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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-07 00:33:26
June 04 2020 17:15 GMT
#1

TSL 5


Saturday, Jun 06 1:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)TeamLiquid StarLeague/5

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(P)RotterdaM (Kevin van der Kooi)
(T)Wardi (Jonathon Ward)
(T)ZombieGrub (Jessica Chernega)

Special Guest - Day9 (Sean Plott)

Format

  • Double-elimination bracket:

  • All matches are Bo5.
  • Grand Finals are Bo7.

      Map Pool



Matches


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(Z)Elazer vs (T)INnoVation
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(T)uThermal vs (P)Zest


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(R)TBA vs (R)TBA


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(P)Trap vs (Z)soO

Results


+ Show Spoiler [Final Bracket] +


+ Show Spoiler [Loser Bracket] +




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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-04 17:16:30
June 04 2020 17:15 GMT
#2
Poll: Elazer vs INnoVation

INnoVation Wins (20)
 
87%

Elazer Wins (3)
 
13%

23 total votes

Your vote: Elazer vs INnoVation

(Vote): Elazer Wins
(Vote): INnoVation Wins


Poll: uThermal vs Zest

Zest Wins (18)
 
75%

uThermal Wins (6)
 
25%

24 total votes

Your vote: uThermal vs Zest

(Vote): uThermal Wins
(Vote): Zest Wins


Poll: Trap vs soO

soO Wins (13)
 
54%

Trap Wins (11)
 
46%

24 total votes

Your vote: Trap vs soO

(Vote): Trap Wins
(Vote): soO Wins

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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-04 22:01:29
June 04 2020 17:31 GMT
#3
INno-uT-Trap, I'm probably wrong on all three
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
June 04 2020 20:43 GMT
#4
Would be amazing to see Elazer beat Inno but I Don t realy see that coming here, even while he seems to be quite strong in a more preperation heavy tournament..
Zest should be able to adjust to uThermal unless he get mentally brocken by today defeat in GSL qualifier.. if Special shares the replays of today with uThermal that might look differently though..
I still Don t belive in Traps PvZ, so Soo to the Finals is actually my most confident pick, eben though I see hin as the weakest Player out of everyone left here
MaxPax
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States683 Posts
June 04 2020 21:01 GMT
#5
INnoVation is at peak form right now. His series against Reynor was a testament to his craftiness. A transition into mass widow mine?? Guys, the machine is learning!!! Also, it's not just macro anymore. His micro is looking crisp too. He's by far the best mech terran versus Zerg.

Zest has been also very crisp. UThermal has been really impressing me with his form lately, but Zest is best.

I keep wanting Trap to be the new Jin Air guy... It's possible but ZvP has always been Soo's best matchup (since going to T3 is pretty much entirely optional in the matchup). That one's kind of a toss up. I'm actually gonna go out on a limb at bet on Trap. Jin Air has to be frustrated at being overshadowed by DPG, so they're probably practicing hard again.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
June 05 2020 02:16 GMT
#6
Since stumbling across the Innovation theme song (found here https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/544415-for-fun-the-bgm-following-innovations-victory ) I'm always somewhat rooting for him.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 06 2020 11:25 GMT
#7
Zest currently streaming his ladder session for practice xD
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Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 12:19:25
June 06 2020 12:17 GMT
#8
Please don't make any bold predictions, Rotti :p

Edit: Well, I had hoped he wouldn't go uThermal>Zest
Mendici sumus. Hoc est verum. | I don't mind straight people, as long as they act gay in public. | Es ist keine Tugend edel geboren werden, sondern sich edel machen | οἶδα οὐκ εἰδώς
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 12:49 GMT
#9
Looking forward to some good matches today.

Would have loved to cheer for soO by displaying a crisp Afreeca Freecs flair on my profile though. one might have thought that TSL5 would be a great occasion to update the list of team flairs
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2020 12:58 GMT
#10
Nothing better than an afternoon of starcraft and beer.
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SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
June 06 2020 13:38 GMT
#11
Rotti looking professional as always. Wardi looking like he just rolled out of bed.
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 06 2020 13:52 GMT
#12
soOjwa
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
June 06 2020 13:57 GMT
#13
I'm all set!



