EPTWhat can an old fart like Serral hope to do
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Waxangel
United States33655 Posts
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Lexender
Mexico2661 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:04 BerserkSword wrote: zerg is too strong because clem, who, no offense to him he is a great young player, has never won anything in his career yet, lost to one of the greatest prodigies of all time? reynor was taking games off elite koreans in Code S and Blizzcon since he was like 15 Reynor is killing serral in ZvZ too. reynor is a savant. + Show Spoiler + On September 14 2020 07:02 Lexender wrote: Clem and Reynor are the same age and started playing at the same time, so people saying "he's still improving" act like Reynor isn't exactly like him but with the better race. | ||
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Calliope
297 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:01 lolfail9001 wrote: Anyways, i might have missed something given how different pacing is, but i am fairly positive that something is off with meta when standard 2-2 push hits when Zerg is taking his 5th on 80+ drones, given that even in HotS it would be auto loss to Zerg on such economy. I realized what is so frustrating for me. Watching live TvZ. I usually catch vods and can fast-forward to the 6 min mark. Up until then, tvz is just about queens defending hellions/reapers/banshees/BCs (did I forget something?). Hellions trying and failing to hinder creep, and the larvae can be dedicated all to droning. So the game does not start until 6-7 mins and 70 drones. | ||
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Swisslink
2956 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:01 Kuchikikun wrote: I can't stand watching Zerg winning anymore  Chances are good in NA no Zerg is going to win. On September 14 2020 07:01 Calliope wrote: So still 2017 last time? Feeling really sorry for clem, such a multitasker. I wonder where he'd been had he chosen Z instead. Well, yeah, since 2017 only Serral and Reynor won tournaments outside Korea. Or am I missing a tournament? | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:04 BerserkSword wrote: zerg is too strong because clem, who, no offense to him he is a great young player, has never won anything in his career yet, lost to one of the greatest prodigies of all time? reynor was taking games off elite koreans in Code S and Blizzcon since he was like 15 Reynor is killing serral in ZvZ too. reynor is a savant. Yeah balance whiners just are missing out on what was amazing series. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:04 Luolis wrote: SC2 wasn't designed for 12 worker start and it's pretty clear. Nah, i am still of opinion that maps enable it more than quick start. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:05 Lexender wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 14 2020 07:02 Lexender wrote: Clem and Reynor are the same age and started playing at the same time, so people saying "he's still improving" act like Reynor isn't exactly like him but with the better race. It's not the race. Reynor is simply that much better than clem. Clem isn't "exactly like him but with the better race" It's not a knock against clem either. But one has to acknowledge how good reynor is. | ||
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HolydaKing
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On September 14 2020 07:02 Lexender wrote: Clem and Reynor are the same age and started playing at the same time, so people saying "he's still improving" act like Reynor isn't exactly like him but with the better race. Maybe, just possibly, we are blessed with two individuals in Reynor and Serral that are just better players. Them being same age doesn't mean they're supposed to be at the same skill level at all. In KR I don't think Terran is getting severely outmatched by Zergs in the last 3 years, are they? And those guys were, pre Serrals appearence, dominating everything. Z and T both are incredibly hard races to play at high level, just look how many Zergs there are that get owned by Gabe and Clem all the time and the same thing other way around. | ||
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Zzzapper
1798 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:02 Lexender wrote: Clem and Reynor are the same age and started playing at the same time, so people saying "he's still improving" act like Reynor isn't exactly like him but with the better race. That's ridiculous, Reynor was always better than Clem. Or has zerg just been overpowered for all of LotV? People need to stop making claims like this, it's so disrespectful towards the players. Some people are always gonna be better than others, that's the nature of any competition | ||
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States766 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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Penev
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Swisslink
2956 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:09 Morbidius wrote: People aren't complaining about Zerg because Zerg won one game in eternal empire, they're complaining about Zerg because Zerg has 100% tournament winrate outside of Korea for 3 years. Serral and Reynor do. Not Zerg. Or was Terran imbalanced because Terran won all the GSL's in 2018? | ||
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sneakyfox
8217 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:09 Morbidius wrote: People aren't complaining about Zerg because Zerg won one game in eternal empire, they're complaining about Zerg because Zerg has 100% tournament winrate outside of Korea for 3 years. Winrate in Korea not too shabby either | ||
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Luolis
Finland7184 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:08 Zzzapper wrote: That's ridiculous, Reynor was always better than Clem. Or has zerg just been overpowered for all of LotV? You got it ;; | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:04 BerserkSword wrote: zerg is too strong because clem, who, no offense to him he is a great young player, has never won anything in his career yet, lost to one of the greatest prodigies of all time? reynor was taking games off elite koreans in Code S and Blizzcon since he was like 15 Reynor is killing serral in ZvZ too. reynor is a savant. But zerg always wins! (I'm kidding.) Seriously: Reynor is the most talented player I've seen in quite some time. He's not only got the mechanical skill, he also has become quite composed under pressure and shows great decision making in his games. He's a monster. Clem looked insanely good as well, he lacked strategic depth in some games, but we're talking about games in which he was doing non stop multi pronged aggression, while defending against runbys constantly. He just didn't find a solution to Reynor's adaptive reactions after the start. | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2661 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:08 HolydaKing wrote: Maybe, just possibly, we are blessed with two individuals in Reynor and Serral that are just better players. Them being same age doesn't mean they're supposed to be at the same skill level at all. In KR I don't think Terran is getting severely outmatched by Zergs in the last 3 years, are they? And those guys were, pre Serrals appearence, dominating everything. Z and T both are incredibly hard races to play at high level, just look how many Zergs there are that get owned by Gabe and Clem all the time and the same thing other way around. The 3 players that have dominated the most since LotVs release have been Serral, Reynor and Rogue. No correlation there besides pure casuality. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 14 2020 07:10 Lexender wrote: The 3 players that have dominated the most since LotVs release have been Serral, Reynor and Rogue. No correlation there besides pure casuality. I like how player that won 4 GSLs back to back does not qualify for your list. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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