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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2021 17:48 GMT
#901
On March 01 2021 02:46 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:45 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:44 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
if the tournament has been good does that mean we get a trash final or a good final?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the final being PvZ may have the most influence there

Katowice has the worst finals history of every tournament tbh

It hasn’t had much luck there for sure.

Just instinctively I’d say GSL has on average the worst finals, but as there are 3 a year you get some real classics too.

let's just admit that in general finals are pretty disappointing


Lets abolish final and just do round robin into a winner like EU soccer.

We can just pick a match and make it the final and not tell the players. After the fact we go to Reynor like surprise you beat Dark here's the trophy.


Ohh that's good
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 28 2021 17:48 GMT
#902
On March 01 2021 02:46 Teoita wrote:
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On March 01 2021 02:42 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:34 Teoita wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:33 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:31 Husyelt wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:27 Charoisaur wrote:
if Reynor wins, will that make him the 2nd greatest player of all time after Serral?

He’ll become second biggest villain in your anime yes


Nah come on Zest is the anime vilain, the young but inexperience up and comer full of energy, the grizzly old veteran doing his final run supported by the power of friendship and finally the protagonist. That's classic shonen stuff


Also Protoss are villains by default. Especially if they play like Zest


Protoss are the heroes fighting to protect a world that hates and fears them.


That's not how two thirds of the communities sees us unfortunately. In which case, you might as well embrace the darkness like Parting and Zest have.


Yeah, but it's no surprise to me that most people would choose a comfortable and familiar evil over an strange and scary good.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 17:49:32
February 28 2021 17:48 GMT
#903
On March 01 2021 02:43 Darkhorse wrote:
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On March 01 2021 02:41 swarminfestor wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:39 Aesto wrote:
To those worried that Parting's GF sitting next to him could help him cheat: there is a myriad of other ways this could be done in an online tournament, it's just impossible to police them all. For example, any player could output their screen to two monitors at the same time, and have someone sit on the other one off-camera. Or write a program to watch parts of your screen (i.e. minimap, resources) for you and make a sound alert when there is movement on the minimap (doesn't even require proper machine learning, you could throw something rule-based together that would work fine) - again, this would be really easy to do. Unless the games are played on computers provided by ESL, and in a room they monitor, you simply cannot prevent this 100%. If anything, having her sit there in plain view is evidence that there is nothing to hide.


Is there any rumour saying that Parting is cheating?

I don't think so. I brought up yesterday that having no rules in place is probably not good given the possibility of cheating but I also reiterated that I def don't think he is

Also it's a fair point that policing it for an online event is probably crazy hard unless you have refs in every country players are participating from lol


Now, I feel good. Yeah, that is kind of drawback from playing online tournament. I dont think Parting was cheating because he didn't respond to the Zest's proxy gateway/stargate quickly, let say, if someone nearby told him the location.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 17:50:13
February 28 2021 17:49 GMT
#904
On March 01 2021 02:46 mierin wrote:
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On March 01 2021 02:43 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:41 swarminfestor wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:39 Aesto wrote:
To those worried that Parting's GF sitting next to him could help him cheat: there is a myriad of other ways this could be done in an online tournament, it's just impossible to police them all. For example, any player could output their screen to two monitors at the same time, and have someone sit on the other one off-camera. Or write a program to watch parts of your screen (i.e. minimap, resources) for you and make a sound alert when there is movement on the minimap (doesn't even require proper machine learning, you could throw something rule-based together that would work fine) - again, this would be really easy to do. Unless the games are played on computers provided by ESL, and in a room they monitor, you simply cannot prevent this 100%. If anything, having her sit there in plain view is evidence that there is nothing to hide.


Is there any rumour saying that Parting is cheating?

no
people just dislike someone else being in the "booth" wiht the players


This is it exactly. You don't even have to drive to the studio like normal, is it too much to ask to be in a secluded room, or at least the appearance of one to seem professional? You have all day to socialize with other people at home, knock it off while you are on camera playing games professionally.

It's worse in CSGO. There have been high profile matches where teams not only have their whole squad in the room with them but you can see them in their phones or literally watching the stream live on other screens. There's nothing stopping them from saying something out loud or chatting between rounds
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 28 2021 17:50 GMT
#905
wow no long break this really is the greatest tournament of all time :clown:
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 17:51:51
February 28 2021 17:51 GMT
#906
I would bet the stream is delayed several minutes to avoid most of the cheating.
Edit: that I think is not happening anyway
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Aesto
Profile Joined September 2014
44 Posts
February 28 2021 17:51 GMT
#907
On March 01 2021 02:41 swarminfestor wrote:
Is there any rumour saying that Parting is cheating?

I specifically wrote "could help him cheat" so as to not suggest that :/ Also, there might be more cause to worry about something like that if SC2 was still a new esport. But all of these guys have won multiple championships before, throwing away their careers and reputations for just one more tournament win would be stupid. Plus, all the Koreans remember what happened to their scene when Life matchfixed, can't imagine they would want to be the guy to kill it off for good, never mind face the same consequences as Life did.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 17:52:19
February 28 2021 17:51 GMT
#908
On March 01 2021 02:50 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
wow no long break this really is the greatest tournament of all time :clown:


Gotta give the CSGO stream that sweet sweet host before their final
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
February 28 2021 17:52 GMT
#909
A few more matches?
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7166 Posts
February 28 2021 17:53 GMT
#910
On March 01 2021 02:51 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:50 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
wow no long break this really is the greatest tournament of all time :clown:


Gotta give the CSGO stream that sweet sweet host before their final

CSGO final is already in g4.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 28 2021 17:53 GMT
#911
Is there a 8 player FFA
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 17:55:38
February 28 2021 17:54 GMT
#912
On March 01 2021 02:53 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Is there a 8 player FFA


Oh god please no

Isn't asking Korea to spell Katowice like asking foreigner to spell Seoul but in Korean?
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 28 2021 17:54 GMT
#913
Zest you already are a soldier.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 28 2021 17:56 GMT
#914
Good to hear that Maru is well.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
February 28 2021 17:56 GMT
#915
If Reynor wins, is he a greater player than Serral? This run would be harder than Serral's BlizzCon
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 28 2021 17:56 GMT
#916
4 : Submarine
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 28 2021 17:58 GMT
#917
On March 01 2021 02:56 Waxangel wrote:
If Reynor wins, is he a greater player than Serral? This run would be harder than Serral's BlizzCon


The more important question is: If Reynor loses, is he worse than me?

I've never lost an IEM final.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26734 Posts
February 28 2021 17:58 GMT
#918
I’d assume especially in the Korean scene with players knowing each other the thought of anyone trying to cheat in that manner wouldn’t really cross their minds.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 28 2021 17:58 GMT
#919
feelsbad we didnt get rotti and demu casting the finals, they are the best duo imo
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 28 2021 17:58 GMT
#920
On March 01 2021 02:56 Waxangel wrote:
If Reynor wins, is he a greater player than Serral? This run would be harder than Serral's BlizzCon

Stats Dark Maru Zest is pretty much as hard as it gets indeed
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