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[WESG 2017] Europe & CIS Finals - RO12 & RO8

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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2017 19:04 GMT
#1

WESG 2017


Saturday, Nov 25 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Electronic_Sports_Games_2017/Europe_&_CIS

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Format

  • Round-Robin Group Stage:
  • All matches are Best of 3.
  • Top 3 players of each group advance to Playoffs Stage:
  • Player in First place advances directly to Round of 8.
  • Players in Second and Third places play a match for a Round of 8 spot.
  • 12 players Playoffs Stage:
  • Single-elimination Playoffs:
  • All matches are Best of 5 except Finals which are Best of 7.
  • Top 12 players are qualified for the Global Finals.

Group Stage


RO12 Matches
(T)DeMusliM vs (P)NightEnD

(Z)Serral vs (P)Majestic

(Z)Bly vs (Z)Namshar

(Z)Minato vs (P)Rail

RO8 Matches
(Z)Elazer vs (T)DeMusliM / (P)NightEnD

(T)uThermal vs (Z)Serral / (P)Majestic

(P)ShoWTimE vs (Z)Bly / (Z)Namshar

(Z)Nerchio vs (Z)Minato / (P)Rail


Results


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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 24 2017 19:04 GMT
#2
Poll: DeMuslim vs Nightend

DeMuslim Wins (12)
 
75%

Nightend Wins (4)
 
25%

16 total votes

Your vote: DeMuslim vs Nightend

(Vote): DeMuslim Wins
(Vote): Nightend Wins


Poll: Serral vs Majestic

Serral Wins (18)
 
90%

Majestic Wins (2)
 
10%

20 total votes

Your vote: Serral vs Majestic

(Vote): Serral Wins
(Vote): Majestic Wins


Poll: Bly vs Namshar

Bly Wins (13)
 
65%

Namshar Wins (7)
 
35%

20 total votes

Your vote: Bly vs Namshar

(Vote): Bly Wins
(Vote): Namshar Wins


Poll: Minato vs Rail

Minato Wins (10)
 
50%

Rail Wins (10)
 
50%

20 total votes

Your vote: Minato vs Rail

(Vote): Minato Wins
(Vote): Rail Wins


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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
November 24 2017 20:12 GMT
#3
Go Terran since France is dead
TL+ Member
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 24 2017 20:47 GMT
#4
It will be interesting to see if Rail has fixed his issues with handling lurkers. I don't think I've ever seen a player as consistently poor against them as he was versus Bly.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
November 24 2017 21:08 GMT
#5
2 Terrans in round of 12 !!! Nice!
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
November 25 2017 04:47 GMT
#6
How did DeMuslim look against Protoss? I think it's going to be a close series between the two?
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
November 25 2017 09:50 GMT
#7
Gooood morning everyone! Looking forward to today. Saw uThermal & Elazer stacking up good at breakfast, they'll be ready to give it their best. With best-of-fives all day today and only one match at a time there's also more time for staff to actually watch & enjoy the matches, so yay
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 25 2017 11:15 GMT
#8
DeMuslim looking sharp.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 25 2017 11:43 GMT
#9
Benjy <33
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
November 25 2017 12:34 GMT
#10
The real question is: are we going to have two ZvZ semifinals lol
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 25 2017 13:16 GMT
#11
On November 25 2017 21:34 Psychobabas wrote:
The real question is: are we going to have two ZvZ semifinals lol

Should be Elazer, Serral, Showtime, Nerchio.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-25 13:42:14
November 25 2017 13:42 GMT
#12
Minato plays with stuffed animals near him ? Looks like I'll be cheering for him :D
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
November 25 2017 14:19 GMT
#13
On November 25 2017 21:34 Psychobabas wrote:
The real question is: are we going to have two ZvZ semifinals lol

After seeing Showtime play against Serral yesterday I can't see Namshar beating him three times.
why even
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
November 25 2017 14:30 GMT
#14
Damn Elazer is ruthless with the short games :o
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
Meeii
Profile Joined July 2015
155 Posts
November 25 2017 14:30 GMT
#15
Well that was fast
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
November 25 2017 14:30 GMT
#16
Yep. That has to hurt.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
November 25 2017 14:31 GMT
#17
This was as good a beatdown as Dark vs Neeb in Blizzcon 2016
I guess Elazer took Dark's powers when he beat him this year
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 25 2017 14:44 GMT
#18
On November 25 2017 21:34 Psychobabas wrote:
The real question is: are we going to have two ZvZ semifinals lol


Possibility is very big
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 25 2017 14:53 GMT
#19
Serral got rekt.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
November 25 2017 14:56 GMT
#20
Shitty ravager build hype
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 25 2017 15:01 GMT
#21
On November 25 2017 23:56 Durnuu wrote:
Shitty ravager build hype

The legend says, sometimes the T goes CC first and loses
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
November 25 2017 15:26 GMT
#22
why are EU Terrans still behind the other races?
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 25 2017 15:41 GMT
#23
That one tumour is destroying uthermal
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
November 25 2017 15:42 GMT
#24
On November 26 2017 00:41 DBooN wrote:
That one tumour is destroying uthermal

OR IS IT?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 25 2017 15:43 GMT
#25
On November 26 2017 00:42 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 00:41 DBooN wrote:
That one tumour is destroying uthermal

OR IS IT?

Well, did he destroy the tumour?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
November 25 2017 15:45 GMT
#26
On November 26 2017 00:43 DBooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 00:42 Elentos wrote:
On November 26 2017 00:41 DBooN wrote:
That one tumour is destroying uthermal

OR IS IT?

