Did Scarlet's overlord float over the base too far north and miss the stargates?

E: As I say that Void Rays hunt down the ovie so she know now for sure

Husyelt

United States837 Posts

September 13 2020 23:01 GMT

#1242

Neeb needs an obs for this creep

ZigguratOfUr

Iraq16955 Posts

September 13 2020 23:04 GMT

#1243

Neeb has always been an early adopter of stuff (if not necessarily an innovator). When mass oracle started to gain popularity he quickly jumped on that train.

Well it's not working this series.

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40190 Posts

September 13 2020 23:10 GMT

#1244

Yeah, Neeb's no Zoun /s

Penev

28512 Posts

September 13 2020 23:10 GMT

#1245

I'm rooting for Astrea to win these play offs but it would be kinda funny if Scarlett beats both Protoss with a lot of lurker viper

BerserkSword

United States2123 Posts

September 13 2020 23:11 GMT

#1246

On September 14 2020 08:10 Penev wrote:
I'm rooting for Astrea to win these play offs but it would be kinda funny if Scarlett beats both Protoss with a lot of lurker viper

Scarlet isn’t gonna bear Astrea imo.

Astrea PvZ pretty nuts

Kuchikikun

Italy560 Posts

September 13 2020 23:12 GMT

#1247

I didn't know that playing only BW is the way to beat the best player of your region

ZigguratOfUr

Iraq16955 Posts

September 13 2020 23:14 GMT

#1248

On September 14 2020 08:10 Penev wrote:
I'm rooting for Astrea to win these play offs but it would be kinda funny if Scarlett beats both Protoss with a lot of lurker viper

All that BW PvZ practice has to pay off.

Swisslink

2954 Posts

September 13 2020 23:15 GMT

#1249

On September 14 2020 07:43 JJH777 wrote:

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On September 14 2020 07:28 Swisslink wrote:

On September 14 2020 07:19 JJH777 wrote:

On September 14 2020 07:16 Swisslink wrote:

On September 14 2020 07:13 Morbidius wrote:

On September 14 2020 07:10 Luolis wrote:

On September 14 2020 07:08 Zzzapper wrote:

On September 14 2020 07:02 Lexender wrote:

On September 14 2020 07:01 Calliope wrote:
So still 2017 last time? Feeling really sorry for clem, such a multitasker. I wonder where he'd been had he chosen Z instead.

Clem and Reynor are the same age and started playing at the same time, so people saying "he's still improving" act like Reynor isn't exactly like him but with the better race.

That's ridiculous, Reynor was always better than Clem. Or has zerg just been overpowered for all of LotV?

You got it ;;

I'm tired of pretending that a race winning everything for 3 years is normal tbh.

You're making your life too easy by reducing this entire streak on a race, considering most Zerg (aka everyone but Serral and Reynor) are as far away from winning a tournament as all the other players.

Are you only including foreigners with this statement? Korean Zergs have had an amazing last 3 years. Even with foreigners it's not completely accurate. Elazer made the finals of GSL vs The World last year. While his bracket wasn't super impressive in terms of prestige of the event itself I'd argue that's the best result of any foreigner not named Serral or Reynor in the last 3 years. Then you have Scarlett winning that IEM event in 2018 which is probably the next best result for a foreigner after that.

Yeah, I forgot about the Scarlett run. That was - however - just a few months later than the Neeb victory in late 2017 (last non-Korean tournament 2017 vs. 2nd non-Korean tournament 2018). And since that tournament, Showtime was in a final once and lost to Serral, Mana was in a final once and lost to Serral, Has was in a final once and lost to Serral, Special was in a final once and lost to Serral, Elazer was in a final once and lost to Serral. No other Zerg ever reached te finals.

And yes, I'm excluding the Korean tournaments, because there are definitely some non-Zerg winners in Korean tournaments. Probably even more Terran winners than Zerg winners in the comparable timespan (beginning of 2018 to today).

edit: it's actually completely even in terms of Korean championships between Zerg and Terran.

Is that only counting GSL events? If you count blizzcon, IEM, and WESG there's no way that's accurate.

Also I'd be curious how often Elazer, Lambo, Scarlett etc were eliminated in bracket vs each other and Serral/Reynor I'd guess it was a lot.

If you really think it's just Serral and Reynor tell me what do you think would happen if we removed the top 2 foreign players of each race from consideration do you really think Zerg would have had the worst results? Take out Serral, Reynor, Clem (Heromarine before this year), Special, Neeb, Showtime. You really don't think Elazer, Lambo, Scarlett don't start winning the majority of foreign only events? I'll admit I don't believe they'd dominate the way Serral and Reynor have or even close but I still do believe they would have won more than 1/3 of the events by a fairly significant percent.

Well, probably lots of players that didn't win a tournament were eliminated by Serral/Raynor a lot. ;-)
That's what makes them as dominant as they are. They just don't lose to anyone aside from each other.

And to your question: I think that's hard to judge, because there are races that do really well in different regions. Europe has always been all about Zerg. Even when the Korean Terrans dominated like crazy, European tournaments were all about Zerg. I would therefore agree that Zerg would still win quite a lot in this region, if we cut the top 2 of each race. In Korea on the other side, Zerg would probably do the worst among all three races if we did the same. Losing Dark and Rogue would be the complete downfall of the race, imo. USA is probably the hardest to judge. Although I'd argue it's hard to cut 6 players in NA and still have a decent tournament at this moment.

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40190 Posts

September 13 2020 23:26 GMT

#1250

Who needs vipers, lmao.

EDIT: Yeah, just like in BW PvZ, storms are just not enough.

Oukka

Finland1683 Posts

September 13 2020 23:26 GMT

#1251

Neeb did not look happy as he tapped out :o

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40190 Posts

September 13 2020 23:27 GMT

#1252

On September 14 2020 08:11 BerserkSword wrote:

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Scarlet isn’t gonna bear Astrea imo.

Astrea PvZ pretty nuts

Well, i believe he builds adepts, right?

ZigguratOfUr

Iraq16955 Posts

September 13 2020 23:27 GMT

#1253

That's a bit of a surprise. I wonder if Neeb will keep on refining the airtoss, or if he's going back to something more traditional for this match-up.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

September 13 2020 23:27 GMT

#1254

maybe he is flustered by the matchup because his organization and decisionmaking did not look good to me

I do think astrea will look much, much different

mierin

United States4943 Posts

September 13 2020 23:32 GMT

#1255

I think Astrea has this. Neeb unfortunately wasn't looking too hot.

Penev

28512 Posts

September 13 2020 23:32 GMT

#1256

On September 14 2020 08:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
That's a bit of a surprise. I wonder if Neeb will keep on refining the airtoss, or if he's going back to something more traditional for this match-up.

Yeah, didn't actually expect Scarlett to win and tbh was hoping for another one of those crazy PvP finals

Oh well, gratz to Scarlett