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[GSL] Season 3 - Ro16 Group Selections!

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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-18 12:57:00
July 24 2019 08:01 GMT
#1

GSL Season 3


Wednesday, Jul 24 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)2019 Global StarCraft II League Season 3/Code S

Streams & Casters


uk Twitch GSL | uk Afreeca |
Afreeca 2 |Afreeca 3 |
Afreeca 4 | Afreeca 5 | Youtube

Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Group Stage #2 (Round of 16): Dual Tournament format.
  • Group Nominations.
  • Best-of-three.
  • The 4 players of each group in Round of 16 will face off similar to round of 32.
  • Players who place 3rd and 4th in their group are eliminated from Code S.
  • They may re-qualify through next season's qualifier.

Map Pool



Players


(Z)Rogue (Z)Dark (T)SpeCial (Z)RagnaroK (P)Stats (T)Cure (Z)hero (P)Zest (T)TY (T)Maru (T)KeeN (P)Classic (P)Dear (T)FanTaSy (Z)Solar (P)Trap

RO16 Groups


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+ Show Spoiler [Group C] +


+ Show Spoiler [Group D] +





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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 09:03 GMT
#2
Fully expecting Dark to screw this up.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 24 2019 09:15 GMT
#3
On July 24 2019 18:03 sneakyfox wrote:
Fully expecting Dark to screw this up.

Anything else would be a disappointment tbh.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
July 24 2019 09:18 GMT
#4
On July 24 2019 18:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 18:03 sneakyfox wrote:
Fully expecting Dark to screw this up.

Anything else would be a disappointment tbh.


At this point, he'd almost be screwing things up if he DIDN'T screw it up.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 09:21 GMT
#5
Dark is gonna first pick Maru
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 24 2019 09:24 GMT
#6
On July 24 2019 18:21 Elentos wrote:
Dark is gonna first pick Maru

Or Classic.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28490 Posts
July 24 2019 09:26 GMT
#7
what would be the ultimate group of death Dark could blunder himself into?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 09:26 GMT
#8
On July 24 2019 18:24 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 18:21 Elentos wrote:
Dark is gonna first pick Maru

Or Classic.

Sadly I doubt either of them is gonna be an option. Maru maybe but Classic should have his own group.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 09:29 GMT
#9
The link to the afreeca stream is wrong in the OP.

For the woke, Afreeca-supporting Starcraft fan the working link is: http://play.afreecatv.com/gslenglish
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 24 2019 09:29 GMT
#10
On July 24 2019 18:26 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 18:24 HolydaKing wrote:
On July 24 2019 18:21 Elentos wrote:
Dark is gonna first pick Maru

Or Classic.

Sadly I doubt either of them is gonna be an option. Maru maybe but Classic should have his own group.

Oh, you are right. Maybe TY or Stats are two other good options then.
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
July 24 2019 09:30 GMT
#11
Shit, I wanted to watch some GSL at the office discretely on my phone and now I want to cry.

We miss you Geoff.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 09:30 GMT
#12
Looks like Maru has his own group
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 09:35 GMT
#13
Maru wants to play against a Zerg, TY wants to avoid Zerg.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 24 2019 09:36 GMT
#14
LOL, Solar doesn't wanna lose against the GSL caster.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 09:39 GMT
#15
These guys are so full of crap, it's great.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
July 24 2019 09:40 GMT
#16
Jin Air villains! I like it!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 09:41:00
July 24 2019 09:40 GMT
#17
lmao Special

Looks like he's powering up the hate machine to improve his TvZ
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 09:41 GMT
#18
Can I please get Ultimate Whine Battle between SpeCial and Dark? I need to know all the reasons Zerg is OP and all the reasons Zerg is the worst race in any RTS game ever.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
July 24 2019 09:41 GMT
#19
LOL! Fuckin1 Maru. "Ohhhh yyyyeeaaaahhh.... I guess I *did* totally wreck his fucking face in the finals that one time. I'd forgotten all about that."
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 24 2019 09:41 GMT
#20
Caster soO is here to be there for TY.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 09:46 GMT
#21
After saying all that, it's so serious BM if Dark picks TY.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 09:46 GMT
#22
"I'm the champion, I'm not supposed to walk"
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
July 24 2019 09:47 GMT
#23
Keen 1st pick. Obvious pick.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 09:49 GMT
#24
Maru should play it smart now and pick a strong player tbh. Minimize the risk of Dark swapping TY next to him.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
July 24 2019 09:51 GMT
#25
Gotta admit, soO looks handsome behind that desk. That jacket works on him.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 09:52 GMT
#26
On July 24 2019 18:49 Elentos wrote:
Maru should play it smart now and pick a strong player tbh. Minimize the risk of Dark swapping TY next to him.