I Protoss winner, could it be?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2020 14:18 GMT
#14
Cmon Elazer
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Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
June 06 2020 14:20 GMT
#15
Wow, completely outclassed.
Mendici sumus. Hoc est verum. | I don't mind straight people, as long as they act gay in public. | Es ist keine Tugend edel geboren werden, sondern sich edel machen | οἶδα οὐκ εἰδώς
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
June 06 2020 14:21 GMT
#16
something something absolutely insane, never seen it lose
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55552 Posts
June 06 2020 14:22 GMT
#17
Elazer is really desperately trying to make something out of nothing here for the 2nd game in a row.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
June 06 2020 14:34 GMT
#18
That series went as expected.
Mendici sumus. Hoc est verum. | I don't mind straight people, as long as they act gay in public. | Es ist keine Tugend edel geboren werden, sondern sich edel machen | οἶδα οὐκ εἰδώς
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2020 14:35 GMT
#19
Aww man Elazer got stomped
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kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia490 Posts
June 06 2020 14:35 GMT
#20
Somehow Elazer reminds me of a Zerg version of Mana.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 14:41 GMT
#21
Hmm this music is not that clowny at all
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 06 2020 14:47 GMT
#22
On June 06 2020 23:41 sneakyfox wrote:
Hmm this music is not that clowny at all


BIG MISTAKE
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 06 2020 14:52 GMT
#23
These guys are crazy!
I like Tods analogy of 2 boxers with no guard just constantly punching each others face.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 06 2020 14:55 GMT
#24
On June 06 2020 23:52 DBooN wrote:
These guys are crazy!
I like Tods analogy of 2 boxers with no guard just constantly punching each others face.


The point is to kill the other guy, why spend energy on defending yourself when you could spend it on making the other guy less alive?
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4554 Posts
June 06 2020 14:58 GMT
#25
zest DTs are somehow stronger than the usual
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
June 06 2020 14:58 GMT
#26
Uthermal playing a (relatively) standard tvp just doesn't feel right.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 14:59 GMT
#27
On June 06 2020 23:58 yht9657 wrote:
Uthermal playing a (relatively) standard tvp just doesn't feel right.


It's certainly not how you win games in the TSL
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 06 2020 15:05 GMT
#28
just curious, are the koreans playing on high ping?
-Terran-
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 06 2020 15:06 GMT
#29
Zest is best at losing to Uthermal allins after scouting them.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 15:07 GMT
#30
On June 06 2020 21:58 Lorning wrote:
Nothing better than an afternoon of starcraft and beer.


Zest is that you?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 06 2020 15:07 GMT
#31
On June 07 2020 00:05 Vertical wrote:
just curious, are the koreans playing on high ping?


As far as I know series are played on a server that minimizes/evens out ping for both players
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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 06 2020 15:09 GMT
#32
since when Woody Harrelson starts casting Starcraft 2 games?
-Terran-
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
June 06 2020 15:09 GMT
#33
On June 07 2020 00:06 DBooN wrote:
Zest is best at losing to Uthermal allins after scouting them.


He didn't scout it tho, he scouted a marauder which is super uncommon and probably expected a rax push, not a super early marauder tank push.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 06 2020 15:10 GMT
#34
On June 07 2020 00:07 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 00:05 Vertical wrote:
just curious, are the koreans playing on high ping?


