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irvnasty
Profile Joined July 2019
United States211 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-14 00:08:40
December 14 2020 00:05 GMT
#361
On December 14 2020 09:04 Waxangel wrote:
How many OL's do you think the Queens have to kill for it to be worthwhile? 4? 5?


He had a total of 7 queens in 2 dropperlords not injecting... so 10? 12?

Which probably explains why it's not a thing.

EDIT: My answer is factoring in that they all die. If you mean that you somehow keep the queens alive, then 4 or 5 is probably about correct.
GuMiho | TY | TIME | AqueroN | Rogue | RagnaroK | Scarlett | sOs | Astrea
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
December 14 2020 00:05 GMT
#362
On December 14 2020 09:04 Waxangel wrote:
How many OL's do you think the Queens have to kill for it to be worthwhile? 4? 5?

well, you're losing out on creep spread, injects at home. I would say 4 or 5 OLs to break even. Also the lack of ling speed at the start of the game makes you vulnerable. What a terrible build.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4073 Posts
December 14 2020 00:11 GMT
#363
the key was Lambo saying they came up with “the build” today - how many practice games do you think they player with it? absolutely love Reynor for sticking to the spirit of baboon brawl
Drone is a way of living
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
December 14 2020 00:14 GMT
#364
absolutely crazy lower bracket lol
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
December 14 2020 00:16 GMT
#365
On December 14 2020 08:59 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2020 08:58 Xain0n wrote:
If I were Elazer I would have ggd out, you can't honestly beat the Italian Vespa and sleep well.

gg out of a won game?


You have to pay respect to the ultimate meme.
I am obviously not serious...

Trying to outclown Elazer in a ZvZ is very risky.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-14 00:19:54
December 14 2020 00:18 GMT
#366
also I think now the only way for ByuN to be out of iem katowice is Zoun or Patience qualifying for Last Chance and making a really deep run, ByuN not getting any more points in any competition, while Bunny and RagnaroK keep getting points in their remaining tournaments. (KR has locked in the wildcard seed because Scarlett can no longer win it for NA with any result). So basically 99.99% there.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
December 14 2020 00:19 GMT
#367
is there any kind of info for katowice yet? I hope to god its not online but is ESL rly gonna do a bubble system for a sc2 tournament? online would be an absolute tragedy
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Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
December 14 2020 01:01 GMT
#368
That lower bracket o_O
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 14 2020 02:00 GMT
#369
When I saw the lineup for this tournament I never would have picked showtime and elazer to be in the winner's semifinals.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
December 14 2020 04:39 GMT
#370
On December 14 2020 09:18 Waxangel wrote:
also I think now the only way for ByuN to be out of iem katowice is Zoun or Patience qualifying for Last Chance and making a really deep run, ByuN not getting any more points in any competition, while Bunny and RagnaroK keep getting points in their remaining tournaments. (KR has locked in the wildcard seed because Scarlett can no longer win it for NA with any result). So basically 99.99% there.


Scarlett can’t qualify for IEM Katowice? KR wildcard? Could you please explain?
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
536 Posts
December 14 2020 08:29 GMT
#371
Showtime is in impressive form at the moment! Let's see, if he can defeat Serral again.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7150 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-15 09:12:17
December 15 2020 09:11 GMT
#372
On December 14 2020 09:18 Waxangel wrote:
also I think now the only way for ByuN to be out of iem katowice is Zoun or Patience qualifying for Last Chance and making a really deep run, ByuN not getting any more points in any competition, while Bunny and RagnaroK keep getting points in their remaining tournaments. (KR has locked in the wildcard seed because Scarlett can no longer win it for NA with any result). So basically 99.99% there.


The qualifiers for Last Chance are already over
Neither Zoun nor Patience made it

(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/Masters/Last Chance
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
December 15 2020 09:18 GMT
#373
On December 15 2020 18:11 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2020 09:18 Waxangel wrote:
also I think now the only way for ByuN to be out of iem katowice is Zoun or Patience qualifying for Last Chance and making a really deep run, ByuN not getting any more points in any competition, while Bunny and RagnaroK keep getting points in their remaining tournaments. (KR has locked in the wildcard seed because Scarlett can no longer win it for NA with any result). So basically 99.99% there.


The qualifiers for Last Chance are already over
Neither Zoun nor Patience made it

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/ESL_Pro_Tour/2020/21/Masters/Last_Chance

The qualifiers aren't region locked.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7150 Posts
December 15 2020 10:14 GMT
#374
On December 15 2020 18:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2020 18:11 Harris1st wrote:
On December 14 2020 09:18 Waxangel wrote:
also I think now the only way for ByuN to be out of iem katowice is Zoun or Patience qualifying for Last Chance and making a really deep run, ByuN not getting any more points in any competition, while Bunny and RagnaroK keep getting points in their remaining tournaments. (KR has locked in the wildcard seed because Scarlett can no longer win it for NA with any result). So basically 99.99% there.


The qualifiers for Last Chance are already over
Neither Zoun nor Patience made it

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/ESL_Pro_Tour/2020/21/Masters/Last_Chance

The qualifiers aren't region locked.


Uff my bad. Thought they were all through with the Open part. Didn't realize Americas Open is due tomorrow
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
December 16 2020 12:06 GMT
#375
Top Foreigner VS Top Korea stats this tournament:

Serral 3-2 Dark
Serral 3-0 Maru
Showtime 3-1 TY
Showtime 3-2 Zest
Clem 2-3 Byun
Elazer 3-1 Stats
Heromarine 2-3 Stats
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