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[IEM XIII] Katowice 2019 - Championship Sunday - Page 21

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 03 2019 12:22 GMT
#401
On March 03 2019 21:21 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:19 Anc13nt wrote:
Also worth noting that Stats' aligulac rank is #16. Online Stats is like mid-tier Korean level while offline Stats is completely different beast.

Not to mention he was struggling to get 6.7k on KR ladder just before this tournament

Meanwhile all the 7k Terrans out in the group stage.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
March 03 2019 12:23 GMT
#402
soO can win
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
March 03 2019 12:23 GMT
#403
On March 03 2019 21:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:15 Parrek wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:14 Penev wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:12 Nakajin wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:09 Penev wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:09 Charoisaur wrote:
I don't see soO winning against this

same


soO always gets the shitiest of match up in finals

Gumi-INno that always beat him everywhere, on fire Zest-Dear, Rogue as the only zerg he can't beat in zvz, Classic when he was the only toss he couldn't beat in GSL....

turns out that soO is a really strong player but he's never quite the strongest which makes it hard to win tournaments

he defeated himself in more than a few of those finals though

You don't make finals that often if you aren't the best. I agree that's it's more of a mental block for soO than any real problem in skill.

In how many of those finals would you have put soO as the favorite before the games? Most of his final opponents were on an absolute tear when he faced them. The only ones he may have been favored against are Classic, Gumiho and ofc Solar in that IEM.


After how many finals would the talk move from "He's favored to win this one" to "This is finals soO. Maybe he can do it this time!
Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
March 03 2019 12:23 GMT
#404
Stats is 7.2 k offline
Stats, Dark, Maru <3
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 03 2019 12:24 GMT
#405
On March 03 2019 21:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:15 Parrek wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:14 Penev wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:12 Nakajin wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:09 Penev wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:09 Charoisaur wrote:
I don't see soO winning against this

same


soO always gets the shitiest of match up in finals

Gumi-INno that always beat him everywhere, on fire Zest-Dear, Rogue as the only zerg he can't beat in zvz, Classic when he was the only toss he couldn't beat in GSL....

turns out that soO is a really strong player but he's never quite the strongest which makes it hard to win tournaments

he defeated himself in more than a few of those finals though

You don't make finals that often if you aren't the best. I agree that's it's more of a mental block for soO than any real problem in skill.

In how many of those finals would you have put soO as the favorite before the games? Most of his final opponents were on an absolute tear when he faced them. The only ones he may have been favored against are Classic, Gumiho and ofc Solar in that IEM.


Classic won vs soO in group stage of the GSL he won and Gumiho always had soO number online. Solar was the only one where he was an overwhelming favorite.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
March 03 2019 12:24 GMT
#406
god after witnessing soO's confidence increasing during this tourney to see it all crash down again :f
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 12:25:13
March 03 2019 12:24 GMT
#407
fairly sloppy control by Stats in game 2 and 3, but excellent game-sense and strategic thinking. It kinda sends the message that it's more important to know what to do rather than how well can you execute it.

Mad props for Dark, he really almost made it in those 2 games!

Now, unto the grand finals, let s keep the meme alive!
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 03 2019 12:24 GMT
#408
On March 03 2019 21:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:15 Parrek wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:14 Penev wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:12 Nakajin wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:09 Penev wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:09 Charoisaur wrote:
I don't see soO winning against this

same


soO always gets the shitiest of match up in finals

Gumi-INno that always beat him everywhere, on fire Zest-Dear, Rogue as the only zerg he can't beat in zvz, Classic when he was the only toss he couldn't beat in GSL....

turns out that soO is a really strong player but he's never quite the strongest which makes it hard to win tournaments

he defeated himself in more than a few of those finals though

You don't make finals that often if you aren't the best. I agree that's it's more of a mental block for soO than any real problem in skill.

In how many of those finals would you have put soO as the favorite before the games? Most of his final opponents were on an absolute tear when he faced them. The only ones he may have been favored against are Classic, Gumiho and ofc Solar in that IEM.

It was a Dreamhack (not that it makes any difference).
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 12:25:56
March 03 2019 12:25 GMT
#409
On March 03 2019 21:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:21 yht9657 wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:19 Anc13nt wrote:
Also worth noting that Stats' aligulac rank is #16. Online Stats is like mid-tier Korean level while offline Stats is completely different beast.

