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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 14 2019 13:51 GMT
#261
On July 14 2019 22:49 Argonauta wrote:
Special reading TL treads nice

Last early mid game went better for him tho.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
July 14 2019 13:52 GMT
#262
On July 14 2019 22:51 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 22:49 Argonauta wrote:
Special reading TL treads nice

Last early mid game went better for him tho.



to be fair, special was really behind this game since the early game.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
July 14 2019 13:52 GMT
#263
major noooooo (((((
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
July 14 2019 13:52 GMT
#264
On July 14 2019 22:38 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 22:37 Parrek wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:36 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:32 opisska wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:29 Fango wrote:
how do you beat this without ghosts if zerg if zerg manages the infestors well?


Well so you have to make ghosts, why is that a problem?

It's expensive as fuck compared to infestors.

Yes, but you can EMP the whole clump. Much more value in one ghost than one infestor

You can also fungal all ghosts with 1 infestor, which happens more often

What kind of argument is that?


Simple. Fungal won't kill the ghosts. It's not like he's going for snipes. Getting fungaled < getting everything EMP'd when your infestors are all that keeps you alive
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
July 14 2019 13:53 GMT
#265
On July 14 2019 22:51 Goolpsy wrote:
Anyone noticed how Maynard went full "Reynor my homeboy" - in early game 3 when it looked good for speCial.

Casting only from his point of view. Eventually after 10 minutes of only talking about Reynor, Ben started to only point out things speCial did, just to get a little balance.

As speCial did worse.. and start of game 4 it went 'slightly mroe neutral' again

And Demuslim spoke about "we" when referring to Special.
We all like are own race .
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33510 Posts
July 14 2019 13:53 GMT
#266
On July 14 2019 22:49 Argonauta wrote:
Special reading TL treads nice


except Reynor knew his Greater Spire got scanned so he just kept going bane-ravager-swarmhost iafter making like 2 BLs :[
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
July 14 2019 13:53 GMT
#267
Fun series, good job moms spaghetti ^^
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 13:54:16
July 14 2019 13:53 GMT
#268
On July 14 2019 22:53 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 22:51 Goolpsy wrote:
Anyone noticed how Maynard went full "Reynor my homeboy" - in early game 3 when it looked good for speCial.

Casting only from his point of view. Eventually after 10 minutes of only talking about Reynor, Ben started to only point out things speCial did, just to get a little balance.

As speCial did worse.. and start of game 4 it went 'slightly mroe neutral' again

And Demuslim spoke about "we" when referring to Special.
We all like are own race .

Maynarde mains Terran

To be fair in low diamond league, but it is his main race.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
570 Posts
July 14 2019 13:53 GMT
#269
On July 14 2019 22:52 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 22:38 Ej_ wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:37 Parrek wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:36 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:32 opisska wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:29 Fango wrote:
how do you beat this without ghosts if zerg if zerg manages the infestors well?


Well so you have to make ghosts, why is that a problem?

It's expensive as fuck compared to infestors.

Yes, but you can EMP the whole clump. Much more value in one ghost than one infestor

You can also fungal all ghosts with 1 infestor, which happens more often

What kind of argument is that?


Simple. Fungal won't kill the ghosts. It's not like he's going for snipes. Getting fungaled < getting everything EMP'd when your infestors are all that keeps you alive

Fungal outranges EMP and snares. You're not getting any money EMP's once you're fungaled.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 14 2019 13:54 GMT
#270
reynor continuing his winning streak vs special but damn he had to work for it
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 14 2019 13:54 GMT
#271
Reynor can't stop smiling.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
July 14 2019 13:54 GMT
#272
2 italians in the Ro4!
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
July 14 2019 13:55 GMT
#273
On July 14 2019 22:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Reynor can't stop smiling.

Will he still smile once infestors get nerfed again is the real question
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
July 14 2019 13:55 GMT
#274
On July 14 2019 22:51 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 22:38 ChaosArcher wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:34 Xain0n wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:32 opisska wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:29 Fango wrote:
how do you beat this without ghosts if zerg if zerg manages the infestors well?