Well, did he destroy the tumour?

He spared it to give Serral hope.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 25 2017 15:49 GMT
#27
Hope for Finland.
Hyvaa Suomi.
kiss kiss fall in love
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 25 2017 15:50 GMT
#28
8 drones killed by a cloaked banshee despite a 4 minute lair...
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 25 2017 15:50 GMT
#29
this is more fun than amoving a marine train across the map
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
November 25 2017 15:53 GMT
#30
No sensor tower
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
November 25 2017 15:54 GMT
#31
Oh thank god, Serral.
why even
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
November 25 2017 15:56 GMT
#32
Serral is an amazing player and I don't want to belittle his victory, but I believe that mech has simply no answer to that heavy hydra drop style, just not enough mobility.
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
November 25 2017 15:58 GMT
#33
Serral vs Elazer tomorrow is going to be brutal.
starcraft2.fi
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 25 2017 16:08 GMT
#34
Finnish hope vs. Polish zerg.

What a vicious matchup.
kiss kiss fall in love
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
November 25 2017 16:10 GMT
#35
On November 26 2017 01:08 intotheheart wrote:
Finnish hope vs. Polish zerg.

What a vicious matchup.

Finnish ryökäle*
why even
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 25 2017 16:11 GMT
#36
On November 26 2017 00:26 Zzoram wrote:
why are EU Terrans still behind the other races?

Because mech hasn't been consistently viable. (has it ever been viable outside of specific cheeses/all ins against Protoss?) If it had been, aspiring Terran pros could have started with the mechanically less demanding style and still do decently in tournaments while practicing the more mechanically demanding style until they were masters at both.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 25 2017 16:18 GMT
#37
Showtime looks so strong!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 25 2017 16:38 GMT
#38
Storm on the fungaled interceptors
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
November 25 2017 16:39 GMT
#39
bzzzzzzzzzzzz
I Protoss winner, could it be?
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 25 2017 16:40 GMT
#40
I thought the new ITs were supposed to be super broken? Why didnt he use them?
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
November 25 2017 16:43 GMT
#41
On November 26 2017 01:40 DBooN wrote:
I thought the new ITs were supposed to be super broken? Why didnt he use them?

1- they are too expensive when you are barely holding
2- Smart protoss players just recalls out when they they see IT eggs , and come back and kill zerg without infestor energy
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-25 17:12:49
November 25 2017 17:11 GMT
#42
On November 26 2017 01:43 Aegwynn wrote:
2- Smart protoss players just recalls out when they they see IT eggs , and come back and kill zerg without infestor energy

That only works if the Zerg player blows all their load the second they see the Protoss army. If each infestor only casts the spell once, the Infestors will have regenerated the energy by the time the next engagement happens. (25 energy takes approximately 30 seconds to regen)
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2393 Posts
November 25 2017 17:20 GMT
#43
On November 26 2017 02:11 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 01:43 Aegwynn wrote:
2- Smart protoss players just recalls out when they they see IT eggs , and come back and kill zerg without infestor energy

That only works if the Zerg player blows all their load the second they see the Protoss army. If each infestor only casts the spell once, the Infestors will have regenerated the energy by the time the next engagement happens. (25 energy takes approximately 30 seconds to regen)

ill ask the next zerg i see with 2500 apm to try this
Progamer
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 25 2017 17:32 GMT
#44
On November 26 2017 02:20 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 02:11 Boggyb wrote:
On November 26 2017 01:43 Aegwynn wrote:
2- Smart protoss players just recalls out when they they see IT eggs , and come back and kill zerg without infestor energy

That only works if the Zerg player blows all their load the second they see the Protoss army. If each infestor only casts the spell once, the Infestors will have regenerated the energy by the time the next engagement happens. (25 energy takes approximately 30 seconds to regen)

ill ask the next zerg i see with 2500 apm to try this

I can confirm it works.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 25 2017 17:33 GMT
#45
On November 26 2017 02:32 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 02:20 Scarlett` wrote:
On November 26 2017 02:11 Boggyb wrote:
On November 26 2017 01:43 Aegwynn wrote:
2- Smart protoss players just recalls out when they they see IT eggs , and come back and kill zerg without infestor energy

That only works if the Zerg player blows all their load the second they see the Protoss army. If each infestor only casts the spell once, the Infestors will have regenerated the energy by the time the next engagement happens. (25 energy takes approximately 30 seconds to regen)

ill ask the next zerg i see with 2500 apm to try this

I can confirm it works.

Can confirm Ej's done it before. Was a beautiful night.
kiss kiss fall in love
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
November 25 2017 17:33 GMT
#46
On November 26 2017 02:11 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2017 01:43 Aegwynn wrote:
2- Smart protoss players just recalls out when they they see IT eggs , and come back and kill zerg without infestor energy

That only works if the Zerg player blows all their load the second they see the Protoss army. If each infestor only casts the spell once, the Infestors will have regenerated the energy by the time the next engagement happens. (25 energy takes approximately 30 seconds to regen)

One IT for each infestor would be 10-13 infested terrans which protoss army crush in a second. Zerg has to spam at least like 25 infested terrans or none at all. Also, 30 seconds is a really long time in lotv.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
November 25 2017 17:34 GMT
#47
I've really enjoyed watching the few games I've been able to watch so far, the casting and production value of this tournament so far has been solid (again of the little I've seen).

Which is very good given for some of the free-to-play joiners to the scene it may very well be their first tournament viewing experience.
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
November 26 2017 00:26 GMT
#48
It is much better made than last year. They learned some lessons. However a lot of things could be easily improved.
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