Not to mention he was struggling to get 6.7k on KR ladder just before this tournament

Meanwhile all the 7k Terrans out in the group stage.

So you mean only terrans need to practice that hard for no results?
WriterMaru
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 03 2019 12:26 GMT
#410
On March 03 2019 21:25 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:22 Elentos wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:21 yht9657 wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:19 Anc13nt wrote:
Also worth noting that Stats' aligulac rank is #16. Online Stats is like mid-tier Korean level while offline Stats is completely different beast.

Not to mention he was struggling to get 6.7k on KR ladder just before this tournament

Meanwhile all the 7k Terrans out in the group stage.

So you mean only terrans need to practice that hard for no results?

Terrans are just practice bonjwas, like Hush
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
March 03 2019 12:26 GMT
#411
good thing is, no stats at WESG.
I like Dark
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
March 03 2019 12:27 GMT
#412
On March 03 2019 21:25 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:22 Elentos wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:21 yht9657 wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:19 Anc13nt wrote:
Also worth noting that Stats' aligulac rank is #16. Online Stats is like mid-tier Korean level while offline Stats is completely different beast.

Not to mention he was struggling to get 6.7k on KR ladder just before this tournament

Meanwhile all the 7k Terrans out in the group stage.

So you mean only terrans need to practice that hard for no results?

I don't get how you got that from it.

Obviously everybody practiced like hell buuut the best still come out on top (according to the meta and maps ofc)
this is a quote
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 12:28:34
March 03 2019 12:27 GMT
#413
Stream down for anyone else?

nvm its back now
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
March 03 2019 12:28 GMT
#414
On March 03 2019 21:26 ShAd_1337 wrote:
good thing is, no stats at WESG.

Stats can never win a tournament with only online qualifiers.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
March 03 2019 12:28 GMT
#415
On March 03 2019 21:27 Brutaxilos wrote:
Stream down for anyone else?

not for me
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
March 03 2019 12:29 GMT
#416
On March 03 2019 21:28 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:26 ShAd_1337 wrote:
good thing is, no stats at WESG.

Stats can never win a tournament with only online qualifiers.

why is he so medicore online, doesn't make sense
I like Dark
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
March 03 2019 12:30 GMT
#417
On March 03 2019 21:29 ShAd_1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:28 yht9657 wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:26 ShAd_1337 wrote:
good thing is, no stats at WESG.

Stats can never win a tournament with only online qualifiers.

why is he so medicore online, doesn't make sense

he seems one of those who needs a kick in the nuts to wake up often

a bit like grubby was
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16044 Posts
March 03 2019 12:30 GMT
#418
On March 03 2019 21:29 ShAd_1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:28 yht9657 wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:26 ShAd_1337 wrote:
good thing is, no stats at WESG.

Stats can never win a tournament with only online qualifiers.

why is he so medicore online, doesn't make sense

he just performs better in offline tournaments when the pressure is on him. That has always been the case, it's also why he was never used as KT's ace because he wasn't doing that well in practice.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-03 12:31:53
March 03 2019 12:31 GMT
#419
On March 03 2019 21:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2019 21:15 Parrek wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:14 Penev wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:12 Nakajin wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:09 Penev wrote:
On March 03 2019 21:09 Charoisaur wrote:
I don't see soO winning against this

same


soO always gets the shitiest of match up in finals

Gumi-INno that always beat him everywhere, on fire Zest-Dear, Rogue as the only zerg he can't beat in zvz, Classic when he was the only toss he couldn't beat in GSL....

turns out that soO is a really strong player but he's never quite the strongest which makes it hard to win tournaments

he defeated himself in more than a few of those finals though

You don't make finals that often if you aren't the best. I agree that's it's more of a mental block for soO than any real problem in skill.

In how many of those finals would you have put soO as the favorite before the games? Most of his final opponents were on an absolute tear when he faced them. The only ones he may have been favored against are Classic, Gumiho and ofc Solar in that IEM.

Zest, Classic, Stats, Solar, Gumiho he was favoured against.

The only ones he wasn't were Dear, and INno. Even against Rogue it was even imo

Edit: and many of the finals he messed up big tim/choked big time
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
March 03 2019 12:32 GMT
#420
i don't expect a close finals at all. 4-1 , 4-2 at best
I like Dark
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