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Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 01:23:08
February 09 2019 01:22 GMT
#1

WCS 2019


eu Saturday, Feb 09 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
us Saturday, Feb 09 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)2019 WCS Winter/Europe
(Wiki)2019 WCS Winter/Americas

Streams & Casters


uk WCS

(P)iNcontroL - (T)Nathanias - (P)feardragon - (T)ZombieGrub

Format

  • First Group Stage:

  • 32 players in 8 groups of 4 players each, played in a Dual Tournament
  • All Matches are Bo3.
  • Top 2 players of each group advance to Group Stage 2.

Map Pool



Group G


eu
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(Z)Serral vs (Z)SoulSpirit
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(Z)Namshar vs (T)Ziggy


us
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(T)Seither vs (T)Coffee
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(Z)TLO vs (Z)Silky


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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 09 2019 01:48 GMT
#2
The FINNISHER is back!!
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 09 2019 12:01 GMT
#3
why does TLO play on NA?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Meeii
Profile Joined July 2015
155 Posts
February 09 2019 12:41 GMT
#4
Always a treat to watch Serral play. It's just sad that the group have three zergs as ZvZ is pretty boring to watch.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
February 09 2019 12:50 GMT
#5
On February 09 2019 21:41 Meeii wrote:
Always a treat to watch Serral play. It's just sad that the group have three zergs as ZvZ is pretty boring to watch.


I disagree, this is not BW.
ZvZ can be messy but it's definitely entertaining when it's played at the highest level!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 12:54:06
February 09 2019 12:53 GMT
#6
On February 09 2019 21:01 Noonius wrote:
why does TLO play on NA?

Because he lives in Canada now with his gf and her daughter. Seems to be in a very happy place right now!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 09 2019 14:33 GMT
#7
Go SoulSpirit
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 14:38:23
February 09 2019 14:37 GMT
#8
Can SoulSpirit do it!?
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No, no he can't
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 09 2019 14:45 GMT
#9
No picture for Namshar? Weird since he seems pretty well known player. GL Serral.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 14:56:03
February 09 2019 14:55 GMT
#10
On February 09 2019 23:45 Weavel wrote:
No picture for Namshar? Weird since he seems pretty well known player. GL Serral.

I too hope that Serral won't be charged with murder after the broadcast.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
February 09 2019 14:57 GMT
#11
On February 09 2019 23:45 Weavel wrote:
No picture for Namshar? Weird since he seems pretty well known player. GL Serral.

Well TLPD hasn't really been updated since 2016.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 09 2019 15:03 GMT
#12
SERRAL TIME
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 09 2019 15:26 GMT
#13
Is observing always this bad?
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
February 09 2019 15:30 GMT
#14
Decent showing by SoulSpirit.
why even
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 09 2019 15:30 GMT
#15
Soulspirit was pretty good, could see him advancing.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 09 2019 15:30 GMT
#16
Easy win for Serral like expected
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 09 2019 15:31 GMT
#17
On February 10 2019 00:26 Weavel wrote:
Is observing always this bad?

They dont have dedicated observer
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 09 2019 15:42 GMT
#18
On February 10 2019 00:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 00:26 Weavel wrote:
Is observing always this bad?

They dont have dedicated observer


I wish they ask the 3rd caster to observe and put a longuer break between EU and NA to give them some rest instead.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 15:45:21
February 09 2019 15:43 GMT
#19
On February 10 2019 00:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 00:26 Weavel wrote:
Is observing always this bad?

They dont have dedicated observer

^ We would love to have a good dedicated observer.

If the 3rd caster was observing then we’d be doing 8 hour broadcasts with no breaks and you’d see both the observing and the casting break down pretty quickly. We can’t do longer breaks cause of timezones(chinese players for example are already staying up crazy late, want Americas to not go too late for EU viewers, etc.)
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 09 2019 16:04 GMT
#20
On February 10 2019 00:43 feardragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 00:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On February 10 2019 00:26 Weavel wrote:
Is observing always this bad?

They dont have dedicated observer

^ We would love to have a good dedicated observer.

If the 3rd caster was observing then we’d be doing 8 hour broadcasts with no breaks and you’d see both the observing and the casting break down pretty quickly. We can’t do longer breaks cause of timezones(chinese players for example are already staying up crazy late, want Americas to not go too late for EU viewers, etc.)


Fair enough, keep up the good work
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 09 2019 16:26 GMT
#21
Go SoulSpirit!
SaintTieum
Profile Joined November 2018
South Africa22 Posts
February 09 2019 16:45 GMT
#22
That was a weird game, well done Ziggy.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 09 2019 17:11 GMT
#23
Nice. Now go get the 2nd SoulSpirit, love seeing some new names (for me at least) doing well.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 17:13:54
February 09 2019 17:12 GMT
#24
Ziggy seemed to forget that tricking a player into over committing on defense from fake aggression early means they can just counter punch you in the face...
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 09 2019 17:24 GMT
#25
Lol hahaha
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 09 2019 17:36 GMT
#26
Namshar had no chance
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 09 2019 17:36 GMT
#27
SoulSpirit looked way better against Serral, let's see who gets through as #2.
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
February 09 2019 17:37 GMT
#28
That wasn't even close
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 09 2019 17:37 GMT
#29
Serral looking good.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 09 2019 17:42 GMT
#30
On February 10 2019 02:12 Boggyb wrote:
Ziggy seemed to forget that tricking a player into over committing on defense from fake aggression early means they can just counter punch you in the face...