Maybe he should go for a strong ZvZ, Dark wouldn't like that. Solar perhaps?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4127 Posts
July 24 2019 09:53 GMT
#27
The liquipedia link in the OP is to the wrong GSL, should be this one: (Wiki)2019 Global StarCraft II League Season 3/Code S
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 09:58 GMT
#28
On July 24 2019 18:53 M2 wrote:
The liquipedia link in the OP is to the wrong GSL, should be this one: https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/2019_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_3/Code_S

There's also links to Tasteless and Artosis twitters who haven't been to a group nomination in like 9 years, and the link to BW herO.
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
July 24 2019 10:00 GMT
#29
Dark to put himself in a group of death, then blames someone else for his decision
Faker is the GOAT!
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
July 24 2019 10:00 GMT
#30
the face of Fantasy when Maru picks Solar lol
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:01 GMT
#31
On July 24 2019 19:00 AzAlexZ wrote:
Dark to put himself in a group of death, then blames someone else for his decision

I'd be pretty impressed if he went from first picking KeeN to a group of death.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:01 GMT
#32
Now Solar's gonna pick TY
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 10:01 GMT
#33
Rogue's face right now could deal bonus damage to Light units.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:02 GMT
#34
On July 24 2019 18:52 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 18:49 Elentos wrote:
Maru should play it smart now and pick a strong player tbh. Minimize the risk of Dark swapping TY next to him.


Maybe he should go for a strong ZvZ, Dark wouldn't like that. Solar perhaps?


The logical choice. Now Dark should at least not get double value from his swap.

Let's see if it backfires though. Solar's ZvT is pretty strong.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
July 24 2019 10:02 GMT
#35
Oh don't be a jerk solar! Jin Air always has to teamkill each other in this round. Let them play it out for once!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 10:04:13
July 24 2019 10:02 GMT
#36
how can be the runner up the 4th one to pick?

Edit: And the fact Maru is there when he was eliminated in the ro32...
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28490 Posts
July 24 2019 10:03 GMT
#37
On July 24 2019 19:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:00 AzAlexZ wrote:
Dark to put himself in a group of death, then blames someone else for his decision

I'd be pretty impressed if he went from first picking KeeN to a group of death.

unless the commander shows up and it'll be one of those weird Keen days
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 10:04 GMT
#38
Wow, the callout to Dark's group swap.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6971 Posts
July 24 2019 10:05 GMT
#39
Can't watch with sound. Special looks like he is about to cry?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:05 GMT
#40
On July 24 2019 19:02 Argonauta wrote:
how can be the runner up the 4th one to pick?

Edit: And the fact Maru is there when he was eliminated in the ro32...

GSL results from across the year factor into it. Maru won season 1, so he has a high amount of GSL points even though last season was a bust.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 10:07 GMT
#41
On July 24 2019 19:05 Harris1st wrote:
Can't watch with sound. Special looks like he is about to cry?

He was fine. What he said was "It doesn't matter who picks me, I'm going to end up in Group A anyway. So pick me in that group if you want to make things easier for Dark."
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:08 GMT
#42
Wonder how soO feels sitting on the caster side now. He's been on the player side of this a thousand times over.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:09 GMT
#43
Trap just made the shit list.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:10 GMT
#44
On July 24 2019 19:08 Elentos wrote:
Wonder how soO feels sitting on the caster side now. He's been on the player side of this a thousand times over.


Like it's the second best thing ever?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:10 GMT
#45
Well group C is going to be the group of death for sure, it's inevitable.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:11 GMT
#46
Right now C is the group of death
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:11 GMT
#47
What's the over/under on Solar picking Zest?
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:11 GMT
#48
Wow so long time until Ro16 begins.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:12 GMT
#49
On July 24 2019 19:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Wow so long time until Ro16 begins.

Holy fuck.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
July 24 2019 10:13 GMT
#50
asembly summer 2019? First notice of it, Just looked it up . Great lineup! sad no JAGW players attend tho
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:13 GMT
#51
These better be the most well-prepared and thought out groups of all time. So much time. There's gonna be like 3 balance patches and 8 meta shifts before group A.
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La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
July 24 2019 10:18 GMT
#52
[image loading]


GSL paying tribute
pff
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:18 GMT
#53
rofl Special
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:20 GMT
#54
Really yeah what's the point of asking what TY would do if he went back 10 years, he was already a pro by then. Either more or less time needed for him.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 10:22:15
July 24 2019 10:21 GMT
#55
If soO wasn't a progamer, he would have been a K-pop idol. Finally Mizenhauer's reverence makes perfect sense.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 10:22 GMT
#56
Okay, now we need to hear soO's singing voice, at minimum.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:24 GMT
#57
GSL vs the World voting starts in like 5 hours? I guess this was as good a time to announce that as any.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:25 GMT
#58
On July 24 2019 19:24 Elentos wrote:
GSL vs the World voting starts in like 5 hours? I guess this was as good a time to announce that as any.


Lol yes. Guess we need to do a lot of campaigning these next months.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18078 Posts
July 24 2019 10:25 GMT
#59
So do the koreans actually fear Special? They picked keen and fantasy ahead of Special? Unless they think Dark is gonna swap him anyway, so they don't want him?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 10:27:05
July 24 2019 10:26 GMT
#60
On July 24 2019 19:25 Acrofales wrote:
So do the koreans actually fear Special? They picked keen and fantasy ahead of Special? Unless they think Dark is gonna swap him anyway, so they don't want him?

