Gonna keep an eye on Mana-Fanta, sOs-Cure, Keen-Clem/Heromarine to start the first bracket and Showtime-Stephano/Harstem, Scarlett-herO and Trap-aLive in the second one. I hope there is plenty of stream
bracket1 i literally don't feel confident with any prediction but i'd go sos, fantasy, keen
bracket2 ill go showtime scarlett trap, but the top half of that bracket makes me sad because i'd love to see scarlett, showtime, stephano all go through
On February 25 2019 01:45 travis wrote: geesh these are tough to predict
bracket1 i literally don't feel confident with any prediction but i'd go sos, fantasy, keen
bracket2 ill go showtime scarlett trap, but the top half of that bracket makes me sad because i'd love to see scarlett, showtime, stephano all go through
Yup. This is going to be an awesome day and a really sad day. Plenty of top players are going to be going out early.
Unless KeeN secretly has good enough TvP to beat Dear and decided not to show it when going 0-4 against Dear and Trust in his GSL group to start the month, I have a hard time seeing him get out of the group because I would say he'd be a pretty significant underdog to either Cure or FanTaSy as his TvT results over the past year are basically limited to repeatedly beating aLive and generally losing to anyone else with a pulse.
I am going to do a "certain, likely, unlikely but possible" ranking, because I think that's the best and most useful way to make predictions.
Bracket One Certain: Dear. His bracket is pretty easy. Likely: sOs, Cure. Unlikely but Possible: Leenock, Keen, Heromarine, Fantasy, Mana
Bracket Two Certain: No one. Anyone could conceivably get taken out twice. Likely: Trap, Showtime, aLive, herO, Unlikely but Possible:Scarlett, other foreigners.
No chance I'm going to be up for the Bracket 1, but I'm stoked for the second. Feels good to have IEM kick into gear tomorrow. I even prepared and have popcorn in the microwave ready for breakfast. + Show Spoiler +
Mostly because I forgot to get cereal at the store, but hey, popcorn and SC is just as good.
Crossing my fingers for a few good Snute and TLO games to watch later.
On February 25 2019 04:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: I'm just going to call it now. sOs wins the entire tournament and redeems himself as $0$
at some point Maru vs Serral does happen though
only if he somehow manages to avoid all the good zerg players
idk, I think of PvZ as being sOs' worst but also the one we see him the least in. The only Zerg here who's consistently had his number throughout his career is soO. He probably can't beat Serral either. He should be fine against every other Zerg in attendance though.
It would be EPIC to see Serral vs Maru in grand final. Or even Serral vs Stats again. As my brood i keep my fingers crossed for pl stuff ( Elazer/Mana/Nerchio/Soul/Art/Geralt/Ziggy), but nowadays and after last balance Re:Generation shows it will be a slaughter for non-Korean players. Good Luck & Have Fun mates ...
I wish we had more tournaments like IEM. It has the same type of lustre as the WoL MLG days with tournament lives on from the start and super competitive brackets. Hoping for some great games and fingers crossed that FanTaSy makes it out!
On February 25 2019 18:32 Pandain wrote: Big questions: 1. Will stats still be in a slump? 2. Can alive recapture the magic from his last run here? 3. Do foreigners still suck?
Also excited for some demu casting.
Did you really need to be so incredibly disrespectful? I'd assume you woke up in 2014... Foreigners are legit, not even mentioning who is the best player around at the moment.
On February 25 2019 19:49 JustPassingBy wrote: The amount of downtime (i.e., time spent outside of games) is disappointing. We're missing out of so many great games!
There are multiple channels casting, these in English:
On February 25 2019 19:49 JustPassingBy wrote: The amount of downtime (i.e., time spent outside of games) is disappointing. We're missing out of so many great games!
There are multiple channels casting, these in English:
yeah but many of them cast the same games (mana v fantasy was on half of the streams, and no one casted sOs vs Awers, Dear vs Brat_OK, or RagnaroK vs Snute)
On February 25 2019 19:49 JustPassingBy wrote: The amount of downtime (i.e., time spent outside of games) is disappointing. We're missing out of so many great games!
