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Can't really relate to what ZG was saying about dogs. All the dogs I or family members or friends owned always showed if they liked it when people were petting them and how.
High class Ping Pong with commentary on the Korean stream
On January 10 2017 21:39 Elentos wrote: Billowy is actually looking pretty impressive today. Mark it in your calendars folks, January 10, 2017, Billowy is playing well.
It's been 1017 days since Billowy all-killed KT. Is it now time for the actual breakout performance with his GSL group coming up tomorrow?
On January 10 2017 21:39 Elentos wrote: Billowy is actually looking pretty impressive today. Mark it in your calendars folks, January 10, 2017, Billowy is playing well.
It's been 1017 days since Billowy all-killed KT. Is it now time for the actual breakout performance with his GSL group coming up tomorrow?
On January 10 2017 21:39 Elentos wrote: Billowy is actually looking pretty impressive today. Mark it in your calendars folks, January 10, 2017, Billowy is playing well.
It's been 1017 days since Billowy all-killed KT. Is it now time for the actual breakout performance with his GSL group coming up tomorrow?
On January 10 2017 22:21 Lil_nooblet wrote: I hate PvT so much. Watching and playing it is a miserable experience.
I'm miserable playing it from the Terran side of things too.
Yeah dying to proxy oracles and pylons probably isn't fun. For me though I constantly die to those stupid liberator mine and tank pushes at my third. Super frustrating to play against.
On January 10 2017 22:21 Lil_nooblet wrote: I hate PvT so much. Watching and playing it is a miserable experience.
I'm miserable playing it from the Terran side of things too.
Yeah dying to proxy oracles and pylons probably isn't fun. For me though I constantly die to those stupid liberator mine and tank pushes at my third. Super frustrating to play against.
I personally really don't enjoy playing abusive stuff like those tank pushes with mines and liberators to the third. So when I do those I'm not having fun. But when I don't do that the games are very exhausting so I'm not having super much fun either. Which is not even taking into account pylon rushes and stuff like that.
TvP is easily the 2nd worst thing about playing Terran.
On January 10 2017 22:21 Lil_nooblet wrote: I hate PvT so much. Watching and playing it is a miserable experience.
I'm miserable playing it from the Terran side of things too.
Yeah dying to proxy oracles and pylons probably isn't fun. For me though I constantly die to those stupid liberator mine and tank pushes at my third. Super frustrating to play against.
I personally really don't enjoy playing abusive stuff like those tank pushes with mines and liberators to the third. So when I do those I'm not having fun. But when I don't do that the games are very exhausting so I'm not having super much fun either. Which is not even taking into account pylon rushes and stuff like that.
TvP is easily the 2nd worst thing about playing Terran.
On January 10 2017 22:21 Lil_nooblet wrote: I hate PvT so much. Watching and playing it is a miserable experience.
I'm miserable playing it from the Terran side of things too.
Yeah dying to proxy oracles and pylons probably isn't fun. For me though I constantly die to those stupid liberator mine and tank pushes at my third. Super frustrating to play against.
I personally really don't enjoy playing abusive stuff like those tank pushes with mines and liberators to the third. So when I do those I'm not having fun. But when I don't do that the games are very exhausting so I'm not having super much fun either. Which is not even taking into account pylon rushes and stuff like that.
TvP is easily the 2nd worst thing about playing Terran.
God is Billowy making it to the finals?
2nd worst? First being tvz right
The worst thing is TvT early game. The 3rd worst thing is TvT doom drops.
On January 10 2017 22:21 Lil_nooblet wrote: I hate PvT so much. Watching and playing it is a miserable experience.
I'm miserable playing it from the Terran side of things too.
Yeah dying to proxy oracles and pylons probably isn't fun. For me though I constantly die to those stupid liberator mine and tank pushes at my third. Super frustrating to play against.
I personally really don't enjoy playing abusive stuff like those tank pushes with mines and liberators to the third. So when I do those I'm not having fun. But when I don't do that the games are very exhausting so I'm not having super much fun either. Which is not even taking into account pylon rushes and stuff like that.
TvP is easily the 2nd worst thing about playing Terran.
God is Billowy making it to the finals?
2nd worst? First being tvz right
The worst thing is TvT early game. The 3rd worst thing is TvT doom drops.
While i know what you are talking about, i really don't get cheesed in TvT a whole lot tbh. I cannot say the same about TvZ though, i die to baneling busts all the time
On January 10 2017 22:21 Lil_nooblet wrote: I hate PvT so much. Watching and playing it is a miserable experience.
I'm miserable playing it from the Terran side of things too.
Yeah dying to proxy oracles and pylons probably isn't fun. For me though I constantly die to those stupid liberator mine and tank pushes at my third. Super frustrating to play against.
I personally really don't enjoy playing abusive stuff like those tank pushes with mines and liberators to the third. So when I do those I'm not having fun. But when I don't do that the games are very exhausting so I'm not having super much fun either. Which is not even taking into account pylon rushes and stuff like that.
TvP is easily the 2nd worst thing about playing Terran.
God is Billowy making it to the finals?
2nd worst? First being tvz right
The worst thing is TvT early game. The 3rd worst thing is TvT doom drops.
While i know what you are talking about, i really don't get cheesed in TvT a whole lot tbh. I cannot say the same about TvZ though, i die to baneling busts all the time
I wasn't even talking about the stupid cheese I never scout in time.
Baneling busts aren't hard to hold if you see them coming. If you don't it's rough.