Everyone just accepts that SpeCial is gonna end up in group A. Even Juan himself.
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La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
July 24 2019 10:28 GMT
#61
is it me or is it quite unfair on special, he doesn't seem to get the whole conversation
pff
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:28 GMT
#62
Special trying hard to make things more entertaining.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 10:28 GMT
#63
It seemed like there were mainly three types of answer in that "go back 10 years" question. Either change nothing, get back the time that was lost to isolated practice, or be some other type of pro athlete. My favorite answer was Solar's, though. He's personable enough to do that political stuff.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:29 GMT
#64
On July 24 2019 19:28 La1 wrote:
is it me or is it quite unfair on special, he doesn't seem to get the whole conversation


Why do you think that? He speaks some Korean and gets at least most of what the commentators say before his translator translates.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:30 GMT
#65
Don't think we've ever had 2 people try to talk at the same time before.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:31 GMT
#66
On July 24 2019 19:28 Circumstance wrote:
It seemed like there were mainly three types of answer in that "go back 10 years" question. Either change nothing, get back the time that was lost to isolated practice, or be some other type of pro athlete. My favorite answer was Solar's, though. He's personable enough to do that political stuff.


Yeah he always has the best answers. Remember a couple of seasons ago when they asked them who they wanted to be if they weren't themselves. Everybody named another progamer, usually a very successful one. Solar was like "lol if I could chose anyone I wouldn't want to be some progamer, I would be a pro footballer, Son Heung-min"
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:32 GMT
#67
rofl that group of death
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 24 2019 10:33 GMT
#68
Group C is shaping up to be nice.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
July 24 2019 10:33 GMT
#69
Group of Death already.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
July 24 2019 10:33 GMT
#70
Fuck it, just throw TY into that group. May as well just get it over with.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:34 GMT
#71
Solar just taking a moral stand.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:34 GMT
#72
On July 24 2019 19:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Fuck it, just throw TY into that group. May as well just get it over with.


Don't worry, exactly what Dark is planning
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
531 Posts
July 24 2019 10:34 GMT
#73
Considering that Maru has been coasting on easy Ro16 groups, this is not surprising.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:35 GMT
#74
On July 24 2019 19:34 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Fuck it, just throw TY into that group. May as well just get it over with.


Don't worry, exactly what Dark is planning

Can we please not have a Splyce teamkill? It's like every time they both make Ro16. Let's try something new.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 10:39:41
July 24 2019 10:37 GMT
#75
On July 24 2019 19:34 HeroSandro wrote:
Considering that Maru has been coasting on easy Ro16 groups, this is not surprising.

Classic, MAru, GumiHo, Dear. So ezpz group. Remember you need to win the Code S first to make yourself the easy group

Edit>
Also Maru, Solar, Zest, Patience isn't exactly the easiest possible group out there, but back then it was either a Terran for Maru in RO16 or a teamkill.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:37 GMT
#76
On July 24 2019 19:35 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:34 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 24 2019 19:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Fuck it, just throw TY into that group. May as well just get it over with.


Don't worry, exactly what Dark is planning

Can we please not have a Splyce teamkill? It's like every time they both make Ro16. Let's try something new.


Dark has no soul
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 24 2019 10:38 GMT
#77
Pretty decent group for Fantasy if he shows a better TvP.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:38 GMT
#78
So like... is soO gonna get the MVP award for this group nomination? Let's be honest they're all just letting soO make the groups.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 10:40:30
July 24 2019 10:39 GMT
#79
Ok KeeN, Special it is then


On July 24 2019 19:38 Elentos wrote:
So like... is soO gonna get the MVP award for this group nomination? Let's be honest they're all just letting soO make the groups.


The hands-down choice.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28490 Posts
July 24 2019 10:40 GMT
#80
herO might not bring his keyboard so a solid choice I'd say
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:40 GMT
#81
On July 24 2019 19:37 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:34 HeroSandro wrote:
Considering that Maru has been coasting on easy Ro16 groups, this is not surprising.

Classic, MAru, GumiHo, Dear. So ezpz group. Remember you need to win the Code S first to make yourself the easy group

Edit>
Also Maru, Solar, Zest, Patience isn't exactly the easiest possible group out there, but back then it was either a Terran for Maru in RO16 or a teamkill.

Reminder that 15 players at the group selection laughed at the fact that the 16th one there was Patience.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 10:43:00
July 24 2019 10:41 GMT
#82
Wonder if there is an odd chance that Dark swaps Fantasy into his group instead of making group C even deadlier. Would give him the three weakest TvZ's, couldn't get much better.

Oh right there's also Cure.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:42 GMT
#83
On July 24 2019 19:41 sneakyfox wrote:
Wonder if there is an odd chance that Dark swaps Fantasy into his group instead of making group C even deadlier. Would give him the three weakest TvZ's, couldn't get much better.

Well, he told everyone not to pick Terrans and Trap didn't listen. So Trap is on the shit list. It's possible.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18078 Posts
July 24 2019 10:43 GMT
#84
On July 24 2019 19:38 HolydaKing wrote:
Pretty decent group for Fantasy if he shows a better TvP.

