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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
June 03 2019 12:24 GMT
#1
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(Wiki)2019 WCS Summer/Qualifiers/Europe/Qualifier


WHERE TO WATCH
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WHEN TO WATCH

Day 1 : 3 June 2016 16:00 CEST
Day 2 : 4 June 2016 16:00 CEST


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Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-03 15:36:22
June 03 2019 15:33 GMT
#2
What the heck Sweden

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Are Swedish Zergs doomed to a life of suffering?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 03 2019 15:57 GMT
#3
This banner is making me nostalgic.

Also Nerchio-Soul g3 was hilarious
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
June 03 2019 19:00 GMT
#4
Terran needs buff asap. Notice that I never intended, nor participated, balance discussions but this day was just sad.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 03 2019 19:16 GMT
#5
On June 04 2019 04:00 Stormhoof wrote:
Terran needs buff asap. Notice that I never intended, nor participated, balance discussions but this day was just sad.


These are European qualifiers. Terran is expected to do poorly regardless of meta. And given that Heromarine qualified and that uThermal, Clem and Marinelord were already qualified, terran didn't even do poorly.
Spirit_HUN
Profile Joined March 2018
24 Posts
June 03 2019 19:29 GMT
#6
How long we are going to pretend toss is "balanced"?
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 03 2019 19:59 GMT
#7
On June 04 2019 04:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2019 04:00 Stormhoof wrote:
Terran needs buff asap. Notice that I never intended, nor participated, balance discussions but this day was just sad.


These are European qualifiers. Terran is expected to do poorly regardless of meta. And given that Heromarine qualified and that uThermal, Clem and Marinelord were already qualified, terran didn't even do poorly.


Heromarine qualified, BratOk beat Bly and Kas just 2-0 Mana out of the tournament right now; not sure what you would expect from Terran in WCS qualifiers.

Terran in 2019 performed better than usual in main tournaments, as well. You are complaining for no reason.
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
June 03 2019 21:51 GMT
#8
I don't have a dog in this fight, but Top6 = 5 protoss + heromarine. I don't like the flame, but it's hard to argue against it in this qualifier.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 03 2019 23:06 GMT
#9
On June 04 2019 06:51 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
I don't have a dog in this fight, but Top6 = 5 protoss + heromarine. I don't like the flame, but it's hard to argue against it in this qualifier.


My god, Protoss are so dominant that race distribution for WCS Summer EU qualifier is now perfectly split(it was 1/8 P before)!

Zerg failed big time today and I'm actually surprised Hellraiser and DNS qualified over Drogo, Harstem, Mana, Goblin...
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 04 2019 01:28 GMT
#10
On June 04 2019 06:51 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
I don't have a dog in this fight, but Top6 = 5 protoss + heromarine. I don't like the flame, but it's hard to argue against it in this qualifier.


Tbh these results say more about the state of zerg (who are generally expected to overperform in Europe) and ZvP than anything terran related.
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
June 04 2019 12:10 GMT
#11
Discussing balance off the results of a qualifier to a qualifier that was played after the 8 best players already qualified to the qualifier
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
June 04 2019 22:14 GMT
#12
On June 04 2019 04:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2019 04:00 Stormhoof wrote:
Terran needs buff asap. Notice that I never intended, nor participated, balance discussions but this day was just sad.


These are European qualifiers. Terran is expected to do poorly regardless of meta. And given that Heromarine qualified and that uThermal, Clem and Marinelord were already qualified, terran didn't even do poorly.


Of course, and zerg too. Let's make the game PvP fest. God, I cannot discuss with someone so dellusional. Terrans you mentioned are 2 class above many protoss players qualified, you can't say state of the game is ok. And I am saying this as Protoss player.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1200 Posts
June 04 2019 22:44 GMT
#13
On June 05 2019 07:14 Stormhoof wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2019 04:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 04 2019 04:00 Stormhoof wrote:
Terran needs buff asap. Notice that I never intended, nor participated, balance discussions but this day was just sad.


These are European qualifiers. Terran is expected to do poorly regardless of meta. And given that Heromarine qualified and that uThermal, Clem and Marinelord were already qualified, terran didn't even do poorly.


Of course, and zerg too. Let's make the game PvP fest. God, I cannot discuss with someone so dellusional. Terrans you mentioned are 2 class above many protoss players qualified, you can't say state of the game is ok. And I am saying this as Protoss player.


?

He is right. Clem, MlorD and uThermal were already in. Heromarine qualified. The only small diappointment was souL failing to qualify but EU qualifiers are really hard. Zerg struggles with the diversity of Protoss currently but "IMBA IMBA" is not gonna solve anything.
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Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
June 04 2019 23:02 GMT
#14
On June 05 2019 07:44 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 07:14 Stormhoof wrote:
On June 04 2019 04:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 04 2019 04:00 Stormhoof wrote:
Terran needs buff asap. Notice that I never intended, nor participated, balance discussions but this day was just sad.