On January 10 2017 22:21 Lil_nooblet wrote: I hate PvT so much. Watching and playing it is a miserable experience.
I'm miserable playing it from the Terran side of things too.
Yeah dying to proxy oracles and pylons probably isn't fun. For me though I constantly die to those stupid liberator mine and tank pushes at my third. Super frustrating to play against.
I personally really don't enjoy playing abusive stuff like those tank pushes with mines and liberators to the third. So when I do those I'm not having fun. But when I don't do that the games are very exhausting so I'm not having super much fun either. Which is not even taking into account pylon rushes and stuff like that.
TvP is easily the 2nd worst thing about playing Terran.
God is Billowy making it to the finals?
2nd worst? First being tvz right
The worst thing is TvT early game. The 3rd worst thing is TvT doom drops.
While i know what you are talking about, i really don't get cheesed in TvT a whole lot tbh. I cannot say the same about TvZ though, i die to baneling busts all the time
I wasn't even talking about the stupid cheese I never scout in time.
Baneling busts aren't hard to hold if you see them coming. If you don't it's rough.
Yeah i guess my scouting is too bad, when i am opening hellions it's not a big problem but doing the two medivac drop i have a hard time holding it tbh^^
I get what ZombieGrub means, the Zest mass gateway style was cool to watch. But it's just not good now. Mines, liberators, buffed tanks would just make those armies implode.
On January 17 2017 20:37 Elentos wrote: aLive vs Impact and Solar vs INnoVation are happening on the same maps at the same time. In both matches the Terran is blue while the Zerg is red.
On January 17 2017 20:18 Elentos wrote: So that 5 game best of 3 with no stalemates was a thing.
...yes, limitating the map pools has these side effects...
So what happened exactly?
Okay so I'm not sure how exactly this ended up happening, but the Scarlett vs Kelazhur best of 3 took 5 games. The starting map for the Ro32 was meant to be Echo. But before they got to Echo, they played on Newkirk and Vaani.
On January 17 2017 20:18 Elentos wrote: So that 5 game best of 3 with no stalemates was a thing.
...yes, limitating the map pools has these side effects...
So what happened exactly?
...both matches Kelazhur vs Scarlett and Classic vs. KeeN had Vaani or Newkirk played on and Vaani and Newkirk are not on the map pool for the tournament so they had to redo... Kelazhur and Scarlett were already in game 3 when it was noticed...
On January 17 2017 20:18 Elentos wrote: So that 5 game best of 3 with no stalemates was a thing.
...yes, limitating the map pools has these side effects...
So what happened exactly?
...both matches Kelazhur vs Scarlett and Classic vs. KeeN had Vaani or Newkirk played on and Vaani and Newkirk are not on the map pool for the tournament so they had to redo... Kelazhur and Scarlett were already in game 3 when it was noticed...
On January 17 2017 20:18 Elentos wrote: So that 5 game best of 3 with no stalemates was a thing.
...yes, limitating the map pools has these side effects...
So what happened exactly?
...both matches Kelazhur vs Scarlett and Classic vs. KeeN had Vaani or Newkirk played on and Vaani and Newkirk are not on the map pool for the tournament so they had to redo... Kelazhur and Scarlett were already in game 3 when it was noticed...
amazing, no admins during the games i suppose?
...it's weird cause both of the games were streamed, one by BT and one by CranK so...
On January 17 2017 23:40 IntoTheheart wrote: Why would he hide his power level? Are we a shounen battle anime now?
Pretty sure that's what eSports has always been. Either a manga/anime produced by NesTea or a Wrestling promotion owned by TotalBiscuit. One of the two.
On January 18 2017 00:01 Yiome wrote: TY Innovation Maru Byun ALIVE!
We have to remove Innovation now though, that's how ti works
Byun too, 2 straight losses to aLive. He's basically bronze league now.
Yeah you are right. There is basically only TY and alive at this point, david kim pls buff terran
Because if there was anything I needed, it was more TvT on ladder
TvT is still my best matchup, i didn't play much the last few weeks though. TvZ and TvP close to 50% (a bit below actually^^) and my TvT is about 67%
I don't think TvT is my worst winrate yet - which is because there are no Protoss players on EU ladder to boost my TvP with - but it's for sure the matchup I feel the least comfortable playing.
On January 18 2017 00:01 Yiome wrote: TY Innovation Maru Byun ALIVE!
We have to remove Innovation now though, that's how ti works
Byun too, 2 straight losses to aLive. He's basically bronze league now.
Yeah you are right. There is basically only TY and alive at this point, david kim pls buff terran
Because if there was anything I needed, it was more TvT on ladder
TvT is still my best matchup, i didn't play much the last few weeks though. TvZ and TvP close to 50% (a bit below actually^^) and my TvT is about 67%
I don't think TvT is my worst winrate yet - which is because there are no Protoss players on EU ladder to boost my TvP with - but it's for sure the matchup I feel the least comfortable playing.
I play mostly mech in tvt though (about 80-90% of my tvts) and that seems to work quite well. I am low diamond though, i feel you are quite a bit higher there. In my TvT experience you don't have to be the constant aggressor and holding area is way easier with a few tanks, i like that :D (i wouldn't describe me as turtle player though)
On January 18 2017 00:01 Yiome wrote: TY Innovation Maru Byun ALIVE!
We have to remove Innovation now though, that's how ti works
Byun too, 2 straight losses to aLive. He's basically bronze league now.