Except that he's being instantly swapped to group A. But I think his TvT is okay, right? And he just has to win 2 TvTs to go through.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 24 2019 10:43 GMT
#85
On July 24 2019 19:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:37 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 24 2019 19:34 HeroSandro wrote:
Considering that Maru has been coasting on easy Ro16 groups, this is not surprising.

Classic, MAru, GumiHo, Dear. So ezpz group. Remember you need to win the Code S first to make yourself the easy group

Edit>
Also Maru, Solar, Zest, Patience isn't exactly the easiest possible group out there, but back then it was either a Terran for Maru in RO16 or a teamkill.

Reminder that 15 players at the group selection laughed at the fact that the 16th one there was Patience.

I was talking mostly about Solar & Zest. The irony is soO who selected his own group where he did end last
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:43 GMT
#86
On July 24 2019 19:42 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:41 sneakyfox wrote:
Wonder if there is an odd chance that Dark swaps Fantasy into his group instead of making group C even deadlier. Would give him the three weakest TvZ's, couldn't get much better.

Well, he told everyone not to pick Terrans and Trap didn't listen. So Trap is on the shit list. It's possible.


And now soO said it too so we know it's going to happen.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:45 GMT
#87
SpeCial is pure hollywood up in here
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:45 GMT
#88
Jin Air is rekt
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 10:46:49
July 24 2019 10:45 GMT
#89
Wonder if this is even good for TY in the end. Now Dark has his perfect group so he's definitely going to use the swap for malicious purposes. TY in group C it is

rofl or he could use it just for spite :D
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18078 Posts
July 24 2019 10:45 GMT
#90
On July 24 2019 19:43 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:38 HolydaKing wrote:
Pretty decent group for Fantasy if he shows a better TvP.

Except that he's being instantly swapped to group A. But I think his TvT is okay, right? And he just has to win 2 TvTs to go through.

Hm. Weird. Is Cure particularly good against Trap?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18078 Posts
July 24 2019 10:47 GMT
#91
On July 24 2019 19:45 sneakyfox wrote:
Wonder if this is even good for TY in the end. Now Dark has his perfect group so he's definitely going to use the swap for malicious purposes. TY in group C it is

rofl or he could use it just for spite :D

Oh. He doesn't have to swap within his own group, does he? So he can just leave his whole group there, and then swap Fantasy with Maru or something.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:47 GMT
#92
I'm shocked Zest is still sitting there honestly.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:48 GMT
#93
On July 24 2019 19:47 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:45 sneakyfox wrote:
Wonder if this is even good for TY in the end. Now Dark has his perfect group so he's definitely going to use the swap for malicious purposes. TY in group C it is

rofl or he could use it just for spite :D

Oh. He doesn't have to swap within his own group, does he? So he can just leave his whole group there, and then swap Fantasy with Maru or something.

He can do any swap that doesn't involve himself, Maru, Trap or Classic.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 24 2019 10:48 GMT
#94
On July 24 2019 19:47 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:45 sneakyfox wrote:
Wonder if this is even good for TY in the end. Now Dark has his perfect group so he's definitely going to use the swap for malicious purposes. TY in group C it is

rofl or he could use it just for spite :D

Oh. He doesn't have to swap within his own group, does he? So he can just leave his whole group there, and then swap Fantasy with Maru or something.

Can he swap the group owner thogh?
Also Dark said he won't put TY in Maru's group if he picks Zerg, Solar was picked
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 10:48 GMT
#95
On July 24 2019 19:45 sneakyfox wrote:
Wonder if this is even good for TY in the end. Now Dark has his perfect group so he's definitely going to use the swap for malicious purposes. TY in group C it is

rofl or he could use it just for spite :D

Remember, they nerfed the swap. The swap can't be used on two out-of-group players anymore. At least one has to be in A.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:50 GMT
#96
On July 24 2019 19:48 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:45 sneakyfox wrote:
Wonder if this is even good for TY in the end. Now Dark has his perfect group so he's definitely going to use the swap for malicious purposes. TY in group C it is

rofl or he could use it just for spite :D

Remember, they nerfed the swap. The swap can't be used on two out-of-group players anymore. At least one has to be in A.


Huh? Are you sure?
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 10:51 GMT
#97
On July 24 2019 19:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:48 Circumstance wrote:
On July 24 2019 19:45 sneakyfox wrote:
Wonder if this is even good for TY in the end. Now Dark has his perfect group so he's definitely going to use the swap for malicious purposes. TY in group C it is

rofl or he could use it just for spite :D

Remember, they nerfed the swap. The swap can't be used on two out-of-group players anymore. At least one has to be in A.


Huh? Are you sure?

Unless it was reverted. It's definitely been the case in some recent seasons.
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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
July 24 2019 10:52 GMT
#98
Haha, Rogue. You dingus.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18078 Posts
July 24 2019 10:54 GMT
#99
Lol. No need to swap TY into group B anymore
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 10:55 GMT
#100
TY says he's going to study herO and figure him out. That would be a first.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 10:56 GMT
#101
On July 24 2019 19:55 sneakyfox wrote:
TY says he's going to study herO and figure him out. That would be a first.

