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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-03 10:29:28
February 03 2019 10:28 GMT
#1

WCS 2019


eu Sunday, Feb 03 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
us Sunday, Feb 03 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)2019 WCS Winter/Europe
(Wiki)2019 WCS Winter/Americas

Streams & Casters


uk WCS

(P)iNcontroL - (T)Nathanias - (P)feardragon - (T)ZombieGrub

Format

  • First Group Stage:

  • 32 players in 8 groups of 4 players each, played in a Dual Tournament
  • All Matches are Bo3.
  • Top 2 players of each group advance to Group Stage 2.

Map Pool



Group D


eu
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(Z)Lambo vs (P)Gerald
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(Z)Denver vs (P)Hellraiser


us
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(P)Neeb vs (Z)JimRising
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(Z)GogojOey vs (Z)Rex


Results


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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 03 2019 11:09 GMT
#2
Hellz yeh got ourselves a zerg day

Nate on suicide watch
Zerg for Life
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 03 2019 11:25 GMT
#3
Gerald
Lambo

Neeb
Rex
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
February 03 2019 12:44 GMT
#4
(Z)Lambo
(P)Hellraiser

(P)Neeb
(Z)JimRising

IMO.

"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
875 Posts
February 03 2019 14:05 GMT
#5
Hype for our ancient lizard !!!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
February 03 2019 14:43 GMT
#6
Gogo Lambo and Denver the best french zerg!
WriterMaru
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
February 03 2019 15:02 GMT
#7
Oh wow this will be a hard day of mirror Matchups or ZvP all day long... let's see, I still hope for some good games
Have a nice day!
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
February 03 2019 15:37 GMT
#8
On February 04 2019 00:02 watchlulu wrote:
Oh wow this will be a hard day of mirror Matchups or ZvP all day long... let's see, I still hope for some good games


Already not the best start here in my opinion ^^
Have a nice day!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 03 2019 15:48 GMT
#9
B-b-b-b-bogdan!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 03 2019 16:15 GMT
#10
pretty sick macro cheese
Zerg for Life
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 03 2019 16:25 GMT
#11
Gotta say that doing aggro builds like that vs Denver can't be the best of ideas.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 03 2019 17:32 GMT
#12
Today is best viewership yet for WCS Winter. About 30,000 viewers across all language streams.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 03 2019 17:55 GMT
#13
Bogdan <3, great build
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 03 2019 17:57 GMT
#14
That was disgusting
Zerg for Life
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 17:57 GMT
#15
On February 04 2019 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
That was disgusting

You mean amazing.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 03 2019 17:59 GMT
#16
On February 04 2019 02:32 Zzoram wrote:
Today is best viewership yet for WCS Winter. About 30,000 viewers across all language streams.

yeah maybe more people are starting to realize its going on
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 03 2019 18:00 GMT
#17
On February 04 2019 02:57 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2019 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
That was disgusting

You mean amazing.


The execution was great, doesn't mean it wasn't a disgusting build though
Zerg for Life
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 18:03 GMT
#18
Stargate in the wall is bad...

On February 04 2019 03:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2019 02:57 Boggyb wrote:
On February 04 2019 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:
That was disgusting

You mean amazing.


The execution was great, doesn't mean it wasn't a disgusting build though

There is no such thing as a disgusting build.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 03 2019 18:05 GMT
#19
On February 04 2019 03:03 Boggyb wrote:
Stargate in the wall is bad...

what why
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 03 2019 18:09 GMT
#20
Why did Denver let the hatch finish!?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 03 2019 18:09 GMT
#21
Well Denver fucked up.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 18:10 GMT
#22
On February 04 2019 03:05 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2019 03:03 Boggyb wrote:
Stargate in the wall is bad...

what why

If you defend with a full wall, you have a super high value target sitting up front. Obviously that didn't come in to play.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-03 18:11:37
February 03 2019 18:10 GMT
#23
On February 04 2019 03:09 Nakajin wrote:
Why did Denver let the hatch finish!?

Was pretty much gg when he didn't drill through the cannon...

On February 04 2019 03:10 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2019 03:05 Ej_ wrote:
On February 04 2019 03:03 Boggyb wrote:
Stargate in the wall is bad...

what why

If you defend with a full wall, you have a super high value target sitting up front. Obviously that didn't come in to play.