As far as I know series are played on a server that minimizes/evens out ping for both players

means they're using server that makes the ping equal to both players?
that's so smart.
-Terran-
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 15:15 GMT
#35
Ouch

"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
June 06 2020 15:16 GMT
#36
On June 07 2020 00:15 sneakyfox wrote:
Ouch

https://twitter.com/ElazerSC2/status/1269286656118587393

hey, firefox properly shows tweets again!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 06 2020 15:19 GMT
#37
On June 07 2020 00:15 sneakyfox wrote:
Ouch

https://twitter.com/ElazerSC2/status/1269286656118587393

I missed the game. what happened? Innovation mind tricking again?
-Terran-
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 06 2020 15:21 GMT
#38
Somehow I still have the ability to be disappointed by TSL5 results and game-quality. I would have thought i'd be immune by now
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 06 2020 15:28 GMT
#39
On June 07 2020 00:19 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 00:15 sneakyfox wrote:
Ouch

https://twitter.com/ElazerSC2/status/1269286656118587393

I missed the game. what happened? Innovation mind tricking again?

Game 1 Inno got 5 overlords with a viking and then walked over him, Game 2 Inno killed him with proxy 2 rax and then game 3 Inno just walked over him I think.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 06 2020 15:30 GMT
#40
This is a beautiful day for starcraft. Now for soO to win it all, eh
Year of MaxPax
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
June 06 2020 15:30 GMT
#41
let's all balance whine supper hard on the 2v2v2v2
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2020 15:33 GMT
#42
On June 07 2020 00:30 Penev wrote:
let's all balance whine supper hard on the 2v2v2v2

I for one find it absolutely disgusting that blizzard has no regard for 2v2v2v2 balancing. Why is 1v1 regarded higher than this amazing game mode? Ugh...
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
June 06 2020 15:38 GMT
#43
On June 07 2020 00:33 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 00:30 Penev wrote:
let's all balance whine supper hard on the 2v2v2v2

I for one find it absolutely disgusting that blizzard has no regard for 2v2v2v2 balancing. Why is 1v1 regarded higher than this amazing game mode? Ugh...

they clearly want to divide us in smaller groups so we're easier to control, the fascist way
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 06 2020 15:40 GMT
#44
One of the best grand finals matchups in a long time IMO
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 06 2020 15:53 GMT
#45
Biggest mistake of SC2 esports was never making a serious push for more team games. Obviously 2v2v2v2 is a joke format but Archon Mode or 2v2 could be really fun to watch in a serious setting
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4731 Posts
June 06 2020 15:58 GMT
#46
On June 07 2020 00:53 Zealously wrote:
Biggest mistake of SC2 esports was never making a serious push for more team games. Obviously 2v2v2v2 is a joke format but Archon Mode or 2v2 could be really fun to watch in a serious setting


I actually agree, the RTS game balanced around 2/2 not 1/1 could be both fun and big.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 06 2020 15:58 GMT
#47
On June 07 2020 00:53 Zealously wrote:
Biggest mistake of SC2 esports was never making a serious push for more team games. Obviously 2v2v2v2 is a joke format but Archon Mode or 2v2 could be really fun to watch in a serious setting

BW and SC2 are 1v1 games, they just are. There were serious attempts to make 2v2 and whatnot competitive, but none of them stuck
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2020 16:01 GMT
#48
Seems like it would be hell to balance. 1v1 has only 3 non-mirror matchups, for 2v2 this rises to .. well a lot
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 06 2020 16:07 GMT
#49
On June 07 2020 00:58 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 00:53 Zealously wrote:
Biggest mistake of SC2 esports was never making a serious push for more team games. Obviously 2v2v2v2 is a joke format but Archon Mode or 2v2 could be really fun to watch in a serious setting

BW and SC2 are 1v1 games, they just are. There were serious attempts to make 2v2 and whatnot competitive, but none of them stuck


Core issue is balance details being static between 1v1 and team games. Any given unit could be busted in a team mode but terrible 1v1, theoretically. I fully understand it's hell to balance and hard to make work, but it still feels sad
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4731 Posts
June 06 2020 16:11 GMT
#50
A game like that would need to be designed from the scratch as 2/2. Doesnt necesserily need to look anything like SC. Could be designed around roles rather then races like Dota/LoL are --> You need to pick a certain role for Your team from large rooster of available 'races'. Dota/Lol are doing very good even when meta is obviously skewed towards certain champions because with bans and rotating picks You the teams end up more or less balanced.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2020 16:11 GMT
#51
Let this be the opposite of a clown fiesta

Maybe a clown siesta
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
June 06 2020 16:12 GMT
#52
only one?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 16:13 GMT
#53
On June 07 2020 01:12 Penev wrote:
only one?


