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ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
August 06 2020 13:07 GMT
#121
I've got the feeling 2020 is gonna be a lot of winners finals between Serral and Reynor.
Well, could be much worse
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4011 Posts
August 06 2020 13:07 GMT
#122
yeah Harstem has been one of the most enjoyable casters for years while not being a caster! I'm happy everytime he joins any of the casts.
Drone is a way of living
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25507 Posts
August 06 2020 13:12 GMT
#123
On August 06 2020 21:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2020 21:36 Waxangel wrote:
season finals making people dig up ping-talk that had been forgotten for like 7 years is the lamest development of 2020 (literally)

It shouldn't be the default excuse for every result you don't like but it seems like it's worse this year than before. Like getting progressively worse.
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2020 01:00 WardiTV wrote:
On August 03 2020 23:59 Oukka wrote:
On August 03 2020 23:42 sneakyfox wrote:
Btw, if/when Serral takes this map, this series will have been better ping 5-0 worse ping


Would be interesting to see the numbers on that across the premier/major cross-region tournaments (TSL5, DH masters, this, the wardi teamleague) for this season. Just to get a grip on how often do folk win on favoured servers vs "server upset"


A lot. Seems servers are pretty bad atm and central is becoming unplayable for korea with 200+ latency. I honestly think cross server play for kr vs eu just dies soon

It's pretty drastic and the ping talk is warranted when you read stuff like this.

I’ve heard it elsewhere too.

It’s not that people are complaining about cross server ping but apparently some of the servers are just outright laggier than they’ve historically been.

120-150 ping levels with a 30ms swing in terms of advantage to a player aren’t ideal compared to offline, but are playable at least.

Heard talk that players are getting 200+ with spikes and that really makes the game just outright difficult to play.

My Protoss boys aren’t having much joy so far, hopefully Trap can pull it out! Especially as Solar looks rather iffy defending Adepts of the gloved variety.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
August 06 2020 13:14 GMT
#124
On August 06 2020 22:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2020 21:38 Elentos wrote:
On August 06 2020 21:36 Waxangel wrote:
season finals making people dig up ping-talk that had been forgotten for like 7 years is the lamest development of 2020 (literally)

It shouldn't be the default excuse for every result you don't like but it seems like it's worse this year than before. Like getting progressively worse.
On August 04 2020 01:00 WardiTV wrote:
On August 03 2020 23:59 Oukka wrote:
On August 03 2020 23:42 sneakyfox wrote:
Btw, if/when Serral takes this map, this series will have been better ping 5-0 worse ping


Would be interesting to see the numbers on that across the premier/major cross-region tournaments (TSL5, DH masters, this, the wardi teamleague) for this season. Just to get a grip on how often do folk win on favoured servers vs "server upset"


A lot. Seems servers are pretty bad atm and central is becoming unplayable for korea with 200+ latency. I honestly think cross server play for kr vs eu just dies soon

It's pretty drastic and the ping talk is warranted when you read stuff like this.

I’ve heard it elsewhere too.

It’s not that people are complaining about cross server ping but apparently some of the servers are just outright laggier than they’ve historically been.

120-150 ping levels with a 30ms swing in terms of advantage to a player aren’t ideal compared to offline, but are playable at least.

Heard talk that players are getting 200+ with spikes and that really makes the game just outright difficult to play.

My Protoss boys aren’t having much joy so far, hopefully Trap can pull it out! Especially as Solar looks rather iffy defending Adepts of the gloved variety.

Going by their GSL Match i'd favor trap here Solar looked pretty lost there, even in the game he won he didn't look what i'd call convicning.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
August 06 2020 13:15 GMT
#125
This Food chat is top level downtime content. I'm dying for some Korean food now...
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25507 Posts
August 06 2020 13:18 GMT
#126
On August 06 2020 21:57 Nebuchad wrote:
Serral keeps winning his series 3-2 vs protoss but that's never because these are close series it's always because he does some shit builds when he's up 2-1 and he loses doing them.

I can't shake the feeling that he's doing that because he'd have too high a winrate if he was just doing the build he does in game 5 of these every game.

He’s trying to keep Aligulac inflation within reasonable parameters.

When I saw Serral experimenting with more builds like this I thought it was sensible, one of if not the best macro players out there also having good cheeses and aggression to worry about

I’m rather less sure now, whether he’s just getting bad luck, is using trash builds or he just doesn’t feel comfortable playing that way he just seems to throw games away doing it.

