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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 18:06:49
June 26 2021 18:06 GMT
#81
On June 27 2021 02:57 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2021 02:56 Nakajin wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:54 Xain0n wrote:
The downward trend in Serral's level is indeed alarming but it's not like we have never seen players recovering from a slump before...


Y'a but for Serral it seems like a very very slow but steady decline in the last two and a half year.

A very slow decline which became a free fall after that reverse sweep against Trap.


His practise games seem really good accorting to both his mmr and the echo from other top players (denver, marinelord praised him lately) but on tournament he seems clearly past his prime.
This is more like 2017 Serral.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
June 26 2021 18:08 GMT
#82
I had a feeling this would be a true fiesta series lol
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 26 2021 18:14 GMT
#83
Pretty cool Stasis Trap again.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 26 2021 18:31 GMT
#84
I've really enjoyed watching Trap's Stasis Traps today :D.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
June 26 2021 18:32 GMT
#85
Ah damn, I missed Cure smash Serral. At least I'll get to see Trap vs Reynor.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 26 2021 18:33 GMT
#86
On June 27 2021 03:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ah damn, I missed Cure smash Serral. At least I'll get to see Trap vs Reynor.

Trap vs Reynor is tomorrow so you might just miss it as well
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 26 2021 18:34 GMT
#87
On June 27 2021 03:06 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2021 02:57 Morbidius wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:56 Nakajin wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:54 Xain0n wrote:
The downward trend in Serral's level is indeed alarming but it's not like we have never seen players recovering from a slump before...


Y'a but for Serral it seems like a very very slow but steady decline in the last two and a half year.

A very slow decline which became a free fall after that reverse sweep against Trap.


His practise games seem really good accorting to both his mmr and the echo from other top players (denver, marinelord praised him lately) but on tournament he seems clearly past his prime.
This is more like 2017 Serral.


Well, until 2020 Serral didn't really start declining imho; there were tournaments he didn't play at the absurd standard of his golden age in 2018(but even then there were less brilliant ones like Montreal); he lost clutchness for sure in 2019, Serral lost pretty much every important tournament in the last map of very hard fought series and he also suffered from Reynor's growth. Post pandemic Serral wasn't the same, mostly developing a weakness in ZvZ.

Those last results in June seem to indicate he's dropped even below that but I still wouldn't say he's back at what he was in 2017, I'd say he's maybe more like pre ascension in 2018.

I can't say for sure but I have hope that Serral will be back to winning tournaments, even if his career is already extremely impressive and successful and we could still be satisfied if it ended tomorrow.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
June 26 2021 18:35 GMT
#88
On June 27 2021 03:33 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2021 03:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
Ah damn, I missed Cure smash Serral. At least I'll get to see Trap vs Reynor.

Trap vs Reynor is tomorrow so you might just miss it as well


I have to open the bar tomorrow. So I probably will
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 18:38:58
June 26 2021 18:37 GMT
#89
Dark was just too late to make infestors for microbial shrouds. I think Rogue has used the microbial queen walk successfully against Stats last time in Katowice.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
June 26 2021 18:44 GMT
#90
On June 27 2021 03:34 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2021 03:06 stilt wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:57 Morbidius wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:56 Nakajin wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:54 Xain0n wrote:
The downward trend in Serral's level is indeed alarming but it's not like we have never seen players recovering from a slump before...


Y'a but for Serral it seems like a very very slow but steady decline in the last two and a half year.

A very slow decline which became a free fall after that reverse sweep against Trap.


His practise games seem really good accorting to both his mmr and the echo from other top players (denver, marinelord praised him lately) but on tournament he seems clearly past his prime.
This is more like 2017 Serral.


Well, until 2020 Serral didn't really start declining imho; there were tournaments he didn't play at the absurd standard of his golden age in 2018(but even then there were less brilliant ones like Montreal); he lost clutchness for sure in 2019, Serral lost pretty much every important tournament in the last map of very hard fought series and he also suffered from Reynor's growth. Post pandemic Serral wasn't the same, mostly developing a weakness in ZvZ.

Those last results in June seem to indicate he's dropped even below that but I still wouldn't say he's back at what he was in 2017, I'd say he's maybe more like pre ascension in 2018.

I can't say for sure but I have hope that Serral will be back to winning tournaments, even if his career is already extremely impressive and successful and we could still be satisfied if it ended tomorrow.


Serral started declining when Zerg was nerfed from its overpowered state. That's the part fanboys like you will never admit.

Serral hasn't been invincible since the Infestor, the Queen and Creep was nerfed.