No passion

Also, bunkers should have Lift-off
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 16:14 GMT
#54
On June 07 2020 01:11 Lorning wrote:
Let this be the opposite of a clown fiesta

Maybe a clown siesta


A flown siesta?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
June 06 2020 16:14 GMT
#55
On June 07 2020 01:13 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 01:12 Penev wrote:
only one?


No passion

Also, bunkers should have Lift-off

first, something needs to be done about that build time
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2020 16:15 GMT
#56
On June 07 2020 01:14 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 01:11 Lorning wrote:
Let this be the opposite of a clown fiesta

Maybe a clown siesta


A flown siesta?

I mean, siesta implies a 2-3 hour long game. This cannot possible be bad.
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
June 06 2020 16:16 GMT
#57
Innovation with over 9000 IQ play
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 16:18 GMT
#58
On June 07 2020 01:15 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 01:14 sneakyfox wrote:
On June 07 2020 01:11 Lorning wrote:
Let this be the opposite of a clown fiesta

Maybe a clown siesta


A flown siesta?

I mean, siesta implies a 2-3 hour long game. This cannot possible be bad.


2-3 hours of scv pulls and dark templar striding around in the shadows. Oh, we should be so lucky
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
June 06 2020 16:19 GMT
#59
On June 07 2020 01:15 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 01:14 sneakyfox wrote:
On June 07 2020 01:11 Lorning wrote:
Let this be the opposite of a clown fiesta

Maybe a clown siesta


A flown siesta?

I mean, siesta implies a 2-3 hour long game. This cannot possible be bad.

you clearly weren't around when lillekanin rose to "fame"
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2020 16:20 GMT
#60
On June 07 2020 01:19 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 01:15 Lorning wrote:
On June 07 2020 01:14 sneakyfox wrote:
On June 07 2020 01:11 Lorning wrote:
Let this be the opposite of a clown fiesta

Maybe a clown siesta


A flown siesta?

I mean, siesta implies a 2-3 hour long game. This cannot possible be bad.

you clearly weren't around when lillekanin rose to "fame"

I did witness MaNa vs FireCake

I loved it
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 06 2020 16:21 GMT
#61
What were all of Rotterdams predictions?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 16:22 GMT
#62
Still there is something going on with "siesta" and "shadow" here that we are missing, since the two are obviously connected. Something subliminal about shadow stride and chilling out...
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 06 2020 16:26 GMT
#63
Zest pls stop being worst...
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2020 16:26 GMT
#64
Dat classic Zest bank
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Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
569 Posts
June 06 2020 16:26 GMT
#65
TvP is so dumb.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
June 06 2020 16:26 GMT
#66
Lol, why Zest tried to engage in that choke?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
June 06 2020 16:26 GMT
#67
some exquisite Zest macro right there
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
June 06 2020 16:27 GMT
#68
Wow, I didn't realise that Zest had 1300 minerals in the end as well
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
June 06 2020 16:28 GMT
#69
On June 07 2020 01:26 Athenau wrote:
TvP is so dumb.


While I feel it's important to point out Zest's poor spending, I do agree.
Bio tank is just absurdly strong vs everything protoss has before critical mass splash comes out, especially after the charge nerf.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 06 2020 16:28 GMT
#70
Innovation is what BitbyBit wishes he could be
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 06 2020 16:28 GMT
#71
Zest playing single campaign mode with a win condition of "stay alive with 1000 minerals by 10 minutes".
gg no re thx
Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
569 Posts
June 06 2020 16:30 GMT
#72
On June 07 2020 01:28 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 01:26 Athenau wrote:
TvP is so dumb.


