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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
February 29 2020 11:52 GMT
#121
ZvZ = best mirror, best matchup. srrrrrrrrr all the way.

PvP is rough, I don't get that matchup. Sometimes it looks like nobody gets it.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
February 29 2020 11:52 GMT
#122
I think showtime can play better than that. Oh well.
DONATE SC2 BETA KEY TO ME PLEASE
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-29 11:52:27
February 29 2020 11:52 GMT
#123
On February 29 2020 20:45 Musicus wrote:
Are Tempests no longer a thing in PvT vs Liberators?


Protoss loves Disruptors so much they forgot novas can't shoot up.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
February 29 2020 11:52 GMT
#124
On February 29 2020 20:49 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:43 stilt wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:38 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:37 Waxangel wrote:
The way Korea has the mechanically gifted Terrans while the foreign scene gets the macro-zergs sorta reminds me of how soccer talent is distributed. Brazil has the finesseful attacking midfielders, Italy has disciplined centerbacks, england has guys who kick you in the shins...

okay I jsut wanted to make a bad football joke


So outdated too


I disagree, south america and especially brazil has overall the best attacking players of all time but overall, I'd say the best midfieldlers belong to Europe (Zidane, Luis Suarez, Rivera, Platini, Xavi)


One of the players you listed one is still active but is 33 and not a midfielder. Sounds outdated to me.

Also, again, Luis Suarez is from Uruguay which is not a country located in Europe last time I looked.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 29 2020 11:53 GMT
#125
That was delightful as an Inno fan. Or is Showtime PvT that bad?
Looking forward to the bo5 with Serral!
Zest fanboy.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
February 29 2020 11:53 GMT
#126
On February 29 2020 20:49 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:43 stilt wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:38 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:37 Waxangel wrote:
The way Korea has the mechanically gifted Terrans while the foreign scene gets the macro-zergs sorta reminds me of how soccer talent is distributed. Brazil has the finesseful attacking midfielders, Italy has disciplined centerbacks, england has guys who kick you in the shins...

okay I jsut wanted to make a bad football joke


So outdated too


I disagree, south america and especially brazil has overall the best attacking players of all time but overall, I'd say the best midfieldlers belong to Europe (Zidane, Luis Suarez, Rivera, Platini, Xavi)


One of the players you listed one is still active but is 33 and not a midfielder. Sounds outdated to me.


Woops, I wanted to quote wax directly.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
February 29 2020 11:53 GMT
#127
On February 29 2020 20:51 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:50 sneakyfox wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:48 Schelim wrote:
even though Inno was in full control this entire series, somehow Showtime still looked pretty good imo


He certainly has handsome features but that doesn't help you much in a computer game.

Tell that to poor Effort who was denied a salary rise, because he wasn't handsome

is that really a thing or some weird meme? cause that sounds fucked if it's true

i was just thinking, progamer is probably one of the professions where looks play the smallest role
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-29 11:54:37
February 29 2020 11:54 GMT
#128
On February 29 2020 20:52 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:49 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:43 stilt wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:38 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:37 Waxangel wrote:
The way Korea has the mechanically gifted Terrans while the foreign scene gets the macro-zergs sorta reminds me of how soccer talent is distributed. Brazil has the finesseful attacking midfielders, Italy has disciplined centerbacks, england has guys who kick you in the shins...

okay I jsut wanted to make a bad football joke


So outdated too


I disagree, south america and especially brazil has overall the best attacking players of all time but overall, I'd say the best midfieldlers belong to Europe (Zidane, Luis Suarez, Rivera, Platini, Xavi)


One of the players you listed one is still active but is 33 and not a midfielder. Sounds outdated to me.

Also, again, Luis Suarez is from Uruguay which is not a country located in Europe last time I looked.


Also again, and as I previously responded to you, there are 2 luis suarez, one of them is a legendary spanish midfield.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 29 2020 11:54 GMT
#129
On February 29 2020 20:51 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:50 sneakyfox wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:48 Schelim wrote:
even though Inno was in full control this entire series, somehow Showtime still looked pretty good imo


He certainly has handsome features but that doesn't help you much in a computer game.

Tell that to poor Effort who was denied a salary rise, because he wasn't handsome


The Starcraft and K-pop teamhouse environments have not always been properly separated it seems.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-29 11:54:31
February 29 2020 11:54 GMT
#130
On February 29 2020 20:52 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:49 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:43 stilt wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:38 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:37 Waxangel wrote:
The way Korea has the mechanically gifted Terrans while the foreign scene gets the macro-zergs sorta reminds me of how soccer talent is distributed. Brazil has the finesseful attacking midfielders, Italy has disciplined centerbacks, england has guys who kick you in the shins...

okay I jsut wanted to make a bad football joke


So outdated too


I disagree, south america and especially brazil has overall the best attacking players of all time but overall, I'd say the best midfieldlers belong to Europe (Zidane, Luis Suarez, Rivera, Platini, Xavi)


One of the players you listed one is still active but is 33 and not a midfielder. Sounds outdated to me.

Also, again, Luis Suarez is from Uruguay which is not a country located in Europe last time I looked.


I somehow missed that
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 29 2020 11:54 GMT
#131
On February 29 2020 20:52 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:49 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:43 stilt wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:38 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:37 Waxangel wrote:
The way Korea has the mechanically gifted Terrans while the foreign scene gets the macro-zergs sorta reminds me of how soccer talent is distributed. Brazil has the finesseful attacking midfielders, Italy has disciplined centerbacks, england has guys who kick you in the shins...

okay I jsut wanted to make a bad football joke


So outdated too


I disagree, south america and especially brazil has overall the best attacking players of all time but overall, I'd say the best midfieldlers belong to Europe (Zidane, Luis Suarez, Rivera, Platini, Xavi)


One of the players you listed one is still active but is 33 and not a midfielder. Sounds outdated to me.

