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On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament?
Maybe their ping to NA west or central is higher then for EU player, dunno.
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On May 17 2020 21:58 JanDe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament? Maybe their ping to NA west or central is higher then for EU player, dunno. Yeah the Europeans will have somewhat better ping than the Koreans but it should be even enough that both suffer.
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On May 17 2020 21:55 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote: Gg Uthermal
That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat. Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).
I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird. maybe they dont really mean it ;o
Maybe, maybe not, but this behavior is weird, sc2 community would be quite interesting for a crowd psychologist.
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On May 17 2020 21:56 blooblooblahblah wrote: Koreans are jet lagged every time they play ZvZ in the GSL studio nah koreans zvz sucks :0
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I love TvZ on this map, so many good games recently
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On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote: Gg Uthermal
That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat. Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).
I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.
I've been playing starcraft since 1999 and it's just starcraft culture man. Terran is the most played race in SC2, and in BW you have the same thing (which is where I believe this culture comes from) where all the bonjwas just happen to be terran.
I doubt it will ever change.
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United States33360 Posts
On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament?
some mixture of all the above 
online is generally been a more fertile ground for upsets compared to big live tournaments (see: previous TSL's)
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On May 17 2020 21:58 JanDe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament? Maybe their ping to NA west or central is higher then for EU player, dunno.
I am actually not the biggest fan of Clem but he is insand in this mu. Ans zest is not very consistent.
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On May 17 2020 21:59 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2020 21:58 JanDe wrote:On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament? Maybe their ping to NA west or central is higher then for EU player, dunno. Yeah the Europeans will have somewhat better ping than the Koreans but it should be even enough that both suffer.
Two times is still a lot at this level of play.
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On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote: Gg Uthermal
That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat. Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).
I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.
I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer
And protoss is evil so ....
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On May 17 2020 22:00 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote: Gg Uthermal
That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat. Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).
I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird. I've been playing starcraft since 1999 and it's just starcraft culture man. Terran is the most played race in SC2, and in BW you have the same thing (which is where I believe this culture comes from) where all the bonjwas just happen to be terran. I doubt it will ever change.
I didn't follow bw but yes, at this point, I agree it'll always be like this.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
This map reminds me of cloud kingdom
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That was some nice Marine micro.
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Very impressive micro considering the ping
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Germany3367 Posts
On May 17 2020 22:05 Lorning wrote: This map reminds me of cloud kingdom Same map maker, and he explicitly said it's supposed to be CK 2.0.
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On May 17 2020 22:04 Philozovic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote: Gg Uthermal
That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat. Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).
I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird. I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god, FruitDealerAnd protoss is evil so ....
Your alignment system is off. Protoss is Chaotic. Terran is Lawful. Zerg is Evil.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On May 17 2020 22:07 TheOneAboveU wrote:Same map maker, and he explicitly said it's supposed to be CK 2.0. Oh really. CK was a great map :D
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On May 17 2020 22:04 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2020 22:00 BerserkSword wrote:On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote: Gg Uthermal
That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat. Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).
I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird. I've been playing starcraft since 1999 and it's just starcraft culture man. Terran is the most played race in SC2, and in BW you have the same thing (which is where I believe this culture comes from) where all the bonjwas just happen to be terran. I doubt it will ever change. I didn't follow bw but yes, at this point, I agree it'll always be like this.
You should hear artosis casting and streaming BW (he plays terran in BW) and the way he talks about protoss and zerg lol and to be honest i think it carries over in artosis' SC2 casting - you will never hear him talk about Protoss and Zerg players like he does Terran players lol
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On May 17 2020 22:06 seemsgood wrote: 40hp baneling when ??
Yes, let's complain every fight !
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