He's been working on that for 7 years but they just never met in the GSL Ro16
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 11:02:24
July 24 2019 10:58 GMT
#102
The Evil Midget is angry


On July 24 2019 19:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 19:55 sneakyfox wrote:
TY says he's going to study herO and figure him out. That would be a first.

He's been working on that for 7 years but they just never met in the GSL Ro16


You wouldn't think that one can prepare for a single match for so long but TY always had that special vision of the game
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 11:02 GMT
#103
To be fair to TY, in his last two encounters with herO, he took multiple map wins both times. And their previous meeting before those was in January.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 24 2019 11:02 GMT
#104
On July 24 2019 20:02 Circumstance wrote:
To be fair to TY, in his last two encounters with herO, he took multiple map wins both times. And their previous meeting before those was in January.

Unless TY slacks he should be better than herO
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
July 24 2019 11:03 GMT
#105
translator is 10/10. He deserves more credit
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 11:03 GMT
#106
S T A T S

You handled that like a pro.


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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 11:04 GMT
#107
This can only be the Cure-Fantasy swap right?
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 11:06:29
July 24 2019 11:05 GMT
#108
Why does lp say sOs in one of the groups?
OK got fixed rn :D
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 11:09:55
July 24 2019 11:09 GMT
#109
Dark with the easiest group, what a surprise. I think he didn't really hurt Fantasy with that swap tho.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
July 24 2019 11:09 GMT
#110
Double team kill!
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 11:09 GMT
#111
Lol Maru is so pissed :D
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 11:09 GMT
#112
This is the part where I note that Dark's last recorded match loss was a ZvT.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28490 Posts
July 24 2019 11:10 GMT
#113
huh, Dark didn't fuck up
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leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
July 24 2019 11:11 GMT
#114
Group C is deadly.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 24 2019 11:11 GMT
#115
No Terran for Maru is good!
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 11:11 GMT
#116
On July 24 2019 20:10 Penev wrote:
huh, Dark didn't fuck up


yeah, but it actually made sense. He was able to get the easy group and be a dick to his rivals. The prerogative of the first pick
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
July 24 2019 11:11 GMT
#117
Group C lol!

At least Cure and Trap can really really practice TvP between them.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 11:15:50
July 24 2019 11:13 GMT
#118
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 11:15 GMT
#119
On July 24 2019 20:11 Argonauta wrote:
Group C lol!

At least Cure and Trap can really really practice TvP between them.

So they can not advance together.
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repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
July 24 2019 11:16 GMT
#120
GSL Major and translator


GSL Incontrol memoriam


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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 11:16 GMT
#121
All I'm saying is that there's a few worlds where Special and Fantasy both make Ro8. Not saying I'm Liquibetting it, just that there are ways.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 11:17 GMT
#122
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.

TY is going to try extremely hard to avoid Dark.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 24 2019 11:18 GMT
#123
On July 24 2019 20:16 Circumstance wrote:
All I'm saying is that there's a few worlds where Special and Fantasy both make Ro8. Not saying I'm Liquibetting it, just that there are ways.


Hmm I think you're going to have to elaborate a bit on that.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 24 2019 11:19 GMT
#124
Depending on what Stats and TY appears at their play day we may end up with 4 JAGW players in the RO8. (if Rogue finally woke up)
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 11:20 GMT
#125
On July 24 2019 20:18 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 20:16 Circumstance wrote:
All I'm saying is that there's a few worlds where Special and Fantasy both make Ro8. Not saying I'm Liquibetting it, just that there are ways.


Hmm I think you're going to have to elaborate a bit on that.

If we take into account every possible world in every possible reality, there's going to be some where Special and Fantasy advance. It probably won't be in this one though.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 24 2019 11:23 GMT
#126
On July 24 2019 20:17 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.

TY is going to try extremely hard to avoid Dark.

OK, let's face it. Unless Dark really screws up he's 1st. Which means TY has two options
1) Win against probably the best PvT in Korea ATM
2) Boost some random Terran(mjr Special?) TvZ so he wins the group instead of Dark

I don't know, Kev
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6971 Posts
July 24 2019 11:24 GMT
#127
On July 24 2019 20:16 Circumstance wrote:
All I'm saying is that there's a few worlds where Special and Fantasy both make Ro8. Not saying I'm Liquibetting it, just that there are ways.




If there are about 100.000+ parallel worlds, then yes I guess there are 2-3 wehre Special and Fantasy both adavance
But there are about 5000+ where neither advances
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 11:26 GMT
#128
On July 24 2019 20:23 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 20:17 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.

TY is going to try extremely hard to avoid Dark.

OK, let's face it. Unless Dark really screws up he's 1st. Which means TY has two options
1) Win against probably the best PvT in Korea ATM
2) Boost some random Terran(mjr Special?) TvZ so he wins the group instead of Dark

I don't know, Kev

TY can beat any Protoss, just has to be on his game. But when he's on his game I still don't see him beating Dark outside of BO3.
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
July 24 2019 11:26 GMT
#129
On July 24 2019 20:24 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 20:16 Circumstance wrote:
All I'm saying is that there's a few worlds where Special and Fantasy both make Ro8. Not saying I'm Liquibetting it, just that there are ways.




