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On November 03 2018 08:09 Yonnua wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2018 08:07 stilt wrote:On November 03 2018 07:52 Yonnua wrote:On November 03 2018 07:46 IshinShishi wrote:On November 03 2018 07:33 Ej_ wrote:On November 03 2018 07:32 IshinShishi wrote:On November 03 2018 07:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Cool series. This weekend is starting off way better than the last one. nope, Maru still got bopped by cannons and supply depots 3-0 And it was amazing. eh, it kinda delegitimizes the game, I watch those 3 games and think that might as well have been col.cruncher vs drewbie If anything, I think it's the opposite. Good players win by using standard builds and strategies really well. Only a truly great player can win by using something that's not meant to be good. It validates Starcraft as a game of strategy, and not just a skill dump where you when by playing lots. Tricks, mind-games, and intelligence absolutely should be part of the game, and being able to upset a titan by using them perfectly makes the game better, not worse. That's a old debate, I prefer the good old macro game with a lot tactical depth which u do not acquire just by "playing a lot", sorry but that's a stupid raisonning, in this case everyone would be Taeja rather than the non stop mind game or/and coin flip like sOs does in 100k tournaments. A bit of the two like Life did is probably the best but seeing how mindgame on build order can be so much more successful than a tactical macro monster play in sc2 particulary on the protoss side made me really dislike the race. Well, sOs at least has good mechanics unlike has. I literally said in my post that they should be part of the game- don't call someone stupid when you're agreeing with what they're saying. Definitely don't do it when there's a typo in your post.
Well, you said tricks and mindgame should be able to defeat "titan", I don't think players who are stronger than you should be defeated by this only in large bo, that's how it is but I would always prefer a win by innovation or taeja which have a different meaning, for me at least. And the thing you fail to understand is I associate tactical skill to a macro game, that's army movement, positionning, basically the tactical depth which is kinda the opposite of fast games based on tricky build order resulting of mindgames.
And yes, associating macro games wins to just a guy who plays a lot is stupid.
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On November 03 2018 08:18 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2018 08:09 Yonnua wrote:On November 03 2018 08:07 stilt wrote:On November 03 2018 07:52 Yonnua wrote:On November 03 2018 07:46 IshinShishi wrote:On November 03 2018 07:33 Ej_ wrote:On November 03 2018 07:32 IshinShishi wrote:On November 03 2018 07:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Cool series. This weekend is starting off way better than the last one. nope, Maru still got bopped by cannons and supply depots 3-0 And it was amazing. eh, it kinda delegitimizes the game, I watch those 3 games and think that might as well have been col.cruncher vs drewbie If anything, I think it's the opposite. Good players win by using standard builds and strategies really well. Only a truly great player can win by using something that's not meant to be good. It validates Starcraft as a game of strategy, and not just a skill dump where you when by playing lots. Tricks, mind-games, and intelligence absolutely should be part of the game, and being able to upset a titan by using them perfectly makes the game better, not worse. That's a old debate, I prefer the good old macro game with a lot tactical depth which u do not acquire just by "playing a lot", sorry but that's a stupid raisonning, in this case everyone would be Taeja rather than the non stop mind game or/and coin flip like sOs does in 100k tournaments. A bit of the two like Life did is probably the best but seeing how mindgame on build order can be so much more successful than a tactical macro monster play in sc2 particulary on the protoss side made me really dislike the race. Well, sOs at least has good mechanics unlike has. I literally said in my post that they should be part of the game- don't call someone stupid when you're agreeing with what they're saying. Definitely don't do it when there's a typo in your post. Well, you said tricks and mindgame should be able to defeat "titan", I don't think players who are stronger than you should be defeated by this.
Are you new to Starcraft :D?
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
These loud opening are getting annoying, or is it just me?
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On November 03 2018 08:18 Argonauta wrote:
I don't know why rogue is so roach ravanger focused vs bio. He did the same vs special and it didn't go that well
it isn't that bad but you need to mix some banelings like Dark tho
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Is it gonna be the glorious pool first vs proxy rax into loss anyways?