Yeah you are right. There is basically only TY and alive at this point, david kim pls buff terran
Because if there was anything I needed, it was more TvT on ladder
TvT is still my best matchup, i didn't play much the last few weeks though. TvZ and TvP close to 50% (a bit below actually^^) and my TvT is about 67%
I don't think TvT is my worst winrate yet - which is because there are no Protoss players on EU ladder to boost my TvP with - but it's for sure the matchup I feel the least comfortable playing.
I play mostly mech in tvt though (about 80-90% of my tvts) and that seems to work quite well. I am low diamond though, i feel you are quite a bit higher there. In my TvT experience you don't have to be the constant aggressor and holding area is way easier with a few tanks, i like that :D (i wouldn't describe me as turtle player though)
I played 6 or 7 TvTs yesterday and only one of them wasn't over after 4 minutes.
On January 18 2017 00:01 Yiome wrote: TY Innovation Maru Byun ALIVE!
We have to remove Innovation now though, that's how ti works
Byun too, 2 straight losses to aLive. He's basically bronze league now.
Yeah you are right. There is basically only TY and alive at this point, david kim pls buff terran
Because if there was anything I needed, it was more TvT on ladder
TvT is still my best matchup, i didn't play much the last few weeks though. TvZ and TvP close to 50% (a bit below actually^^) and my TvT is about 67%
I don't think TvT is my worst winrate yet - which is because there are no Protoss players on EU ladder to boost my TvP with - but it's for sure the matchup I feel the least comfortable playing.
I play mostly mech in tvt though (about 80-90% of my tvts) and that seems to work quite well. I am low diamond though, i feel you are quite a bit higher there. In my TvT experience you don't have to be the constant aggressor and holding area is way easier with a few tanks, i like that :D (i wouldn't describe me as turtle player though)
I played 6 or 7 TvTs yesterday and only one of them wasn't over after 4 minutes.
Hm doesn't really happen that often in my games tbh, mass reaper? Cyclone reaper push? But yeah you definitely can die to silly things, i am lucky that most terrans i play against wanna go macro as well i guess.
On January 18 2017 00:01 Yiome wrote: TY Innovation Maru Byun ALIVE!
We have to remove Innovation now though, that's how ti works
Byun too, 2 straight losses to aLive. He's basically bronze league now.
Yeah you are right. There is basically only TY and alive at this point, david kim pls buff terran
Because if there was anything I needed, it was more TvT on ladder
TvT is still my best matchup, i didn't play much the last few weeks though. TvZ and TvP close to 50% (a bit below actually^^) and my TvT is about 67%
I don't think TvT is my worst winrate yet - which is because there are no Protoss players on EU ladder to boost my TvP with - but it's for sure the matchup I feel the least comfortable playing.
I play mostly mech in tvt though (about 80-90% of my tvts) and that seems to work quite well. I am low diamond though, i feel you are quite a bit higher there. In my TvT experience you don't have to be the constant aggressor and holding area is way easier with a few tanks, i like that :D (i wouldn't describe me as turtle player though)
I played 6 or 7 TvTs yesterday and only one of them wasn't over after 4 minutes.
Hm doesn't really happen that often in my games tbh, mass reaper? Cyclone reaper push? But yeah you definitely can die to silly things, i am lucky that most terrans i play against wanna go macro as well i guess.
I'll concede yesterday was an especially bad day, but let's see... 3-rax reaper, proxied and not proxied, proxy cyclone, and I'm pretty sure there was a thor drop in there at some point too.
No worries though, if the games go longer my winrate skyrockets to 50%.
On January 18 2017 00:21 IntoTheheart wrote: Did you win one of them?
One very sad person went mech, made a planetary at his 3rd and never lived to take a 4th.
On some maps i simply always build a second reaper and go for a few cyclones myself. Pretty decent against anything really imo. I pretty much always get an engineering bay and 2-3 turrets though, at my lvl i really don't need to cut any corners i feel like^^ Also as i said, i rather build more vikings than going for any medivacs, i think air dominance >> dropping a few hellbats
Back for February! Please note that all OlimoLeague's from now on will start 1 HOUR LATER. The next weekly will be at Tuesday, Feb 07 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00).
New map pool updated too!
Abyssal Reef Proxima Station New Kirk Precinct Bel'Shir Vestige Cactus Valley
not sure where in the series that was. but yeah, soO rekt Stats after that very nice first game.
There was good variety in that series though... good response from Stats in game 1 to the mutas w/o phoenixes, into turtle tempest archon. g2: holds early pool but the transition into 3gates and forge is a wash when all his units are caught out by soO's ravager-roach-ling all-in. g3: fast mass hydra timing crushes the 3base carrier rush, with Stats mothership core morphing so no overcharge and his 8 cannons a bit too late.
On February 14 2017 22:02 The_Red_Viper wrote: The thing about Innovation is, i can respect his play a lot but i simply can never be a fan. Why? I don't know
His hardware is faceless?
For me i feel like it's because he just doesn't have the flashy plays, it's more like "i have more units than you so you lose", kinda boring.
On February 14 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Maybe because he only does what Terran is supposed to do and wins when Terran is supposed to win. But that's just my take on it.
Don't drop the discussion on reddit entirely pls
But yeah i think it's part of that. He simply plays a very conservative style which is kinda boring. Still, he is extremely skilled so i respect that. I would rather watch TY/Maru play though
On February 14 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Maybe because he only does what Terran is supposed to do and wins when Terran is supposed to win. But that's just my take on it.