There are multiple channels casting, these in English:
not to suprising. i felt in GSL his ill-faded cheeses against scarlett overshadowed his reasonable performance against Maru. he's better then most people think right now.
not to suprising. i felt in GSL his ill-faded cheeses against scarlett overshadowed his reasonable performance against Maru. he's better then most people think right now.
i hope he qualifies to ro24. he has entertaining games and he's beaten maru on ladder before. maybe his 0-4 GSL round motivates him to prove himself offline
namshar so shaky vs sOs. gets hard supply blocked at 36/36 and forgets to cancel his extractor after trying to save his drone. hope he gets it together
On February 25 2019 21:18 herwo wrote: namshar so shaky vs sOs. gets hard supply blocked at 36/36 and forgets to cancel his extractor after trying to save his drone. hope he gets it together
Hi good fellow, could you tell me where you are watching sOs vs namshar so that i might do the same?
On February 25 2019 21:18 herwo wrote: namshar so shaky vs sOs. gets hard supply blocked at 36/36 and forgets to cancel his extractor after trying to save his drone. hope he gets it together
Hi good fellow, could you tell me where you are watching sOs vs namshar so that i might do the same?
On February 25 2019 21:18 herwo wrote: namshar so shaky vs sOs. gets hard supply blocked at 36/36 and forgets to cancel his extractor after trying to save his drone. hope he gets it together
Hi good fellow, could you tell me where you are watching sOs vs namshar so that i might do the same?
It's on the B stream.
You can quickly cycle through the streams if you look on the right side of this page
On February 25 2019 21:18 herwo wrote: namshar so shaky vs sOs. gets hard supply blocked at 36/36 and forgets to cancel his extractor after trying to save his drone. hope he gets it together
Hi good fellow, could you tell me where you are watching sOs vs namshar so that i might do the same?
On February 25 2019 21:18 herwo wrote: namshar so shaky vs sOs. gets hard supply blocked at 36/36 and forgets to cancel his extractor after trying to save his drone. hope he gets it together
Hi good fellow, could you tell me where you are watching sOs vs namshar so that i might do the same?
It's on the B stream.
You can quickly cycle through the streams if you look on the right side of this page
Fantasy flying all the way to Katowice to get Protossed out of the tournament is a sad state of affairs.
I don't think he has the time to get to the skill level necessary to make a living as a pro SC2 terran... he should go back to SC1 or retire or switch to Protoss or something
On February 25 2019 21:43 sertman wrote: Fantasy flying all the way to Katowice to get Protossed out of the tournament is a sad state of affairs.
I don't think he has the time to get to the skill level necessary to make a living as a pro SC2 terran... he should go back to SC1 or retire or switch to Protoss or something
He's become much much better in only some months of practice. Pretty sure that if he keeps going like this he should become a GSL Ro16 regular.
On February 25 2019 21:48 Harris1st wrote: Mad props to the guys doing the LP results. You guys are awesome. Can't really watch live here at work but I'm F5'ing the shit out of the LP page <3
On February 25 2019 22:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Got into this Keen/Ragnarok game halfway through, but it looked quite good. Any other games I should go back and watch?
To IEM Technical Service Stuff: pls check and change refresh rate in your monitors, some of them work in under 60Hz (f.e. ragnarok monitor, ragnarok vs keen). It is easy to recognize, when streaming camera shows participant's device (blinking). CeZ
On February 25 2019 22:36 DieuCure wrote: How can it be the weakest rofl.
Bracket 2 is the biggest joke imo.
I exaggerated, it's not "by far" the weakest. Bracket 2 seems a joke to you because there are too few koreans? Trap and herO are still pretty good and top foreigners like ShowTime and Scarlett are arguably better than non top koreans like Ragnarok(who played very good and advanced deservingly), Keen, Leenock et cetera.
On February 25 2019 22:36 DieuCure wrote: How can it be the weakest rofl.
Bracket 2 is the biggest joke imo.
I exaggerated, it's not "by far" the weakest. Bracket 2 seems a joke to you because there are too few koreans? Trap and herO are still pretty good and top foreigners like ShowTime and Scarlett are arguably better than non top koreans like Ragnarok(who played very good and advanced deservingly), Keen, Leenock et cetera.
