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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 17 2020 13:40 GMT
#201
holy shiettt
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3542 Posts
May 17 2020 13:41 GMT
#202
On May 17 2020 22:40 fastr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:39 darklycid wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:38 fastr wrote:
Dear Blizzard, TvZ is the best matchup in Starcraft when it is balanced, please DON'T MESS WITH IT it's great now

It's terran favored tho rn i'd argue.


It's possible, all the more reasons not to nerf banelings and look at different pvz tweaks

I mean banes are pretty strong in pvz, but everyone says the current proposed change to banes is not the right one.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
May 17 2020 13:42 GMT
#203
Candidate for game of the year
Trans Rights
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
May 17 2020 13:42 GMT
#204
Sick game. In the past the Koreans won all of those, nowadays foreigners take some. Good times for foreign SC2!
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 17 2020 13:43 GMT
#205
On May 17 2020 22:38 mpmaley86 wrote:
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On May 17 2020 22:36 Elentos wrote:
If only DRG had played like this in every game and not just this one


What happened in the first two? I thought Rotti said something like "finally a good game".

In the first game he was going for a roach attack but took a lot of damage so he had to delay it. Then he went for the 1/1 roach ravager attack but Clem was ultra ready at the side DRG attacked and got an easy defense. In the 2nd game DRG again took damage, that time tried to go into LBM like in the 3rd game but never recovered from how poorly things were going.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 17 2020 13:44 GMT
#206
On May 17 2020 22:41 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:40 fastr wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:39 darklycid wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:38 fastr wrote:
Dear Blizzard, TvZ is the best matchup in Starcraft when it is balanced, please DON'T MESS WITH IT it's great now

It's terran favored tho rn i'd argue.


It's possible, all the more reasons not to nerf banelings and look at different pvz tweaks

I mean banes are pretty strong in pvz, but everyone says the current proposed change to banes is not the right one.

Maybe banes should have reduced vs Shield damage.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
May 17 2020 13:44 GMT
#207
Who got these two series right on Liquibets? :D :D

Clem has taken a page out of Maru's late game TvZ book it seems (minus the ghosts).
⚀⚅
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33599 Posts
May 17 2020 13:44 GMT
#208
Not sure how I feel about the DRG peer-hype. Feels like he's topping out at the Code S RO16 level like all the returners
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
May 17 2020 13:44 GMT
#209
On May 17 2020 22:41 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:40 fastr wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:39 darklycid wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:38 fastr wrote:
Dear Blizzard, TvZ is the best matchup in Starcraft when it is balanced, please DON'T MESS WITH IT it's great now

It's terran favored tho rn i'd argue.


It's possible, all the more reasons not to nerf banelings and look at different pvz tweaks

I mean banes are pretty strong in pvz, but everyone says the current proposed change to banes is not the right one.


It's so obvious to everyone that a hp nerf is pointless. Either nerf the damage through the upgrades or the light bonus so that only +3 banelings can one shot probes, and put a 15% damage nerf against buildings so that protoss sim city is more effective against bane runbys (and zerg will think twice about blowing PFs left and right)
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
May 17 2020 13:45 GMT
#210
On May 17 2020 22:41 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:40 fastr wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:39 darklycid wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:38 fastr wrote:
Dear Blizzard, TvZ is the best matchup in Starcraft when it is balanced, please DON'T MESS WITH IT it's great now

It's terran favored tho rn i'd argue.


It's possible, all the more reasons not to nerf banelings and look at different pvz tweaks

I mean banes are pretty strong in pvz, but everyone says the current proposed change to banes is not the right one.