On February 14 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Maybe because he only does what Terran is supposed to do and wins when Terran is supposed to win. But that's just my take on it.
also is the only Terran to make a GSL final in HotS, let alone make 3 and win 2
I wonder how many more years it will take until everyone accepts that during his good phases INnoVation doesn't just do what Terran is supposed to do but rather Terran is supposed to do what INnoVation does.
On February 14 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Maybe because he only does what Terran is supposed to do and wins when Terran is supposed to win. But that's just my take on it.
also is the only Terran to make a GSL final in HotS, let alone make 3 and win 2
but damn, such a boring Terran abuser
It's in general a weird point when we look at his alltime stats: (vs koreans)
On February 14 2017 22:29 Elentos wrote: I wonder how many more years it will take until everyone accepts that during his good phases INnoVation doesn't just do what Terran is supposed to do but rather Terran is supposed to do what INnoVation does.
I personally don't have a problem with INnoVation, but rather I have a problem with his fanboys (and when he rekt poor Protoss and Zergs players, but that's not important)
On February 14 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Maybe because he only does what Terran is supposed to do and wins when Terran is supposed to win. But that's just my take on it.
also is the only Terran to make a GSL final in HotS, let alone make 3 and win 2
I am sorry guys, i already triggered Olli a bit today by questioning Mvp's goat status :D (or rather the potential goat status of Inno if he wins two more GSL tournaments)
On February 14 2017 22:35 The_Red_Viper wrote: I am sorry guys, i already triggered Olli a bit today by questioning Mvp's goat status :D (or rather the potential goat status of Inno if he wins two more GSL tournaments)
Might happen, he's probably the most consistently top-tier player we've ever had and the best Kespa player to come over imo.
Not for me. He's too dependent on Terran being favored over the other races whenever he wins. Early HotS with bio/mine TvZ, late HotS with mech TvZ. HIs mid HotS GSL win was in a bracket with DRG, Cure and soO in the finals. There were Zest, soO before finals, Rain, Stats in the tournament as well but all killed each other. I wasn't impressed. Then he sucked for a while and now he's good again when Terran is the strongest race.
On February 14 2017 22:41 Olli wrote: Not for me. He's too dependent on Terran being favored over the other races whenever he wins. Early HotS with bio/mine TvZ, late HotS with mech TvZ. HIs mid HotS GSL win was in a bracket with DRG, Cure and soO in the finals. There were Zest, soO before finals, Rain, Stats in the tournament as well but all killed each other. I wasn't impressed. Then he sucked for a while and now he's good again when Terran is the strongest race.
Stats was in his Ro16 group (as were PartinG and Maru), what's a man to do? Was he supposed to get 2nd in that group to have a more impressive run in the bracket stages while at the same time making sure Cure reaches the GSL finals? Conceptually hilarious though.
On February 14 2017 22:41 Olli wrote: Not for me. He's too dependent on Terran being favored over the other races whenever he wins. Early HotS with bio/mine TvZ, late HotS with mech TvZ. HIs mid HotS GSL win was in a bracket with DRG, Cure and soO in the finals. There were Zest, soO before finals, Rain, Stats in the tournament as well but all killed each other. I wasn't impressed. Then he sucked for a while and now he's good again when Terran is the strongest race.
I mean Mvp won three out of 4 GSLs when it was called GomTvT. One of these three was a tournament with half of the players being foreign invites, which shouldn't even count as a GSL to begin with. Innovation has an incredible winrate for a player who "sucked" during times. This whole Mvp narrative is imo simply overhyped, especially because he played during a time where a big amount of the talent pool was still playing bw => less competitive time
I once played a game like this on Newkirk. After 40 minutes my opponent complained my playstyle was boring. Joke's on him, it was just a reaction to how he was playing.
On February 14 2017 23:01 Elentos wrote: I once played a game like this on Newkirk. After 40 minutes my opponent complained my playstyle was boring. Joke's on him, it was just a reaction to how he was playing.
Sometimes i get into position to deny the other terran a third base and i am content with that (meanign i don't necessarily try to push into the natural/main) Usually players flame me for being boring but obviously they don't leave till they get that a hidden base won't do it either
On February 14 2017 23:01 Elentos wrote: I once played a game like this on Newkirk. After 40 minutes my opponent complained my playstyle was boring. Joke's on him, it was just a reaction to how he was playing.
Sometimes i get into position to deny the other terran a third base and i am content with that (meanign i don't necessarily try to push into the natural/main) Usually players flame me for being boring but obviously they don't leave till they get that a hidden base won't do it either
I'm surprised how little I get accused of maphacking considering all the hidden bases I keep finding on 4-player maps. There's one every game on Honorgrounds.
On February 14 2017 23:11 Elentos wrote: I'm just waiting for the point where ByuL goes "Everyone else was wrong after our GSL match, 40 mutas is the way to go against this!"
On February 14 2017 23:18 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Haven't seen Gumi TvZ in a long time. Hope he still goes mech, especially considering who he's playing against
On February 14 2017 23:19 intotheheart wrote: Should I just give up on playing Terran if I can't play bio?
I haven't tried going full mech yet but I feel like it'd also be a disaster.
Double reactored factory hellion + cyclone works decently in diamond. The build Innovation did for a while. Most zergs just die before i even have to add tanks/thors
I think the only mech I've seen TvP in competitive SC2 was Polt vs. Classic at Blizzcon.. and it didn't even look like a thing Polt's tried on more than one map, even on ladder.