DIdn't Ragnarok eliminate Scarlett in GSL very recently? edit: oh it's the other way around
On February 25 2019 22:36 DieuCure wrote: How can it be the weakest rofl.
Bracket 2 is the biggest joke imo.
I exaggerated, it's not "by far" the weakest. Bracket 2 seems a joke to you because there are too few koreans? Trap and herO are still pretty good and top foreigners like ShowTime and Scarlett are arguably better than non top koreans like Ragnarok(who played very good and advanced deservingly), Keen, Leenock et cetera.
DIdn't Ragnarok eliminate Scarlett in GSL very recently? edit: oh it's the other way around
On February 25 2019 22:36 DieuCure wrote: How can it be the weakest rofl.
Bracket 2 is the biggest joke imo.
I exaggerated, it's not "by far" the weakest. Bracket 2 seems a joke to you because there are too few koreans? Trap and herO are still pretty good and top foreigners like ShowTime and Scarlett are arguably better than non top koreans like Ragnarok(who played very good and advanced deservingly), Keen, Leenock et cetera.
DIdn't Ragnarok eliminate Scarlett in GSL very recently? edit: oh it's the other way around
On February 25 2019 22:02 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Got into this Keen/Ragnarok game halfway through, but it looked quite good. Any other games I should go back and watch?
Yes, definitely KeeN v HeroMarine g2
That was a phenomenal game. Thanks for the recommendation.
On February 25 2019 22:36 DieuCure wrote: How can it be the weakest rofl.
Bracket 2 is the biggest joke imo.
I exaggerated, it's not "by far" the weakest. Bracket 2 seems a joke to you because there are too few koreans? Trap and herO are still pretty good and top foreigners like ShowTime and Scarlett are arguably better than non top koreans like Ragnarok(who played very good and advanced deservingly), Keen, Leenock et cetera.
DIdn't Ragnarok eliminate Scarlett in GSL very recently? edit: oh it's the other way around
On February 25 2019 23:06 Heartland wrote: I really don't get what sOs gains by getting his first gate and his core in his main
Edit: I meant main
i guess less likely to lose his core during a push to his natural, and it doesn't allow the overlord to scout the warpgate research timing to know if it's sg opening
So many pro terrans just let the ravens/libs fly in front of everything and die. The only one I see who regularly move commands them onto the bio is INno
On February 25 2019 23:11 Fango wrote: So many pro terrans just let the ravens/libs fly in front of everything and die. The only one I see who regularly move commands them onto the bio is INno
I do that too - am I now better than those pro terrans?
On February 25 2019 23:15 Pandain wrote: I can't wait for Stephano Harstem. Two top foreigners who play looooots of customs with each other. Gonna be good series.
Shouldnt top foreigners be in group stage 3 of WCS Winter EU ?
On February 25 2019 23:15 Pandain wrote: I can't wait for Stephano Harstem. Two top foreigners who play looooots of customs with each other. Gonna be good series.
Shouldnt top foreigners be in group stage 3 of WCS Winter EU ?
To be fair, we didn’t really get a good gauge of Ragnarok’s strength in GSL because he immediately hit Maru, who is on another level of Terran than Keen, and we never saw his ZvP.
Thanks for the list. Missed a few of these due to stupid worthless RL
To be more specific: Heromarine-Keen game 2 Stephano Harstem Game 3 Heromarine-Cure (all games) sos dear (first game, 2nd is good though) Namshar Cure (second game) Ragnarok Keen (both games)
Thanks for the list. Missed a few of these due to stupid worthless RL
To be more specific: Heromarine-Keen game 2 Stephano Harstem Game 3 Heromarine-Cure (all games) sos dear (first game, 2nd is good though) Namshar Cure (second game) Ragnarok Keen (both games)
On February 26 2019 01:07 GoloSC2 wrote: worried for showtime, saw him losing vs stephano quite a bit on his stream
Yeah, it will be a close series.
Might be a little controversial but I wish they would have showed other games on the main stream. Even though it's a qualifying match, I feel like other games being played now on Bracket 2 would be more hyped.
I'd be okay with games -> interview -> break rinse and repeat...they did that the first time iirc, and the rest have been games -> break -> interview -> break...it's a bit excessive to say the least.
