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On February 29 2020 20:59 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 20:59 Z3nith wrote:
Xavi or Gerrard for me although I have a soft spot for Pirlo Toss a coin to Frank Lampard. Blows almost all midfielders out of the water statistically and in terms of what he's won.
That's if you discard National Team (which I would agree) and only take basic stats I'm pretty sure. (if we start considering key passes, Xassists etc I'm not sure he'd top most categories).
Not very hot take: De Bruyne will end up being one of the best midfielder of all time.
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On February 29 2020 21:02 Schelim wrote:
oh well time to quest my Boner through Nightmare i guess
Dude, we don't want to know what you do with your partner.
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On February 29 2020 21:04 imre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 20:59 Olli wrote:On February 29 2020 20:59 Z3nith wrote:
Xavi or Gerrard for me although I have a soft spot for Pirlo Toss a coin to Frank Lampard. Blows almost all midfielders out of the water statistically and in terms of what he's won. That's if you discard National Team (which I would agree) and only take basic stats I'm pretty sure. (if we start considering key passes, Xassists etc I'm not sure he'd top most categories). Not very hot take: De Bruyne will end up being one of the best midfielder of all time.
I'm sure lots of young impressionable teenagers have KDB in their top 3
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when you 2-0 soo but get a bit outclassed in PvT.. imo really showcases that european terrans need to step up to upgrade EU as a whole. Or that showtime should go to korea
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On February 29 2020 21:05 sudete wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 21:04 imre wrote:On February 29 2020 20:59 Olli wrote:On February 29 2020 20:59 Z3nith wrote:
Xavi or Gerrard for me although I have a soft spot for Pirlo Toss a coin to Frank Lampard. Blows almost all midfielders out of the water statistically and in terms of what he's won. That's if you discard National Team (which I would agree) and only take basic stats I'm pretty sure. (if we start considering key passes, Xassists etc I'm not sure he'd top most categories). Not very hot take: De Bruyne will end up being one of the best midfielder of all time. I'm sure lots of young impressionable teenagers have KDB in their top 3
Not sure if it's a dig or not but god he's so well rounded and his vision is delightful. The kind of player that makes a match worth to watch just because he's playing.
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KDB is amongst the best. He just hasn't got the legend status yet because he hasn't retired and plays for City.
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On February 29 2020 21:03 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 21:00 Ej_ wrote:On February 29 2020 20:59 Xain0n wrote:
Showtime's approach to the matchup is not the right one and like his 10% in PvT against koreans says.
That's the main reason for his loss, not the supposed "huge gap" in skill; I mean, Inno in shape is for sure better than Showtime but not remotely as much as you make it to be. Understanding how to play the game is not a skill, got it. It's the anti-Lambo! (because for Lambo understanding the game is everything, actually executing it means nothing)
I think that's a bit unfair of a way to interpret what he says
im sympathetic to the idea that the absolute top competitors at anything aren't playing 100% optimally, at least from my experience watching various sports over time (whether it's basketball or starcraft)
lambo isn't saying the korean zergs are bad; he's asking why are they shooting 22 foot jumpers instead of stepping outside the 3 point line
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On February 29 2020 21:10 Wildmoon wrote:
KDB is amongst the best. He just hasn't got the legend status yet because he hasn't retired and plays for City.
Playing for City will end up being not bad when we'll look back at their last two season of PL. Would be nice to have this Belgium team win the Euro or next WC before their golden generation falls off.
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On February 29 2020 21:11 imre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 21:10 Wildmoon wrote:
KDB is amongst the best. He just hasn't got the legend status yet because he hasn't retired and plays for City. Playing for City will end up being not bad when we'll look back at their last two season of PL. Would be nice to have this Belgium team win the Euro or next WC before their golden generation falls off.
It will because it's City. Yaya Toure at his peak was unbelieveable but he is incredibly underated.
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On February 29 2020 21:08 imre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 21:05 sudete wrote:On February 29 2020 21:04 imre wrote:On February 29 2020 20:59 Olli wrote:On February 29 2020 20:59 Z3nith wrote:
Xavi or Gerrard for me although I have a soft spot for Pirlo Toss a coin to Frank Lampard. Blows almost all midfielders out of the water statistically and in terms of what he's won. That's if you discard National Team (which I would agree) and only take basic stats I'm pretty sure. (if we start considering key passes, Xassists etc I'm not sure he'd top most categories). Not very hot take: De Bruyne will end up being one of the best midfielder of all time. I'm sure lots of young impressionable teenagers have KDB in their top 3 Not sure if it's a dig or not but god he's so well rounded and his vision is delightful. The kind of player that makes a match worth to watch just because he's playing.