If there are about 100.000+ parallel worlds, then yes I guess there are 2-3 wehre Special and Fantasy both adavance
But there are about 5000+ where neither advances


.... so you're saying there's a chance?!

My boy Dark has this ez.
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droppanda
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia176 Posts
July 24 2019 11:29 GMT
#130
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.


Have been watching his streams lately and he has so far not mastered sky terran vs mass investor/corrupter late game. He is trying with liberator/battlecruiser combo like maru has but he is not macroing at anywhere near the same speed as maru, and his liberator/battelcruiser micro is also not up to par.

I think he is going to struggle against dark going by his recent streaming performance.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 11:29 GMT
#131
On July 24 2019 20:26 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 20:24 Harris1st wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:16 Circumstance wrote:
All I'm saying is that there's a few worlds where Special and Fantasy both make Ro8. Not saying I'm Liquibetting it, just that there are ways.




If there are about 100.000+ parallel worlds, then yes I guess there are 2-3 wehre Special and Fantasy both adavance
But there are about 5000+ where neither advances


.... so you're saying there's a chance?!

My boy Dark has this ez.

If we can imagine a world in which it is true, then it is true.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6971 Posts
July 24 2019 11:30 GMT
#132
Somebody said something about GSL v The World.

Care to elaborate for those who missed the show?
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Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
July 24 2019 11:30 GMT
#133
On July 24 2019 20:26 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 20:23 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:17 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.

TY is going to try extremely hard to avoid Dark.

OK, let's face it. Unless Dark really screws up he's 1st. Which means TY has two options
1) Win against probably the best PvT in Korea ATM
2) Boost some random Terran(mjr Special?) TvZ so he wins the group instead of Dark

I don't know, Kev

TY can beat any Protoss, just has to be on his game. But when he's on his game I still don't see him beating Dark outside of BO3.


Until RO8, Protoss might get nerfed too, that's something to take in consideration.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 24 2019 11:32 GMT
#134
On July 24 2019 20:26 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 20:23 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:17 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.

TY is going to try extremely hard to avoid Dark.

OK, let's face it. Unless Dark really screws up he's 1st. Which means TY has two options
1) Win against probably the best PvT in Korea ATM
2) Boost some random Terran(mjr Special?) TvZ so he wins the group instead of Dark

I don't know, Kev

TY can beat any Protoss, just has to be on his game. But when he's on his game I still don't see him beating Dark outside of BO3.

Same can be said about Trap vT(maybe except Maru ), their match can go both ways but while Trap was in a good form and did beat TY in S1 TY managed to return from a short term slump. It will be interesting.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 11:35:09
July 24 2019 11:34 GMT
#135
On July 24 2019 20:30 Vanadiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 20:26 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:23 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:17 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.

TY is going to try extremely hard to avoid Dark.

OK, let's face it. Unless Dark really screws up he's 1st. Which means TY has two options
1) Win against probably the best PvT in Korea ATM
2) Boost some random Terran(mjr Special?) TvZ so he wins the group instead of Dark

I don't know, Kev

TY can beat any Protoss, just has to be on his game. But when he's on his game I still don't see him beating Dark outside of BO3.


Until RO8, Protoss might get nerfed too, that's something to take in consideration.

Terran buffed as well. I think we can cut the might as well, group B is at the end of August, I don't see Blizzard waiting this long. I presume the balance changes will come with the new ladder season, a week before the Ro16 starts and a week after GSL vs the World.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 11:36 GMT
#136
On July 24 2019 20:30 Harris1st wrote:
Somebody said something about GSL v The World.

Care to elaborate for those who missed the show?

As a casual side note they announced voting is going to start in a few hours on TL.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 24 2019 11:36 GMT
#137
On July 24 2019 20:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 20:30 Vanadiel wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:26 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:23 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:17 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.

TY is going to try extremely hard to avoid Dark.

OK, let's face it. Unless Dark really screws up he's 1st. Which means TY has two options
1) Win against probably the best PvT in Korea ATM
2) Boost some random Terran(mjr Special?) TvZ so he wins the group instead of Dark

I don't know, Kev

TY can beat any Protoss, just has to be on his game. But when he's on his game I still don't see him beating Dark outside of BO3.


Until RO8, Protoss might get nerfed too, that's something to take in consideration.

Terran buffed as well. I think we can cut the might as well, group B is at the end of August, I don't see Blizzard waiting this long.

Considering the discussed changes nothing IMO affects Trap's PvT that much.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 11:40 GMT
#138
On July 24 2019 20:36 deacon.frost wrote:
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On July 24 2019 20:34 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:30 Vanadiel wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:26 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:23 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:17 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.

TY is going to try extremely hard to avoid Dark.

OK, let's face it. Unless Dark really screws up he's 1st. Which means TY has two options
1) Win against probably the best PvT in Korea ATM
2) Boost some random Terran(mjr Special?) TvZ so he wins the group instead of Dark

I don't know, Kev

TY can beat any Protoss, just has to be on his game. But when he's on his game I still don't see him beating Dark outside of BO3.


