• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:27
CEST 23:27
KST 06:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)69ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo31Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Mizenhauer's Douyu Cup Preview ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BW General Discussion Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8634 users

[WCS 2017] Global Finals - Day 1 - Page 3

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 94 95 96 Next
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 23 2017 23:52 GMT
#41
On October 24 2017 08:50 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 07:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
We can discuss how Rogue will win the whole thing, for starters. That's meaningful

Not really. He'll do it by ending the group stage with at least 4 wins, the quarterfinals with 3, the semifinals with 3, and the finals with 4. So he'll win the whole thing by winning either 14 or 15 games.

You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
October 23 2017 23:56 GMT
#42
If Rolltide discovers this thread we might get a lot of posts quickly
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 24 2017 00:06 GMT
#43
On October 24 2017 08:56 Charoisaur wrote:
If Rolltide discovers this thread we might get a lot of posts quickly

Because he's the triple-posting hero TL deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 24 2017 00:07 GMT
#44
Anyone can triple post as long as they believe in themselves.

Anyone.
kiss kiss fall in love
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 24 2017 00:13 GMT
#45
On October 24 2017 08:56 Charoisaur wrote:
If Rolltide discovers this thread we might get a lot of posts quickly


We'd get a burst of posts and then a ban. Generally I find that mods are asleep around 07:00 GMT (+00:00) though, so if properly timed it might work.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10120 Posts
October 24 2017 00:13 GMT
#46
On October 24 2017 08:14 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 07:18 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
It was 1000 pages but we did it over 3 weeks.

And even if he loses to Neeb, he can beat soO. It's kind of a shame that the 3 players I most want to win are all in the same group

We did it over 3 weeks while GumBa was at his peak.

there was even a ranking based on words a pictures
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 24 2017 00:19 GMT
#47
On October 24 2017 09:06 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 08:56 Charoisaur wrote:
If Rolltide discovers this thread we might get a lot of posts quickly

Because he's the triple-posting hero TL deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

He's like a new Cricketer12.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 24 2017 00:21 GMT
#48
On October 24 2017 09:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 08:56 Charoisaur wrote:
If Rolltide discovers this thread we might get a lot of posts quickly


We'd get a burst of posts and then a ban. Generally I find that mods are asleep around 07:00 GMT (+00:00) though, so if properly timed it might work.

Down to try but they'd probably just close the thread until games start.

That being said they'd close it for like... 3 days.
kiss kiss fall in love
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 24 2017 00:44 GMT
#49
So pumped for this. Does Blizzcon happen after this?
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 24 2017 00:47 GMT
#50
How many times are we going to see Abyssal Reef on Thursday? With 6 series, I'm going to say 6 times.

What's the average game length going to be for TY Snute? I'd set the O/U at 20 minutes and consider betting the over.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 24 2017 00:53 GMT
#51
On October 24 2017 09:47 Boggyb wrote:
How many times are we going to see Abyssal Reef on Thursday? With 6 series, I'm going to say 6 times.

What's the average game length going to be for TY Snute? I'd set the O/U at 20 minutes and consider betting the over.


Will we see Interloper or Catallena at any point before the finals?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 24 2017 00:55 GMT
#52
WOw this thread is 2 early plz close
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
October 24 2017 00:58 GMT
#53
On October 24 2017 09:47 Boggyb wrote:
How many times are we going to see Abyssal Reef on Thursday? With 6 series, I'm going to say 6 times.

What's the average game length going to be for TY Snute? I'd set the O/U at 20 minutes and consider betting the over.


Tons!!!! Mainly because I think it'll be the last tournament to use it (It's had a good year!) so I figure it'll retire. Give it a good retirement party!

Hoping for the Snute win, how can you not root for him!
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 01:12:53
October 24 2017 01:11 GMT
#54
On October 24 2017 09:47 Boggyb wrote:
How many times are we going to see Abyssal Reef on Thursday? With 6 series, I'm going to say 6 times.

What's the average game length going to be for TY Snute? I'd set the O/U at 20 minutes and consider betting the over.


I doubt we'll see Abyssal Reef quite that often. We have 6 series and we will see 2 or 3 maps for each of them. Popularity-wise the maps go Abyssal > A2A > Odyssey > Mech Depot >> Acolyte > Interloper >>> Catallena, but Abyssal isn't that much more popular than A2A or Odyssey.