Definitely not a dig, to clarify. People who don't have nostalgia goggles on can see that KDB should be considered one of the modern day greats, hence why young people watching probably think "KDB is a fucking baller". Typical arguments against that are comparisons to players who were great maybe decades ago or (more commonly) great players who don't play in the same position
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On February 29 2020 21:04 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 21:02 Schelim wrote:
oh well time to quest my Boner through Nightmare i guess Dude, we don't want to know what you do with your partner.
i'm actually in Singleplayer
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On February 29 2020 21:13 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 21:04 sneakyfox wrote:On February 29 2020 21:02 Schelim wrote:
oh well time to quest my Boner through Nightmare i guess Dude, we don't want to know what you do with your partner. i'm actually in Singleplayer
you really should cut down on the barb wire then
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On February 29 2020 21:13 sudete wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 21:08 imre wrote:On February 29 2020 21:05 sudete wrote:On February 29 2020 21:04 imre wrote:On February 29 2020 20:59 Olli wrote:On February 29 2020 20:59 Z3nith wrote:
Xavi or Gerrard for me although I have a soft spot for Pirlo Toss a coin to Frank Lampard. Blows almost all midfielders out of the water statistically and in terms of what he's won. That's if you discard National Team (which I would agree) and only take basic stats I'm pretty sure. (if we start considering key passes, Xassists etc I'm not sure he'd top most categories). Not very hot take: De Bruyne will end up being one of the best midfielder of all time. I'm sure lots of young impressionable teenagers have KDB in their top 3 Not sure if it's a dig or not but god he's so well rounded and his vision is delightful. The kind of player that makes a match worth to watch just because he's playing. Definitely not a dig, to clarify. People who don't have nostalgia goggles on can see that KDB should be considered one of the modern day greats, hence why young people watching probably think "KDB is a fucking baller". Typical arguments against that are comparisons to players who were great maybe decades ago or (more commonly) great players who don't play in the same position
Comparing players through different eras in pointless anyway, Mvp was the GOAT of early SC2 but his skill level his obviously dwarfed by Inno's. Doesn't mean he wasn't exceptional for his time. And the same is true for football player, any BPL team would probably trash 70's Brazil just due to all the progress being made. But that's so pointless to compare that.
That being said, let's go Zest.
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Same as always...
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On February 29 2020 21:11 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 21:03 sneakyfox wrote:On February 29 2020 21:00 Ej_ wrote:On February 29 2020 20:59 Xain0n wrote:
Showtime's approach to the matchup is not the right one and like his 10% in PvT against koreans says.
That's the main reason for his loss, not the supposed "huge gap" in skill; I mean, Inno in shape is for sure better than Showtime but not remotely as much as you make it to be. Understanding how to play the game is not a skill, got it. It's the anti-Lambo! (because for Lambo understanding the game is everything, actually executing it means nothing) I think that's a bit unfair of a way to interpret what he says im sympathetic to the idea that the absolute top competitors at anything aren't playing 100% optimally, at least from my experience watching various sports over time (whether it's basketball or starcraft) lambo isn't saying the korean zergs are bad; he's asking why are they shooting 22 foot jumpers instead of stepping outside the 3 point line
I'm definitely exaggerating what he says, I know he doesn't really believe that execution is irrelevant. It's just that he often seems to feel there is something wrong with who wins games in starcraft because they don't play the game the way it is supposed to be played according to Lambo.
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Dear said a Zerg would win, not Dark. In general these IEM vids have had some iffy subs in terms of accuracy (Maru said "I like to use the best strategy" not that "there is no best strategy")
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On February 29 2020 21:13 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2020 21:04 sneakyfox wrote:On February 29 2020 21:02 Schelim wrote:
oh well time to quest my Boner through Nightmare i guess Dude, we don't want to know what you do with your partner. i'm actually in Singleplayer
I really don't want to know what it is that you call "nightmare" then.
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On February 29 2020 21:17 Waxangel wrote:
Dear said a Zerg would win, not Dark. In general these IEM vids have had some iffy subs in terms of accuracy (Maru said "I like to use the best strategy" not that "there is no best strategy")
Nice to know Mal found a new job.
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