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followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1449 Posts
May 17 2020 12:58 GMT
#121
On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:
So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament?


Maybe their ping to NA west or central is higher then for EU player, dunno.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
May 17 2020 12:59 GMT
#122
On May 17 2020 21:58 JanDe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:
So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament?


Maybe their ping to NA west or central is higher then for EU player, dunno.

Yeah the Europeans will have somewhat better ping than the Koreans but it should be even enough that both suffer.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
May 17 2020 12:59 GMT
#123
On May 17 2020 21:55 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.

maybe they dont really mean it ;o


Maybe, maybe not, but this behavior is weird, sc2 community would be quite interesting for a crowd psychologist.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 17 2020 13:00 GMT
#124
On May 17 2020 21:56 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Koreans are jet lagged every time they play ZvZ in the GSL studio

nah koreans zvz sucks :0
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 17 2020 13:00 GMT
#125
I love TvZ on this map, so many good games recently
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 17 2020 13:00 GMT
#126
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I've been playing starcraft since 1999 and it's just starcraft culture man. Terran is the most played race in SC2, and in BW you have the same thing (which is where I believe this culture comes from) where all the bonjwas just happen to be terran.

I doubt it will ever change.

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
May 17 2020 13:00 GMT
#127
On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:
So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament?


some mixture of all the above

online is generally been a more fertile ground for upsets compared to big live tournaments (see: previous TSL's)
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
May 17 2020 13:01 GMT
#128
On May 17 2020 21:58 JanDe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:
So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament?


Maybe their ping to NA west or central is higher then for EU player, dunno.


I am actually not the biggest fan of Clem but he is insand in this mu.
Ans zest is not very consistent.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 17 2020 13:01 GMT
#129
On May 17 2020 21:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 21:58 JanDe wrote:
On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:
So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament?


Maybe their ping to NA west or central is higher then for EU player, dunno.

Yeah the Europeans will have somewhat better ping than the Koreans but it should be even enough that both suffer.


Two times is still a lot at this level of play.
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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1676 Posts
May 17 2020 13:04 GMT
#130
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer

And protoss is evil so ....
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
May 17 2020 13:04 GMT
#131
On May 17 2020 22:00 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I've been playing starcraft since 1999 and it's just starcraft culture man. Terran is the most played race in SC2, and in BW you have the same thing (which is where I believe this culture comes from) where all the bonjwas just happen to be terran.

I doubt it will ever change.



I didn't follow bw but yes, at this point, I agree it'll always be like this.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 17 2020 13:05 GMT
#132
This map reminds me of cloud kingdom
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 17 2020 13:06 GMT
#133
That was some nice Marine micro.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 17 2020 13:06 GMT
#134
40hp baneling when ??
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 17 2020 13:07 GMT
#135
Very impressive micro considering the ping
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
May 17 2020 13:07 GMT
#136
On May 17 2020 22:05 Lorning wrote:
This map reminds me of cloud kingdom

Same map maker, and he explicitly said it's supposed to be CK 2.0.
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 17 2020 13:07 GMT
#137
On May 17 2020 22:04 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer

And protoss is evil so ....


Your alignment system is off. Protoss is Chaotic. Terran is Lawful. Zerg is Evil.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 17 2020 13:07 GMT
#138
On May 17 2020 22:07 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:05 Lorning wrote:
This map reminds me of cloud kingdom

Same map maker, and he explicitly said it's supposed to be CK 2.0.

Oh really. CK was a great map :D
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 17 2020 13:08 GMT
#139
On May 17 2020 22:04 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:00 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I've been playing starcraft since 1999 and it's just starcraft culture man. Terran is the most played race in SC2, and in BW you have the same thing (which is where I believe this culture comes from) where all the bonjwas just happen to be terran.

I doubt it will ever change.



I didn't follow bw but yes, at this point, I agree it'll always be like this.


You should hear artosis casting and streaming BW (he plays terran in BW) and the way he talks about protoss and zerg lol and to be honest i think it carries over in artosis' SC2 casting - you will never hear him talk about Protoss and Zerg players like he does Terran players lol
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 17 2020 13:08 GMT
#140
On May 17 2020 22:06 seemsgood wrote:
40hp baneling when ??


Yes, let's complain every fight !
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