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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16061 Posts
October 08 2020 16:24 GMT
#1041
On October 09 2020 01:22 lolfail9001 wrote:
Man, there is something so satisfying to see that i am not the only zerg that dies to hellbat timings all the time.

a few months ago Artosis was making fun of how bad a Zerg must be if he loses to Hellbat timings but recently they've somehow become popular again. Maybe Zergs became too greedy.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 08 2020 16:24 GMT
#1042
On October 09 2020 00:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2020 00:46 Elentos wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:37 Elentos wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:31 Morbidius wrote:
Win 2 online tournaments on 200 ping: Best player in the world.
Win GSL into Katowice into another GSL: Inconsistent.

Well you did kinda leave out a few events between that GSL and Katowice and that other GSL. Like a GSL where Rogue lost in the first group stage.


Time out Elentos. Are you really going to suggest that Rogue losing to Scarlett like THAT was somehow an indication that he is an inconsistent player? Don't do it! That series is not a black mark on Rogue, it's more that Scarlett and NoRegret prepared one of the cleverest cheesiest bullshit series that happened to knock out a heavy favorite in a Bo3.

Considering that Rogue still has one of the most impressive records in professional Starcraft (Undefeated in offline Bo7s.) I'm more than willing to completely overlook being cheesed out of one ZvZ Bo3.

A GSL group is more than a single series. He got stomped by Inno just as hard as Scarlett did. And there's supposed to be a multi-tier difference between those Zergs. And yes, I'm just gonna say it, what Scarlett did there wouldn't have worked against Serral.


Oh Serral, you mean the guy that ELAZER knocked out of TSL5? You don't think Scarlett could knock him out of a Bo3 if she had prep time like she did vs Rogue?

Come on now.

EDIT: Knocked down, not out. Reynor knocked Serral out of that tournament. Two ZvZ's he lost in that same tournament.


Its impossible to know whether Scarlett could make it work against Serral, but Rogue tried it against him in the Warchest team league if I remember correctly (the spine BS) and got easily held off, It was online with ping but still, I dont think we can really argue who is more consistent obviously its Serral. Rogue is the GOAT for me, because he wins the most big tournaments, but he really is quite inconsistent overall
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
October 08 2020 16:25 GMT
#1043
On October 09 2020 01:24 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2020 01:22 lolfail9001 wrote:
Man, there is something so satisfying to see that i am not the only zerg that dies to hellbat timings all the time.

a few months ago Artosis was making fun of how bad a Zerg must be if he loses to Hellbat timings but recently they've somehow become popular again. Maybe Zergs became too greedy.

with bigger maps at the moment, zergs are getting greedy again. I watched like 10 TvZ wherein zergs die on helbat timings.
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
October 08 2020 16:25 GMT
#1044
On October 09 2020 01:24 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2020 01:22 lolfail9001 wrote:
Man, there is something so satisfying to see that i am not the only zerg that dies to hellbat timings all the time.


That makes three of us


I mean, it had to have become a meta build somehow. If no one ever died to these builds they wouldn't be so common in pro play.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 08 2020 16:25 GMT
#1045
On October 09 2020 01:22 SamirDuran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2020 01:19 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Cure is stomping so hard on Reynor its almost embarrassing. All 3 games he won today looked super one sided.

Fortunately for Reynor its a bo5 and Pillars of Zerg and Zerganatha should take care of it

pillars of zerg down. Cure served Reynor some BBQ Drone Pizza for dinner...


Yeah, loved it ! Zergs got so greedy on these "freewin" maps that this kind of strategy can work very well. Way to go Cure !
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
parksonsc
Profile Joined May 2019
175 Posts
October 08 2020 16:27 GMT
#1046
On October 09 2020 01:21 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2020 00:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:46 Elentos wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:37 Elentos wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:31 Morbidius wrote:
Win 2 online tournaments on 200 ping: Best player in the world.
Win GSL into Katowice into another GSL: Inconsistent.

Well you did kinda leave out a few events between that GSL and Katowice and that other GSL. Like a GSL where Rogue lost in the first group stage.


Time out Elentos. Are you really going to suggest that Rogue losing to Scarlett like THAT was somehow an indication that he is an inconsistent player? Don't do it! That series is not a black mark on Rogue, it's more that Scarlett and NoRegret prepared one of the cleverest cheesiest bullshit series that happened to knock out a heavy favorite in a Bo3.

Considering that Rogue still has one of the most impressive records in professional Starcraft (Undefeated in offline Bo7s.) I'm more than willing to completely overlook being cheesed out of one ZvZ Bo3.

A GSL group is more than a single series. He got stomped by Inno just as hard as Scarlett did. And there's supposed to be a multi-tier difference between those Zergs. And yes, I'm just gonna say it, what Scarlett did there wouldn't have worked against Serral.