Until RO8, Protoss might get nerfed too, that's something to take in consideration.

Terran buffed as well. I think we can cut the might as well, group B is at the end of August, I don't see Blizzard waiting this long.

Considering the discussed changes nothing IMO affects Trap's PvT that much.

Charge nerf and prism nerf will affect every Protoss very hard if they go through as proposed recently. The positive aspect for Trap is that if the changes come out as I predict, it's unlikely there's gonna be any groundbreaking meta progress (a build that makes perfect use of the stim change) until his group is played

Also they have to worry about beating Cure and herO before they worry about each other
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 24 2019 11:41 GMT
#139
On July 24 2019 20:18 sneakyfox wrote:
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On July 24 2019 20:16 Circumstance wrote:
All I'm saying is that there's a few worlds where Special and Fantasy both make Ro8. Not saying I'm Liquibetting it, just that there are ways.


Hmm I think you're going to have to elaborate a bit on that.

Dark has had the least exposure and worst winrate against Terrans this year in offline play. His last match loss was to Gumiho, who was 2-0d by Armani this season. Special's form against Korean Zergs is unclear, as most of the matches he plays against them are against the same few that do online competitions regularly. In TvT, he has proven time and again that he's capable of hanging tough with all but that absolute best. Fantasy's a build man, adept with preparation. Always has been, so the long gap works in his favor. He has a good deal of relatively recent offline matches against other Zergs in this Ro16, so he isn't being held up by any degree of insufficient practice.

Now, I'm no fool. Dark is the very, very clear favorite in this group. But as we've seen in the past, it's entirely possible to get complacent when you're the top overall seed and you've made what appears to be an A+ group selection (*cough*Inno*cough*). If Dark is too pleased with his results, this might not end up being the battle for 2nd that it appears to be.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 24 2019 11:44 GMT
#140
On July 24 2019 20:40 Elentos wrote:
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On July 24 2019 20:36 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:34 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:30 Vanadiel wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:26 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:23 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:17 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.

TY is going to try extremely hard to avoid Dark.

OK, let's face it. Unless Dark really screws up he's 1st. Which means TY has two options
1) Win against probably the best PvT in Korea ATM
2) Boost some random Terran(mjr Special?) TvZ so he wins the group instead of Dark

I don't know, Kev

TY can beat any Protoss, just has to be on his game. But when he's on his game I still don't see him beating Dark outside of BO3.


Until RO8, Protoss might get nerfed too, that's something to take in consideration.

Terran buffed as well. I think we can cut the might as well, group B is at the end of August, I don't see Blizzard waiting this long.

Considering the discussed changes nothing IMO affects Trap's PvT that much.

Charge nerf and prism nerf will affect every Protoss very hard if they go through as proposed recently. The positive aspect for Trap is that if the changes come out as I predict, it's unlikely there's gonna be any groundbreaking meta progress (a build that makes perfect use of the stim change) until his group is played

Also they have to worry about beating Cure and herO before they worry about each other

What I mean is that Trap's PvT wasn't based around heavy WP usage and chargelots everywhere nor the timings with those. herO? Classic? Zest? PATIENCE? Sure, these will get hit harder than Trap. In PvT, PvZ is a different story.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 11:54:36
July 24 2019 11:52 GMT
#141
On July 24 2019 20:44 deacon.frost wrote:
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On July 24 2019 20:40 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:36 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:34 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:30 Vanadiel wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:26 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:23 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:17 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.

TY is going to try extremely hard to avoid Dark.

OK, let's face it. Unless Dark really screws up he's 1st. Which means TY has two options
1) Win against probably the best PvT in Korea ATM
2) Boost some random Terran(mjr Special?) TvZ so he wins the group instead of Dark

I don't know, Kev

TY can beat any Protoss, just has to be on his game. But when he's on his game I still don't see him beating Dark outside of BO3.


Until RO8, Protoss might get nerfed too, that's something to take in consideration.

Terran buffed as well. I think we can cut the might as well, group B is at the end of August, I don't see Blizzard waiting this long.

Considering the discussed changes nothing IMO affects Trap's PvT that much.

Charge nerf and prism nerf will affect every Protoss very hard if they go through as proposed recently. The positive aspect for Trap is that if the changes come out as I predict, it's unlikely there's gonna be any groundbreaking meta progress (a build that makes perfect use of the stim change) until his group is played

Also they have to worry about beating Cure and herO before they worry about each other

What I mean is that Trap's PvT wasn't based around heavy WP usage and chargelots everywhere nor the timings with those. herO? Classic? Zest? PATIENCE? Sure, these will get hit harder than Trap. In PvT, PvZ is a different story.

A very important part of Trap's PvT is his excellent warp prism harass. Now that's not nearly the only thing that's been making Trap's PvT work, but the ability to deal with a warp prism in your main more easily will surely be a god send for Terrans. And the impact of the core army unit becoming strictly worse remains to be seen.

