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France12912 Posts
On February 28 2021 03:02 darklycid wrote:
Zests pvt looked absolutely insane recently tho I think ppl are underestimating him a bit.
Both will have lag, but Zest will be playing at 3am+ so I think it makes it somewhat even. I'll root for Clem but I'm more scared than versus Serral for some reason.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 28 2021 02:59 mierin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 02:58 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 02:56 mpmaley86 wrote:On February 28 2021 02:55 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 02:54 mpmaley86 wrote:
I think it's bad optics to have someone in the room next to him, can't believe they didn't set that in the rules.
edit: Fantastic micro by parting in there at the end. please don't complain about "optics" unless you're going to make a legitimate complaints about competitive integrity as well Sorry, I might be being dense, what do you mean? if you don't actually think there's an actual competitive integrity problem of someone being in the room, then why do you care about the "optics" of it? There's certainly an integrity problem. What if this person actually knew a lot about starcraft, reminded the players to do things like upgrades, etc? It's preposterous to imagine someone's girlfriend sitting with them in the booth at a LAN, why is it less so to see someone else at a strictly 1v1 sport?
Eh, I actually think that having there a coach player would be a bad think. PLayers need to focus and the game has high tempo. having somebody backseat driving you will break your focus and get you out of the tempo. Unless you practiced it I don't think that on this level it would be any helpfull. I honestly believe it would be very harmful.
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Italy12246 Posts
On February 28 2021 03:04 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 02:59 mierin wrote:On February 28 2021 02:58 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 02:56 mpmaley86 wrote:On February 28 2021 02:55 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 02:54 mpmaley86 wrote:
I think it's bad optics to have someone in the room next to him, can't believe they didn't set that in the rules.
edit: Fantastic micro by parting in there at the end. please don't complain about "optics" unless you're going to make a legitimate complaints about competitive integrity as well Sorry, I might be being dense, what do you mean? if you don't actually think there's an actual competitive integrity problem of someone being in the room, then why do you care about the "optics" of it? There's certainly an integrity problem. What if this person actually knew a lot about starcraft, reminded the players to do things like upgrades, etc? It's preposterous to imagine someone's girlfriend sitting with them in the booth at a LAN, why is it less so to see someone else at a strictly 1v1 sport? Eh, I actually think that having there a coach player would be a bad think. PLayers need to focus and the game has high tempo. having somebody backseat driving you will break your focus and get you out of the tempo. Unless you practiced it I don't think that on this level it would be any helpfull. I honestly believe it would be very harmful.
Also it's the year of lord 2021 we're all stuck at home and therefore you can't enforce it anyway
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On February 28 2021 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:01 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 Doublemint wrote:
wow I see clem beat serral, is that considered a major upset these days? and how is his TvP? if it is "classic foreigner" level
or is Zest actually in danger? Zest is clearly in danger, I think he is gonna win but Clem pvt is really good. He is complete player nowadays. can't believe we're saying those things about a French Terran. Feels good ngl ^^
Yeah it's great, and despite their flaws, it's largely thanks to ogaming work !
I still admit on sc2 I generally privilege race over nation :p
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United States23455 Posts
Eh looks like my nightmare scenario Reynor vs Zest final might actually happen boo
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On February 28 2021 03:06 Darkhorse wrote:
Eh looks like my nightmare scenario Reynor vs Zest final might actually happen boo
Would Reynor vs PartinG final be any better?
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On February 28 2021 03:05 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:04 deacon.frost wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 mierin wrote:On February 28 2021 02:58 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 02:56 mpmaley86 wrote:On February 28 2021 02:55 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 02:54 mpmaley86 wrote:
I think it's bad optics to have someone in the room next to him, can't believe they didn't set that in the rules.
edit: Fantastic micro by parting in there at the end. please don't complain about "optics" unless you're going to make a legitimate complaints about competitive integrity as well Sorry, I might be being dense, what do you mean? if you don't actually think there's an actual competitive integrity problem of someone being in the room, then why do you care about the "optics" of it? There's certainly an integrity problem. What if this person actually knew a lot about starcraft, reminded the players to do things like upgrades, etc? It's preposterous to imagine someone's girlfriend sitting with them in the booth at a LAN, why is it less so to see someone else at a strictly 1v1 sport? Eh, I actually think that having there a coach player would be a bad think. PLayers need to focus and the game has high tempo. having somebody backseat driving you will break your focus and get you out of the tempo. Unless you practiced it I don't think that on this level it would be any helpfull. I honestly believe it would be very harmful. Also it's the year of lord 2021 we're all stuck at home and therefore you can't enforce it anyway
Well you can certainly disqualify people if it's obvious
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On February 28 2021 03:05 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:01 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 Doublemint wrote:
wow I see clem beat serral, is that considered a major upset these days? and how is his TvP? if it is "classic foreigner" level
or is Zest actually in danger? Zest is clearly in danger, I think he is gonna win but Clem pvt is really good. He is complete player nowadays. can't believe we're saying those things about a French Terran. Feels good ngl ^^ Yeah it's great, and despite their flaws, it's largely thanks to ogaming work ! I still admit on sc2 I generally privilege race over nation :p
hope they solved their connexion problems because I definitely want to see the Zest - Clem series on their stream
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Canada8989 Posts
On February 28 2021 03:06 Darkhorse wrote:
Eh looks like my nightmare scenario Reynor vs Zest final might actually happen boo
What about a Parting-Reynor one?
