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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 23 2017 23:52 GMT
#41
On October 24 2017 08:50 Boggyb wrote:
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On October 24 2017 07:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
We can discuss how Rogue will win the whole thing, for starters. That's meaningful

Not really. He'll do it by ending the group stage with at least 4 wins, the quarterfinals with 3, the semifinals with 3, and the finals with 4. So he'll win the whole thing by winning either 14 or 15 games.

You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15955 Posts
October 23 2017 23:56 GMT
#42
If Rolltide discovers this thread we might get a lot of posts quickly
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 24 2017 00:06 GMT
#43
On October 24 2017 08:56 Charoisaur wrote:
If Rolltide discovers this thread we might get a lot of posts quickly

Because he's the triple-posting hero TL deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 24 2017 00:07 GMT
#44
Anyone can triple post as long as they believe in themselves.

Anyone.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 24 2017 00:13 GMT
#45
On October 24 2017 08:56 Charoisaur wrote:
If Rolltide discovers this thread we might get a lot of posts quickly


We'd get a burst of posts and then a ban. Generally I find that mods are asleep around 07:00 GMT (+00:00) though, so if properly timed it might work.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10076 Posts
October 24 2017 00:13 GMT
#46
On October 24 2017 08:14 intotheheart wrote:
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On October 24 2017 07:18 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
It was 1000 pages but we did it over 3 weeks.

And even if he loses to Neeb, he can beat soO. It's kind of a shame that the 3 players I most want to win are all in the same group

We did it over 3 weeks while GumBa was at his peak.

there was even a ranking based on words a pictures
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 24 2017 00:19 GMT
#47
On October 24 2017 09:06 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 08:56 Charoisaur wrote:
If Rolltide discovers this thread we might get a lot of posts quickly

Because he's the triple-posting hero TL deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

He's like a new Cricketer12.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 24 2017 00:21 GMT
#48
On October 24 2017 09:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 08:56 Charoisaur wrote:
If Rolltide discovers this thread we might get a lot of posts quickly


We'd get a burst of posts and then a ban. Generally I find that mods are asleep around 07:00 GMT (+00:00) though, so if properly timed it might work.

Down to try but they'd probably just close the thread until games start.

That being said they'd close it for like... 3 days.
kiss kiss fall in love
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 24 2017 00:44 GMT
#49
So pumped for this. Does Blizzcon happen after this?
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 24 2017 00:47 GMT
#50
How many times are we going to see Abyssal Reef on Thursday? With 6 series, I'm going to say 6 times.

What's the average game length going to be for TY Snute? I'd set the O/U at 20 minutes and consider betting the over.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 24 2017 00:53 GMT
#51
On October 24 2017 09:47 Boggyb wrote:
How many times are we going to see Abyssal Reef on Thursday? With 6 series, I'm going to say 6 times.

What's the average game length going to be for TY Snute? I'd set the O/U at 20 minutes and consider betting the over.


Will we see Interloper or Catallena at any point before the finals?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 24 2017 00:55 GMT
#52
WOw this thread is 2 early plz close
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
October 24 2017 00:58 GMT
#53
On October 24 2017 09:47 Boggyb wrote:
How many times are we going to see Abyssal Reef on Thursday? With 6 series, I'm going to say 6 times.

What's the average game length going to be for TY Snute? I'd set the O/U at 20 minutes and consider betting the over.


Tons!!!! Mainly because I think it'll be the last tournament to use it (It's had a good year!) so I figure it'll retire. Give it a good retirement party!

Hoping for the Snute win, how can you not root for him!
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 01:12:53
October 24 2017 01:11 GMT
#54
On October 24 2017 09:47 Boggyb wrote:
How many times are we going to see Abyssal Reef on Thursday? With 6 series, I'm going to say 6 times.

What's the average game length going to be for TY Snute? I'd set the O/U at 20 minutes and consider betting the over.


I doubt we'll see Abyssal Reef quite that often. We have 6 series and we will see 2 or 3 maps for each of them. Popularity-wise the maps go Abyssal > A2A > Odyssey > Mech Depot >> Acolyte > Interloper >>> Catallena, but Abyssal isn't that much more popular than A2A or Odyssey.

If I had to bet I'd bet on 4 games on Abyssal Reef (one of them due to Abyssal being the third map in a 2-0 bo3, and one of them due to it not being picked during a PvT).
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 01:16:37
October 24 2017 01:15 GMT
#55
does anyone really think Nerchio will get out? i see almost no hope for him

also we should see if we can get some ban bets going to build some additional hype
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 24 2017 01:17 GMT
#56
On October 24 2017 09:53 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 09:47 Boggyb wrote:
How many times are we going to see Abyssal Reef on Thursday? With 6 series, I'm going to say 6 times.

What's the average game length going to be for TY Snute? I'd set the O/U at 20 minutes and consider betting the over.


Will we see Interloper or Catallena at any point before the finals?

Will we even see either in the finals? If the finals are a 4-0 or 4-1, I'd say there is a pretty decent chance we see neither.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 24 2017 01:18 GMT
#57
On October 24 2017 10:15 starkiller123 wrote:
does anyone really think Nerchio will get out? i see almost no hope for him

also we should see if we can get some ban bets going to build some additional hype

EJJJJJ
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 24 2017 01:32 GMT
#58
Thinking of the WCS Global Finals being decided by a game on either Interloper or Catallena makes me wish the map pool were 2 maps larger. Yeah, choosing something like Frost or Whirlwind would give us maps we've seen a million times, but we are going to see the same few maps over and over. If Blizzard wanted to keep the pool smallish to be easier for the players to prepare, they could just swap those 2 out.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 24 2017 01:39 GMT
#59
On October 24 2017 10:32 Boggyb wrote:
Thinking of the WCS Global Finals being decided by a game on either Interloper or Catallena makes me wish the map pool were 2 maps larger. Yeah, choosing something like Frost or Whirlwind would give us maps we've seen a million times, but we are going to see the same few maps over and over. If Blizzard wanted to keep the pool smallish to be easier for the players to prepare, they could just swap those 2 out.


Which is why we should have a ladder pool of size 11 (or 9 or 13) and make tournament map pools a subset of that pool. Tournaments could thus avoid maps that are failures, and also have some leeway to select a balanced pool.

Also I don't think Frost or Whirlwind would fix anything, since they're pretty bad. Whirlwind was part of the super tournament pool and was vetoed a ton.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 24 2017 01:52 GMT
#60
On October 24 2017 10:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 10:32 Boggyb wrote:
Thinking of the WCS Global Finals being decided by a game on either Interloper or Catallena makes me wish the map pool were 2 maps larger. Yeah, choosing something like Frost or Whirlwind would give us maps we've seen a million times, but we are going to see the same few maps over and over. If Blizzard wanted to keep the pool smallish to be easier for the players to prepare, they could just swap those 2 out.


Which is why we should have a ladder pool of size 11 (or 9 or 13) and make tournament map pools a subset of that pool. Tournaments could thus avoid maps that are failures, and also have some leeway to select a balanced pool.

Also I don't think Frost or Whirlwind would fix anything, since they're pretty bad. Whirlwind was part of the super tournament pool and was vetoed a ton.

A larger ladder pool would be better though of course if you only use a subset, you'll likely have players complain that the maps which blatantly favor their race are not included.

I mentioned Frost and Whirlwind since they have been included in the map pools of recent Korean tournaments and are ones most pros have played a million times. There are probably dozens of more interesting maps that could be chosen.
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