On February 26 2019 01:17 mierin wrote: I'd be okay with games -> interview -> break rinse and repeat...they did that the first time iirc, and the rest have been games -> break -> interview -> break...it's a bit excessive to say the least.
Or game - break - interview - game, if they need the break to set up.
On February 26 2019 01:17 mierin wrote: I'd be okay with games -> interview -> break rinse and repeat...they did that the first time iirc, and the rest have been games -> break -> interview -> break...it's a bit excessive to say the least.
Yeah it's been the standard for any non-KR tournament for many years now. I agree it sucks though
On February 26 2019 01:34 Soke wrote: Scarlett 2-1 herO for her first ever win against him. Seemed like a matter of time after nearly killing him twice in GSL but GGs!
On February 26 2019 01:36 Uberfather wrote: damn im missing all the games today... was scarlett vs hero a good series?
Three cheeses. Scarlett ling roach all in g1, herO cannon rush into proxy immo/warp prism g2 (Scarlett responded by proxy hatching but to no avail), and another roach ling all in g3
On February 26 2019 01:36 Uberfather wrote: damn im missing all the games today... was scarlett vs hero a good series?
Three cheeses. Scarlett ling roach all in g1, herO cannon rush into proxy immo/warp prism g2 (Scarlett responded by proxy hatching but to no avail), and another roach ling all in g3
No. Scarlett rushed nydus with lings and queens in game 1 vs herO. In game 2 herO cannon rushed in response to Scarlett's cheese in form of proxy hatchery at herO's natural. Game 3 was roach ling cheese.
On February 26 2019 02:28 Musicus wrote: I love how Bly has been meming himself through high level tournaments since 2010 and still finds success with it 9 years later .
On February 26 2019 02:28 Musicus wrote: I love how Bly has been meming himself through high level tournaments since 2010 and still finds success with it 9 years later .
On February 26 2019 02:28 Musicus wrote: I love how Bly has been meming himself through high level tournaments since 2010 and still finds success with it 9 years later .
On February 26 2019 02:28 Musicus wrote: I love how Bly has been meming himself through high level tournaments since 2010 and still finds success with it 9 years later .
Bly is one of a kind, a 30 years old married man who played twice the number of competitive game of everyone in the world and cheese every game
On February 26 2019 02:28 Musicus wrote: I love how Bly has been meming himself through high level tournaments since 2010 and still finds success with it 9 years later .
The zerg Has?
If Bly finds a way to lose this game then I'll allow the comparison
On February 26 2019 02:28 Musicus wrote: I love how Bly has been meming himself through high level tournaments since 2010 and still finds success with it 9 years later .
Bly is one of a kind, a 30 years old married man who played twice the number of competitive game of everyone in the world and cheese every game
On February 26 2019 02:28 Musicus wrote: I love how Bly has been meming himself through high level tournaments since 2010 and still finds success with it 9 years later .
Bly is one of a kind, a 30 years old married man who played twice the number of competitive game of everyone in the world and cheese every game
On February 26 2019 02:28 Musicus wrote: I love how Bly has been meming himself through high level tournaments since 2010 and still finds success with it 9 years later .
The zerg Has?
If Bly finds a way to lose this game then I'll allow the comparison
On February 26 2019 02:28 Musicus wrote: I love how Bly has been meming himself through high level tournaments since 2010 and still finds success with it 9 years later .
The zerg Has?
If Bly finds a way to lose this game then I'll allow the comparison
I'm amazed that Trap lasted that long considering he had under half of the Z supply and almost no workers in the early game. 15 min game out of a 5 min gg
On February 26 2019 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Bly confirmed not worthy of being compared to Has. Even if he had lost this game, it would have been a lesser throw than Has vs Maru or Has vs Dark.
On February 26 2019 02:28 Musicus wrote: I love how Bly has been meming himself through high level tournaments since 2010 and still finds success with it 9 years later .
The zerg Has?
If Bly finds a way to lose this game then I'll allow the comparison
This will mean so much coming from an expert
Ah, so close :/
Yes Clearly he does not understand the merits of ROACH ROACH ROACH
On February 26 2019 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Bly confirmed not worthy of being compared to Has. Even if he had lost this game, it would have been a lesser throw than Has vs Maru or Has vs Dark.