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On February 28 2021 03:03 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:02 sneakyfox wrote:On February 28 2021 03:01 Amumoman wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 Doublemint wrote:
wow I see clem beat serral, is that considered a major upset these days? and how is his TvP? if it is "classic foreigner" level
or is Zest actually in danger? Clem is looking like the best PvTer in Europe and Zest is playing cross-server so Zest has his work cut out for him Lol, Zest is also playing cross server. You mean Clem
Oh, are they alternating which server is being played on?
Liquipedia had me convinced all games were being played on eu (with exception of kr vs kr)
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United States23455 Posts
On February 28 2021 03:06 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:06 Darkhorse wrote:
Eh looks like my nightmare scenario Reynor vs Zest final might actually happen boo Would Reynor vs PartinG final be any better?
I'd slightly prefer it
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Italy12246 Posts
On February 28 2021 03:06 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:05 Teoita wrote:On February 28 2021 03:04 deacon.frost wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 mierin wrote:On February 28 2021 02:58 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 02:56 mpmaley86 wrote:On February 28 2021 02:55 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 02:54 mpmaley86 wrote:
I think it's bad optics to have someone in the room next to him, can't believe they didn't set that in the rules.
edit: Fantastic micro by parting in there at the end. please don't complain about "optics" unless you're going to make a legitimate complaints about competitive integrity as well Sorry, I might be being dense, what do you mean? if you don't actually think there's an actual competitive integrity problem of someone being in the room, then why do you care about the "optics" of it? There's certainly an integrity problem. What if this person actually knew a lot about starcraft, reminded the players to do things like upgrades, etc? It's preposterous to imagine someone's girlfriend sitting with them in the booth at a LAN, why is it less so to see someone else at a strictly 1v1 sport? Eh, I actually think that having there a coach player would be a bad think. PLayers need to focus and the game has high tempo. having somebody backseat driving you will break your focus and get you out of the tempo. Unless you practiced it I don't think that on this level it would be any helpfull. I honestly believe it would be very harmful. Also it's the year of lord 2021 we're all stuck at home and therefore you can't enforce it anyway Well you can certainly disqualify people if it's obvious
Disqualifying people for others showing up on camera would do absolutely nothing to prevent people from stream cheating, unless you forced the players to stream multiple cameras of their own room for the admins to stare at
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On February 28 2021 03:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:05 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:01 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 Doublemint wrote:
wow I see clem beat serral, is that considered a major upset these days? and how is his TvP? if it is "classic foreigner" level
or is Zest actually in danger? Zest is clearly in danger, I think he is gonna win but Clem pvt is really good. He is complete player nowadays. can't believe we're saying those things about a French Terran. Feels good ngl ^^ Yeah it's great, and despite their flaws, it's largely thanks to ogaming work ! I still admit on sc2 I generally privilege race over nation :p hope they solved their connexion problems because I definitely want to see the Zest - Clem series on their stream
I think of switching too. That said parting/ty casted by demuslim was really funny, you could feel the pain haha
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Okay, here we go, boys! Will the foreign terran hope stay strong? (Will Funka's voice last yet another 1 hour+ screaming session?)
During the Maru-Rogue game Funka said "Rogue is struggling to breathe under Maru's constant attacks, much like we casters struggle to breathe during a Bo5 between Clem and Serral"
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On February 28 2021 03:08 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:05 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:01 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 Doublemint wrote:
wow I see clem beat serral, is that considered a major upset these days? and how is his TvP? if it is "classic foreigner" level
or is Zest actually in danger? Zest is clearly in danger, I think he is gonna win but Clem pvt is really good. He is complete player nowadays. can't believe we're saying those things about a French Terran. Feels good ngl ^^ Yeah it's great, and despite their flaws, it's largely thanks to ogaming work ! I still admit on sc2 I generally privilege race over nation :p hope they solved their connexion problems because I definitely want to see the Zest - Clem series on their stream I think of switching too. That said parting/ty casted by demuslim was really funny, you could feel the pain haha
the series was probably painful for anyone who doesn't actively hates TY ^^
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On February 28 2021 03:08 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:06 Elentos wrote:On February 28 2021 03:05 Teoita wrote:On February 28 2021 03:04 deacon.frost wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 mierin wrote:On February 28 2021 02:58 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 02:56 mpmaley86 wrote:On February 28 2021 02:55 Waxangel wrote:On February 28 2021 02:54 mpmaley86 wrote:
I think it's bad optics to have someone in the room next to him, can't believe they didn't set that in the rules.
