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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 11:55:07
March 01 2018 11:54 GMT
#121
On March 01 2018 20:53 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:53 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:52 Durnuu wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:


oh shit

TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken.

barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL.

TIL Showtime should be able to come close to beating TY

This is not what I said, but go ahead and keep dismissing the points by bringing up this shitty argument.

I repeat myself; once we see a terran player beating a superior protoss players with mass raven then we can talk about imbalance.
Everything looks OP when there's a big skill difference
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 01 2018 11:56 GMT
#122
On March 01 2018 20:54 Pandain wrote:
Round 1 not looking great for foreigners.

Dear 2-0 Special
TY 2-0 Showtime

Games weren't particularly close.

Nah Showtime just lost because Ravens are broken otherwise he would've swept TY
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 01 2018 11:56 GMT
#123
On March 01 2018 20:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:53 Durnuu wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:53 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:52 Durnuu wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit

TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken.

barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL.

TIL Showtime should be able to come close to beating TY

This is not what I said, but go ahead and keep dismissing the points by bringing up this shitty argument.

I repeat myself; once we see a terran player beating a superior protoss players with mass raven then we can talk about imbalance.
Everything looks OP when there's a big skill difference

Not to mention this only happens on a single map out of 7.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
March 01 2018 11:56 GMT
#124
10 is enough to missile "one-shot" any army if you have enough energy saved up.

Showtime really stood no chance in that game, not sure why he invested so much into stalker/archons.

Stalkers are the only unit that can dodge raven missiles/has anti-air.
What else should he have produced? Air units are too slow.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 01 2018 11:57 GMT
#125
On March 01 2018 20:56 leublix wrote:
10 is enough to missile "one-shot" any army if you have enough energy saved up.

Show nested quote +
Showtime really stood no chance in that game, not sure why he invested so much into stalker/archons.

Stalkers are the only unit that can dodge raven missiles/has anti-air.
What else should he have produced? Air units are too slow.

The tempest approach didn't seem to bad until he lost his patience
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 01 2018 11:57 GMT
#126
you guys just can't appreciate the beautiful armor "missiles"

sad
I Protoss winner, could it be?
MrWayne
Profile Joined December 2016
219 Posts
March 01 2018 11:57 GMT
#127
TY actually never massed ravens, i think he never had more than 10 or so.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 01 2018 12:00 GMT
#128
Yeah you need just 10 to instabomb entire air army that naturaly clumps and can't split
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 01 2018 12:01 GMT
#129
On March 01 2018 21:00 Ej_ wrote:
Yeah you need just 10 to instabomb entire air army that naturaly clumps and can't split

and hope your opponent is too slow to feedback the ravens and doesn't pre-split.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 01 2018 12:02 GMT
#130
Gumiho vs Special is huge.

If Special can't take down gumiho, I'd say no way he comes back from 0-2 when he has to face Maru, TY,
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 01 2018 12:02 GMT
#131
too bad that toss doesnt have a point and click anti caster spell to combat ravens
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 01 2018 12:02 GMT
#132
Honestly they should buff storm against air and parasitic bomb, then maybe this mass air shitshow would finally end.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 01 2018 12:02 GMT
#133
On March 01 2018 21:01 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 21:00 Ej_ wrote:
Yeah you need just 10 to instabomb entire air army that naturaly clumps and can't split

and hope your opponent is too slow to feedback the ravens and doesn't pre-split.

Your units clump whenever they move and the missile is undodgeable. What pre-split are we talking about?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 01 2018 12:03 GMT
#134
On March 01 2018 21:02 Paljas wrote:
too bad that toss doesnt have a point and click anti caster spell to combat ravens

They do, it dies to snipe, emp and liberators
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 01 2018 12:04 GMT
#135
While I don't think Showtime played that perfectly, it looked kinda imba. Showtime definitely could have prevented TY from just expanding at the top like he wanted instead of just using his whole army to attack the PF where TY's whole army was at.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 01 2018 12:05 GMT
#136
yeah, the the raven is broken right now, but terran doesnt have any other way to combat late game toss. bio just gets obliterated by the mass aoe
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 01 2018 12:06 GMT
#137
On March 01 2018 21:02 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 21:01 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 01 2018 21:00 Ej_ wrote:
Yeah you need just 10 to instabomb entire air army that naturaly clumps and can't split

and hope your opponent is too slow to feedback the ravens and doesn't pre-split.

Your units clump whenever they move and the missile is undodgeable. What pre-split are we talking about?

You know, moving your army into different directions so they don't all get hit by splash. Kinda like terran does vs storm and pbomb.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 01 2018 12:06 GMT
#138
On March 01 2018 21:03 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 21:02 Paljas wrote:
too bad that toss doesnt have a point and click anti caster spell to combat ravens

They do, it dies to snipe, emp and liberators

he was being sarcastic?
Faker is the GOAT!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 01 2018 12:06 GMT
#139
On March 01 2018 21:03 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 21:02 Paljas wrote:
too bad that toss doesnt have a point and click anti caster spell to combat ravens

They do, it dies to snipe, emp and liberators

with that attitude certainly
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 01 2018 12:10 GMT
#140
On March 01 2018 20:57 MrWayne wrote:
TY actually never massed ravens, i think he never had more than 10 or so.

And he would have won without making a single one. He beat better protoss players with BC strats on harder maps than this.
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