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On March 09 2018 19:59 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 19:52 DBooN wrote:On March 09 2018 19:48 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 09 2018 19:46 DBooN wrote:On March 09 2018 19:39 starkiller123 wrote:On March 09 2018 19:35 Olli wrote:On March 09 2018 19:33 starkiller123 wrote:On March 09 2018 19:31 Olli wrote:On March 09 2018 19:29 starkiller123 wrote:On March 09 2018 19:28 Soularion wrote:
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So basically, out of 4 games, the only macro game she won was in a broken matchup against a player who is proven to be terrible at that matchup?
Yeah, seems about right. It's actually a little hilarious how lost Zest is in pvz right now I totally get it though  Oh yeah pvz looks pretty rough right now, Zest just makes it look way more imbalanced than it really is It's quite sad, cause his PvP and PvT are both really good. 3-0'd herO just yesterday. But he can't PvZ for the life of him. And of course he gets Dark Atleast that way he wont eliminate great players before losing in disappointing fashion in a PvZ. You mean Impact? I mean Inno looked pretty bad in GSL and IEM. I don't understand what you mean, I wasn't referencing anything in particular. You were talking about Zest eliminating great players before losing in PvZ. I assumed this meant Zest eliminating Innovation, as Zest hasn't really eliminated anyone in a while.
I was just referring in general to players that are strong in one matchup and weak in another eliminating a strong player in their strong matchup and then performing poorly against a relatively weaker opponent in their weak matchup.
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On March 09 2018 20:13 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 20:07 starkiller123 wrote:On March 09 2018 20:05 Fango wrote:
Classic vs soO is gonna be another 4-0 isn't it? How has soO's ZvP looked lately? I can't remember any recent games from him vs toss It's probably good enough to beat Classic, who's PvZ is a glaring weakness right now
It absolutely is not a glaring weakness.
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On March 09 2018 20:15 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 20:13 Fango wrote:On March 09 2018 20:07 starkiller123 wrote:On March 09 2018 20:05 Fango wrote:
Classic vs soO is gonna be another 4-0 isn't it? How has soO's ZvP looked lately? I can't remember any recent games from him vs toss It's probably good enough to beat Classic, who's PvZ is a glaring weakness right now It absolutely is not a glaring weakness.
It's just every Protoss' weakness
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On March 09 2018 20:13 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 20:07 starkiller123 wrote:On March 09 2018 20:05 Fango wrote:
Classic vs soO is gonna be another 4-0 isn't it? How has soO's ZvP looked lately? I can't remember any recent games from him vs toss It's probably good enough to beat Classic, who's PvZ is a glaring weakness right now
I wouldn't say it's a glaring weakness, yeah he lost badly to Rogue but pvz is zerg favored plus Rogue was on fire. Zest on the other hand has a glaring weakness in pvz
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On March 09 2018 20:15 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 20:13 Fango wrote:On March 09 2018 20:07 starkiller123 wrote:On March 09 2018 20:05 Fango wrote:
Classic vs soO is gonna be another 4-0 isn't it? How has soO's ZvP looked lately? I can't remember any recent games from him vs toss It's probably good enough to beat Classic, who's PvZ is a glaring weakness right now It absolutely is not a glaring weakness.
0-4 to Rogue and (what should have been) 0-2 to Elazer doesn't convince me otherwise. Especially considering he looks unbeatable in the other two MUs
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Worth noting the ro4 will likely be played after the balance patch which might help a bit
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On March 09 2018 20:16 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 20:15 Olli wrote:On March 09 2018 20:13 Fango wrote:On March 09 2018 20:07 starkiller123 wrote:On March 09 2018 20:05 Fango wrote:
Classic vs soO is gonna be another 4-0 isn't it? How has soO's ZvP looked lately? I can't remember any recent games from him vs toss It's probably good enough to beat Classic, who's PvZ is a glaring weakness right now It absolutely is not a glaring weakness. 0-4 to Rogue and (what should have been) 0-2 to Elazer doesn't convince me otherwise. Especially considering he looks unbeatable in the other two MUs
He beat elazer and only lost a map to a nydus allin.
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Austria24417 Posts
I still like this for Stats.
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On March 09 2018 20:18 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2018 20:16 Fango wrote:On March 09 2018 20:15 Olli wrote:On March 09 2018 20:13 Fango wrote:On March 09 2018 20:07 starkiller123 wrote:On March 09 2018 20:05 Fango wrote:
Classic vs soO is gonna be another 4-0 isn't it? How has soO's ZvP looked lately? I can't remember any recent games from him vs toss It's probably good enough to beat Classic, who's PvZ is a glaring weakness right now It absolutely is not a glaring weakness. 0-4 to Rogue and (what should have been) 0-2 to Elazer doesn't convince me otherwise. Especially considering he looks unbeatable in the other two MUs He beat elazer and only lost a map to a nydus allin.
Thing is, the reason he didn't lose 0-2 was because of a huge mistake from Elazer, not an amazing play by classic. So I still view it as a lacking PvZ performance. SoO wouldn't make those mistakes outside of a final
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Those three phoenix may have just won the game
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stats is the best macro PvP player come at me
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Gotta say I'm impressed by Stats.
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+2 just way too strong!
We going to game 5 boys!!
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I really enjoy this pvp! Both are sooo good
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This has actually been a pretty quality pvp
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Really interesting choice to take a third but no upgrades, seems like youre aiming at two different things
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On March 09 2018 20:27 Pandain wrote:
Really interesting choice to take a third but no upgrades, seems like youre aiming at two different things
He had to, Stats was just gonna sit at home on two bases as long as Classic didn't have a third himself, meaning Stats' upgrade advantage only grows and Classic's not gaining any ground on him (and can't kill him). The goal for Classic there is to kill Stats' army or at least cancel his third for so long that his pure army supply equals out the upgrade disadvantage, and he needs a third to do that.
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The Neon Violet Squares claim another victim
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Ill be happy with a great game or stats victory
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