Has vs Maru throw were insane, dreadful.
can somebody link the vod, I actually can't remember it right now
On February 26 2019 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Bly confirmed not worthy of being compared to Has. Even if he had lost this game, it would have been a lesser throw than Has vs Maru or Has vs Dark.
Has vs Maru throw were insane, dreadful.
can somebody link the vod, I actually can't remember it right now
Has was on 6 base to 3 (2 for the longest time) on Vaani Research Station and didn't think to tech past blink stalkers for the longest time. Eventually he decided to go into colossi but he blinked like 25 stalkers into Maru's main and lost them all for free before his transition was done so he died to the counter attack.
On February 26 2019 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Bly confirmed not worthy of being compared to Has. Even if he had lost this game, it would have been a lesser throw than Has vs Maru or Has vs Dark.
Has vs Maru throw were insane, dreadful.
can somebody link the vod, I actually can't remember it right now
On February 26 2019 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Bly confirmed not worthy of being compared to Has. Even if he had lost this game, it would have been a lesser throw than Has vs Maru or Has vs Dark.
Has vs Maru throw were insane, dreadful.
can somebody link the vod, I actually can't remember it right now
On February 26 2019 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Bly confirmed not worthy of being compared to Has. Even if he had lost this game, it would have been a lesser throw than Has vs Maru or Has vs Dark.
Has vs Maru throw were insane, dreadful.
can somebody link the vod, I actually can't remember it right now
Has was on 6 base to 3 (2 for the longest time) on Vaani Research Station and didn't think to tech past blink stalkers for the longest time. Eventually he decided to go into colossi but he blinked like 25 stalkers into Maru's main and lost them all for free before his transition was done so he died to the counter attack.
Oh thanks guys, IEM Gyeonggi, I remember. That was insane.
On February 26 2019 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Bly confirmed not worthy of being compared to Has. Even if he had lost this game, it would have been a lesser throw than Has vs Maru or Has vs Dark.
Has vs Maru throw were insane, dreadful.
can somebody link the vod, I actually can't remember it right now
On February 26 2019 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Bly confirmed not worthy of being compared to Has. Even if he had lost this game, it would have been a lesser throw than Has vs Maru or Has vs Dark.
Has vs Maru throw were insane, dreadful.
can somebody link the vod, I actually can't remember it right now
Has was on 6 base to 3 (2 for the longest time) on Vaani Research Station and didn't think to tech past blink stalkers for the longest time. Eventually he decided to go into colossi but he blinked like 25 stalkers into Maru's main and lost them all for free before his transition was done so he died to the counter attack.
Oh thanks guys, IEM Gyeonggi, I remember. That was insane.
Just after the first true TvT post patch tank, TY vs Maru, insane too !
On February 26 2019 02:39 Waxangel wrote: Bly confirmed not worthy of being compared to Has. Even if he had lost this game, it would have been a lesser throw than Has vs Maru or Has vs Dark.
Has vs Maru throw were insane, dreadful.
he also had a pretty huge throw vs Dark at Blizzcon
They need to stop inviting a list of observers* to each game that are playing on shit laptops, the game engine only runs as fast as the slowest PC (if one player/obs can't simulate a tick in time, the game time literally stops until they do) and they've had constant issues with it since i started watching hours ago.
*saw it once on ZG stream before one of them problematic games and they had like 7 people in a 1v1 game
How many players have to pause games in the middle of a fight to complain about it before they take note?
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
Hitbox yeah. Somehow when platforms have to pay people to stream on their site, the always dissolve a year later.
You kinda have to pay people to start out. Especially for streaming, you have to give reasons for the people to move over so you can actually develop a sustainable ecosystem. It usually fails. In terms of video hosting, I think it'd be a bit easier because youtubers are already trying to find ways to escape youtube
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
What did the finals peak at last year?
57k. We should smash that, but it's hard to predict considering the sheer hype of the Katowice Major in CSGO. Heck, I'll be watching Liquid during that myself.
On February 26 2019 03:36 travis wrote: Don't forget that we can thank activision-blizzard for high latency competitions
Well, WCS Winter NA had nowhere near this much lag and it was online competition with players halfway across the world from each other.