We shall see how he goes with this experimentation. When Dark or Rogue do it it looks scary, even when they do fail with it.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25507 Posts
August 06 2020 13:24 GMT
#127
On August 06 2020 22:14 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2020 22:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2020 21:38 Elentos wrote:
On August 06 2020 21:36 Waxangel wrote:
season finals making people dig up ping-talk that had been forgotten for like 7 years is the lamest development of 2020 (literally)

It shouldn't be the default excuse for every result you don't like but it seems like it's worse this year than before. Like getting progressively worse.
On August 04 2020 01:00 WardiTV wrote:
On August 03 2020 23:59 Oukka wrote:
On August 03 2020 23:42 sneakyfox wrote:
Btw, if/when Serral takes this map, this series will have been better ping 5-0 worse ping


Would be interesting to see the numbers on that across the premier/major cross-region tournaments (TSL5, DH masters, this, the wardi teamleague) for this season. Just to get a grip on how often do folk win on favoured servers vs "server upset"


A lot. Seems servers are pretty bad atm and central is becoming unplayable for korea with 200+ latency. I honestly think cross server play for kr vs eu just dies soon

It's pretty drastic and the ping talk is warranted when you read stuff like this.

I’ve heard it elsewhere too.

It’s not that people are complaining about cross server ping but apparently some of the servers are just outright laggier than they’ve historically been.

120-150 ping levels with a 30ms swing in terms of advantage to a player aren’t ideal compared to offline, but are playable at least.

Heard talk that players are getting 200+ with spikes and that really makes the game just outright difficult to play.

My Protoss boys aren’t having much joy so far, hopefully Trap can pull it out! Especially as Solar looks rather iffy defending Adepts of the gloved variety.

Going by their GSL Match i'd favor trap here Solar looked pretty lost there, even in the game he won he didn't look what i'd call convicning.

I would echo this. Man I’ve been watching so much SC lately I forgot that Trap and Solar faced off in the Ro16 recently.

That said I do think Zerg get a bit of a boost when we’re pushing into bo5s and 7s. Gets harder to have more good counter builds with solid execution the longer things go on.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-06 13:32:49
August 06 2020 13:26 GMT
#128
WTF was this engagement by Solar.

Edit: But basically this is why i favor trap, even if Solar gets into a good position he seems kinda off currently vs these colossus compositions, also taking these kind of engagements doesn't help :D
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
August 06 2020 13:43 GMT
#129
Yeah i'd say Solar is playing very bad here.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
August 06 2020 13:56 GMT
#130
LUL Solar
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
August 06 2020 13:57 GMT
#131
Wtf is with Solar's engagements and army composition in this series?
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
August 06 2020 13:57 GMT
#132
Army comp is fine but he always takes the worst final fights ever in this series.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
August 06 2020 14:03 GMT
#133
Poor Inno, barely not scouting the robo.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
August 06 2020 14:04 GMT
#134
On August 06 2020 22:57 darklycid wrote:
Army comp is fine but he always takes the worst final fights ever in this series.

That wasn't a good army comp with the fight he took. The Colossi basically one shot the lings and banes. If he was going to fight like that, probably a full Roach Ravager army would have been better.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
August 06 2020 14:06 GMT
#135
On August 06 2020 23:04 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2020 22:57 darklycid wrote:
Army comp is fine but he always takes the worst final fights ever in this series.

That wasn't a good army comp with the fight he took. The Colossi basically one shot the lings and banes. If he was going to fight like that, probably a full Roach Ravager army would have been better.

Obv ith the fights he took the army comp was bad, but the theme of the series was that solar fucked up the fights, so i'd argue that the army comp is fine but Solars engagements absolutely weren't.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
August 06 2020 14:07 GMT
#136
What was that game by Parting x)
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
August 06 2020 14:08 GMT
#137
Nice gameplay
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
August 06 2020 14:21 GMT
#138
Not the best enagement from inno there, but he just had the army.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25507 Posts
August 06 2020 14:36 GMT
#139
Pretty intense game there, love when the balance of forces leads to a real extended fight to the death like that!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 06 2020 14:36 GMT
#140
I think that was a throw by inno. He could have killed parting if he just amoved the third instead of trying to catch phoenixes. The time he wasted allowed +2 to finish and parting was even able to get disruptors eventually.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
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