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Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
May 17 2020 13:18 GMT
#161
I feel like maybe sc2 should have gone down the dota2/CS GO route... with regional tournaments. TSL EU and TSL KR running simultaneously
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 17 2020 13:18 GMT
#162
On May 17 2020 22:16 fastr wrote:
Stop blaming ping, not only are they playing in pretty similar latency on US, it's also disrespectful to Clem and uThermal, both probably top 5 EU players at the moment

I don't think uThermal quite makes top 5 but he's been looking pretty good anyway.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 13:19:55
May 17 2020 13:19 GMT
#163
On May 17 2020 22:17 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:16 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:14 whiterabbit wrote:
What is happening with KR players? I get it, ping, but in the past they played with same ping and showed so much better games in online tours. Two games I was so hyped 'bout will end 3-0 in one sided games.


the foreign scene has become deeper and the korean scene has become more top heavy


And Zest had a bad day.


I missed zest v uthermal, but after botching that series vs Innovation, could call it a bad week lol

edit: actually gsl was technically last week...
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 17 2020 13:19 GMT
#164
On May 17 2020 22:16 fastr wrote:
Stop blaming ping, not only are they playing in pretty similar latency on US, it's also disrespectful to Clem and uThermal, both probably top 5 EU players at the moment

the only answer is the gap has been closed ...again
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 13:20:05
May 17 2020 13:19 GMT
#165
On May 17 2020 22:18 Sif_ wrote:
I feel like maybe sc2 should have gone down the dota2/CS GO route... with regional tournaments. TSL EU and TSL KR running simultaneously


Global tournaments are rare, it's still nice since the final bracket will be played on KR in the end.
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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
May 17 2020 13:20 GMT
#166
On May 17 2020 22:04 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer

And protoss is evil so ....


Well, Rain, Parting, herO deserved to see other things than a mass protoss op when they won games (even if protoss in hots still gives me nightmare)
Quite a lot of people thought life was a patchzerg in wol but it's true he is a special case overall.
Leenock, nestea, sk had all their decent chunk of zerg op when winning against T. Like everyone does it but T do it way more. Like in war3 this is better, everyone is equally toxic x)

You should hear artosis casting and streaming BW (he plays terran in BW) and the way he talks about protoss and zerg lol and to be honest i think it carries over in artosis' SC2 casting - you will never hear him talk about Protoss and Zerg players like he does Terran players lol


Yep I saw it on reddit but I just don't watch it a lot, I don't like seeing streamers raging too much.
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
May 17 2020 13:21 GMT
#167
On May 17 2020 22:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:16 fastr wrote:
Stop blaming ping, not only are they playing in pretty similar latency on US, it's also disrespectful to Clem and uThermal, both probably top 5 EU players at the moment

I don't think uThermal quite makes top 5 but he's been looking pretty good anyway.


I'd say top 4 is serral reynor showtime clem, then gabe and uthermal are very close, in my opinion anyway
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 17 2020 13:22 GMT
#168
On May 17 2020 22:21 fastr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:16 fastr wrote:
Stop blaming ping, not only are they playing in pretty similar latency on US, it's also disrespectful to Clem and uThermal, both probably top 5 EU players at the moment

I don't think uThermal quite makes top 5 but he's been looking pretty good anyway.


I'd say top 4 is serral reynor showtime clem, then gabe and uthermal are very close, in my opinion anyway

I think Elazer is in contention as well and Heromarine just has the results to definitely put him ahead of uThermal.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 17 2020 13:22 GMT
#169
On May 17 2020 22:21 fastr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:16 fastr wrote:
Stop blaming ping, not only are they playing in pretty similar latency on US, it's also disrespectful to Clem and uThermal, both probably top 5 EU players at the moment

I don't think uThermal quite makes top 5 but he's been looking pretty good anyway.


I'd say top 4 is serral reynor showtime clem, then gabe and uthermal are very close, in my opinion anyway


I'm not sure about rating Clem higher than HeroMarine.
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Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore910 Posts
May 17 2020 13:24 GMT
#170
HeroMarine definitely should be placed highed than Clem based on recent results
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 17 2020 13:25 GMT
#171
On May 17 2020 22:22 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:21 fastr wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:16 fastr wrote:
Stop blaming ping, not only are they playing in pretty similar latency on US, it's also disrespectful to Clem and uThermal, both probably top 5 EU players at the moment

I don't think uThermal quite makes top 5 but he's been looking pretty good anyway.


I'd say top 4 is serral reynor showtime clem, then gabe and uthermal are very close, in my opinion anyway


I'm not sure about rating Clem higher than HeroMarine.

ya i think big gabe > clem
its just the rule of thumb...everything s fancy until the player shows up in offline tournament
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
May 17 2020 13:25 GMT
#172
Clem doesnt need units to win confirmed
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 17 2020 13:27 GMT
#173
I wonder how many medivacs Clem has lost this game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 17 2020 13:28 GMT
#174
i really hope the bane nerf doesnt go through.
TL+ Member
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33710 Posts
May 17 2020 13:28 GMT
#175
Nice throwback game for DRG fans, feels like WoL where he's just killing the Terran army over and over with muta-ling-bane. Feels like he's gonna lose the game tho
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 17 2020 13:28 GMT
#176
On May 17 2020 22:25 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:22 DieuCure wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:21 fastr wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:18 Elentos wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:16 fastr wrote:
Stop blaming ping, not only are they playing in pretty similar latency on US, it's also disrespectful to Clem and uThermal, both probably top 5 EU players at the moment

I don't think uThermal quite makes top 5 but he's been looking pretty good anyway.


I'd say top 4 is serral reynor showtime clem, then gabe and uthermal are very close, in my opinion anyway


I'm not sure about rating Clem higher than HeroMarine.

ya i think big gabe > clem
its just the rule of thumb...everything s fancy until the player shows up in offline tournament


And online HeroMarine gets similar results while speaking english seamlessly on his stream.
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Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore910 Posts
May 17 2020 13:29 GMT
#177
Finally a competitive game.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
May 17 2020 13:30 GMT
#178
What a beautiful game it is!
⚀⚅
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
May 17 2020 13:30 GMT
#179
On May 17 2020 22:28 BerserkSword wrote:
i really hope the bane nerf doesnt go through.


I'm convinced Blizzard will be smart enough to drop it.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 17 2020 13:30 GMT
#180
Overseer diving Widow Mines on the Terran army
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
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