Most likely the game stuttering and slowdown is caused by the observers running on slow PC's. The game can only run as smoothly and fast as the slowest hardware in the game, even in an observer position.
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
What did the finals peak at last year?
57k. We should smash that, but it's hard to predict considering the sheer hype of the Katowice Major in CSGO. Heck, I'll be watching Liquid during that myself.
It was a Zvp finals last year, and a rough 4-0, we should smash it easily, even more with a TvZ
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
What did the finals peak at last year?
57k. We should smash that, but it's hard to predict considering the sheer hype of the Katowice Major in CSGO. Heck, I'll be watching Liquid during that myself.
It was a Zvp finals last year, and a rough 4-0, we should smash it easily, even more with a TvZ
Then we just need TY in the grand finals to show everybody the best that starcraft can be
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
What did the finals peak at last year?
57k. We should smash that, but it's hard to predict considering the sheer hype of the Katowice Major in CSGO. Heck, I'll be watching Liquid during that myself.
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
What did the finals peak at last year?
57k. We should smash that, but it's hard to predict considering the sheer hype of the Katowice Major in CSGO. Heck, I'll be watching Liquid during that myself.
Yeah a decent number of csgo fans will be checking the stream during the finals.
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
What did the finals peak at last year?
57k. We should smash that, but it's hard to predict considering the sheer hype of the Katowice Major in CSGO. Heck, I'll be watching Liquid during that myself.
It was a Zvp finals last year, and a rough 4-0, we should smash it easily, even more with a TvZ
Then we just need TY in the grand finals to show everybody the best that starcraft can be
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
What did the finals peak at last year?
57k. We should smash that, but it's hard to predict considering the sheer hype of the Katowice Major in CSGO. Heck, I'll be watching Liquid during that myself.
No overlap, CS final is after SC2
CSGO major final is a big deal, a lot of people will be checking the sc2 final to see when it will start.
Granted they aren't real fans, but I'd expect the views to go up anyway
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
What did the finals peak at last year?
57k. We should smash that, but it's hard to predict considering the sheer hype of the Katowice Major in CSGO. Heck, I'll be watching Liquid during that myself.
No overlap, CS final is after SC2
CSGO major final is a big deal, a lot of people will be checking the sc2 final to see when it will start.
Granted they aren't real fans, but I'd expect the views to go up anyway
It is not on the same stream though. ESL might host the SC2 stream who knows.
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
What did the finals peak at last year?
57k. We should smash that, but it's hard to predict considering the sheer hype of the Katowice Major in CSGO. Heck, I'll be watching Liquid during that myself.
It was a Zvp finals last year, and a rough 4-0, we should smash it easily, even more with a TvZ
Then we just need TY in the grand finals to show everybody the best that starcraft can be
zerg doom drops are cool, but a lot of games where they happen end up being "is protoss ready with a perfect army split? if yes, game continues. if no, gg" which is not really the most exciting thing as a viewer
On February 26 2019 03:45 Fango wrote: Are players allowed skins in this tournament then?
they are playing on a mod that makes the skins not show up for the players so blizzard can shove their horrible skins down our throats without affecting the players.
On February 26 2019 03:46 brickrd wrote: zerg doom drops are cool, but a lot of games where they happen end up being "is protoss ready with a perfect army split? if yes, game continues. if no, gg" which is not really the most exciting thing as a viewer
I think Showtime thought it was a fake for a second when the nydus pop at the third pull his army from the main
On February 26 2019 03:28 DieuCure wrote: 46K viewers, higher than last year i guess, really nice, thank you to everybody implied in it.
Last year peak was at 40k. Also the average viewer is higher than last year but it does not mean anything yet as last year was a 10 hours show while this one is at 8h30 atm.
What did the finals peak at last year?
57k. We should smash that, but it's hard to predict considering the sheer hype of the Katowice Major in CSGO. Heck, I'll be watching Liquid during that myself.
It was a Zvp finals last year, and a rough 4-0, we should smash it easily, even more with a TvZ
Then we just need TY in the grand finals to show everybody the best that starcraft can be
Imagine TYTY vs Maru/Serral, and TY wins
Important to be in a private setting before fantasizing about stuff like that!
