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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
March 01 2018 11:49 GMT
#101
On March 01 2018 20:47 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:43 Ej_ wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:43 Durnuu wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:42 Mun_Su wrote:
will 2 or 3 immortals do goods for Showtime?

What on earth would immortals accomplish?

Planetaries are armored, noob



This


New Raven are strong. I didn't see anything chocking in this game, TY won after 25 min of macro game against Showtime, his win was expected. But if Raven really appear to be too strong they'll probably nerf them (maybe the speed or range of the anti armor missile ? )

TY beating Showtime is definitive proof that the current Raven is completely overpowered
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2660 Posts
March 01 2018 11:49 GMT
#102
On March 01 2018 20:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:45 Morbidius wrote:
''Our goal here is to address feedback that Ravens are only somewhat useful when made in small numbers and become oppressive if massed. Players should now want to make a few Ravens during a game but not have incentive to heavily mass produce Ravens.''

And some people still believe this balance team is competent.

How many ravens did he have there?


Not that many, I dont think he killed anything with missile alone, it was more about that -3 amor raven+3 attack Bc combo
lohdon
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
170 Posts
March 01 2018 11:49 GMT
#103
TY was massively ahead in the economy for a long time while building up a late game army while Showtime kept trying to break him by warping in lots of Stalkers so whining about Ravens only shows you have no understanding of what was going on in this game.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 01 2018 11:49 GMT
#104
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:


oh shit



It was funny cause it looked like old PvT with storm shower crushing terran except that it was emp and missiles shower
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
March 01 2018 11:49 GMT
#105
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit

Yeah, this doesn't help either. Maybe they should buff them so Mana can appreciate they're not as Warhounds
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 01 2018 11:50 GMT
#106
The problems with warhounds was not that it was OP per se (though it was very strong), but more that it was an extremely extremely boring and one-dimensional unit.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 01 2018 11:50 GMT
#107
On March 01 2018 20:49 lohdon wrote:
TY was massively ahead in the economy for a long time while building up a late game army while Showtime kept trying to break him by warping in lots of Stalkers so whining about Ravens only shows you have no understanding of what was going on in this game.

A real GM protoss would advise showtime to ture for 10 more minutes so he's guaranteed to lose to raven/BC.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
March 01 2018 11:51 GMT
#108
On March 01 2018 20:49 lohdon wrote:
TY was massively ahead in the economy for a long time while building up a late game army while Showtime kept trying to break him by warping in lots of Stalkers so whining about Ravens only shows you have no understanding of what was going on in this game.

you don't even need to look at the games. Just looking at the names is enough. TY beating Showtime is the expected outcome, not sure what the complaining is about. If Dark beats Uthermal with BL/Infestor will there be whine too?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 01 2018 11:51 GMT
#109
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit

TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Lokxpr
Profile Joined December 2017
24 Posts
March 01 2018 11:51 GMT
#110
On March 01 2018 20:49 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit



It was funny cause it looked like old PvT with storm shower crushing terran except that it was emp and missiles shower


Thing is you could avoid storms or EMP the templars.... this missile is instant and aoe and lasts for 20 seconds, it's completely broken.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 11:52:26
March 01 2018 11:52 GMT
#111
On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit

TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken.

barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
March 01 2018 11:52 GMT
#112
On March 01 2018 20:51 Lokxpr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:49 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit



It was funny cause it looked like old PvT with storm shower crushing terran except that it was emp and missiles shower


Thing is you could avoid storms or EMP the templars.... this missile is instant and aoe and lasts for 20 seconds, it's completely broken.

it's not instant...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
lohdon
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
170 Posts
March 01 2018 11:52 GMT
#113
On March 01 2018 20:50 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:49 lohdon wrote:
TY was massively ahead in the economy for a long time while building up a late game army while Showtime kept trying to break him by warping in lots of Stalkers so whining about Ravens only shows you have no understanding of what was going on in this game.

A real GM protoss would advise showtime to ture for 10 more minutes so he's guaranteed to lose to raven/BC.


It was Showtimes decision to let TY get into that position uncontested.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
March 01 2018 11:53 GMT
#114
On March 01 2018 20:52 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit

TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken.

barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL.

TIL Showtime should be able to come close to beating TY
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
March 01 2018 11:53 GMT
#115
On March 01 2018 20:50 Pandain wrote:
The problems with warhounds was not that it was OP per se (though it was very strong), but more that it was an extremely extremely boring and one-dimensional unit.

It was OP AF. In its design, in its power, in its speed.

I don't understand how that unit survived inner testing(well... ).

And yes, people would find a way eventually, but boy this unit was nowhere near current Ravens.It's like comparing a forest fire with the Sun. Sure, both are strong and dangerous things, but on a different scale
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 01 2018 11:53 GMT
#116
On March 01 2018 20:52 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit

TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken.

barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL.

Why should TY be worried at any point against code B protoss players?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
March 01 2018 11:53 GMT
#117
On March 01 2018 20:53 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:52 Durnuu wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit

TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken.

barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL.

TIL Showtime should be able to come close to beating TY

This is not what I said, but go ahead and keep dismissing the points by bringing up this shitty argument.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
March 01 2018 11:53 GMT
#118
On March 01 2018 20:53 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:52 Durnuu wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit

TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken.

barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL.

Why should TY be worried at any point against code B protoss players?

Where did I say he should ? You're the one that said he "barely won".
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Lokxpr
Profile Joined December 2017
24 Posts
March 01 2018 11:54 GMT
#119
On March 01 2018 20:52 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 20:51 Lokxpr wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:49 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_MaNa/status/969175457714327552

oh shit



It was funny cause it looked like old PvT with storm shower crushing terran except that it was emp and missiles shower


Thing is you could avoid storms or EMP the templars.... this missile is instant and aoe and lasts for 20 seconds, it's completely broken.

it's not instant...


yes it is, once used you can't avoid it and it's super quick
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 01 2018 11:54 GMT
#120
Round 1 not looking great for foreigners.

Dear 2-0 Special
TY 2-0 Showtime

Games weren't particularly close.
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