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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-15 19:11:50
February 15 2019 19:11 GMT
#1

WCS 2019


eu Saturday, Feb 16 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
us Saturday, Feb 16 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)2019 WCS Winter/Europe
(Wiki)2019 WCS Winter/Americas

Streams & Casters


uk WCS

(P)iNcontroL - (T)Nathanias - (P)feardragon - (T)ZombieGrub

Format

  • Second Group Stage:

  • 16 players in 4 groups of 4 players each, played in a Dual Tournament Format.
  • All Matches are Bo3.
  • Top 2 players of each group advance to the next stage.

Map Pool



Group C


eu
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(P)ShoWTimE vs (P)DnS
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(Z)Elazer vs (P)Hellraiser



us
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(P)Neeb vs (P)MCanning

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(P)puCK vs (T)Epic


Results


+ Show Spoiler [EU Group C] +


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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 15 2019 23:47 GMT
#2
the lack of [ is really bothering me
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
February 16 2019 02:44 GMT
#3
On February 16 2019 08:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
the lack of [ is really bothering me

[

Here you go
very illegal and very uncool
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
February 16 2019 04:01 GMT
#4
RAPID!
Isillian
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom145 Posts
February 16 2019 04:02 GMT
#5
On February 16 2019 08:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
the lack of [ is really bothering me


I know right, one or none.
Isillian
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom145 Posts
February 16 2019 04:42 GMT
#6
Nice build and execution from Impact
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 16 2019 15:12 GMT
#7
feardragon says again and again "showtime is arguable the best european protoss" when he clearly is since years
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 16 2019 15:14 GMT
#8
all that protoss disgusts me
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 16 2019 15:34 GMT
#9
On February 17 2019 00:12 tilhorizon wrote:
feardragon says again and again "showtime is arguable the best european protoss" when he clearly is since years


He's yet to attain Artosis level of hype building
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
February 16 2019 15:39 GMT
#10
that was the worst build I've ever seen
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 16 2019 15:40 GMT
#11
In what bizarro world does that build work?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
February 16 2019 15:42 GMT
#12
On February 17 2019 00:40 JustPassingBy wrote:
In what bizarro world does that build work?

a Zerg pulling every worker to kill the walled-in cannon?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 16 2019 15:42 GMT
#13
Printf would’ve done better. Proxy robot version always beats 2 gate version.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 16 2019 15:45 GMT
#14
MCanning always sprays
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 16 2019 16:04 GMT
#15
Best Protoss EU 1 game away from going out 0-4 in his best match up.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 16 2019 16:05 GMT
#16
Are we gonna lose Special, Showtime and uThermal before the round of 8?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
February 16 2019 16:05 GMT
#17
something must be wrong maybe he is sick
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-16 16:27:24
February 16 2019 16:25 GMT
#18
Hellraiser doing the "If I do something bad he's never gonna see it coming" strat, are we sure he shouldn't play in NA?
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Xitah
Profile Joined October 2018
49 Posts
February 16 2019 16:34 GMT
#19
Wait ... How did dns beat showtime???
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 16 2019 16:44 GMT
#20
I feel like archon drop never work anymore, zerg are just to good against it now
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 16 2019 16:48 GMT
#21
On February 17 2019 01:44 Nakajin wrote:
I feel like archon drop never work anymore, zerg are just to good against it now

There's definitely a niche for it (excellent if Zerg misreads the build), but yeah. There's a reason it's long gone as the standard of PvZ
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 16 2019 16:52 GMT
#22
wow this nydus worm building is pretty strong
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4069 Posts
February 16 2019 16:53 GMT
#23
I love zerg with every fiber of my existence. Having said that - this nydus play should not be in the game.
Drone is a way of living
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-16 16:55:51
February 16 2019 16:53 GMT
#24
Can you imagine being able to build a nidus in someone main that well?
Elazer bringing the true pro player skill

On February 17 2019 01:52 Ej_ wrote:
wow this nydus worm building is pretty strong

Answering the age old question "what if warp prison were unkillable?"
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4069 Posts
February 16 2019 17:00 GMT
#25
They should make it possible to nydus only on creep
Drone is a way of living
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 16 2019 17:02 GMT
#26
On February 17 2019 02:00 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
They should make it possible to nydus only on creep


Not a bad idea! You would still be able to poop creep with overlord offensively but it would be easier to scout.
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4069 Posts
February 16 2019 17:03 GMT
#27
On February 17 2019 02:02 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2019 02:00 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
They should make it possible to nydus only on creep


Not a bad idea! You would still be able to poop creep with overlord offensively but it would be easier to scout.


