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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 17:41:05
February 28 2021 17:40 GMT
#881
On March 01 2021 02:40 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:39 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
if the tournament has been good does that mean we get a trash final or a good final?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the final being PvZ may have the most influence there

Katowice has the worst finals if every tournament tbh


Classic-TY was great


Forgetting Stats? You barbarian.


Oups, I was 100% sure it was Classic not gonna lie
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 28 2021 17:41 GMT
#882
On March 01 2021 02:39 Aesto wrote:
To those worried that Parting's GF sitting next to him could help him cheat: there is a myriad of other ways this could be done in an online tournament, it's just impossible to police them all. For example, any player could output their screen to two monitors at the same time, and have someone sit on the other one off-camera. Or write a program to watch parts of your screen (i.e. minimap, resources) for you and make a sound alert when there is movement on the minimap (doesn't even require proper machine learning, you could throw something rule-based together that would work fine) - again, this would be really easy to do. Unless the games are played on computers provided by ESL, and in a room they monitor, you simply cannot prevent this 100%. If anything, having her sit there in plain view is evidence that there is nothing to hide.


No. If there's someone else in the room at least don't have them show up on camera...
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
February 28 2021 17:41 GMT
#883
On March 01 2021 02:39 Aesto wrote:
To those worried that Parting's GF sitting next to him could help him cheat: there is a myriad of other ways this could be done in an online tournament, it's just impossible to police them all. For example, any player could output their screen to two monitors at the same time, and have someone sit on the other one off-camera. Or write a program to watch parts of your screen (i.e. minimap, resources) for you and make a sound alert when there is movement on the minimap (doesn't even require proper machine learning, you could throw something rule-based together that would work fine) - again, this would be really easy to do. Unless the games are played on computers provided by ESL, and in a room they monitor, you simply cannot prevent this 100%. If anything, having her sit there in plain view is evidence that there is nothing to hide.


Is there any rumour saying that Parting is cheating?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 28 2021 17:42 GMT
#884
On March 01 2021 02:39 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:38 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
if the tournament has been good does that mean we get a trash final or a good final?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the final being PvZ may have the most influence there

Katowice has the worst finals history of every tournament tbh


2017 was amazing though.

2017 was great and every other Katowice is not worth watching except for narrative reasons like soO or sOs
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 28 2021 17:42 GMT
#885
On March 01 2021 02:34 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:33 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:31 Husyelt wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:27 Charoisaur wrote:
if Reynor wins, will that make him the 2nd greatest player of all time after Serral?

He’ll become second biggest villain in your anime yes


Nah come on Zest is the anime vilain, the young but inexperience up and comer full of energy, the grizzly old veteran doing his final run supported by the power of friendship and finally the protagonist. That's classic shonen stuff


Also Protoss are villains by default. Especially if they play like Zest


Protoss are the heroes fighting to protect a world that hates and fears them.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 28 2021 17:43 GMT
#886
On March 01 2021 02:41 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:39 Aesto wrote:
To those worried that Parting's GF sitting next to him could help him cheat: there is a myriad of other ways this could be done in an online tournament, it's just impossible to police them all. For example, any player could output their screen to two monitors at the same time, and have someone sit on the other one off-camera. Or write a program to watch parts of your screen (i.e. minimap, resources) for you and make a sound alert when there is movement on the minimap (doesn't even require proper machine learning, you could throw something rule-based together that would work fine) - again, this would be really easy to do. Unless the games are played on computers provided by ESL, and in a room they monitor, you simply cannot prevent this 100%. If anything, having her sit there in plain view is evidence that there is nothing to hide.


Is there any rumour saying that Parting is cheating?