edit: Fantastic micro by parting in there at the end. please don't complain about "optics" unless you're going to make a legitimate complaints about competitive integrity as well Sorry, I might be being dense, what do you mean? if you don't actually think there's an actual competitive integrity problem of someone being in the room, then why do you care about the "optics" of it? There's certainly an integrity problem. What if this person actually knew a lot about starcraft, reminded the players to do things like upgrades, etc? It's preposterous to imagine someone's girlfriend sitting with them in the booth at a LAN, why is it less so to see someone else at a strictly 1v1 sport? Eh, I actually think that having there a coach player would be a bad think. PLayers need to focus and the game has high tempo. having somebody backseat driving you will break your focus and get you out of the tempo. Unless you practiced it I don't think that on this level it would be any helpfull. I honestly believe it would be very harmful. Also it's the year of lord 2021 we're all stuck at home and therefore you can't enforce it anyway Well you can certainly disqualify people if it's obvious Disqualifying people for others showing up on camera would do absolutely nothing to prevent people from stream cheating, unless you forced the players to stream multiple cameras of their own room for the admins to stare at
Chess tournament force the players to have 2 cameras around their rooms in order to prevent cheating, dunno if it is possible and I don't think it is very useful for sc2 but at least this solution exists...
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On February 28 2021 03:06 Amumoman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:03 geokilla wrote:On February 28 2021 03:02 sneakyfox wrote:On February 28 2021 03:01 Amumoman wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 Doublemint wrote:
wow I see clem beat serral, is that considered a major upset these days? and how is his TvP? if it is "classic foreigner" level
or is Zest actually in danger? Clem is looking like the best PvTer in Europe and Zest is playing cross-server so Zest has his work cut out for him Lol, Zest is also playing cross server. You mean Clem Oh, are they alternating which server is being played on? Liquipedia had me convinced all games were being played on eu (with exception of kr vs kr)
They will be playing on US west and central alternating.
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On February 28 2021 03:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:08 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 03:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:05 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:01 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 Doublemint wrote:
wow I see clem beat serral, is that considered a major upset these days? and how is his TvP? if it is "classic foreigner" level
or is Zest actually in danger? Zest is clearly in danger, I think he is gonna win but Clem pvt is really good. He is complete player nowadays. can't believe we're saying those things about a French Terran. Feels good ngl ^^ Yeah it's great, and despite their flaws, it's largely thanks to ogaming work ! I still admit on sc2 I generally privilege race over nation :p hope they solved their connexion problems because I definitely want to see the Zest - Clem series on their stream I think of switching too. That said parting/ty casted by demuslim was really funny, you could feel the pain haha the series was probably painful for anyone who doesn't actively hates TY ^^
I don't hate TY but I was cheering for Parting 
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On February 28 2021 03:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:08 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 03:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:05 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:01 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 Doublemint wrote:
wow I see clem beat serral, is that considered a major upset these days? and how is his TvP? if it is "classic foreigner" level
or is Zest actually in danger? Zest is clearly in danger, I think he is gonna win but Clem pvt is really good. He is complete player nowadays. can't believe we're saying those things about a French Terran. Feels good ngl ^^ Yeah it's great, and despite their flaws, it's largely thanks to ogaming work ! I still admit on sc2 I generally privilege race over nation :p hope they solved their connexion problems because I definitely want to see the Zest - Clem series on their stream I think of switching too. That said parting/ty casted by demuslim was really funny, you could feel the pain haha the series was probably painful for anyone who doesn't actively hates TY ^^
I don't actively hate Ty, but actively hate Terran in general. I assume that's good enough?
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On February 28 2021 03:11 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2021 03:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:08 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 03:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:05 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:On February 28 2021 03:01 stilt wrote:On February 28 2021 02:59 Doublemint wrote:
wow I see clem beat serral, is that considered a major upset these days? and how is his TvP? if it is "classic foreigner" level
or is Zest actually in danger? Zest is clearly in danger, I think he is gonna win but Clem pvt is really good. He is complete player nowadays. can't believe we're saying those things about a French Terran. Feels good ngl ^^ Yeah it's great, and despite their flaws, it's largely thanks to ogaming work ! I still admit on sc2 I generally privilege race over nation :p hope they solved their connexion problems because I definitely want to see the Zest - Clem series on their stream I think of switching too. That said parting/ty casted by demuslim was really funny, you could feel the pain haha the series was probably painful for anyone who doesn't actively hates TY ^^ I don't hate TY but I was cheering for Parting
I like TY and PartinG isn't my favorite player to put it nicely so let's say I didn't have too good a time ^^
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