These are European qualifiers. Terran is expected to do poorly regardless of meta. And given that Heromarine qualified and that uThermal, Clem and Marinelord were already qualified, terran didn't even do poorly.


Of course, and zerg too. Let's make the game PvP fest. God, I cannot discuss with someone so dellusional. Terrans you mentioned are 2 class above many protoss players qualified, you can't say state of the game is ok. And I am saying this as Protoss player.


?

He is right. Clem, MlorD and uThermal were already in. Heromarine qualified. The only small diappointment was souL failing to qualify but EU qualifiers are really hard. Zerg struggles with the diversity of Protoss currently but "IMBA IMBA" is not gonna solve anything.


I was not talking about terrans who did qualify. I was talking about some unreal results in qualifier and dominance of protoss.

Well, after all eras we had, I think it would help. Sit back and watching viewer shiriking because no one want to watch PvP fest for hours will certailnly not.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 05 2019 00:42 GMT
#15
Hey Arium is in the NA bracket!
That's a hell of a throwback
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
SSNYC77
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
43 Posts
June 05 2019 12:11 GMT
#16
On June 05 2019 07:44 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 07:14 Stormhoof wrote:
On June 04 2019 04:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 04 2019 04:00 Stormhoof wrote:
Terran needs buff asap. Notice that I never intended, nor participated, balance discussions but this day was just sad.


These are European qualifiers. Terran is expected to do poorly regardless of meta. And given that Heromarine qualified and that uThermal, Clem and Marinelord were already qualified, terran didn't even do poorly.


Of course, and zerg too. Let's make the game PvP fest. God, I cannot discuss with someone so dellusional. Terrans you mentioned are 2 class above many protoss players qualified, you can't say state of the game is ok. And I am saying this as Protoss player.


?

He is right. Clem, MlorD and uThermal were already in. Heromarine qualified. The only small diappointment was souL failing to qualify but EU qualifiers are really hard. Zerg struggles with the diversity of Protoss currently but "IMBA IMBA" is not gonna solve anything.

That is a very weird thing for someone whos been through gomtvt and broodlord era to say. Blizzard inaction in patching out obvious balance issues was what cost the game a lot of players in the first place. Now presenting a unified front, for once, is exactly what might solve this current state.
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
June 09 2019 16:34 GMT
#17
No WCS challenger threads?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
June 09 2019 17:30 GMT
#18
This one will do

pretty epic TvP series this winners' match
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4746 Posts
June 09 2019 17:31 GMT
#19
Yeah last game was very good.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 09 2019 17:32 GMT
#20
Showtime threw that 3rd base engagement so hard I have no clue how he managed to win that
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 09 2019 17:32 GMT
#21
Heromarine had double the army supply but still lost. Ouch
Soulbringer-
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany9 Posts
June 09 2019 17:33 GMT
#22
well all his units were red already.. was a big mistake to keep fighting there.. too impatient
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-09 17:39:33
June 09 2019 17:36 GMT
#23
On June 10 2019 02:33 Soulbringer- wrote:
well all his units were red already.. was a big mistake to keep fighting there.. too impatient

I didn't catch the whole game but I don't think he really needed to pull the boys either. Showtime through all his colossi away at his 3rd as well as most of his army. HeroMarine* could have probably killed both the 3rd and 4th without going allin there.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
June 09 2019 17:38 GMT
#24
On June 10 2019 02:36 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2019 02:33 Soulbringer- wrote:
well all his units were red already.. was a big mistake to keep fighting there.. too impatient

I didn't catch the whole game but I don't think he really needed to pull the boys either. Showtime through all his colossi away at his 3rd as well as most of his army. MarineLord could have probably killed both the 3rd and 4th without going allin there.

*heromarine

I know, there's so many of 'm
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
June 09 2019 17:41 GMT
#25
Protoss has way too many tricks now. That recall on series 1 when the whole army was out of positioned just feels far far too forgiving.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 09 2019 17:49 GMT
#26
So far Heromarine vs Marinelord looks like HotS PvP.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
June 09 2019 18:29 GMT
#27
On June 10 2019 02:41 ETisME wrote:
Protoss has way too many tricks now. That recall on series 1 when the whole army was out of positioned just feels far far too forgiving.


I agree overall but on that particular game, the libe not sieging was a very bad thing, otherwise he would probably have won the game.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 09 2019 20:00 GMT
#28
im hijacking this thread for the god given gift that wcs america is
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 09 2019 20:05 GMT
#29
I like how Nathanias praises JonSnow only for him to follow up with slowly losing the game to Terran poke.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 09 2019 20:14 GMT
#30
35 drones nuke absolute unit of a ghost
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 09 2019 20:14 GMT
#31
On June 10 2019 05:00 Ej_ wrote:
im hijacking this thread for the god given gift that wcs america is


Astrea Sottorks game 1 was a wonderfull display of what happen when two NA players try to play a macro game.

Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55569 Posts
June 09 2019 20:14 GMT
#32
On June 10 2019 05:00 Ej_ wrote:
im hijacking this thread for the god given gift that wcs america is

The god given gift of a 35 drone kill nuke
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 09 2019 20:15 GMT
#33
N(A)uke
Zerg for Life
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 09 2019 20:18 GMT
#34
drunkenboi is playing like he wants Nova to spawn
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55569 Posts
June 09 2019 20:24 GMT
#35
There's no greater late game than NA late game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 09 2019 20:34 GMT
#36
Damn, the casters are excessively low energy...
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
June 09 2019 20:36 GMT
#37
Wow what in the world was this game? :D I mean it was sure exciting, but only because both players were so bad lol
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55569 Posts
June 09 2019 20:38 GMT
#38
On June 10 2019 05:36 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Wow what in the world was this game? :D I mean it was sure exciting, but only because both players were so bad lol

Welcome to WCS NA, we're not here for the quality.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 09 2019 20:44 GMT
#39
Man watching Naruto cast WCS NA on TakeTV is really the best.

ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-09 20:47:34
June 09 2019 20:47 GMT
#40
On June 10 2019 05:36 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Wow what in the world was this game? :D I mean it was sure exciting, but only because both players were so bad lol


It was less perplexing than Maru vs Scarlett on the same map at least. That's something.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55569 Posts
June 09 2019 20:49 GMT
#41
On June 10 2019 05:44 HolydaKing wrote:
Man watching Naruto cast WCS NA on TakeTV is really the best.

https://twitter.com/NarutOSC2/status/1137820410840604672

Neeb is so good and Scarlett has had so many great moments over the years but then the drop-off is surreal. Especially since the 3rd power SpeCial plays Copa and not NA.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55569 Posts
June 09 2019 20:50 GMT
#42
On June 10 2019 05:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2019 05:36 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Wow what in the world was this game? :D I mean it was sure exciting, but only because both players were so bad lol


It was less perplexing than Maru vs Scarlett on the same map at least. That's something.

Well, there was not ever a moment where Drunkenboi forgot his buildings could fly. So at least in that aspect he's ascertained superiority over Maru.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 09 2019 21:15 GMT
#43
DrunkenBoi did legitimately steal his ID from his brother, so Incontrol's caster instinct is on point.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 15 2019 18:17 GMT
#44
bumping this.

really great last game between lambo and clem, shame that he loses though while being 3-2 vs lambo
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 15 2019 18:20 GMT
#45
rofl this is amazing by crucial nug
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 15 2019 18:23 GMT
#46
NA delivering again, even without a proper LR thread
Year of MaxPax
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-15 19:06:50
June 15 2019 19:05 GMT
#47
Finally a decent game because both players are about the same level. Neeb vs CrucialNug was just a smackdown.

Also agreed Lambo vs Clem was amazing, feeling sad for Clem. Tough group, he played well.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-15 19:12:52
June 15 2019 19:12 GMT
#48
The rematch curse needs to be taken out behind the woodshed and be shot Old Yeller style. If the decider match is a rematch, it should be a best of 5 starting with the score of the previous series and the maps from the previous series vetoed. Or a best of 5 with the winner of the first series with a one game advantage.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-15 19:29:29
June 15 2019 19:17 GMT
#49
On June 16 2019 04:05 HolydaKing wrote:
Finally a decent game because both players are about the same level. Neeb vs CrucialNug was just a smackdown.


Fun fact, Neeb won over 10 000 time more prize money than CrucialNug

Well actually after today it won't be more tha 1000 time, so if he keep this up 4-5 tournament more and he should pass Neeb
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-15 19:42:53
June 15 2019 19:42 GMT
#50
Watching TakeTV on WCS NA is again so very, very fun.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
June 15 2019 20:11 GMT
#51
It was glorious
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 16 2019 19:55 GMT
#52
The breaks on WCS NA...
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-17 01:20:19
June 17 2019 01:19 GMT
#53
In NA and EU, 6 Terran, 6 Zerg, and only 4 Protoss made it through to the playoffs. The top 8 of WCS Circuit standings has a total of 1 Protoss.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-17 01:29:26
June 17 2019 01:29 GMT
#54
On June 17 2019 10:19 Boggyb wrote:
In NA and EU, 6 Terran, 6 Zerg, and only 4 Protoss made it through to the playoffs. The top 8 of WCS Circuit standings has a total of 1 Protoss.


I think Showtime is going to catch up, eventually.
Foreign Protoss probably aren't aggressive enough, but if the they were a truly broken race we would see them win outside of Korea as well.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7139 Posts
June 17 2019 10:50 GMT
#55
Foreign Protoss don't abuse their race enough. Also the difference between what Trap does with 2 Immos and WP and what foreigners do is just an entirely different galaxy
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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