no
people just dislike someone else being in the "booth" wiht the players
~~~~~
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 28 2021 17:43 GMT
#887
On March 01 2021 02:41 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:39 Aesto wrote:
To those worried that Parting's GF sitting next to him could help him cheat: there is a myriad of other ways this could be done in an online tournament, it's just impossible to police them all. For example, any player could output their screen to two monitors at the same time, and have someone sit on the other one off-camera. Or write a program to watch parts of your screen (i.e. minimap, resources) for you and make a sound alert when there is movement on the minimap (doesn't even require proper machine learning, you could throw something rule-based together that would work fine) - again, this would be really easy to do. Unless the games are played on computers provided by ESL, and in a room they monitor, you simply cannot prevent this 100%. If anything, having her sit there in plain view is evidence that there is nothing to hide.


Is there any rumour saying that Parting is cheating?

I don't think so. I brought up yesterday that having no rules in place is probably not good given the possibility of cheating but I also reiterated that I def don't think he is

Also it's a fair point that policing it for an online event is probably crazy hard unless you have refs in every country players are participating from lol
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
February 28 2021 17:43 GMT
#888
On March 01 2021 02:42 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:34 Teoita wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:33 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:31 Husyelt wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:27 Charoisaur wrote:
if Reynor wins, will that make him the 2nd greatest player of all time after Serral?

He’ll become second biggest villain in your anime yes


Nah come on Zest is the anime vilain, the young but inexperience up and comer full of energy, the grizzly old veteran doing his final run supported by the power of friendship and finally the protagonist. That's classic shonen stuff


Also Protoss are villains by default. Especially if they play like Zest


Protoss are the heroes fighting to protect a world that hates and fears them.

That's exactly the delusional thought I expected from a protoss player.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
February 28 2021 17:44 GMT
#889
Old guard vs. new hot kid on the block? There is 10 year age gap between them. Cant decide who to root for.
sunbeams are never made like me...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26270 Posts
February 28 2021 17:44 GMT
#890
On March 01 2021 02:38 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:38 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
if the tournament has been good does that mean we get a trash final or a good final?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the final being PvZ may have the most influence there

Katowice has the worst finals history of every tournament tbh

It hasn’t had much luck there for sure.

Just instinctively I’d say GSL has on average the worst finals, but as there are 3 a year you get some real classics too.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2021 17:44 GMT
#891
On March 01 2021 02:42 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:34 Teoita wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:33 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:31 Husyelt wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:27 Charoisaur wrote:
if Reynor wins, will that make him the 2nd greatest player of all time after Serral?

He’ll become second biggest villain in your anime yes


Nah come on Zest is the anime vilain, the young but inexperience up and comer full of energy, the grizzly old veteran doing his final run supported by the power of friendship and finally the protagonist. That's classic shonen stuff


Also Protoss are villains by default. Especially if they play like Zest


Protoss are the heroes fighting to protect a world that hates and fears them.


Every good villain need to believe himself the hero
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Devangel
Profile Joined March 2019
Russian Federation66 Posts
February 28 2021 17:44 GMT
#892
On March 01 2021 02:42 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:39 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
if the tournament has been good does that mean we get a trash final or a good final?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the final being PvZ may have the most influence there

Katowice has the worst finals history of every tournament tbh


2017 was amazing though.

2017 was great and every other Katowice is not worth watching except for narrative reasons like soO or sOs


Well this one was super great :D
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 28 2021 17:44 GMT
#893
On March 01 2021 02:44 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:38 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
if the tournament has been good does that mean we get a trash final or a good final?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the final being PvZ may have the most influence there

Katowice has the worst finals history of every tournament tbh

It hasn’t had much luck there for sure.

Just instinctively I’d say GSL has on average the worst finals, but as there are 3 a year you get some real classics too.

let's just admit that in general finals are pretty disappointing
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 28 2021 17:45 GMT
#894
On March 01 2021 02:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:44 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
if the tournament has been good does that mean we get a trash final or a good final?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the final being PvZ may have the most influence there

Katowice has the worst finals history of every tournament tbh

It hasn’t had much luck there for sure.

Just instinctively I’d say GSL has on average the worst finals, but as there are 3 a year you get some real classics too.

let's just admit that in general finals are pretty disappointing


Lets abolish final and just do round robin into a winner like EU soccer.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 28 2021 17:45 GMT
#895
On March 01 2021 02:44 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:38 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
if the tournament has been good does that mean we get a trash final or a good final?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the final being PvZ may have the most influence there

Katowice has the worst finals history of every tournament tbh

It hasn’t had much luck there for sure.

Just instinctively I’d say GSL has on average the worst finals, but as there are 3 a year you get some real classics too.

The worst GSL finals (Inca, Rogue) feel like standard Katowice finals honestly
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 28 2021 17:46 GMT
#896
On March 01 2021 02:42 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:34 Teoita wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:33 Nakajin wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:31 Husyelt wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:27 Charoisaur wrote:
if Reynor wins, will that make him the 2nd greatest player of all time after Serral?

He’ll become second biggest villain in your anime yes


Nah come on Zest is the anime vilain, the young but inexperience up and comer full of energy, the grizzly old veteran doing his final run supported by the power of friendship and finally the protagonist. That's classic shonen stuff


Also Protoss are villains by default. Especially if they play like Zest


Protoss are the heroes fighting to protect a world that hates and fears them.


That's not how two thirds of the communities sees us unfortunately. In which case, you might as well embrace the darkness like Parting and Zest have.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 28 2021 17:46 GMT
#897
On March 01 2021 02:44 outscar wrote:
Old guard vs. new hot kid on the block? There is 10 year age gap between them. Cant decide who to root for.

Reynor played his first Dreamhack in 2013 such a new kid lol
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 28 2021 17:46 GMT
#898
On March 01 2021 02:45 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:44 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 Fango wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:38 WombaT wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
if the tournament has been good does that mean we get a trash final or a good final?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the final being PvZ may have the most influence there

Katowice has the worst finals history of every tournament tbh

It hasn’t had much luck there for sure.

Just instinctively I’d say GSL has on average the worst finals, but as there are 3 a year you get some real classics too.

let's just admit that in general finals are pretty disappointing


Lets abolish final and just do round robin into a winner like EU soccer.

We can just pick a match and make it the final and not tell the players. After the fact we go to Reynor like surprise you beat Dark here's the trophy.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 17:47:29
February 28 2021 17:46 GMT
#899
On March 01 2021 02:43 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2021 02:41 swarminfestor wrote:
On March 01 2021 02:39 Aesto wrote:
To those worried that Parting's GF sitting next to him could help him cheat: there is a myriad of other ways this could be done in an online tournament, it's just impossible to police them all. For example, any player could output their screen to two monitors at the same time, and have someone sit on the other one off-camera. Or write a program to watch parts of your screen (i.e. minimap, resources) for you and make a sound alert when there is movement on the minimap (doesn't even require proper machine learning, you could throw something rule-based together that would work fine) - again, this would be really easy to do. Unless the games are played on computers provided by ESL, and in a room they monitor, you simply cannot prevent this 100%. If anything, having her sit there in plain view is evidence that there is nothing to hide.


Is there any rumour saying that Parting is cheating?

no
people just dislike someone else being in the "booth" wiht the players


This is it exactly. You don't even have to drive to the studio like normal, is it too much to ask to be in a secluded room, or at least the appearance of one to seem professional? You have all day to socialize with other people at home, knock it off while you are on camera playing games professionally.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
February 28 2021 17:47 GMT
#900
I don't have much faith on reynor's nydus build.
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