Easier to scout, harder to drop multiple worms simultaneously, less space to drop second nydus once the first one is poped
Drone is a way of living
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 16 2019 17:10 GMT
#28
On February 17 2019 02:02 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2019 02:00 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
They should make it possible to nydus only on creep


Not a bad idea! You would still be able to poop creep with overlord offensively but it would be easier to scout.


Also easier to stop since the Overlord is less tough
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
February 16 2019 17:10 GMT
#29
Wait, how many DTs were there? Is that really instant gg?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7139 Posts
February 16 2019 17:12 GMT
#30
On February 17 2019 02:10 DBooN wrote:
Wait, how many DTs were there? Is that really instant gg?


one in every mineral line. means zero income for Dns
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 16 2019 17:15 GMT
#31
On February 17 2019 02:10 DBooN wrote:
Wait, how many DTs were there? Is that really instant gg?


He was super far behind, no forge no robo and it's a pain to deal with DT with oracles plus the stargate could have been snipe. He could have try but it's a fair gg I think
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 16 2019 17:23 GMT
#32
Die Rache der Mauer

GG Showtime, would be totally sick if Gungfu follows and makes it 4 Germans advancing.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 16 2019 18:40 GMT
#33
Good old NA
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 16 2019 18:41 GMT
#34
leading with the only detection you have. So NA
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 16 2019 18:56 GMT
#35
Tal'darim skins look really bad on a blue Protoss.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 16 2019 19:10 GMT
#36
On February 17 2019 03:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Tal'darim skins look really bad on a blue Protoss.

I don't think it looks good in any color. Just Protoss buildings painted black.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-16 19:14:23
February 16 2019 19:13 GMT
#37
Epic doing a good job 'improving' the PvT stats for arguing about balance. GSL terrans really let us down there.

On February 17 2019 04:10 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2019 03:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Tal'darim skins look really bad on a blue Protoss.

I don't think it looks good in any color. Just Protoss buildings painted black.


It looks decent when playing on Year Zero.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 16 2019 19:15 GMT
#38
On February 17 2019 04:10 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2019 03:56 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Tal'darim skins look really bad on a blue Protoss.

I don't think it looks good in any color. Just Protoss buildings painted black.


Oh, I agree. After WoL and HotS, Blizzard tried really hard to make the Tal'darim not be a joke, and they came out as hilariously edgy as I could have imagined.

But with the blue team colours they look even worse.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-16 19:35:47
February 16 2019 19:27 GMT
#39
Never seen that particular cannon rush on New Repugnancy before. There seems to be an infinite variety of them.

edit: Also does anyone know why pros occasionally take the default longer scouting path (not going through the middle) on King's Cove like puCK just did? Seems like an odd thing for a pro to make a mistake on, so maybe there's a reason?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-16 19:34:54
February 16 2019 19:31 GMT
#40
While they are talking about NA protoss, what was the name of that 13-14 California kid that played in WCS like 14 or 15 and what happen to him?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Exehn
Profile Joined August 2018
22 Posts
February 16 2019 19:36 GMT
#41
rofl puck could have just made another sentry or recall and push again with the disruptor... he had but threw it with horrible decisions
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-16 19:41:02
February 16 2019 19:39 GMT
#42
On February 17 2019 04:36 Lollipop11 wrote:
rofl puck could have just made another sentry or recall and push again with the disruptor... he had but threw it with horrible decisions


With Neeb having a prison force-fielding the ramp wasn't an option anymore and the recall is hard to do, you lose a bunch of your army for free and are still on 1 base, maybe it would have been the better call but it wasn't an easy one
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 16 2019 19:52 GMT
#43
puCK's hallucination use is pretty cool even if it isn't too effective.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
February 16 2019 20:32 GMT
#44
MCanning is one game away from WCS ro8, what a timeline
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 16 2019 21:32 GMT
#45
On February 17 2019 04:31 Nakajin wrote:
While they are talking about NA protoss, what was the name of that 13-14 California kid that played in WCS like 14 or 15 and what happen to him?

Arium

and LotV happened
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
February 16 2019 23:12 GMT
#46
On February 17 2019 06:32 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2019 04:31 Nakajin wrote:
While they are talking about NA protoss, what was the name of that 13-14 California kid that played in WCS like 14 or 15 and what happen to him?

Arium

and LotV happened

Arium stopped playing for a bit, came back, did a random out of the blue twitch stream where he burnt every single bridge by, one-by-one, shitting on nearly every single person he knew and then disappeared again.
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