Oh Serral, you mean the guy that ELAZER knocked out of TSL5? You don't think Scarlett could knock him out of a Bo3 if she had prep time like she did vs Rogue?

Come on now.

EDIT: Knocked down, not out. Reynor knocked Serral out of that tournament. Two ZvZ's he lost in that same tournament.


Of course Scarlett wouldn't have. Hating on Elazer who eliminated "god tier Dark" in 2019?
You don't want me to remind you how insanely consistent Serral has been, right?


The thing is there are so many more mediocre/online tournaments than premier/non region-locked ones and Serral is very "consistent" when he does not lose in premier tournaments. That's why a lot of ppl like you think he is that consistent.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 08 2020 16:28 GMT
#1047
On October 09 2020 01:21 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2020 00:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:46 Elentos wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:37 Elentos wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:31 Morbidius wrote:
Win 2 online tournaments on 200 ping: Best player in the world.
Win GSL into Katowice into another GSL: Inconsistent.

Well you did kinda leave out a few events between that GSL and Katowice and that other GSL. Like a GSL where Rogue lost in the first group stage.


Time out Elentos. Are you really going to suggest that Rogue losing to Scarlett like THAT was somehow an indication that he is an inconsistent player? Don't do it! That series is not a black mark on Rogue, it's more that Scarlett and NoRegret prepared one of the cleverest cheesiest bullshit series that happened to knock out a heavy favorite in a Bo3.

Considering that Rogue still has one of the most impressive records in professional Starcraft (Undefeated in offline Bo7s.) I'm more than willing to completely overlook being cheesed out of one ZvZ Bo3.

A GSL group is more than a single series. He got stomped by Inno just as hard as Scarlett did. And there's supposed to be a multi-tier difference between those Zergs. And yes, I'm just gonna say it, what Scarlett did there wouldn't have worked against Serral.


Oh Serral, you mean the guy that ELAZER knocked out of TSL5? You don't think Scarlett could knock him out of a Bo3 if she had prep time like she did vs Rogue?

Come on now.

EDIT: Knocked down, not out. Reynor knocked Serral out of that tournament. Two ZvZ's he lost in that same tournament.


Of course Scarlett wouldn't have. Hating on Elazer who eliminated "god tier Dark" in 2019?
You don't want me to remind you how insanely consistent Serral has been, right?

Ah yes, when you can't defend Serral losses it becomes time to praise the guy who beat him. No wonder you've been praising Reynor so much lately.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
October 08 2020 16:29 GMT
#1048
Again the fast 2nd factory. It's so interesting, I've not seen it from anyone else really.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Gina
Profile Joined July 2019
241 Posts
October 08 2020 16:29 GMT
#1049
Serral isn't even playing today, neither is Rogue...
Omit needles swords.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 16:35:19
October 08 2020 16:30 GMT
#1050
On October 09 2020 01:27 parksonsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2020 01:21 Xain0n wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:46 Elentos wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:37 Elentos wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:31 Morbidius wrote:
Win 2 online tournaments on 200 ping: Best player in the world.
Win GSL into Katowice into another GSL: Inconsistent.

Well you did kinda leave out a few events between that GSL and Katowice and that other GSL. Like a GSL where Rogue lost in the first group stage.


Time out Elentos. Are you really going to suggest that Rogue losing to Scarlett like THAT was somehow an indication that he is an inconsistent player? Don't do it! That series is not a black mark on Rogue, it's more that Scarlett and NoRegret prepared one of the cleverest cheesiest bullshit series that happened to knock out a heavy favorite in a Bo3.

Considering that Rogue still has one of the most impressive records in professional Starcraft (Undefeated in offline Bo7s.) I'm more than willing to completely overlook being cheesed out of one ZvZ Bo3.

A GSL group is more than a single series. He got stomped by Inno just as hard as Scarlett did. And there's supposed to be a multi-tier difference between those Zergs. And yes, I'm just gonna say it, what Scarlett did there wouldn't have worked against Serral.


Oh Serral, you mean the guy that ELAZER knocked out of TSL5? You don't think Scarlett could knock him out of a Bo3 if she had prep time like she did vs Rogue?

Come on now.

EDIT: Knocked down, not out. Reynor knocked Serral out of that tournament. Two ZvZ's he lost in that same tournament.


Of course Scarlett wouldn't have. Hating on Elazer who eliminated "god tier Dark" in 2019?
You don't want me to remind you how insanely consistent Serral has been, right?


The thing is there are so many more mediocre/online tournaments than premier/non region-locked ones and Serral is very "consistent" when he does not lose in premier tournaments. That's why a lot of ppl like you think he is that consistent.


Since the start of 2018 Serral got at least top 8 in every tournament he played in other than TSL5, with almost all of those performances being at least a top 4 (IEM Katowice 2019 and DHMS Fall are the two exceptions iirc, there might be a few more).