On February 14 2017 23:23 intotheheart wrote: I think the only mech I've seen TvP in competitive SC2 was Polt vs. Classic at Blizzcon.. and it didn't even look like a thing Polt's tried on more than one map, even on ladder.
On February 14 2017 23:23 intotheheart wrote: I think the only mech I've seen TvP in competitive SC2 was Polt vs. Classic at Blizzcon.. and it didn't even look like a thing Polt's tried on more than one map, even on ladder.
There were some people who liked toying around with mech against Protoss, especially for dank snipe builds in teamleagues. SuperNova and Bbyong probably did it the most out of anyone. The last actual professional mech vs Protoss game I saw was TY vs Billowy in November. But then I think I'd have to go back over 1 year to find the next one.
On February 14 2017 23:36 intotheheart wrote: Well I think it was concluded even early WoL that it wasn't viable for one reason or another as a long-term sort of thing at the highest level.
I bet noone ever tried my style. Suiciding hellions into mineral lines and hope that the toss doesn't attack till i have enough tanks/libs to defend such an attack
On February 14 2017 23:36 intotheheart wrote: Well I think it was concluded even early WoL that it wasn't viable for one reason or another as a long-term sort of thing at the highest level.
Didn't stop people from trying. Even though they lost to almost everything all the time. Bbyong's crowning mech achievement was beating Classic on Outboxer after hiding it was mech long enough that Classic ran out of time to react properly. But to contrast that I could also find games of mech players losing blink stalkers, immortal drops or even carriers.
On February 14 2017 23:36 intotheheart wrote: Well I think it was concluded even early WoL that it wasn't viable for one reason or another as a long-term sort of thing at the highest level.
I bet noone ever tried my style. Suiciding hellions into mineral lines and hope that the toss doesn't attack till i have enough tanks/libs to defend such an attack
This sounds like that one YoDa vs herO game from Proleague. Obviously YoDa didn't have liberators but it sounds similar.
On February 14 2017 23:36 intotheheart wrote: Well I think it was concluded even early WoL that it wasn't viable for one reason or another as a long-term sort of thing at the highest level.
Didn't stop people from trying. Even though they lost to almost everything all the time. Bbyong's crowning mech achievement was beating Classic on Outboxer after hiding it was mech long enough that Classic ran out of time to react properly. But to contrast that I could also find games of mech players losing blink stalkers, immortal drops or even carriers.
On February 14 2017 23:36 intotheheart wrote: Well I think it was concluded even early WoL that it wasn't viable for one reason or another as a long-term sort of thing at the highest level.
Didn't stop people from trying. Even though they lost to almost everything all the time. Bbyong's crowning mech achievement was beating Classic on Outboxer after hiding it was mech long enough that Classic ran out of time to react properly. But to contrast that I could also find games of mech players losing blink stalkers, immortal drops or even carriers.
carriers are actually really good vs mech
Yes, they're really strong against mech. But in HotS carriers were a meme more so than an actual unit people had to take seriously.
On February 14 2017 23:36 intotheheart wrote: Well I think it was concluded even early WoL that it wasn't viable for one reason or another as a long-term sort of thing at the highest level.
I bet noone ever tried my style. Suiciding hellions into mineral lines and hope that the toss doesn't attack till i have enough tanks/libs to defend such an attack
This sounds like that one YoDa vs herO game from Proleague. Obviously YoDa didn't have liberators but it sounds similar.
Liberators are actually quite critical because you can easily get into position to harass and make room for the hellions that way
On February 14 2017 23:51 Inflicted wrote: I nearly beat iNcontroL with mech in early LotV. lost the basetrade and never tried mech again
And now you gave up playing almost entirely because of ZvZ. DARKING was counting on you man.
ByuL just made the late HotS anti-mech army and surprisingly, it still works.
I read PiG's guide, ready for my comeback
Our team really is the most ragtag group. A near GM Protoss from NA, Durn the French god, you, who have lost your passion over ZvZ, a caster/translator, an A-grade shitposter, a Heroes player, DARKING and 2 guys who never play.
On February 14 2017 23:51 Inflicted wrote: I nearly beat iNcontroL with mech in early LotV. lost the basetrade and never tried mech again
And now you gave up playing almost entirely because of ZvZ. DARKING was counting on you man.
ByuL just made the late HotS anti-mech army and surprisingly, it still works.
I read PiG's guide, ready for my comeback
Our team really is the most ragtag group. A near GM Protoss from NA, Durn the French god, you, who have lost your passion over ZvZ, a caster/translator, an A-grade shitposter, a Heroes player, DARKING and 2 guys who never play.
On February 14 2017 23:51 Inflicted wrote: I nearly beat iNcontroL with mech in early LotV. lost the basetrade and never tried mech again
And now you gave up playing almost entirely because of ZvZ. DARKING was counting on you man.
ByuL just made the late HotS anti-mech army and surprisingly, it still works.
I read PiG's guide, ready for my comeback
Our team really is the most ragtag group. A near GM Protoss from NA, Durn the French god, you, who have lost your passion over ZvZ, a caster/translator, an A-grade shitposter, a Heroes player, DARKING and 2 guys who never play.
On February 14 2017 23:51 Inflicted wrote: I nearly beat iNcontroL with mech in early LotV. lost the basetrade and never tried mech again
And now you gave up playing almost entirely because of ZvZ. DARKING was counting on you man.
ByuL just made the late HotS anti-mech army and surprisingly, it still works.