If I had to bet I'd bet on 4 games on Abyssal Reef (one of them due to Abyssal being the third map in a 2-0 bo3, and one of them due to it not being picked during a PvT).
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 01:16:37
October 24 2017 01:15 GMT
#55
does anyone really think Nerchio will get out? i see almost no hope for him

also we should see if we can get some ban bets going to build some additional hype
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 24 2017 01:17 GMT
#56
On October 24 2017 09:53 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 09:47 Boggyb wrote:
How many times are we going to see Abyssal Reef on Thursday? With 6 series, I'm going to say 6 times.

What's the average game length going to be for TY Snute? I'd set the O/U at 20 minutes and consider betting the over.


Will we see Interloper or Catallena at any point before the finals?

Will we even see either in the finals? If the finals are a 4-0 or 4-1, I'd say there is a pretty decent chance we see neither.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 24 2017 01:18 GMT
#57
On October 24 2017 10:15 starkiller123 wrote:
does anyone really think Nerchio will get out? i see almost no hope for him

also we should see if we can get some ban bets going to build some additional hype

EJJJJJ
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 24 2017 01:32 GMT
#58
Thinking of the WCS Global Finals being decided by a game on either Interloper or Catallena makes me wish the map pool were 2 maps larger. Yeah, choosing something like Frost or Whirlwind would give us maps we've seen a million times, but we are going to see the same few maps over and over. If Blizzard wanted to keep the pool smallish to be easier for the players to prepare, they could just swap those 2 out.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 24 2017 01:39 GMT
#59
On October 24 2017 10:32 Boggyb wrote:
Thinking of the WCS Global Finals being decided by a game on either Interloper or Catallena makes me wish the map pool were 2 maps larger. Yeah, choosing something like Frost or Whirlwind would give us maps we've seen a million times, but we are going to see the same few maps over and over. If Blizzard wanted to keep the pool smallish to be easier for the players to prepare, they could just swap those 2 out.


Which is why we should have a ladder pool of size 11 (or 9 or 13) and make tournament map pools a subset of that pool. Tournaments could thus avoid maps that are failures, and also have some leeway to select a balanced pool.

Also I don't think Frost or Whirlwind would fix anything, since they're pretty bad. Whirlwind was part of the super tournament pool and was vetoed a ton.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 24 2017 01:52 GMT
#60
On October 24 2017 10:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 10:32 Boggyb wrote:
Thinking of the WCS Global Finals being decided by a game on either Interloper or Catallena makes me wish the map pool were 2 maps larger. Yeah, choosing something like Frost or Whirlwind would give us maps we've seen a million times, but we are going to see the same few maps over and over. If Blizzard wanted to keep the pool smallish to be easier for the players to prepare, they could just swap those 2 out.


Which is why we should have a ladder pool of size 11 (or 9 or 13) and make tournament map pools a subset of that pool. Tournaments could thus avoid maps that are failures, and also have some leeway to select a balanced pool.

Also I don't think Frost or Whirlwind would fix anything, since they're pretty bad. Whirlwind was part of the super tournament pool and was vetoed a ton.

A larger ladder pool would be better though of course if you only use a subset, you'll likely have players complain that the maps which blatantly favor their race are not included.

I mentioned Frost and Whirlwind since they have been included in the map pools of recent Korean tournaments and are ones most pros have played a million times. There are probably dozens of more interesting maps that could be chosen.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 94 95 96 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 34m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 797
ZombieGrub210
ViBE48
EmSc Tv 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 126
MaD[AoV]14
League of Legends
JimRising 697
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken23
Other Games
summit1g9921
Grubby3842
FrodaN2882
shahzam550
Liquid`Hasu210
ArmadaUGS154
KnowMe154
Nina36
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2904
StarCraft 2
angryscii 40
EmSc Tv 34
EmSc2Tv 34
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV511
League of Legends
• Scarra1115
Other Games
• Shiphtur160
Upcoming Events
Douyu Cup 2020
7h 34m
Maestros of the Game
15h 4m
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
16h 34m
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 7h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 16h
Online Event
1d 17h
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
Bombastic Starleague
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
OSC
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Bombastic Starleague
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSCL: Masked Kings S4
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.