EPT[LRTL] Live Report Team League - Page 26
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On December 11 2017 20:29 Musicus wrote: Just a heads up, I won't be able to play between the 21st and new year since the house will be full with family. I won't have my room with my PC. There will be Holiday break definitely, so many people have already saif something similar. I myself will be in Kuwait from 22 Dec to 3 Jan  Essentially my goal us to get one week played this year, which should be feasible, even though it will be slightly faster than the 14 day window people prefer. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On December 11 2017 02:13 intotheheart wrote: Poll: What map styles do you want to use? Mixture of the above (we'll vote in fun/good legacy maps (6) Current ladder rotation (for standard games) (5) Old school shit (WoL beta-era maps) (2) Weird stuff (current LRTL maps) (0) All-time great maps with reasonable winrates? (0) 13 total votes Your vote: What map styles do you want to use? (Vote): Old school shit (WoL beta-era maps) We need to decide on a map rotation set, please feel free to make your own recommendations and suggestions. Of note: if we use the all-time all-star maps, the winrates would be based on their patches, not whether they'd play well in LotV. Poll: How do we handle teams? Redraft (8) Shuffle (4) 12 total votes Your vote: How do we handle teams? What I mean by redraft: + Show Spoiler + Top (or bottom) 4 MMR players become captains, draft all teams from scratch. I think the disparity in playing skill between teams is enough to consider this option. What is meant by shuffle: + Show Spoiler + Opisska has a table of rough MMRs of every player, and is willing to shuffle teams to force a relatively even playing field. the reshuffled would be statsboys: 31 railgan GM 10 elentos/inf M3 7 seeker D1 6 viper D3 4 phred D3 4 dinosaurs: 29 poopi M1 9 artyk M2 8 golo D2 5 solar424 D2 5 intotheheart P2 2 twice: 30 luolis M1 9 olli 2018 M2 8 kashim/ej D1 6 argonauta D3 6 cricketer G? 1 totally: 31 durn M1 9 inflicted/ele M3 7 Ej/kashim D1 6 musicus D2 5 opisska D3 4 Poll: Playing time? Move each match to a 14-day cycle (8) Move more quickly and keep the 7-day cycle (4) 12 total votes Your vote: Playing time? (Vote): Move each match to a 14-day cycle 14-day cycle proposal: + Show Spoiler + Captains are given maps immediately, given 3 days to come up with a roster, players are then given a week to play, and then the caster has 4 days to cast. Then we move on More efficient 7-day cycle proposal: + Show Spoiler + We keep the same 7-day thing, but maps are released right after the stream. Gives everyone a bit more time to play their matches. Poll: Players playing more than one game? Yes (5) No (5) 10 total votes Your vote: Players playing more than one game? What this means: + Show Spoiler + A player can be fielded more than once per game, but cannot do this more than once a round. So if ith gets fielded twice (because my captain had a stroke), ith can't do this again this round. Furthermore, ith is not the ace player for that match as well. I would be allowed to be the ace in the next match, if my captain's stroke didn't go away. The spirit of this policy is to let some teams have an easier time fielding players, if too many people are too busy. Poll: Players Shuffling? Yes (10) No (1) 11 total votes Your vote: Players Shuffling? + Show Spoiler + The captains would be allowed to change players for certain maps depending on the needs of the game. It's often not fun for a player to go up against someone significantly better, and while this would do away with some of the blind picks of the games, it'd also make the league a bit better balanced, so captains can't throw their weakest players under the bus. It would hopefully make games individually better, as the hope is for matches to have a smaller MMR gap between them. Regardless of shuffle or redraft, all teams have 5 players who said they would be available, so matches are Bo5. For anyone who might've missed it the first time around. Opisska, it's even worse when you consider we're supposed to be people who LIVE on threads. On December 11 2017 20:21 Olli wrote: Vote reasonable maps please! I mean, I just wanted to know if people wanted to play on good maps, or hilarious shit like Kulas Ravine. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On December 11 2017 23:02 intotheheart wrote: For anyone who might've missed it the first time around. Opisska, it's even worse when you consider we're supposed to be people who LIVE on threads. I mean, I just wanted to know if people wanted to play on good maps, or hilarious shit like Kulas Ravine. We already talked about this. Discord killed our tl posting | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