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On November 03 2018 08:19 deacon.frost wrote:
These loud opening are getting annoying, or is it just me?
Nope, I already noticed that in the first series. Where Maynarde screamed like the world is about to end...
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On November 03 2018 08:19 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2018 08:18 Argonauta wrote:
I don't know why rogue is so roach ravanger focused vs bio. He did the same vs special and it didn't go that well it isn't that bad but you need to mix some banelings like Dark tho
You're supposed to win/get a big lead with the 1/1 timing. Then the transition is smooth, but Rogue didn't do anything meaningful with his push.
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On November 03 2018 08:19 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2018 08:18 stilt wrote:On November 03 2018 08:09 Yonnua wrote:On November 03 2018 08:07 stilt wrote:On November 03 2018 07:52 Yonnua wrote:On November 03 2018 07:46 IshinShishi wrote:On November 03 2018 07:33 Ej_ wrote:On November 03 2018 07:32 IshinShishi wrote:On November 03 2018 07:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Cool series. This weekend is starting off way better than the last one. nope, Maru still got bopped by cannons and supply depots 3-0 And it was amazing. eh, it kinda delegitimizes the game, I watch those 3 games and think that might as well have been col.cruncher vs drewbie If anything, I think it's the opposite. Good players win by using standard builds and strategies really well. Only a truly great player can win by using something that's not meant to be good. It validates Starcraft as a game of strategy, and not just a skill dump where you when by playing lots. Tricks, mind-games, and intelligence absolutely should be part of the game, and being able to upset a titan by using them perfectly makes the game better, not worse. That's a old debate, I prefer the good old macro game with a lot tactical depth which u do not acquire just by "playing a lot", sorry but that's a stupid raisonning, in this case everyone would be Taeja rather than the non stop mind game or/and coin flip like sOs does in 100k tournaments. A bit of the two like Life did is probably the best but seeing how mindgame on build order can be so much more successful than a tactical macro monster play in sc2 particulary on the protoss side made me really dislike the race. Well, sOs at least has good mechanics unlike has. I literally said in my post that they should be part of the game- don't call someone stupid when you're agreeing with what they're saying. Definitely don't do it when there's a typo in your post. Well, you said tricks and mindgame should be able to defeat "titan", I don't think players who are stronger than you should be defeated by this. Are you new to Starcraft :D?
No, I just dislike protoss, especially sOs, blizzcons are generally a rough time for me. :/
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Is there any way TY survives this?
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On November 03 2018 08:08 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2018 08:06 Xamo wrote:On November 03 2018 07:59 Rodya wrote:On November 03 2018 07:53 Argonauta wrote:
Maru delegitimized? the momentum of winning 3 GSL in a row cant be that easy to lose Yeah some people think that Blizzcon is to Starcraft 2 what the TI is to Dota or whatever other games have tournaments like this. In reality, GSL is the most important tournament - there is a reason why sOs, the most successful player at Blizzcon (as in, whilst playing at Blizzcon) is not even in the discussion (remotely) for best sc2 player of all tiem. I disagree, a Blizzcon win is more important than a GSL win. I'm sure the players are more motivated to win $280k than $37k. It is just that it has a week-ender format and therefore games are less refined due to the lack of preparation time. If $O$ wins his 3rd Blizzcon, he's a strong candidate to GOAT protoss to say the least. yeah except it harder to win a GSL so...sorry sOs is not a candidate for GOAT regardless of if he wins or not
No, it is not harder. The level of play is higher, but both players have more preparation time.
There are way more GSLs than Blizzcon finals. The latter are harder to win.
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On November 03 2018 08:21 JoeCool wrote:
Was this worth it?
Depends on whether TY miraculously holds now 
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
???
Jokes aside, seriously what.
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On November 03 2018 08:22 Ej_ wrote:Depends on whether TY miraculously holds now
:D That's what I thought
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today is not a good day for proxying
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