Harstem is advocating for a armor or shield buff who will prevent probes and ht to drop likes flies against bane, sounds good.
But I think all the proposed nerfs will be applied because I have little confidence in Blizz (even if I prefer lotv to hots/wol)
mpmaley86
Profile Joined May 2019
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 13:48:06
May 17 2020 13:47 GMT
#211
On May 17 2020 22:42 Psychonian wrote:
Candidate for game of the year


I feel like this whole GSL S1 so far has had candidates already.
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
May 17 2020 13:48 GMT
#212
On May 17 2020 22:44 Waxangel wrote:
Not sure how I feel about the DRG peer-hype. Feels like he's topping out at the Code S RO16 level like all the returners

Don't know about DRG but Parting ain't topping out at Ro16 !
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
May 17 2020 13:48 GMT
#213
On May 17 2020 22:44 fastr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:41 darklycid wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:40 fastr wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:39 darklycid wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:38 fastr wrote:
Dear Blizzard, TvZ is the best matchup in Starcraft when it is balanced, please DON'T MESS WITH IT it's great now

It's terran favored tho rn i'd argue.


It's possible, all the more reasons not to nerf banelings and look at different pvz tweaks

I mean banes are pretty strong in pvz, but everyone says the current proposed change to banes is not the right one.


It's so obvious to everyone that a hp nerf is pointless. Either nerf the damage through the upgrades or the light bonus so that only +3 banelings can one shot probes, and put a 15% damage nerf against buildings so that protoss sim city is more effective against bane runbys (and zerg will think twice about blowing PFs left and right)


If Zerg has to commit more to killing PFs than they currently do, killing bases will become an exclusively Terran ability in the TvZ matchup.
You already need to commit to suiciding a bunch of gas and hoping there are no mines or tanks that chunk your off-creep banes to have a hope of killing a Terran base.
And if they are prepared, Terran can then float another base over and resume income in seconds.
Meanwhile 4 marauders and a medivac can tear apart a hatchery and spines in as long as it takes to blink thrice with no units lost.
Booze
Profile Joined September 2019
7 Posts
May 17 2020 13:48 GMT
#214
If someone has the playlist that they went through during pauses.
I need it badly! Pretty please.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
May 17 2020 13:49 GMT
#215
On May 17 2020 22:42 Psychonian wrote:
Candidate for game of the year


Lambo/clem on everdream and some reynor/clem were greater and closer imo
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 17 2020 13:49 GMT
#216
On May 17 2020 22:48 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:44 Waxangel wrote:
Not sure how I feel about the DRG peer-hype. Feels like he's topping out at the Code S RO16 level like all the returners

Don't know about DRG but Parting ain't topping out at Ro16 !

Yeah but PartinG's been back for longer and hasn't done military yet.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
536 Posts
May 17 2020 13:50 GMT
#217
Finally we have a fair korean vs. korean match up
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
May 17 2020 13:52 GMT
#218
On May 17 2020 22:49 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:48 Philozovic wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:44 Waxangel wrote:
Not sure how I feel about the DRG peer-hype. Feels like he's topping out at the Code S RO16 level like all the returners

Don't know about DRG but Parting ain't topping out at Ro16 !

Yeah but PartinG's been back for longer and hasn't done military yet.


No it's all about the soul not the time !

I thought he had done his military dudy between 2016 and 2018, I was mistaken it seems
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 17 2020 13:52 GMT
#219
Hoping for some mech
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 17 2020 13:52 GMT
#220
On May 17 2020 22:44 fastr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:41 darklycid wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:40 fastr wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:39 darklycid wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:38 fastr wrote:
Dear Blizzard, TvZ is the best matchup in Starcraft when it is balanced, please DON'T MESS WITH IT it's great now

It's terran favored tho rn i'd argue.


It's possible, all the more reasons not to nerf banelings and look at different pvz tweaks

I mean banes are pretty strong in pvz, but everyone says the current proposed change to banes is not the right one.


It's so obvious to everyone that a hp nerf is pointless. Either nerf the damage through the upgrades or the light bonus so that only +3 banelings can one shot probes, and put a 15% damage nerf against buildings so that protoss sim city is more effective against bane runbys (and zerg will think twice about blowing PFs left and right)

i think nerfing its dmg vs shield is the the safest choice
cracklings still chomp down protoss s natural in no time so bane/ling runby will still be the pain in protoss s ass for eternal
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