You mean a building with super high health vs a bane bust?

what are you even trying to say, that walling off is bad vs banelings or what?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 18:13 GMT
#24
Did Hellraiser make the robo after seeing the lair? Is there a reason he didn't go stargate since no roaches means immortals aren't as good?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 03 2019 18:15 GMT
#25
On February 04 2019 03:13 Boggyb wrote:
Did Hellraiser make the robo after seeing the lair? Is there a reason he didn't go stargate since no roaches means immortals aren't as good?

he made the robo, because this build is proxy battery immortal, the cannons are there just to get your robo up in zerg's natural
stargate loses to queens, immortal+prism beats all ground zerg units
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 03 2019 18:17 GMT
#26
so this group is Neeb + also ran
Zerg for Life
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 18:21 GMT
#27
On February 04 2019 03:17 KelsierSC wrote:
so this group is Neeb + also ran

WCS America is Neeb + also rans
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 18:29 GMT
#28
If you play your cards wrong, exposure could get you a trip to jail.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 03 2019 18:40 GMT
#29
On February 04 2019 03:29 Boggyb wrote:
If you play your cards wrong, exposure could get you a trip to jail.

hahaha
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 18:47 GMT
#30
That was a series of bad mistakes from Neeb. He probably still wins this game though.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-03 19:00:35
February 03 2019 19:00 GMT
#31
I get that immortals are important, but a warp prism would have been really nice for the last 2-3 fights.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 03 2019 19:00 GMT
#32
My god this was a shit game
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 03 2019 19:00 GMT
#33
On February 04 2019 04:00 Nakajin wrote:
My god this was a shit game

lol I was just thinking that was a pretty good game
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 19:03 GMT
#34
On February 04 2019 04:00 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2019 04:00 Nakajin wrote:
My god this was a shit game

lol I was just thinking that was a pretty good game

Eh, that game was close due to a series of uncharacteristic mistakes from Neeb. How many times did JimRising find Neeb's wall undefended? 2 or 3 times?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 03 2019 19:04 GMT
#35
On February 04 2019 04:00 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2019 04:00 Nakajin wrote:
My god this was a shit game

lol I was just thinking that was a pretty good game


Well it was a fun game to watch, but Neeb looked like he was just couldn't be bother and was just throwing is army at Jim over and over
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 03 2019 19:17 GMT
#36
First USA vs Mexico then Taiwan vs Hong Kong, we got some geopolitical starcraft today
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 19:20 GMT
#37
Why would Rex invest in ranged attack and not make roaches?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 19:21 GMT
#38
What an amazing micro battle there.
Shiiken222
Profile Joined February 2016
7 Posts
February 03 2019 19:24 GMT
#39
I am not in the habbit of critizising casters on TL and i love Incontrol for his humor and skills as a caster. I respect him a lot. But today i just want to say: Please, man, stop hating so much on Feardragon (or anyone else). Nobody is perfect, everybody makes mistakes and not everyone is as experienced on camera as you are. Getting critizised nonstop on camera doesnt make your casting any better. It makes you stiff, makes you trying to avoid mistakes, you focus on defending yourself instead of casting the game. I couldnt watch WCS today, because of this. It really made me angry.
Critizise all you want when the camera is off. When the camery is on please stop hating and try to work together.
Two casters should work together not against each other. Its neither good for you, nor the cocaster, nor the audience, nor starcraft II.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 19:26 GMT
#40
I feel like Rex probably wins that game had he invested in +1 melee instead of ranged as he was doing a lot of work with his ling runbys. He at the very least gets the kill on that hatch he took to ~25%
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 03 2019 19:31 GMT
#41
On February 04 2019 04:20 Boggyb wrote:
Why would Rex invest in ranged attack and not make roaches?


I would guess he wanted to go roaches muta, but it's kind of bad versus another spire play
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 19:34 GMT
#42
On February 04 2019 04:31 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2019 04:20 Boggyb wrote:
Why would Rex invest in ranged attack and not make roaches?

I would guess he wanted to go roaches muta, but it's kind of bad versus another spire play

That might make sense, but it's not like he was making roaches before he saw GogojOey's mutas. How late are you supposed to start making the roaches?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 03 2019 19:37 GMT
#43
On February 04 2019 04:34 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2019 04:31 Nakajin wrote:
On February 04 2019 04:20 Boggyb wrote:
Why would Rex invest in ranged attack and not make roaches?

I would guess he wanted to go roaches muta, but it's kind of bad versus another spire play

That might make sense, but it's not like he was making roaches before he saw GogojOey's mutas. How late are you supposed to start making the roaches?