No excuse for TSL5, being eliminated by Reynor is fine but the loss to Elazer really wasn't. That being said Serral is the paragon of consistency.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
October 08 2020 16:32 GMT
#1051
Really looks like Cure has his juju back. All that practicing for DRG and Solar and he's using it on Reynor now.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 08 2020 16:35 GMT
#1052
And now Reynor goes MLB and Cure dies exactly like he died vs DRG.

It's kinda hilarious.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9222 Posts
October 08 2020 16:36 GMT
#1053
Mutalisks are the answer
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
October 08 2020 16:37 GMT
#1054
On October 09 2020 01:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
Really looks like Cure has his juju back. All that practicing for DRG and Solar and he's using it on Reynor now.

Instead of in GSL when he really needed it
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
slant
Profile Joined February 2020
Romania95 Posts
October 08 2020 16:38 GMT
#1055
Reynor's over 90 drones and he's been trading more efficiently vs terran with MLB for the past 14 minutes, how is Cure still in this
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
October 08 2020 16:38 GMT
#1056
On October 09 2020 01:37 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2020 01:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
Really looks like Cure has his juju back. All that practicing for DRG and Solar and he's using it on Reynor now.

Instead of in GSL when he really needed it


I thought it, but I didn't say it.

And hey DRG looks fucking great right now so I'm happy about that.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
October 08 2020 16:39 GMT
#1057
On October 09 2020 01:38 slant wrote:
Reynor's over 90 drones and he's been trading more efficiently vs terran with MLB for the past 14 minutes, how is Cure still in this


Is he though? Reynor is floating 6k minerals and 2.5k gas. Cure doesn't realize how dead he is.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
October 08 2020 16:39 GMT
#1058
On October 09 2020 01:25 SamirDuran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2020 01:24 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 09 2020 01:22 lolfail9001 wrote:
Man, there is something so satisfying to see that i am not the only zerg that dies to hellbat timings all the time.

a few months ago Artosis was making fun of how bad a Zerg must be if he loses to Hellbat timings but recently they've somehow become popular again. Maybe Zergs became too greedy.

with bigger maps at the moment, zergs are getting greedy again. I watched like 10 TvZ wherein zergs die on helbat timings.

I think it's more that zergs got greedy on the big maps and now they're not as big anymore
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16061 Posts
October 08 2020 16:39 GMT
#1059
On October 09 2020 01:30 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2020 01:27 parksonsc wrote:
On October 09 2020 01:21 Xain0n wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:46 Elentos wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:37 Elentos wrote:
On October 09 2020 00:31 Morbidius wrote:
Win 2 online tournaments on 200 ping: Best player in the world.
Win GSL into Katowice into another GSL: Inconsistent.

Well you did kinda leave out a few events between that GSL and Katowice and that other GSL. Like a GSL where Rogue lost in the first group stage.


Time out Elentos. Are you really going to suggest that Rogue losing to Scarlett like THAT was somehow an indication that he is an inconsistent player? Don't do it! That series is not a black mark on Rogue, it's more that Scarlett and NoRegret prepared one of the cleverest cheesiest bullshit series that happened to knock out a heavy favorite in a Bo3.

Considering that Rogue still has one of the most impressive records in professional Starcraft (Undefeated in offline Bo7s.) I'm more than willing to completely overlook being cheesed out of one ZvZ Bo3.

A GSL group is more than a single series. He got stomped by Inno just as hard as Scarlett did. And there's supposed to be a multi-tier difference between those Zergs. And yes, I'm just gonna say it, what Scarlett did there wouldn't have worked against Serral.


Oh Serral, you mean the guy that ELAZER knocked out of TSL5? You don't think Scarlett could knock him out of a Bo3 if she had prep time like she did vs Rogue?

Come on now.

EDIT: Knocked down, not out. Reynor knocked Serral out of that tournament. Two ZvZ's he lost in that same tournament.


Of course Scarlett wouldn't have. Hating on Elazer who eliminated "god tier Dark" in 2019?
You don't want me to remind you how insanely consistent Serral has been, right?


The thing is there are so many more mediocre/online tournaments than premier/non region-locked ones and Serral is very "consistent" when he does not lose in premier tournaments. That's why a lot of ppl like you think he is that consistent.


Since the start of 2018 Serral got at least top 8 in every tournament he played in other than TSL5, with almost all of those performances being at least a top 4 (IEM Katowice 2019 and DHMS Fall are the two exceptions iirc, there might be a few more).

No excuse for TSL5, being eliminated by Reynor is fine but the loss to Elazer really wasn't. That being said Serral is the paragon of consistency.

he doesn't play in GSL though where it's the hardest to advance to the bracket stage
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
October 08 2020 16:40 GMT
#1060
If Reynor loses with literally everything else but wins with LBM, what does it mean
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