I read PiG's guide, ready for my comeback
Our team really is the most ragtag group. A near GM Protoss from NA, Durn the French god, you, who have lost your passion over ZvZ, a caster/translator, an A-grade shitposter, a Heroes player, DARKING and 2 guys who never play.
I rage uninstalled HotS today, back to SC2 100%
Good. What happened though?
a bad streak of 5 games that turned into a bad streak of 15 games. Solo Q isn't for people of my temper.
On February 14 2017 23:51 Inflicted wrote: I nearly beat iNcontroL with mech in early LotV. lost the basetrade and never tried mech again
And now you gave up playing almost entirely because of ZvZ. DARKING was counting on you man.
ByuL just made the late HotS anti-mech army and surprisingly, it still works.
I read PiG's guide, ready for my comeback
Our team really is the most ragtag group. A near GM Protoss from NA, Durn the French god, you, who have lost your passion over ZvZ, a caster/translator, an A-grade shitposter, a Heroes player, DARKING and 2 guys who never play.
We just need to find a semi-pro UK Terran to carry us
On February 14 2017 23:51 Inflicted wrote: I nearly beat iNcontroL with mech in early LotV. lost the basetrade and never tried mech again
And now you gave up playing almost entirely because of ZvZ. DARKING was counting on you man.
ByuL just made the late HotS anti-mech army and surprisingly, it still works.
I read PiG's guide, ready for my comeback
Our team really is the most ragtag group. A near GM Protoss from NA, Durn the French god, you, who have lost your passion over ZvZ, a caster/translator, an A-grade shitposter, a Heroes player, DARKING and 2 guys who never play.
We just need to find a semi-pro UK Terran to carry us
On February 14 2017 23:51 Inflicted wrote: I nearly beat iNcontroL with mech in early LotV. lost the basetrade and never tried mech again
And now you gave up playing almost entirely because of ZvZ. DARKING was counting on you man.
ByuL just made the late HotS anti-mech army and surprisingly, it still works.
I read PiG's guide, ready for my comeback
Our team really is the most ragtag group. A near GM Protoss from NA, Durn the French god, you, who have lost your passion over ZvZ, a caster/translator, an A-grade shitposter, a Heroes player, DARKING and 2 guys who never play.
I rage uninstalled HotS today, back to SC2 100%
Good. What happened though?
a bad streak of 5 games that turned into a bad streak of 15 games. Solo Q isn't for people of my temper.
On February 14 2017 23:51 Inflicted wrote: I nearly beat iNcontroL with mech in early LotV. lost the basetrade and never tried mech again
And now you gave up playing almost entirely because of ZvZ. DARKING was counting on you man.
ByuL just made the late HotS anti-mech army and surprisingly, it still works.
I read PiG's guide, ready for my comeback
Our team really is the most ragtag group. A near GM Protoss from NA, Durn the French god, you, who have lost your passion over ZvZ, a caster/translator, an A-grade shitposter, a Heroes player, DARKING and 2 guys who never play.
We just need to find a semi-pro UK Terran to carry us
On February 15 2017 00:07 ruypture wrote: its almost like people talk shit about mech without actually trying to utilize some of the tools that make mech powerful
On February 15 2017 00:07 ruypture wrote: its almost like people talk shit about mech without actually trying to utilize some of the tools that make mech powerful
i need that wondering Twitter emote on TL
I need a "why is hyperflight rotors a thing and why are cyclones so good" emote
On February 15 2017 00:07 ruypture wrote: its almost like people talk shit about mech without actually trying to utilize some of the tools that make mech powerful
On February 15 2017 00:07 ruypture wrote: its almost like people talk shit about mech without actually trying to utilize some of the tools that make mech powerful
On February 15 2017 00:07 ruypture wrote: its almost like people talk shit about mech without actually trying to utilize some of the tools that make mech powerful
Did ByuN just have a stroke? He just tried to take a base that already had 4 siege tanks on the high ground behind it. I mean I get that in a base race every second of mining is precious but that's not how you do it.
Okay after checking the LP page I have to say I'm confused.
aLive was 2nd in the standings, but he wasn't in the bracket. INnoVation was joint 9th in the standings, but he was in the bracket. At the same time there was an IQ Cup group today, INnoVation was supposed to play in that. But he didn't, aLive did. But INnoVation also no-showed for this.
omg heros PvT is just completely unwatchable. from now on when I see hero against any terran i will just turn it off and just dont bother. same abusive shit every game...
A fan of herO but very disappointed with his play. Uncontrollable cheese/all-in to full extreme. If he didn't want to play, just don't play. Not sure why playing too cheesy and all-in for what exactly? To be done with this quickly?
On May 24 2017 00:28 Vutalisk wrote: A fan of herO but very disappointed with his play. Uncontrollable cheese/all-in to full extreme. If he didn't want to play, just don't play. Not sure why playing too cheesy and all-in for what exactly? To be done with this quickly?
On June 20 2017 22:32 AzAlexZ wrote: lol whoever wins between Gumiho and Stats makes this a GSL Final Stats vs soO GSL Season 1 review Gumiho vs soO GSL Season 2 preview
Gumiho seems to be showing his hand. I hope he doesn't win the battle only to lose the war. The again he does have an enormous number of builds. Perhaps he has a different plan for the GSL.
On June 20 2017 23:12 royalroadweed wrote: That's a lot of information soo got while giving almost none away. Gumiho should have just 2 raxed every game.
Maybe he's planning to 2rax every game in the gsl finals
On June 20 2017 23:12 royalroadweed wrote: That's a lot of information soo got while giving almost none away. Gumiho should have just 2 raxed every game.