1. A round has 3 weeks, where a week takes roughly 14 days (yes, I am on a power trip to redefine the world "week", deal with it). Map order is shown immediately upon conclusion of the previous week or a break and then captains have typically (barring unforeseen circumstances that are bound to happen every other week) three days to submit lineups. The captains need to be available around the deadline so that we can properly apply rule 3. 2. A lineup consists of four names in order of the maps presented to the teams. One name can appear on a lineup twice - this is the "twice-fielded" player. An individual player can be "twice-fielded" only once per round, but a team may "twice-field" a different player every week. A "twice-fielded" player cannot be the ace of that week, but can be the ace of any other week. A team can chose to not "twice-field" of course. 3. After the lineup are revealed, for each match, I will ask one captain if they wish to submit a switch of two of their players with each other in the lineup, change the lineup accordingly and then ask the other captain (blindly paralell switch is pointless). Only such switch is possible so that the the combined difference in MMR decreases. For these purposes, the pre-round MMR table, which we collected and will publish, will be used. For this purpose, I ask the captains to be available at least intermittently during the day of the reveal. Any time lost during this phase will be taken from the "play the games" phase. 4. After the lineups are finally fixed, players have typically 7 days to arrange the games and play (the deadline will be given specifically each time). For each map, BOTH players are required to actively try to contact the other player. We WILL give walkovers for inactivity. Alternatively, the players can arrange with the casting team to have their games played live. However bear in mind that you are not entitled to having a live play catered to your time needs and should you not reach an agreement, it is still your responsibility to play the games within the period stated. I am aware that this sounds little bit anti-fun, but the most anti-fun thing in the league is people ignoring their games. We hope that this topic never becomes relevant anyway! I still hope we can draft the teams tomorrow evening - LIVE ON DURN'S STREAM - let's see if we can actually get some captains before then! edit: fuck me, already editing, 3 weeks of course, not 4. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Have each capt select 1. Ith and Opisska select 1 each for being new tournament advisors. Then poll everyone else for last map. So we have a cycle of 7 maps, which is perfect as the final playoffs will be a Bo7. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
Because of our inability to get the top 4 in a timely manner, we will do a slightly unusual bottom 4 draft. The tentative time is: Tomorrow, Dec 12 at 7 pm CET on Durn's stream. The draft will be super fair, starting from the weakest, then in "snake path" until teams are filled. Additionally, each captain will pick a map. Captains are no other than the sc2 stars the_red_viper, Cricketer12, intotheheart and yours truly piss. Don't forget to tune in for the epic picking strategy and a chancr to hear my voice for the first time. Also viper's, so we can try to analyze his accent!!! | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
What happens when the worst players get all the power? When the absolute noobs get to decide everything? Learn that - and much more - in just a couple of hours! Today, 18:00 GMT (+00:00) at /www.twitch.tv/durn__ Will the perfect logical order of the magic MMR prevail, or will emotions get the best of the wannabe captains? 16 players to pick from, noone is safe, no matter how much they resist, no matter how much they don't want to, they are gonna be drafted! | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
Each captain (myself theredviper intotheheart and opisska) has the opportunity to select a map that get directly into the pool. The remaining three maps will be selected by all of you! Please pm me a map you would like to see, and I will make a strawpoll. Top 3 maps get into the pool. | ||
Poopi
France12904 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/Z9g07ft.png) My team is obviously OP, but I have promised to play Railgan rather less frequently. Sorry man, you are just tooooo goooood for the league and we couldn't find a well balanced answer otherwise. But you'll definitely get some playtime. Thanks to all involved, now we finish the maps and start playing! Also there hopefully will be a VOD, who doesn't want to watch half an hour of spreadsheet editing?! | ||
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
On December 13 2017 03:36 opisska wrote: My team is obviously OP, but I have promised to play Railgan rather less frequently. Sorry man, you are just tooooo goooood for the league and we couldn't find a well balanced answer otherwise. But you'll definitely get some playtime. Thanks to all involved, now we finish the maps and start playing! Also there hopefully will be a VOD, who doesn't want to watch half an hour of spreadsheet editing?! Not to mention the first bit has no sound  | ||
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Luolis
Finland7139 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Is this a new LRTL dissatisfaction record? :O | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
- Wednesday we finalize map pool, start period for lineups - Friday lineups complete - play until Thursday noon or live Thursday evening (Dec 21), casted by Luolis and maybe other people Whhhooooohooooo | ||
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Poopi
France12904 Posts
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