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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
March 02 2018 00:18 GMT
#1181
Any recommended matches?
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leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
March 02 2018 00:23 GMT
#1182
Solar vs Dark was a nice series.

TY vs Dear was good too iirc.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
March 02 2018 01:32 GMT
#1183
Group B wasn't as delicious as group A.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1208 Posts
March 02 2018 01:33 GMT
#1184
On March 02 2018 09:02 leublix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 07:10 Duckman wrote:
That's BS, the tiebreaker should be head 2 head not mapscore; he beat Hurricane.

How many 3 way ties do we need until everyone understands it.

Map score is almost always better because it's a measure of how well you did in a series rather than if you won it or not. Plus 3-way ties are just annoying.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 02 2018 01:48 GMT
#1185
Solar vs Dark game 1 was so cool wtf
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Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 02:25:26
March 02 2018 02:21 GMT
#1186
On March 02 2018 10:33 FrkFrJss wrote:
Map score is almost always better because it's a measure of how well you did in a series rather than if you won it or not. Plus 3-way ties are just annoying.


The whole advantage of round robin groups is that it's not just about whether you can beat specific people but your overall ability measured against multiple opponents. It seems odd that people are so eager to revert the result back to a single matchup.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 02 2018 03:18 GMT
#1187
On March 02 2018 09:06 leublix wrote:
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On March 02 2018 09:03 vult wrote:
TRUE's one map win was the difference in uThermal making vs not making it. Fucking brutal.

No, uThermal would've needed an additional win as well. It was 7-6 vs 6-7.

he's not wrong

if True took one map from hurricane
AND
did not take that one map from uthermal

'one map' in 2 series essentially
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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
March 02 2018 05:39 GMT
#1188
Has Innovation been eliminated (from this tournament) for good? I haven't been able to watch any of this tournament yet, and I looked at the past few pages of this thread and I'm not sure.

Thanks in advance for the answer!
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
March 02 2018 05:45 GMT
#1189
On March 02 2018 09:18 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?

Solar vs Inno game 3
Dark vs Inno game 2
Solar vs Dark game 1
Maru vs Dear both games
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Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
March 02 2018 06:27 GMT
#1190
On March 02 2018 10:33 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 09:02 leublix wrote:
On March 02 2018 07:10 Duckman wrote:
That's BS, the tiebreaker should be head 2 head not mapscore; he beat Hurricane.

How many 3 way ties do we need until everyone understands it.

Map score is almost always better because it's a measure of how well you did in a series rather than if you won it or not. Plus 3-way ties are just annoying.

In my opinion weighing series more than single maps is better, thus I like head 2 head tie-breaker before map score. StarCraft maps do not offer an equal chance for every player in every match-up, so this leaves big room for chance to affect the crucial single map wins or losses.
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Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
March 02 2018 06:28 GMT
#1191
On March 02 2018 14:39 Frudgey wrote:
Has Innovation been eliminated (from this tournament) for good? I haven't been able to watch any of this tournament yet, and I looked at the past few pages of this thread and I'm not sure.

Thanks in advance for the answer!

Yes, he is out.
starcraft2.fi
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 02 2018 06:44 GMT
#1192
On March 02 2018 14:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 09:18 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?

Solar vs Inno game 3
Dark vs Inno game 2
Solar vs Dark game 1
Maru vs Dear both games

Solar vs Dark wntire series
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 07:21:22
March 02 2018 06:56 GMT
#1193
On March 02 2018 15:27 Azhrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 10:33 FrkFrJss wrote:
On March 02 2018 09:02 leublix wrote:
On March 02 2018 07:10 Duckman wrote:
That's BS, the tiebreaker should be head 2 head not mapscore; he beat Hurricane.

How many 3 way ties do we need until everyone understands it.

Map score is almost always better because it's a measure of how well you did in a series rather than if you won it or not. Plus 3-way ties are just annoying.

In my opinion weighing series more than single maps is better, thus I like head 2 head tie-breaker before map score. StarCraft maps do not offer an equal chance for every player in every match-up, so this leaves big room for chance to affect the crucial single map wins or losses.

Maybe, but the map score is indicative of your overall performance rather than just a single series. The map score does not weigh an individual map as more important but rather all the maps that a person played. Sure, it came down to two maps in score for group B, but it means overall, Hurricane played better than uThermal.

With 3 wins, 2 losses and h2h tiebreaker, a person could go 8-4 (3 (2-0) and 2 (1-2)) and lose to a person with 6-7 (3 (2-1) and 2 (0-2)). So despite one player playing much better than the other, with h2h, arguably the better player loses.

Now, you can tie with map score, but you have a range of 5 maps. With h2h, you either lost or won, and it comes down to one, maybe two, maps.

Besides, it's far too easy to have a multiple-person tie going with wins, losses, and head to head. Look at group B. With head to head, Dark, Hurricane, and uThermal are tied with one loss and one win to each other. It thus goes to map score, and we have the same result.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
March 02 2018 08:37 GMT
#1194
On March 02 2018 09:18 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?


TY v GuMiHo game 1: TvT in the shape of TvZ
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buffzerg33
Profile Joined May 2017
96 Posts
March 02 2018 09:03 GMT
#1195
2h for group stage day 2 and no topic kappa
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 02 2018 09:39 GMT
#1196
On March 02 2018 09:18 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?

As others posted, Solar vs Dark game 1 was probably the match of the day. Other than that, I can vouch for all other mentioned Solar games here, even though I can't remember which ones were amazing. His games were mostly good to watch, after all.
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