Reynor however is getting better and better proving that Zerg is not over nerfed too. It's only Serral specifically that has noticeably declined since those nerfs.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 18:47:05
June 26 2021 18:46 GMT
#91
On June 27 2021 03:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2021 03:34 Xain0n wrote:
On June 27 2021 03:06 stilt wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:57 Morbidius wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:56 Nakajin wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:54 Xain0n wrote:
The downward trend in Serral's level is indeed alarming but it's not like we have never seen players recovering from a slump before...


Y'a but for Serral it seems like a very very slow but steady decline in the last two and a half year.

A very slow decline which became a free fall after that reverse sweep against Trap.


His practise games seem really good accorting to both his mmr and the echo from other top players (denver, marinelord praised him lately) but on tournament he seems clearly past his prime.
This is more like 2017 Serral.


Well, until 2020 Serral didn't really start declining imho; there were tournaments he didn't play at the absurd standard of his golden age in 2018(but even then there were less brilliant ones like Montreal); he lost clutchness for sure in 2019, Serral lost pretty much every important tournament in the last map of very hard fought series and he also suffered from Reynor's growth. Post pandemic Serral wasn't the same, mostly developing a weakness in ZvZ.

Those last results in June seem to indicate he's dropped even below that but I still wouldn't say he's back at what he was in 2017, I'd say he's maybe more like pre ascension in 2018.

I can't say for sure but I have hope that Serral will be back to winning tournaments, even if his career is already extremely impressive and successful and we could still be satisfied if it ended tomorrow.


Serral started declining when Zerg was nerfed from its overpowered state. That's the part fanboys like you will never admit.


And it's clearly only Xainon who makes the LR threads descend into flame wars.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 26 2021 18:49 GMT
#92
Does serral have any issues with his wrists or something? Seeing this decline is kinda sad
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 18:54:51
June 26 2021 18:50 GMT
#93
On June 27 2021 03:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2021 03:34 Xain0n wrote:
On June 27 2021 03:06 stilt wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:57 Morbidius wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:56 Nakajin wrote:
On June 27 2021 02:54 Xain0n wrote:
The downward trend in Serral's level is indeed alarming but it's not like we have never seen players recovering from a slump before...


Y'a but for Serral it seems like a very very slow but steady decline in the last two and a half year.

A very slow decline which became a free fall after that reverse sweep against Trap.


His practise games seem really good accorting to both his mmr and the echo from other top players (denver, marinelord praised him lately) but on tournament he seems clearly past his prime.
This is more like 2017 Serral.


Well, until 2020 Serral didn't really start declining imho; there were tournaments he didn't play at the absurd standard of his golden age in 2018(but even then there were less brilliant ones like Montreal); he lost clutchness for sure in 2019, Serral lost pretty much every important tournament in the last map of very hard fought series and he also suffered from Reynor's growth. Post pandemic Serral wasn't the same, mostly developing a weakness in ZvZ.

Those last results in June seem to indicate he's dropped even below that but I still wouldn't say he's back at what he was in 2017, I'd say he's maybe more like pre ascension in 2018.

I can't say for sure but I have hope that Serral will be back to winning tournaments, even if his career is already extremely impressive and successful and we could still be satisfied if it ended tomorrow.


Serral started declining when Zerg was nerfed from its overpowered state. That's the part fanboys like you will never admit.

Serral hasn't been invincible since the Infestor, the Queen and Creep was nerfed.

Reynor however is getting better and better proving that Zerg is not over nerfed too. It's only Serral specifically that has noticeably declined since those nerfs.

He keeps proping up this ''ZvZ weakness'' bullshit when things went south for Serral as soon as Zerg wasn't massively favored in non mirrors. Even the periods where he admits the decline line up perfectly with balance changes that hurt Zerg.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 18:51:58
June 26 2021 18:51 GMT
#94
Double post sorry.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 26 2021 18:54 GMT
#95
Disruptors finally coming.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 26 2021 18:56 GMT
#96
Devastating Hold Position Lurkers. This game is amazing.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
June 26 2021 18:56 GMT
#97
Dark is so clutch.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
June 26 2021 18:57 GMT
#98
this game is entertaining for the same reasons diamond-level games can be entertaining
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 26 2021 18:58 GMT
#99
Btw how did it go with TLO's two first predictions?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
June 26 2021 18:58 GMT
#100
On June 27 2021 03:58 sneakyfox wrote:
Btw how did it go with TLO's two first predictions?

Two times #true, shockingly.
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