Also, again, Luis Suarez is from Uruguay which is not a country located in Europe last time I looked.


you need to check your football history
Zest fanboy.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-29 11:55:32
February 29 2020 11:54 GMT
#132
On February 29 2020 20:51 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:45 Penev wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:43 stilt wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:38 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:37 Waxangel wrote:
The way Korea has the mechanically gifted Terrans while the foreign scene gets the macro-zergs sorta reminds me of how soccer talent is distributed. Brazil has the finesseful attacking midfielders, Italy has disciplined centerbacks, england has guys who kick you in the shins...

okay I jsut wanted to make a bad football joke


So outdated too


I disagree, south america and especially brazil has overall the best attacking players of all time but overall, I'd say the best midfieldlers belong to Europe (Zidane, Luis Suarez, Rivera, Platini, Xavi)

Suarez is Uruguayan


Yes there is luis suarez the uruguyan player and Luis Suarez the first spanish winning a ballon d'or in the 60s, member of one of the strongest barcelona side and of another legendary team, the inter milan of Herrera.

Oh really? Didn't know that, I retract both my comments then. Quite bizar current Suarez is also considered one of the best players in the world.
On February 29 2020 20:54 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:52 Penev wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:49 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:43 stilt wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:38 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:37 Waxangel wrote:
The way Korea has the mechanically gifted Terrans while the foreign scene gets the macro-zergs sorta reminds me of how soccer talent is distributed. Brazil has the finesseful attacking midfielders, Italy has disciplined centerbacks, england has guys who kick you in the shins...

okay I jsut wanted to make a bad football joke


So outdated too


I disagree, south america and especially brazil has overall the best attacking players of all time but overall, I'd say the best midfieldlers belong to Europe (Zidane, Luis Suarez, Rivera, Platini, Xavi)


One of the players you listed one is still active but is 33 and not a midfielder. Sounds outdated to me.

Also, again, Luis Suarez is from Uruguay which is not a country located in Europe last time I looked.


you need to check your football history

yeah, apparently. Weird.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33421 Posts
February 29 2020 11:54 GMT
#133
TFW INnoVation "woke up like this"
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
February 29 2020 11:54 GMT
#134
On February 29 2020 20:52 virpi wrote:
ZvZ = best mirror, best matchup. srrrrrrrrr all the way.

PvP is rough, I don't get that matchup. Sometimes it looks like nobody gets it.

PvPs this tournament have been amazing, there’s hope!
It appears I have been chosen.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
February 29 2020 11:55 GMT
#135
He has ~5 hours to prepare proxy rax builds, seemed to work yesterday
Mine gas, build tanks.
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
February 29 2020 11:55 GMT
#136
On February 29 2020 20:54 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:52 Penev wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:49 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:43 stilt wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:38 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:37 Waxangel wrote:
The way Korea has the mechanically gifted Terrans while the foreign scene gets the macro-zergs sorta reminds me of how soccer talent is distributed. Brazil has the finesseful attacking midfielders, Italy has disciplined centerbacks, england has guys who kick you in the shins...

okay I jsut wanted to make a bad football joke


So outdated too


I disagree, south america and especially brazil has overall the best attacking players of all time but overall, I'd say the best midfieldlers belong to Europe (Zidane, Luis Suarez, Rivera, Platini, Xavi)


One of the players you listed one is still active but is 33 and not a midfielder. Sounds outdated to me.

Also, again, Luis Suarez is from Uruguay which is not a country located in Europe last time I looked.


Also again, and as I previously responded to you, there are 2 luis suarez, one of them is a legendary spanish midfield.


You didn't even mention Cruyff 😢
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 29 2020 11:55 GMT
#137
On February 29 2020 20:51 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:50 Wildmoon wrote:
Innovation doesn't get disrupted!

Turns Out eating shots doesn't matter If you are 6 bases to 4 and have liberstors

but mein liberStoRs are pretty balanced
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-29 11:56:56
February 29 2020 11:55 GMT
#138
On February 29 2020 20:54 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2020 20:51 stilt wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:45 Penev wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:43 stilt wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:38 Olli wrote:
On February 29 2020 20:37 Waxangel wrote:
The way Korea has the mechanically gifted Terrans while the foreign scene gets the macro-zergs sorta reminds me of how soccer talent is distributed. Brazil has the finesseful attacking midfielders, Italy has disciplined centerbacks, england has guys who kick you in the shins...

okay I jsut wanted to make a bad football joke


So outdated too


I disagree, south america and especially brazil has overall the best attacking players of all time but overall, I'd say the best midfieldlers belong to Europe (Zidane, Luis Suarez, Rivera, Platini, Xavi)

Suarez is Uruguayan


Yes there is luis suarez the uruguyan player and Luis Suarez the first spanish winning a ballon d'or in the 60s, member of one of the strongest barcelona side and of another legendary team, the inter milan of Herrera.

Oh really? Didn't know that, I retract both my comments then. Quite bizar current Suarez is also considered one of the best players in the world.


Not the most uncommon hispanic First Name + Last Name I think. And yeah both players were absolutely stellar (one of whom we witnessed and the other you can read about :D).

If you like football reading and watching matches from the 60's, 70's and 80's is super interesting. A totally different sport (so muuuuuuuch time to do something with the ball after your 1st touch).
Zest fanboy.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 29 2020 11:56 GMT
#139
Are we really going to have a discussion about GOAT midfielders in football? Because I have something to say then
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 29 2020 11:57 GMT
#140
On February 29 2020 20:56 sneakyfox wrote:
Are we really going to have a discussion about GOAT midfielders in football? Because I have something to say then


Messi exists, there's no discussion.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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