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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
May 17 2020 13:09 GMT
#141
On May 17 2020 22:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:04 Philozovic wrote:
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer

And protoss is evil so ....


Your alignment system is off. Protoss is Chaotic. Terran is Lawful. Zerg is Evil.


Protoss is the great evil preventing us from TvZ all day every day
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
May 17 2020 13:11 GMT
#142
both of those liquid terrans dismantling their opponents was very impressive
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 17 2020 13:11 GMT
#143
On May 17 2020 22:11 SenorChang wrote:
both of those liquid terrans dismantling their opponents was very impressive


home tournament advantage right?
TL+ Member
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 17 2020 13:11 GMT
#144
On May 17 2020 22:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:04 Philozovic wrote:
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer

And protoss is evil so ....


Your alignment system is off. Protoss is Chaotic. Terran is Lawful. Zerg is Evil.

in which universe tho ? ;0 from many people s point of view the protoss s been evil since big bang !
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 13:12:45
May 17 2020 13:11 GMT
#145
On May 17 2020 22:00 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I've been playing starcraft since 1999 and it's just starcraft culture man. Terran is the most played race in SC2, and in BW you have the same thing (which is where I believe this culture comes from) where all the bonjwas just happen to be terran.

I doubt it will ever change.



Well except the one who should not be named
On May 17 2020 22:11 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:04 Philozovic wrote:
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer

And protoss is evil so ....


Your alignment system is off. Protoss is Chaotic. Terran is Lawful. Zerg is Evil.

in which universe tho ? ;0 from many people s point of view the protoss s been evil since big bang !


Protoss was evil even before things started to exist
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
May 17 2020 13:12 GMT
#146
whats the ping for the korean players to EU server?
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 17 2020 13:12 GMT
#147
On May 17 2020 22:09 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:04 Philozovic wrote:
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer

And protoss is evil so ....


Your alignment system is off. Protoss is Chaotic. Terran is Lawful. Zerg is Evil.


Protoss is the great evil preventing us from TvZ all day every day


Zerg is the great evil at the end of all things. They ushered in the end of Wings of Liberty with the plague of Brood Lord/Infestor, and the end of Heart of the Swarm with the plague of Swarm Hosts. When SC2 dies, it will be in a deluge of PatchZergs.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
May 17 2020 13:12 GMT
#148
Day9 showed up ready! Im positively surprised
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
May 17 2020 13:13 GMT
#149
On May 17 2020 22:00 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 21:56 HeroSandro wrote:
So, what are the reasons that koreans are losing every game? Lag, jet lag, they do not care about the tournament?


some mixture of all the above

online is generally been a more fertile ground for upsets compared to big live tournaments (see: previous TSL's)


While it's true that online is more versatile, DRG beating Clem would be the upset here, not the other way around.
It's not 2014, the korean flag next to your name alone does not make you the favorite anymore.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 17 2020 13:13 GMT
#150
On May 17 2020 22:12 Let it Raine wrote:
whats the ping for the korean players to EU server?


Very bad, but they're not playing on EU server
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
May 17 2020 13:13 GMT
#151
On May 17 2020 22:12 Let it Raine wrote:
whats the ping for the korean players to EU server?


They are on NA
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 17 2020 13:13 GMT
#152
On May 17 2020 22:09 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:04 Philozovic wrote:
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer

And protoss is evil so ....


Your alignment system is off. Protoss is Chaotic. Terran is Lawful. Zerg is Evil.


Protoss is the great evil preventing us from TvZ all day every day

no so fast ! zerg is the second evil preventing us from TvT all day
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
May 17 2020 13:14 GMT
#153
On May 17 2020 22:12 Let it Raine wrote:
whats the ping for the korean players to EU server?

They're not playing EU. That'd be in the 300 range. NA is already bad.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
May 17 2020 13:14 GMT
#154
What is happening with KR players? I get it, ping, but in the past they played with same ping and showed so much better games in online tours. Two games I was so hyped 'bout will end 3-0 in one sided games.
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
May 17 2020 13:15 GMT
#155
On May 17 2020 22:12 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:09 Philozovic wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:04 Philozovic wrote:
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer

And protoss is evil so ....


Your alignment system is off. Protoss is Chaotic. Terran is Lawful. Zerg is Evil.


Protoss is the great evil preventing us from TvZ all day every day


Zerg is the great evil at the end of all things. They ushered in the end of Wings of Liberty with the plague of Brood Lord/Infestor, and the end of Heart of the Swarm with the plague of Swarm Hosts. When SC2 dies, it will be in a deluge of PatchZergs.


Didn't you know that it was protoss that made free units a thing ?

NOUS SACHONS
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 17 2020 13:16 GMT
#156
On May 17 2020 22:14 whiterabbit wrote:
What is happening with KR players? I get it, ping, but in the past they played with same ping and showed so much better games in online tours. Two games I was so hyped 'bout will end 3-0 in one sided games.


the foreign scene has become deeper and the korean scene has become more top heavy

TL+ Member
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 17 2020 13:16 GMT
#157
On May 17 2020 22:11 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:07 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On May 17 2020 22:04 Philozovic wrote:
On May 17 2020 21:50 stilt wrote:
Gg Uthermal

That said, it's a bit weird how people behavior changes depending of the race played, whatever the time/meta is (2011, 2015, 2013, 2016 had very good moments for T but it didn't change much), when a terran is winning no matter how everything is fine but when a zerg or protoss wins there are a tons of derogatory comments like patchzerg, toss or whatever especially in reddit/twitch chat.
Like, most of terrans fans don't respect other players, the only non terran player universally recognized as godlike might have been Life (or JD for his bw status).

I don't think it is because of the community figures, nathanias or avilo are bads but demuslim is pretty chill, well other pro terrans might whine more than their counterparts but they actually recognize when a toss/zerg players is good, it's more the guys below who don't. It's just weird.


I don't recall anyone badmouthing Nestea, Life, Leenock, JD, Soulkey or the original one true god,FruitDealer

And protoss is evil so ....


Your alignment system is off. Protoss is Chaotic. Terran is Lawful. Zerg is Evil.

in which universe tho ? ;0 from many people s point of view the protoss s been evil since big bang !


That's because propaganda is written by the victors, and Terrans absolutely hate Chaos.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France901 Posts
May 17 2020 13:16 GMT
#158
Stop blaming ping, not only are they playing in pretty similar latency on US, it's also disrespectful to Clem and uThermal, both probably top 5 EU players at the moment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
May 17 2020 13:17 GMT
#159
On May 17 2020 22:16 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2020 22:14 whiterabbit wrote:
What is happening with KR players? I get it, ping, but in the past they played with same ping and showed so much better games in online tours. Two games I was so hyped 'bout will end 3-0 in one sided games.


the foreign scene has become deeper and the korean scene has become more top heavy


And Zest had a bad day.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 17 2020 13:18 GMT
#160
The reaper killing off the creep tumour was super cute
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
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