Those changes combined might actually also make mech in TvP decisively better because the #1 cause of death for people trying to mech has been getting busted by mass gateway units (mostly zealots and stalkers) before having a reasonable sized army.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28490 Posts
July 24 2019 11:55 GMT
#142
inb4 blizzard patches the game and a terran invents a highly abusable TvZ build that isn't countered or nerfed before Darks group
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 24 2019 12:01 GMT
#143
On July 24 2019 20:55 Penev wrote:
inb4 blizzard patches the game and a terran invents a highly abusable TvZ build that isn't countered or nerfed before Darks group

It looks like a 2-1-1 but you actually rush out the EMP upgrade in a hidden ghost academy and remove the transfuse energy from every queen with 1 EMP.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28490 Posts
July 24 2019 12:08 GMT
#144
On July 24 2019 21:01 Elentos wrote:
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On July 24 2019 20:55 Penev wrote:
inb4 blizzard patches the game and a terran invents a highly abusable TvZ build that isn't countered or nerfed before Darks group

It looks like a 2-1-1 but you actually rush out the EMP upgrade in a hidden ghost academy and remove the transfuse energy from every queen with 1 EMP.

nice, I expected an answer using the possible stim buff but this is much better
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6971 Posts
July 24 2019 13:24 GMT
#145
On July 24 2019 21:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 20:55 Penev wrote:
inb4 blizzard patches the game and a terran invents a highly abusable TvZ build that isn't countered or nerfed before Darks group

It looks like a 2-1-1 but you actually rush out the EMP upgrade in a hidden ghost academy and remove the transfuse energy from every queen with 1 EMP.


Or some Marauder/ Hellion timing push with stim and concussive
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 24 2019 13:43 GMT
#146
On July 24 2019 22:24 Harris1st wrote:
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On July 24 2019 21:01 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:55 Penev wrote:
inb4 blizzard patches the game and a terran invents a highly abusable TvZ build that isn't countered or nerfed before Darks group

It looks like a 2-1-1 but you actually rush out the EMP upgrade in a hidden ghost academy and remove the transfuse energy from every queen with 1 EMP.


Or some Marauder/ Hellion timing push with stim and concussive

Hmm, I wonder if this scouted can be beaten by mutas (I mean if they're on time to defend)
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 24 2019 13:57 GMT
#147
Dark could play his group high and still be the overwhelming favourite
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 24 2019 14:12 GMT
#148
On July 24 2019 22:57 Fango wrote:
Dark could play his group high and still be the overwhelming favourite

Well, Inno made an interesting case
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Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States456 Posts
July 24 2019 14:30 GMT
#149
I actually think that worked out pretty well for Fantasy and Special, unless KeeN shows up like he did in the ro32.

Glad to see no KT team kill as well.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6971 Posts
July 24 2019 14:41 GMT
#150
On July 24 2019 22:43 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2019 22:24 Harris1st wrote:
On July 24 2019 21:01 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2019 20:55 Penev wrote:
inb4 blizzard patches the game and a terran invents a highly abusable TvZ build that isn't countered or nerfed before Darks group

It looks like a 2-1-1 but you actually rush out the EMP upgrade in a hidden ghost academy and remove the transfuse energy from every queen with 1 EMP.


Or some Marauder/ Hellion timing push with stim and concussive

Hmm, I wonder if this scouted can be beaten by mutas (I mean if they're on time to defend)


I was thinking like 2-1-1 even without Medivacs at the start. 4 Marauder, 4 Hellions and go. Could then be reinforced by Medivacs who bring the new units to the front so no zergling counter possbile
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18078 Posts
July 24 2019 16:52 GMT
#151
On July 24 2019 20:29 droppanda wrote:
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On July 24 2019 20:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Maru at least he didn't monobattle the groups...

Edit> Thinking about it, Dark has almost certain first place while he may face TY. Not sure how really good his ZvT is if TY is on fire.


Have been watching his streams lately and he has so far not mastered sky terran vs mass investor/corrupter late game. He is trying with liberator/battlecruiser combo like maru has but he is not macroing at anywhere near the same speed as maru, and his liberator/battelcruiser micro is also not up to par.

I think he is going to struggle against dark going by his recent streaming performance.

But the group stage matches are still a month away, so any Ro8 battles are about a month and a half away. A lot can change in that time.
texture13
Profile Joined July 2018
44 Posts
July 24 2019 21:32 GMT
#152
Like others, I thought it'd be funny if Dark screwed this one up too.
Group C looks terribly difficult.
texture13
Profile Joined July 2018
44 Posts
July 25 2019 05:31 GMT
#153
On July 24 2019 19:45 sneakyfox wrote:
SpeCial is pure hollywood up in here


HAH! Cracked me up!
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
July 31 2019 06:05 GMT
#154
Just checked the schedule and the Ro16 is going to be held in 4 weeks time! I wonder why there's such a huge delay...
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
July 31 2019 06:24 GMT
#155
On July 31 2019 15:05 Azzur wrote:
Just checked the schedule and the Ro16 is going to be held in 4 weeks time! I wonder why there's such a huge delay...


because gsl vs the world is in between
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6971 Posts
July 31 2019 07:28 GMT
#156
There is ASUS RoG this weekend and GSL v World in 2 weeks
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