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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
November 02 2018 23:09 GMT
#1641
On November 03 2018 07:59 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 07:58 DBooN wrote:
Dear beat Rogue lategame without the fist of Neeb.

Beautiful game, honestly.

Can I get a link to that game?

I've been much more following broodwar so I kinda missed some of the good but not quite 100% hype games of SC2.
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
November 02 2018 23:09 GMT
#1642
On November 03 2018 08:07 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 07:52 Yonnua wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:46 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:33 Ej_ wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:32 IshinShishi wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:30 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Cool series. This weekend is starting off way better than the last one.

nope, Maru still got bopped by cannons and supply depots 3-0

And it was amazing.

eh, it kinda delegitimizes the game, I watch those 3 games and think that might as well have been col.cruncher vs drewbie

If anything, I think it's the opposite. Good players win by using standard builds and strategies really well. Only a truly great player can win by using something that's not meant to be good. It validates Starcraft as a game of strategy, and not just a skill dump where you when by playing lots. Tricks, mind-games, and intelligence absolutely should be part of the game, and being able to upset a titan by using them perfectly makes the game better, not worse.


That's a old debate, I prefer the good old macro game with a lot tactical depth which u do not acquire just by "playing a lot", sorry but that's a stupid raisonning, in this case everyone would be Taeja rather than the non stop mind game or/and coin flip like sOs does in 100k tournaments. A bit of the two like Life did is probably the best but seeing how mindgame on build order can be so much more successful than a tactical macro monster play in sc2 particulary on the protoss side made me really dislike the race.
Well, sOs at least has good mechanics unlike has.

I literally said in my post that they should be part of the game- don't call someone stupid when you're agreeing with what they're saying. Definitely don't do it when there's a typo in your post.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4960 Posts
November 02 2018 23:10 GMT
#1643
On November 03 2018 08:08 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 08:04 Argonauta wrote:
is it just me or each time the analysis desk/talkcouch or whatever delivers even poorer commentary? They dont have any insight of players.... only superlatives

Just listen to the current in-game commentary - it is ALL serious analysis. This is what it's like when someone actually knows something about the game commentating.



The thing is I like when Artosis cast, I like when PiG does analysis in their youtube channel, I love rotti analysis but when they are in the couch... they become dumb.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
November 02 2018 23:10 GMT
#1644
Whoops, missed the beginning of the game. What happened?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 02 2018 23:11 GMT
#1645
On November 03 2018 08:10 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Whoops, missed the beginning of the game. What happened?

Nothing, actaully lol.

delayed metabolic boost for more eco vs rax CC fact CC
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
SSNYC77
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
43 Posts
November 02 2018 23:11 GMT
#1646
On November 03 2018 08:08 starkiller123 wrote:
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On November 03 2018 08:06 Xamo wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:59 Rodya wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:53 Argonauta wrote:
Maru delegitimized? the momentum of winning 3 GSL in a row cant be that easy to lose

Yeah some people think that Blizzcon is to Starcraft 2 what the TI is to Dota or whatever other games have tournaments like this.

In reality, GSL is the most important tournament - there is a reason why sOs, the most successful player at Blizzcon (as in, whilst playing at Blizzcon) is not even in the discussion (remotely) for best sc2 player of all tiem.

I disagree, a Blizzcon win is more important than a GSL win. I'm sure the players are more motivated to win $280k than $37k. It is just that it has a week-ender format and therefore games are less refined due to the lack of preparation time.

If $O$ wins his 3rd Blizzcon, he's a strong candidate to GOAT protoss to say the least.

yeah except it harder to win a GSL so...sorry sOs is not a candidate for GOAT regardless of if he wins or not

Different, not harder. We've had specialist in both tournament styles.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
November 02 2018 23:12 GMT
#1647
On November 03 2018 08:11 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 08:10 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Whoops, missed the beginning of the game. What happened?