Well so you have to make ghosts, why is that a problem?


No idea. Infestors are very strong but ghosts can deal with them.


People talking about this game like it was a split map game where you just build into the perfect composition.
The game was super scrappy, non stop action and trades the whole game. And both players were broke in the late game.
"Just build ghosts lol" is not the answer sometimes.

That being said, super impressed by Reynor. Almost anyone else would have died in the mid/early late game there.
He kept using his swarmhosts the whole game never wasting a single unit. Very cool playstyle and well deserved win imo.


The question was "how you deal with that" and the answer was "ghosts"; implying Infestors are op and uncounterable is what triggers me, because Terran can reliably beat them.
Thus said, I'm not stating it's easy and cheap and that Special was a turd for building ghosts.


Was not trying to single you out, sorry if it came off this way. I 100 % agree btw. Ghosts are the answer to infestors and I hate balance whine like that.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 14 2019 13:55 GMT
#275
On July 14 2019 22:54 Durnuu wrote:
2 italians in the Ro4!


I am confused here
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16022 Posts
July 14 2019 13:55 GMT
#276
On July 14 2019 22:53 Athenau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 22:52 Parrek wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:38 Ej_ wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:37 Parrek wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:36 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:32 opisska wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:29 Fango wrote:
how do you beat this without ghosts if zerg if zerg manages the infestors well?


Well so you have to make ghosts, why is that a problem?

It's expensive as fuck compared to infestors.

Yes, but you can EMP the whole clump. Much more value in one ghost than one infestor

You can also fungal all ghosts with 1 infestor, which happens more often

What kind of argument is that?


Simple. Fungal won't kill the ghosts. It's not like he's going for snipes. Getting fungaled < getting everything EMP'd when your infestors are all that keeps you alive

Fungal outranges EMP and snares. You're not getting any money EMP's once you're fungaled.

not to mention you usually don't get all the Infestors with EMP because they're so fat and getting a fungal on ghosts is usually followed up with banelings rolling in which kills them.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 14 2019 13:56 GMT
#277
On July 14 2019 22:55 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 22:54 Durnuu wrote:
2 italians in the Ro4!


I am confused here

Heromarine is both Italian and German. He qualified for several tournaments through the Italy qualifiers in the past.
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 14 2019 13:57 GMT
#278
On July 14 2019 22:55 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 22:54 Durnuu wrote:
2 italians in the Ro4!


I am confused here


if I'm not mistaken heromarine is part Italian
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
July 14 2019 13:57 GMT
#279
On July 14 2019 22:51 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 22:38 ChaosArcher wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:34 Xain0n wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:32 opisska wrote:
On July 14 2019 22:29 Fango wrote:
how do you beat this without ghosts if zerg if zerg manages the infestors well?


Well so you have to make ghosts, why is that a problem?


No idea. Infestors are very strong but ghosts can deal with them.


People talking about this game like it was a split map game where you just build into the perfect composition.
The game was super scrappy, non stop action and trades the whole game. And both players were broke in the late game.
"Just build ghosts lol" is not the answer sometimes.

That being said, super impressed by Reynor. Almost anyone else would have died in the mid/early late game there.
He kept using his swarmhosts the whole game never wasting a single unit. Very cool playstyle and well deserved win imo.


The question was "how you deal with that" and the answer was "ghosts"; implying Infestors are op and uncounterable is what triggers me, because Terran can reliably beat them.
Thus said, I'm not stating it's easy and cheap and that Special was a turd for building ghosts.

You say Terran can reliably beat them, Solar says BL/infestor is an unbeatable ultimate army.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 14 2019 13:57 GMT
#280
On July 14 2019 22:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 22:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Reynor can't stop smiling.

Will he still smile once infestors get nerfed again is the real question


Will he still smile when EMP becomes huge is the real question; lategame TvZ is even.
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