results in June seem to indicate he's dropped even below that but I still wouldn't say he's back at what he was in 2017, I'd say he's maybe more like pre ascension in 2018. I can't say for sure but I have hope that Serral will be back to winning tournaments, even if his career is already extremely impressive and successful and we could still be satisfied if it ended tomorrow. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
On June 27 2021 03:33 Durnuu wrote: Trap vs Reynor is tomorrow so you might just miss it as well I have to open the bar tomorrow. So I probably will  | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2467 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
On June 27 2021 03:34 Xain0n wrote: Well, until 2020 Serral didn't really start declining imho; there were tournaments he didn't play at the absurd standard of his golden age in 2018(but even then there were less brilliant ones like Montreal); he lost clutchness for sure in 2019, Serral lost pretty much every important tournament in the last map of very hard fought series and he also suffered from Reynor's growth. Post pandemic Serral wasn't the same, mostly developing a weakness in ZvZ. Those last results in June seem to indicate he's dropped even below that but I still wouldn't say he's back at what he was in 2017, I'd say he's maybe more like pre ascension in 2018. I can't say for sure but I have hope that Serral will be back to winning tournaments, even if his career is already extremely impressive and successful and we could still be satisfied if it ended tomorrow. Serral started declining when Zerg was nerfed from its overpowered state. That's the part fanboys like you will never admit. Serral hasn't been invincible since the Infestor, the Queen and Creep was nerfed. Reynor however is getting better and better proving that Zerg is not over nerfed too. It's only Serral specifically that has noticeably declined since those nerfs. | ||
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sneakyfox
8218 Posts
On June 27 2021 03:44 Vindicare605 wrote: Serral started declining when Zerg was nerfed from its overpowered state. That's the part fanboys like you will never admit. And it's clearly only Xainon who makes the LR threads descend into flame wars. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On June 27 2021 03:44 Vindicare605 wrote: Serral started declining when Zerg was nerfed from its overpowered state. That's the part fanboys like you will never admit. Serral hasn't been invincible since the Infestor, the Queen and Creep was nerfed. Reynor however is getting better and better proving that Zerg is not over nerfed too. It's only Serral specifically that has noticeably declined since those nerfs. He keeps proping up this ''ZvZ weakness'' bullshit when things went south for Serral as soon as Zerg wasn't massively favored in non mirrors. Even the periods where he admits the decline line up perfectly with balance changes that hurt Zerg. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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GoloSC2
713 Posts
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sneakyfox
8218 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On June 27 2021 03:58 sneakyfox wrote: Btw how did it go with TLO's two first predictions? Two times #true, shockingly. | ||
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