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On September 14 2020 05:14 Zzzapper wrote:
Serral definitely does better vs. top players in general than Reynor. He's at 73% set win rate against Korean players in 2020, the highest of anyone (#2 is Maru at 68%, #3 Stats at 65% so that's a big gap). Reynor is at 60% which is up there with the top Koreans but not nearly as impressive
I like how this list shows neither GSL champion of the year (one of whom also won Katowice). So I guess we can't take this at face value either.
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Wow, I feel extremely nervous. When did we last have a terran victor in major foreign tournament? Hoping we'll get to see the same form as yesterday, Clem hwaiting!
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On September 14 2020 05:14 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2020 05:08 sneakyfox wrote:On September 14 2020 05:01 mierin wrote:On September 14 2020 04:59 geokilla wrote:
Reynor is so good. Serral is no longer the best Zerg. Wow. It's more like Reynor>Serral>Top Players>Reynor Yes. Korean Starcraft does not exist. And Katowice 2020 never happened. Also Blizzcon 2019 never happened. And Katowice 2019. And Katowice 2018. etc Serral's Blizzcon 2018 win has given him so much mileage, everyone still talks as if its relevant when we have 3 more world champions. At the end of the day its the only big tournament he hans't choked at.
the only player ever to place highly at literally every tournament he enters is a choker 
you can argue about Serral being the GOAT or current number one or whatever but you absolutely can't deny that he's the most consistent top level player ever
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On September 14 2020 05:19 Calliope wrote:
Wow, I feel extremely nervous. When did we last have a terran victor in major foreign tournament? Hoping we'll get to see the same form as yesterday, Clem hwaiting!
Not counting this year's regional split which has Terran winners in China and LatAm, back when Polt was active.
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On September 14 2020 05:19 stilt wrote:A unique loss to Trap while he beats Maru ? That's disappointing. Doyou cup and the warchest teamleague definetely invalidates this silly reasonning.
Doyou cup, where Serral's only loss was to reynor and zest, while reynor lost to serral and inno? :DDDDDDDDDDD
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Two ling kills for the reaper, GG
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On September 14 2020 05:20 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2020 05:19 Calliope wrote:
Wow, I feel extremely nervous. When did we last have a terran victor in major foreign tournament? Hoping we'll get to see the same form as yesterday, Clem hwaiting! Not counting this year's regional split which has Terran winners in China and LatAm, back when Polt was active.
uThermal won IEM Shanghai a bit after that.
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On September 14 2020 05:20 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2020 05:14 Morbidius wrote:On September 14 2020 05:08 sneakyfox wrote:On September 14 2020 05:01 mierin wrote:On September 14 2020 04:59 geokilla wrote:
Reynor is so good. Serral is no longer the best Zerg. Wow. It's more like Reynor>Serral>Top Players>Reynor Yes. Korean Starcraft does not exist. And Katowice 2020 never happened. Also Blizzcon 2019 never happened. And Katowice 2019. And Katowice 2018. etc Serral's Blizzcon 2018 win has given him so much mileage, everyone still talks as if its relevant when we have 3 more world champions. At the end of the day its the only big tournament he hans't choked at. the only player ever to place highly at literally every tournament he enters is a choker you can argue about Serral being the GOAT or current number one or whatever but you absolutely can't deny that he's the most consistent top level player ever
And he chokes at every semi-final. He's very consistent at that.
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On September 14 2020 05:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2020 05:20 Elentos wrote:On September 14 2020 05:19 Calliope wrote:
Wow, I feel extremely nervous. When did we last have a terran victor in major foreign tournament? Hoping we'll get to see the same form as yesterday, Clem hwaiting! Not counting this year's regional split which has Terran winners in China and LatAm, back when Polt was active. uThermal won IEM Shanghai a bit after that.
Right Polt won what was that year's Katowice (thanks Blizzard for ruining that with region lock).
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Clem opened with the liberator every game in the previous series against Reynor iirc, and it looks like he'll do that every game this series. It's a pretty vanilla way to open, but I wonder if there's anything Reynor can do to exploit that.
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If Clem loses submarine i give him no chance to win.
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On September 14 2020 05:24 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Clem opened with the liberator every game in the previous series against Reynor iirc, and it looks like he'll do that every game this series. It's a pretty vanilla way to open, but I wonder if there's anything Reynor can do to exploit that.
I think it's more of a question of if Reynor feels like he should try to exploit that or if he thinks he doesn't need to.
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On September 14 2020 05:19 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2020 05:14 Zzzapper wrote:
Serral definitely does better vs. top players in general than Reynor. He's at 73% set win rate against Korean players in 2020, the highest of anyone (#2 is Maru at 68%, #3 Stats at 65% so that's a big gap). Reynor is at 60% which is up there with the top Koreans but not nearly as impressive I like how this list shows neither GSL champion of the year (one of whom also won Katowice). So I guess we can't take this at face value either.
Well, stats like that mostly show consistency, not peak level, ability to win tournaments and whatnot. Interestingly, Rogue and TY have the worst win rates among top players this year. It's not really surprising for Rogue since he tends to get stomped when he's not winning everything but TY is one of the most consistent players in the GSL. He's done fairly well in other major tournaments this year too so I guess poor showings in online cups are dragging him down
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On September 14 2020 05:26 Luolis wrote:
If Clem loses submarine i give him no chance to win.
Forgetting bane speed is completely map-independent
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On September 14 2020 05:27 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2020 05:26 Luolis wrote:
If Clem loses submarine i give him no chance to win. Forgetting bane speed is completely map-independent
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
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On September 14 2020 05:27 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2020 05:19 Elentos wrote:On September 14 2020 05:14 Zzzapper wrote:
Serral definitely does better vs. top players in general than Reynor. He's at 73% set win rate against Korean players in 2020, the highest of anyone (#2 is Maru at 68%, #3 Stats at 65% so that's a big gap). Reynor is at 60% which is up there with the top Koreans but not nearly as impressive I like how this list shows neither GSL champion of the year (one of whom also won Katowice). So I guess we can't take this at face value either. Well, stats like that mostly show consistency, not peak level, ability to win tournaments and whatnot. Interestingly, Rogue and TY have the worst win rates among top players this year. It's not really surprising for Rogue since he tends to get stomped when he's not winning everything but TY is one of the most consistent players in the GSL. He's done fairly well in other major tournaments this year too so I guess poor showings in online cups are dragging him down
Yeah it's mostly online cups he doesn't care much for (yet plays in anyway) dragging him down for TY.
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On September 14 2020 05:28 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2020 05:27 sneakyfox wrote:On September 14 2020 05:26 Luolis wrote:
If Clem loses submarine i give him no chance to win. Forgetting bane speed is completely map-independent I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Reynor lost a map to Clem because of that yesterday. (which was not Submarine)
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Reynor evidently does not want to win Submarine either.
Or you have a justification for ling bane into ultras?
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