Maybe he's planning to 2rax every game in the gsl finals
On June 21 2017 00:06 Malgo wrote: soO getting 3-0 'd in an online tournament against his GSL opponent a few days before the most important day in his life?
Given that soO was the guy who did the only-baneling build against Protoss in Shoutcraft a couple days before GSL Season 1 Finals, I think its a safe bet that he was hiding builds. Gumiho tho....
Also I assume Inno was using this tournament to train soO more.
On June 21 2017 00:33 Shellshock wrote: I heard when gumigod plays these days he just listens to a recording of Choya telling him it's the gstl final. Literally unstoppable now
We'll be back at our regular time in 18 hours with June Monthly Finals! Gumiho, Zest, Hero, Classic, Impact, Leenock, soO, and Innovation! Here is the bracket: http://challonge.com/OlimoLeagueJune2017
On August 15 2017 21:07 AzAlexZ wrote: how does impact always manage to beat Neeb, he's shit lol
Well, if Impact's shit and he still beats Neeb, you know what that says about Neeb.
it's not that, Neeb 3-0's Solar and Nerchio and other really good Zergs, but Impact seems to beat him (online of all places), it's like bly who seems to always beat Neeb despite being not nearly as accomplished. But no one would say Bly is better than Neeb, neither is Impact
On August 15 2017 21:07 AzAlexZ wrote: how does impact always manage to beat Neeb, he's shit lol
Well, if Impact's shit and he still beats Neeb, you know what that says about Neeb.
it's not that, Neeb 3-0's Solar and Nerchio and other really good Zergs, but Impact seems to beat him (online of all places), it's like bly who seems to always beat Neeb despite being not nearly as accomplished. But no one would say Bly is better than Neeb, neither is Impact
Bly beats him with trickery. Impact just beat him straight-up. So maybe you're completely off on your judgement for Neeb or Impact.
On August 15 2017 21:07 AzAlexZ wrote: how does impact always manage to beat Neeb, he's shit lol
Well, if Impact's shit and he still beats Neeb, you know what that says about Neeb.
it's not that, Neeb 3-0's Solar and Nerchio and other really good Zergs, but Impact seems to beat him (online of all places), it's like bly who seems to always beat Neeb despite being not nearly as accomplished. But no one would say Bly is better than Neeb, neither is Impact
Bly beats him with trickery. Impact just beat him straight-up. So maybe you're completely off on your judgement for Neeb or Impact.
I didn't see the games, I just follow how impact plays in VSL and SSL, and he seems more gimmicky than macro-based I might be wrong though
Question: Is Crank 100% a commentator now? Or does he still stream gameplay of SC2 games occasionally (or even regularly)? Don't watch his stream as often so I'm just curious!!!
On August 15 2017 21:18 AzAlexZ wrote: Question: Is Crank 100% a commentator now? Or does he still stream gameplay of SC2 games occasionally (or even regularly)? Don't watch his stream as often so I'm just curious!!!
Recently I've only seen him play other games, the SC2 content was all casting.
On August 15 2017 21:18 AzAlexZ wrote: Question: Is Crank 100% a commentator now? Or does he still stream gameplay of SC2 games occasionally (or even regularly)? Don't watch his stream as often so I'm just curious!!!
Recently I've only seen him play other games, the SC2 content was all casting.
ahh okay thank you iirc he retired from the pro scene right?
On August 15 2017 21:18 AzAlexZ wrote: Question: Is Crank 100% a commentator now? Or does he still stream gameplay of SC2 games occasionally (or even regularly)? Don't watch his stream as often so I'm just curious!!!
Recently I've only seen him play other games, the SC2 content was all casting.
ahh okay thank you iirc he retired from the pro scene right?
On September 05 2017 20:19 CynicalDeath wrote: yes, issue is that he is still banned...
btw, HanaKana (kr p) just 2-0ed Stats?
edit: it seems HanaKana is gyulzzing... still surprising...
Stats plays PvP in the GSL semis tomorrow, maybe he wanted to take absolutely no risk of showing anything and did some weird shit or got cheesed out himself.
BreakingGG and 麦乐鸡块: Smurfing, banned from all official and sanctioned tournaments for six months, Blizzard account permanently closed, all rewards from related tournaments revoked.
Heads up! Tonight's cast has additional changes to our foreign streams:
- MMA will be joining today's Korean cast on Crank's channel - We've added a legitimate Russian caster Psinsin, so I hope all our Russian viewers will stop watching unauthorized rebroadcasts and tune into Psinsin's stream.
First game : INno did a greedy 3 cc, lost 11 vcs on baneling drop ( 0 reaction), elazer took a really good fight with fungal on a lot of marines and two angles ( but bad upgrades ), INno won without doing nothing special.
Second game INno won thanks to 6 hellions and 1 reaper.
First game : INno did a greedy 3 cc, lost 11 vcs on baneling drop ( 0 reaction), elazer took a really good fight with fungal on a lot of marines and two angles ( but bad upgrades ), INno won without doing nothing special.
Second game INno won thanks to 6 hellions and 1 reaper.
First game could have gone either way, if one or two banelings reached the fungaled marines, in fact Elazer would most likely have won the game. Second game was indeed a simple mistake on the part of Elazer, queens moved in 2-3 seconds too late and too many drones died.
First game : INno did a greedy 3 cc, lost 11 vcs on baneling drop ( 0 reaction), elazer took a really good fight with fungal on a lot of marines and two angles ( but bad upgrades ), INno won without doing nothing special.