While I feel it's important to point out Zest's poor spending, I do agree.
Bio tank is just absurdly strong vs everything protoss has before critical mass splash comes out, especially after the charge nerf.

Not a balance complaint, the match-up is just cancerous in general right now.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 16:32 GMT
#73
Inno has been going for these scv-pull all-ins since at least 2018. But tbh I can't remember him consistently doing anything else for the whole of LotV.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
June 06 2020 16:33 GMT
#74
On June 07 2020 01:30 Athenau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 01:28 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
On June 07 2020 01:26 Athenau wrote:
TvP is so dumb.


While I feel it's important to point out Zest's poor spending, I do agree.
Bio tank is just absurdly strong vs everything protoss has before critical mass splash comes out, especially after the charge nerf.

Not a balance complaint, the match-up is just cancerous in general right now.


Sure, but it seems to me that the huge power shifts depending on how much splash protoss has out makes this a lot worse, and tilts the meta towards these tank all-ins =/
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 06 2020 16:34 GMT
#75
Zest always has this habit of floating minerals as a reactive tactic to build the right composition at the right time. Seems questionable when he loses, but he has successes to back up. Just Zest being Zest.
gg no re thx
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 06 2020 16:34 GMT
#76
On June 07 2020 01:28 Bagration wrote:
Innovation is what BitbyBit wishes he could be

I dont think Bitbybit made a tank in his pro career
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 16:35:44
June 06 2020 16:35 GMT
#77
Is that SVCs in those medivacs, Inno?

e: buuuuuh
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
June 06 2020 16:36 GMT
#78
RIP.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
June 06 2020 16:36 GMT
#79
Lol, reverse fantasy timing - zest must be disgusted lol
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 06 2020 16:36 GMT
#80
Damn, 6-0 stomp day by Innovation

so EZ
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 16:37 GMT
#81
But... now there aren't any more matches

What to do now?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 06 2020 16:37 GMT
#82
Inno on John Wick mode ever since Cure killed his puppy.
gg no re thx
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 06 2020 16:38 GMT
#83
I missed soO-Trap, how was it?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
569 Posts
June 06 2020 16:39 GMT
#84
On June 07 2020 01:33 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 01:30 Athenau wrote:
On June 07 2020 01:28 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
On June 07 2020 01:26 Athenau wrote:
TvP is so dumb.


While I feel it's important to point out Zest's poor spending, I do agree.
Bio tank is just absurdly strong vs everything protoss has before critical mass splash comes out, especially after the charge nerf.

Not a balance complaint, the match-up is just cancerous in general right now.


Sure, but it seems to me that the huge power shifts depending on how much splash protoss has out makes this a lot worse, and tilts the meta towards these tank all-ins =/

Well, maybe battery overcharge will make these awful SCV pulls less prevalent. But I do think something needs to be done with the mass disruptor interaction as well now that liberators have less range.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 06 2020 16:39 GMT
#85
So did Rotti get half or more of his predictions incorrect?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2020 16:40 GMT
#86
No siesta
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
June 06 2020 16:40 GMT
#87
hopefully this means the grand finals goes to the ace like a reverse GSL

Also there weren't enough matches left to be smeared over 2 days
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 06 2020 16:42 GMT
#88
On June 07 2020 01:40 Penev wrote:
hopefully this means the grand finals goes to the ace like a reverse GSL

Also there weren't enough matches left to be smeared over 2 days


Nope. This definitely feels strange compared to how packed the first weekends were.

Is Day9 coming to cast tomorrow? Or is it ZG/Rotti?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 06 2020 16:47 GMT
#89
On June 07 2020 01:38 Nakajin wrote:
I missed soO-Trap, how was it?

Roachful.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 06 2020 17:20 GMT
#90
On June 07 2020 01:38 Nakajin wrote:
I missed soO-Trap, how was it?

about what you expect, suffice to say no zerg spellcasters were made, but there was a hive surprisingly enough
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
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