On February 26 2019 03:46 brickrd wrote: zerg doom drops are cool, but a lot of games where they happen end up being "is protoss ready with a perfect army split? if yes, game continues. if no, gg" which is not really the most exciting thing as a viewer
I think Showtime thought it was a fake for a second when the nydus pop at the third pull his army from the main
it's almost like defending a cannon rush 10 minutes into the game except the pylons are nyduses and the cannons are hydras
On February 26 2019 03:46 brickrd wrote: zerg doom drops are cool, but a lot of games where they happen end up being "is protoss ready with a perfect army split? if yes, game continues. if no, gg" which is not really the most exciting thing as a viewer
I think Showtime thought it was a fake for a second when the nydus pop at the third pull his army from the main
it's almost like defending a cannon rush 10 minutes into the game except the pylons are nyduses and the cannons are hydras
On February 26 2019 03:48 Cyro wrote: Would be nice if they would moderate their chat a little too, 0mod twitch chat is cancerous
Twitch chat is always awful whenever Scarlett plays, its best to just ignore it.
They can at least limit the chat in some way (like sub or slowmode) if they don't want any mods to read the chat. If they do, ez 3 day bans on the people doing it bnet accounts linked for the loot
The nydus meta isn't exactly dominating but idk...it just feels bullshit
It influences every zvp, either there are a bunch of nydus's coming up or you have to play as if there will be. I think we'll see a ton more of them
On February 26 2019 03:52 Fango wrote: The nydus meta isn't exactly dominating but idk...it just feels bullshit
Oh yeah, they definitely over-buffed it, and considering the state of the ZvP otherwise, it's going to be used basically every game. A lot of games will be won or lost on the back of nydus play, which isn't exactly rewarding all the time, for either side.
Earlier they were putting some effort into moderating, bummer that they still don't do a great job when it's really needed but... I guess at least they tried a little bit for once. Maybe this year one org will finally figure it out.
On February 26 2019 04:46 IshinShishi wrote: can you even consider scarlett or special foreigners at this point? Foreign scene is down to Serral and Neeb fighting the swarms of koreans
On February 26 2019 04:41 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Except Serral and Scarlett the foreign sc2 scene looks pretty trash
On the other hand, your analysis is exquisite. ShoWTime isn't exactly sharp, lately, but there weren't really major upsets among foreigners' ranks today.
I mean PiG called him out and it went EXACTLY like he predicted.
Showtime looks good vs Terran and then just.... loses. It's inexplicable.
The only explanation I can even try and muster is that European Terrans are just THAT rare and THAT bad that he just never gets the practice that he should so that when he actually meets quality Terrans, Korean or otherwise he just doesn't have the honed practice to really know how to put them away.
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote: and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote: and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.
Alive was constantly controlling worse than herO towards the end I think.
On February 26 2019 05:29 brickrd wrote: i love watching terran lose scrappy games like that because i can feel the Nathanias bubbling in every terran's heart
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote: and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.
Alive was constantly controlling worse than herO towards the end I think.
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote: and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.
That applies to literally every race in this game
Really doesnt, you can do a whole macro cycle and come back to your zealots chasing terrified units :D
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
well to be fair a T army up two upgrades with equal tech (ghosts vs HTs) should indeed not lose
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
Upgrades are enormous for bio, lings, zealots etc. It's a massive uphill battle for all 3 races if you're fighting with those units while down multiple upgrades.
Rotti specifically mentioned gateway units because it was the P playing at the upgrade disadvantage but i see no reason to make it about racial balance.
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote: and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.
That applies to literally every race in this game
Really doesnt, you can do a whole macro cycle and come back to your zealots chasing terrified units :D
or you come back to all your templar being EMPed and the terran ball stimming on top of your army
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote: and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.
Alive was constantly controlling worse than herO towards the end I think.
I don't think Alive was microing that badly, but he was definitely trying to do too much when all he needed to was to focus on the main push. After the big early game advantage he should just get 2/2 and bunkers, what could hero do then? Roll over and die pretty much.
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote: and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.
Alive was constantly controlling worse than herO towards the end I think.
