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On March 01 2018 20:47 Mun_Su wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:43 Ej_ wrote:On March 01 2018 20:43 Durnuu wrote:On March 01 2018 20:42 Mun_Su wrote:
will 2 or 3 immortals do goods for Showtime? What on earth would immortals accomplish? Planetaries are armored, noob This  New Raven are strong. I didn't see anything chocking in this game, TY won after 25 min of macro game against Showtime, his win was expected. But if Raven really appear to be too strong they'll probably nerf them (maybe the speed or range of the anti armor missile ? )
TY beating Showtime is definitive proof that the current Raven is completely overpowered
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On March 01 2018 20:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:45 Morbidius wrote:
''Our goal here is to address feedback that Ravens are only somewhat useful when made in small numbers and become oppressive if massed. Players should now want to make a few Ravens during a game but not have incentive to heavily mass produce Ravens.''
And some people still believe this balance team is competent. How many ravens did he have there?
Not that many, I dont think he killed anything with missile alone, it was more about that -3 amor raven+3 attack Bc combo
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TY was massively ahead in the economy for a long time while building up a late game army while Showtime kept trying to break him by warping in lots of Stalkers so whining about Ravens only shows you have no understanding of what was going on in this game.
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On March 01 2018 20:47 Musicus wrote:
oh shit
It was funny cause it looked like old PvT with storm shower crushing terran except that it was emp and missiles shower
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Yeah, this doesn't help either. Maybe they should buff them so Mana can appreciate they're not as Warhounds
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The problems with warhounds was not that it was OP per se (though it was very strong), but more that it was an extremely extremely boring and one-dimensional unit.
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On March 01 2018 20:49 lohdon wrote:
TY was massively ahead in the economy for a long time while building up a late game army while Showtime kept trying to break him by warping in lots of Stalkers so whining about Ravens only shows you have no understanding of what was going on in this game.
A real GM protoss would advise showtime to ture for 10 more minutes so he's guaranteed to lose to raven/BC.
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On March 01 2018 20:49 lohdon wrote:
TY was massively ahead in the economy for a long time while building up a late game army while Showtime kept trying to break him by warping in lots of Stalkers so whining about Ravens only shows you have no understanding of what was going on in this game.
you don't even need to look at the games. Just looking at the names is enough. TY beating Showtime is the expected outcome, not sure what the complaining is about. If Dark beats Uthermal with BL/Infestor will there be whine too?
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TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken.
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On March 01 2018 20:49 Mun_Su wrote:It was funny cause it looked like old PvT with storm shower crushing terran except that it was emp and missiles shower
Thing is you could avoid storms or EMP the templars.... this missile is instant and aoe and lasts for 20 seconds, it's completely broken.
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On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken.
barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL.
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On March 01 2018 20:51 Lokxpr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:49 Mun_Su wrote:It was funny cause it looked like old PvT with storm shower crushing terran except that it was emp and missiles shower Thing is you could avoid storms or EMP the templars.... this missile is instant and aoe and lasts for 20 seconds, it's completely broken.
it's not instant...
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On March 01 2018 20:50 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:49 lohdon wrote:
TY was massively ahead in the economy for a long time while building up a late game army while Showtime kept trying to break him by warping in lots of Stalkers so whining about Ravens only shows you have no understanding of what was going on in this game. A real GM protoss would advise showtime to ture for 10 more minutes so he's guaranteed to lose to raven/BC.
It was Showtimes decision to let TY get into that position uncontested.
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On March 01 2018 20:52 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken. barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL.
TIL Showtime should be able to come close to beating TY
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On March 01 2018 20:50 Pandain wrote:
The problems with warhounds was not that it was OP per se (though it was very strong), but more that it was an extremely extremely boring and one-dimensional unit.
It was OP AF. In its design, in its power, in its speed.
I don't understand how that unit survived inner testing(well... ).
And yes, people would find a way eventually, but boy this unit was nowhere near current Ravens.It's like comparing a forest fire with the Sun. Sure, both are strong and dangerous things, but on a different scale
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On March 01 2018 20:52 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken. barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL.
Why should TY be worried at any point against code B protoss players?
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On March 01 2018 20:53 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:52 Durnuu wrote:On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken. barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL. TIL Showtime should be able to come close to beating TY
This is not what I said, but go ahead and keep dismissing the points by bringing up this shitty argument.
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On March 01 2018 20:53 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:52 Durnuu wrote:On March 01 2018 20:51 Morbidius wrote:TY barely wins while being 3 bases ahead, the race is certainly broken. barely wins = wasn't even close to losing at a single point in the game. TIL. Why should TY be worried at any point against code B protoss players?
Where did I say he should ? You're the one that said he "barely won".
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On March 01 2018 20:52 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2018 20:51 Lokxpr wrote:On March 01 2018 20:49 Mun_Su wrote:It was funny cause it looked like old PvT with storm shower crushing terran except that it was emp and missiles shower Thing is you could avoid storms or EMP the templars.... this missile is instant and aoe and lasts for 20 seconds, it's completely broken. it's not instant...
yes it is, once used you can't avoid it and it's super quick
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Round 1 not looking great for foreigners.
Dear 2-0 Special
TY 2-0 Showtime
Games weren't particularly close.
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