Nothing, actaully lol.

delayed metabolic boost for more eco vs rax CC fact CC


Oh, ok .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
November 02 2018 23:12 GMT
#1648
Both players playing this quite carefully. Looks like we might get a lategame ZvT?
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 02 2018 23:12 GMT
#1649
On November 03 2018 08:12 Yonnua wrote:
Both players playing this quite carefully. Looks like we might get a lategame ZvT?

Rogue is doing a 1/1 all-in
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16031 Posts
November 02 2018 23:12 GMT
#1650
On November 03 2018 08:11 SSNYC77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 08:08 starkiller123 wrote:
On November 03 2018 08:06 Xamo wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:59 Rodya wrote:
On November 03 2018 07:53 Argonauta wrote:
Maru delegitimized? the momentum of winning 3 GSL in a row cant be that easy to lose

Yeah some people think that Blizzcon is to Starcraft 2 what the TI is to Dota or whatever other games have tournaments like this.

In reality, GSL is the most important tournament - there is a reason why sOs, the most successful player at Blizzcon (as in, whilst playing at Blizzcon) is not even in the discussion (remotely) for best sc2 player of all tiem.

I disagree, a Blizzcon win is more important than a GSL win. I'm sure the players are more motivated to win $280k than $37k. It is just that it has a week-ender format and therefore games are less refined due to the lack of preparation time.

If $O$ wins his 3rd Blizzcon, he's a strong candidate to GOAT protoss to say the least.

yeah except it harder to win a GSL so...sorry sOs is not a candidate for GOAT regardless of if he wins or not

Different, not harder. We've had specialist in both tournament styles.

agree with this. If it's so much harder to win a Starleague than a weekender - why has Maru won 5 Starleagues and only 1 weekender?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
November 02 2018 23:12 GMT
#1651
On November 03 2018 08:12 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 08:12 Yonnua wrote:
Both players playing this quite carefully. Looks like we might get a lategame ZvT?

Rogue is doing a 1/1 all-in

Is he? He has a fourth base.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 02 2018 23:13 GMT
#1652
On November 03 2018 08:12 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 08:12 Ej_ wrote:
On November 03 2018 08:12 Yonnua wrote:
Both players playing this quite carefully. Looks like we might get a lategame ZvT?

Rogue is doing a 1/1 all-in

Is he? He has a fourth base.

1/1 ranged has no real transition at this level and he cut drones at 67, the 4th is to transfer workers when he forces 3rd to lift
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
November 02 2018 23:13 GMT
#1653
On November 03 2018 08:10 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 08:08 Rodya wrote:
On November 03 2018 08:04 Argonauta wrote:
is it just me or each time the analysis desk/talkcouch or whatever delivers even poorer commentary? They dont have any insight of players.... only superlatives

Just listen to the current in-game commentary - it is ALL serious analysis. This is what it's like when someone actually knows something about the game commentating.



The thing is I like when Artosis cast, I like when PiG does analysis in their youtube channel, I love rotti analysis but when they are in the couch... they become dumb.


I think Rotti is actually doing a fine job.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
November 02 2018 23:13 GMT
#1654
8 min max
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 02 2018 23:14 GMT
#1655
TAE YANG

TAEYANG
TAEYANG


TAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 02 2018 23:14 GMT
#1656
queens are so disgusting
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 02 2018 23:14 GMT
#1657
Those anti armor missles damn.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 02 2018 23:15 GMT
#1658
On November 03 2018 08:14 starkiller123 wrote:
queens are so disgusting

Are you sure this is the game where you want to whine about Zerg?
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
November 02 2018 23:15 GMT
#1659
Why is the first person view shown on a small window? So fucking stupid.
SplattedOne
Profile Joined May 2013
155 Posts
November 02 2018 23:15 GMT
#1660
On November 03 2018 08:14 DBooN wrote:
Those anti armor missles damn.

Yeah, I really thought TY was dead then most of Rogue's army was orange.
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