I don't think Alive was microing that badly, but he was definitely trying to do too much when all he needed to was to focus on the main push. After the big early game advantage he should just get 2/2 and bunkers, what could hero do then? Roll over and die pretty much.
yeah I don't get why he never got a defensive stance. It's not like he didn't know herO was kinda broke too, with no forges. Just get bunkers indeed.
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote: and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.
That applies to literally every race in this game
Really doesnt, you can do a whole macro cycle and come back to your zealots chasing terrified units :D
Strange, I only recall not paying attention to my warp prism filled with HTs for 1 sec and 5 marines sniped it.
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote: and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.
Alive was constantly controlling worse than herO towards the end I think.
I don't think Alive was microing that badly, but he was definitely trying to do too much when all he needed to was to focus on the main push. After the big early game advantage he should just get 2/2 and bunkers, what could hero do then? Roll over and die pretty much.
He kept trying to push out and counterattacking while knowing just how few probes herO's got. Probably pressure got to him that he didn't notice the lack of forges but yeah, once you saw herO keeps trying to attack you, why not just stay back and maybe build a bunker at the third?
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance
I dunno how you objectively measure caster bias. Personally I also don't think he's that biased relative to his peers, but I don't think that's in any way objective.
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance
I dunno how you objectively measure caster bias. Personally I also don't think he's that biased relative to his peers, but I don't think that's in any way objective.
Hire random-only casters or casters who obviously don't play the game and we're good
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance
I don't disagree with this - it's just something I noticed that the Protoss POV he sees the game from sometimes shines through despite his best efforts. Not really a criticism though, the only casters where I couldn't tell which race they play if I didn't know are probably Tastosis.
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance
I don't disagree with this - it's just something I noticed that the Protoss POV he sees the game from sometimes shines through despite his best efforts. Not really a criticism though, the only casters where I couldn't tell which race they play if I didn't know are probably Tastosis.
Until you listen to Artosis's stream for half a second.
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance
I dunno how you objectively measure caster bias. Personally I also don't think he's that biased relative to his peers, but I don't think that's in any way objective.
when people say "objective" in this context it means that i have made an effort to consider the subject from multiple points of view. this is common usage, and you should probably adapt to it since we are not writing essays or performing experiments
On February 26 2019 05:44 OtherWorld wrote: I mean this game seems pretty fun and entertaining
For us maybe, if I was either of these dudes I'd want to break my monitor in half after this game.
If I was Alive I'd be working on my angry Battle net post right now.
I'm more of an aLive fan but I predicted herO to advance out of the winner's bracket. I don't know what the hell is up with ZvP right now, but the fact that Scarlett and especially Ragnarok wrecked this group so bad completely busted this portion of my bracket.
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance
I dunno how you objectively measure caster bias. Personally I also don't think he's that biased relative to his peers, but I don't think that's in any way objective.
when people say "objective" in this context it means that i have made an effort to consider the subject from multiple points of view. this is common usage, and you should probably adapt to it since we are not writing essays or performing experiments
Have you made an effort to consider the subject from multiple points of view? I couldn't tell. 'Objectively' evaluating caster bias is about as objective as appreciating art objectively.
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote: Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units
Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible
rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance
I dunno how you objectively measure caster bias. Personally I also don't think he's that biased relative to his peers, but I don't think that's in any way objective.
when people say "objective" in this context it means that i have made an effort to consider the subject from multiple points of view. this is common usage, and you should probably adapt to it since we are not writing essays or performing experiments
Have you made an effort to consider the subject from multiple points of view? I couldn't tell. 'Objectively' evaluating caster bias is about as objective as appreciating art objectively.
I think it's just common misusage of "objective" to mean "of the majority opinion" nowadays, the same way "literal" became literally "figuratively."
But even if so, I can't see how one person can claim to represent "of the majority opinion," so I'm with Zigg here
On February 26 2019 05:46 sneakyfox wrote: Painful looking at aLive after that loss.
Playing that series must have been excruciating. It's almost 6 am in Korea, these guys must be completely fatigued
Jetlag doesn't exist - it's just an excuse for when koreans lose to foreigners. At least that's what I've been told
Yeah, well I guess it can be real when it is Korea v Korea.
aLive definitely made a lot of mistakes which seemed to come from him having a hard time keeping track of everything going on. Looked like someone worn out from a very long day.
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