Really crazy how doing a build that depends on not being scouted loses when it's scouted, isn't it?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 09 2019 18:03 GMT
#31
Not a bad game, not sure if the mutalisks were worth it.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 18:46:44
February 09 2019 18:10 GMT
#32
whaaaaaat that gg??????????

edit: Coffee is playing pretty well, definitely got the better TvT from what it looks like.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
February 09 2019 18:49 GMT
#33
Who is this Coffe guy he is doing good.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 09 2019 19:21 GMT
#34
really nice nydus play from TLO
MrFreeman
Profile Joined January 2015
207 Posts
February 09 2019 19:52 GMT
#35
Missed the games, is Serral still as strong as last year?
PS: It's nice that feardragon is reacting right here in the thread.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 09 2019 19:55 GMT
#36
On February 10 2019 04:52 MrFreeman wrote:
Missed the games, is Serral still as strong as last year?
PS: It's nice that feardragon is reacting right here in the thread.

Hard to say, he didn't get an opponent that was close to his level.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 20:13:41
February 09 2019 20:13 GMT
#37
On February 10 2019 04:55 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 04:52 MrFreeman wrote:
Missed the games, is Serral still as strong as last year?
PS: It's nice that feardragon is reacting right here in the thread.

Hard to say, he didn't get an opponent that was close to his level.

So the same as 90% of his matches from last year then.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
February 09 2019 20:19 GMT
#38
TLO is now officially full NA
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
February 09 2019 20:32 GMT
#39
sweet
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
February 09 2019 20:32 GMT
#40
creative!
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany459 Posts
February 09 2019 20:34 GMT
#41
That was a nice TLO move
Dark Age of Camelot - I miss you
MrFreeman
Profile Joined January 2015
207 Posts
February 09 2019 20:38 GMT
#42
On February 10 2019 04:55 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 04:52 MrFreeman wrote:
Missed the games, is Serral still as strong as last year?
PS: It's nice that feardragon is reacting right here in the thread.

Hard to say, he didn't get an opponent that was close to his level.


Well, Namshar is really good, top 5 EU zerg for sure.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 09 2019 20:44 GMT
#43
On February 10 2019 05:38 MrFreeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 04:55 HolydaKing wrote:
On February 10 2019 04:52 MrFreeman wrote:
Missed the games, is Serral still as strong as last year?
PS: It's nice that feardragon is reacting right here in the thread.

Hard to say, he didn't get an opponent that was close to his level.


Well, Namshar is really good, top 5 EU zerg for sure.


Hum he's probably the 5th or 6th zerg EU but he's well out of the top 10 foreign player for me probably around the top 20 so not really on Serral ball park just yet
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 09 2019 20:56 GMT
#44
On February 10 2019 05:38 MrFreeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 04:55 HolydaKing wrote:
On February 10 2019 04:52 MrFreeman wrote:
Missed the games, is Serral still as strong as last year?
PS: It's nice that feardragon is reacting right here in the thread.

Hard to say, he didn't get an opponent that was close to his level.


Well, Namshar is really good, top 5 EU zerg for sure.

hmm top 5? I guess it is possible, I for sure would put Serral Reynor Elazer and Lambo ahead of him
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany459 Posts
February 09 2019 20:57 GMT
#45
On February 10 2019 04:52 MrFreeman wrote:
Missed the games, is Serral still as strong as last year?
PS: It's nice that feardragon is reacting right here in the thread.


He swept through the group as expected. Didn´t take any risks, played it safe for the most part. Seemed strong as always, but it was only ZvZ and the opponents weren´t top notch. But i had the feeling he had less "problems" with Namshar than with SoulSpirit, maybe because he knows Namshar better.
Dark Age of Camelot - I miss you
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 21:32:11
February 09 2019 21:23 GMT
#46
nydys vs nydus is rather hilarious to watch
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 21:28:05
February 09 2019 21:25 GMT
#47
Apparently twitch chat in all its glory decided that Silky is maphacking
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
February 09 2019 21:41 GMT
#48
The Losing One, savage
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
February 09 2019 21:43 GMT
#49
TLO
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
terribleplayer1
Profile Joined July 2018
95 Posts
February 09 2019 21:46 GMT
#50
This NA group was insanely strong, compared to the rest no? Really good games.
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
February 09 2019 21:47 GMT
#51
meh - sad for TLO. He had a tough transition to NA training-wise (being kinda homeless for some time; training protoss for Deepmind) but some typically unnecessary mistakes for a player of his calibre. I really hope he can get some results in the next WCS tournaments, now his situation in Canada has stabilized.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 09 2019 21:56 GMT
#52
On February 10 2019 06:46 terribleplayer1 wrote:
This NA group was insanely strong, compared to the rest no? Really good games.


Kinda, it didin't have a strong first seed but all the player were pretty high level.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
LordYama
Profile Joined August 2010
United States370 Posts
February 10 2019 05:27 GMT
#53
To be fair, Silky played really well in that last match. TLO looked like he was playing a bit scared.
MrFreeman
Profile Joined January 2015
207 Posts
February 10 2019 11:36 GMT
#54
On February 10 2019 05:57 Rob-Zero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2019 04:52 MrFreeman wrote:
Missed the games, is Serral still as strong as last year?
PS: It's nice that feardragon is reacting right here in the thread.


He swept through the group as expected. Didn´t take any risks, played it safe for the most part. Seemed strong as always, but it was only ZvZ and the opponents weren´t top notch. But i had the feeling he had less "problems" with Namshar than with SoulSpirit, maybe because he knows Namshar better.


Ah, thanks. Well, Group stage 2 with some very strong opponents is in 4 days, so then we will see how he's adapted to the new balance changes. I'm hoping for some ZvT , uThermal vs Serral, now that would be a great match!
narbsncharbs
Profile Joined February 2019
34 Posts
February 10 2019 11:39 GMT
#55
Interesting results, I guess it is time to start watching Silky.
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