I have no idea sadly
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
February 03 2019 19:49 GMT
#44
On February 04 2019 04:24 Shiiken222 wrote:
I am not in the habbit of critizising casters on TL and i love Incontrol for his humor and skills as a caster. I respect him a lot. But today i just want to say: Please, man, stop hating so much on Feardragon (or anyone else). Nobody is perfect, everybody makes mistakes and not everyone is as experienced on camera as you are. Getting critizised nonstop on camera doesnt make your casting any better. It makes you stiff, makes you trying to avoid mistakes, you focus on defending yourself instead of casting the game. I couldnt watch WCS today, because of this. It really made me angry.
Critizise all you want when the camera is off. When the camery is on please stop hating and try to work together.
Two casters should work together not against each other. Its neither good for you, nor the cocaster, nor the audience, nor starcraft II.

stop trolling
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 03 2019 20:03 GMT
#45
On February 04 2019 04:49 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2019 04:24 Shiiken222 wrote:
I am not in the habbit of critizising casters on TL and i love Incontrol for his humor and skills as a caster. I respect him a lot. But today i just want to say: Please, man, stop hating so much on Feardragon (or anyone else). Nobody is perfect, everybody makes mistakes and not everyone is as experienced on camera as you are. Getting critizised nonstop on camera doesnt make your casting any better. It makes you stiff, makes you trying to avoid mistakes, you focus on defending yourself instead of casting the game. I couldnt watch WCS today, because of this. It really made me angry.
Critizise all you want when the camera is off. When the camery is on please stop hating and try to work together.
Two casters should work together not against each other. Its neither good for you, nor the cocaster, nor the audience, nor starcraft II.

stop trolling


This one is actually a real account I think, but as for Geoff-Ravi thing. They are both in on it, and Geoff invited him over and over on his show and regularly praise and promote his tournament and work, the "intimidation" thing is a running joke.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-03 20:06:27
February 03 2019 20:05 GMT
#46
Nate surprise by corruptor vs Muta, someone miss the best game of 2018

Edit: Ok 30 corruptor is kinda insane
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 20:06 GMT
#47
On February 04 2019 05:05 Nakajin wrote:
Nate surprise by corruptor vs Muta, someone miss the best game of 2018

Corruptors vs muta isn't that crazy, but I don't think people typically go full corruptor with almost nothing on the ground.
Shiiken222
Profile Joined February 2016
7 Posts
February 03 2019 20:12 GMT
#48
On February 04 2019 04:49 starkiller123 wrote:

stop trolling


Its called Feedback
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 20:16 GMT
#49
That defense was pretty decent until that baneling hit.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 20:24 GMT
#50
I'm not sure 3 spore crawlers to go with 3+2 queens was enough to hold on once Mutas were revealed. Corruptors worked out great in the previous game, but the situation was so much different.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 20:26 GMT
#51
jOey cancelled ling speed...
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-03 20:32:17
February 03 2019 20:30 GMT
#52
Had jOey thrown down 9 spores immediately, he wins this super hard. Going Corruptors lost him this series.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 03 2019 20:44 GMT
#53
Ya pretty sure it's just bad Geoff
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 20:47 GMT
#54
I feel like that wall from Neeb looks a lot worse against a dedicated ling/bane pressure that doesn't start off losing 7 drones super early.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 03 2019 20:55 GMT
#55
We need to see iNcontroL and Artosis cast a bo7 together now.
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
February 04 2019 01:22 GMT
#56
Recommended games?
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 04 2019 03:43 GMT
#57
On February 04 2019 10:22 VengefulTree wrote:
Recommended games?

I wouldn't really recommend any of the games I saw for their Starcraft, but I would recommend any and every game cast by iNcontroL with particular emphasis on the ones he cast with Nathanias.

On that note, my WCS viewing experience would be significantly improved if Blizzard took a page out of Homestory Cup's playbook and replaced the desk with a couch, gave the casters access to as much caffeine and adult beverages as they wanted, and let them speak without any filters.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 04 2019 04:41 GMT
#58
On February 04 2019 12:43 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2019 10:22 VengefulTree wrote:
Recommended games?

I wouldn't really recommend any of the games I saw for their Starcraft, but I would recommend any and every game cast by iNcontroL with particular emphasis on the ones he cast with Nathanias.


I might be an Incontrol fanboy, but yes this plus the games he cast with Feardragon were good too.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 04 2019 13:47 GMT
#59
Yeh casting was great every day.

No real upsets (rex over jimrising is the closest i guess) but some pretty exciting games aswell.
Zerg for Life
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