Second game INno won thanks to 6 hellions and 1 reaper.
First game could have gone either way, if one or two banelings reached the fungaled marines, in fact Elazer would most likely have won the game. Second game was indeed a simple mistake on the part of Elazer, queens moved in 2-3 seconds too late and too many drones died.
Some of them did lol, he just had not enough + bad upgrades, that was the maximum that he could expect + "if", "if" INno reacted to the baneling drop the game would have been even more one sided
On October 10 2017 23:24 DieuCure wrote: First game : INno did a greedy 3 cc, lost 11 vcs on baneling drop ( 0 reaction), elazer took a really good fight with fungal on a lot of marines and two angles ( but bad upgrades ), INno won without doing nothing special.
Second game INno won thanks to 6 hellions and 1 reaper.
Seems fun
On October 10 2017 23:36 Olli wrote: A TvT final. And here I thought Terran was the worst race of all time.
So Salty.
Disgustingly good early game from INno in that second game.
I just saw the bracket; INno and TY didn't have really strong opponents, it's surprising that Elazer took out Stats; and I'd like to see more of Rogue and Dark online
Inno is looking suprisingly weak this game. He keeps not paying attention to drops and losing them. Also setting up siege positions and forgetting to siege the actual tanks
Tomorrow's OlimoLeague features some changes in format.
Weekly #106 will be played on the balance test mod.
The maps for OlimoLeague have also changed: Abyssal Reef (어비셜 리프) Ascension to Aiur (어센션 투 아이어) Odyssey LE (오딧세이) Black Pink LE (블랙핑크) Neon Violet Square LE (네온 바이올렛)
And the winner of this week's OlimoLeague will be invited to SHOUTcraft November!
On October 18 2017 00:38 Fango wrote: Inno is looking suprisingly weak this game. He keeps not paying attention to drops and losing them. Also setting up siege positions and forgetting to siege the actual tanks
It's pretty well known that almost every terran player is a little depressed right now. Terran lost almost all build safety and harass options. It might seem 'good on paper' but terrans are easily predicted now and more corners can be cut. You know the game is destroyed balance wise when casters at all events have to comment on it multiple times even during short matches. I simply feel bad for any terran player who makes their living playing a 'strategy' game right now.
On October 18 2017 00:38 Fango wrote: Inno is looking suprisingly weak this game. He keeps not paying attention to drops and losing them. Also setting up siege positions and forgetting to siege the actual tanks
It's pretty well known that almost every terran player is a little depressed right now. Terran lost almost all build safety and harass options. It might seem 'good on paper' but terrans are easily predicted now and more corners can be cut. You know the game is destroyed balance wise when casters at all events have to comment on it multiple times even during short matches. I simply feel bad for any terran player who makes their living playing a 'strategy' game right now.
I like how you use a month-old post to whine about the current patch
On November 15 2017 00:16 Yiome wrote: "Hello thief" ? I guess that was not a serious accusation? Well that put a sudden end to tonight's Chinese stream
He said that the stream was being pirated. So I think it was intentional.
On November 15 2017 00:16 Yiome wrote: "Hello thief" ? I guess that was not a serious accusation? Well that put a sudden end to tonight's Chinese stream
He said that the stream was being pirated. So I think it was intentional.
Yeah I know it is intentional. Just Rifkin and his way of handling things I guess. He does have the right here.
I'm still confused they didn't touch oracles at all when the plan with the patch was to reduce moments of sudden, game-ending damage. Oracles hitting when the first factory unit is done is pretty ridiculous.
EDIT: it has been sorted out on good terms, scboy will now have permission to restream basetrade's content as long as BTTV's brand exposure is not affected.
I have talked to both sides of the story and relayed a apology message from xiaose to Rifkin. Hope things get sorted out quickly.
On November 15 2017 01:08 digmouse wrote: EDIT: it has been sorted out on good terms, scboy will now have permission to restream basetrade's content as long as BTTV's brand exposure is not affected.
I have talked to both sides of the story and relayed a apology message from xiaose to Rifkin. Hope things get sorted out quickly.
On November 15 2017 01:08 digmouse wrote: EDIT: it has been sorted out on good terms, scboy will now have permission to restream basetrade's content as long as BTTV's brand exposure is not affected.
I have talked to both sides of the story and relayed a apology message from xiaose to Rifkin. Hope things get sorted out quickly.
On November 15 2017 00:45 Elentos wrote: I'm still confused they didn't touch oracles at all when the plan with the patch was to reduce moments of sudden, game-ending damage. Oracles hitting when the first factory unit is done is pretty ridiculous.
Don't worry, someone on reddit said it's fine terrans just need to learn a new timing for missile turrets
On November 15 2017 00:45 Elentos wrote: I'm still confused they didn't touch oracles at all when the plan with the patch was to reduce moments of sudden, game-ending damage. Oracles hitting when the first factory unit is done is pretty ridiculous.
Don't worry, someone on reddit said it's fine terrans just need to learn a new timing for missile turrets
On November 15 2017 00:45 Elentos wrote: I'm still confused they didn't touch oracles at all when the plan with the patch was to reduce moments of sudden, game-ending damage. Oracles hitting when the first factory unit is done is pretty ridiculous.
Don't worry, someone on reddit said it's fine terrans just need to learn a new timing for missile turrets
Pretty sure chrono is the core problem (though I wouldn't complain if oracles got nerfed if only for the sake of PvP). It probably enables other problematic timings (stalker timings maybe) which aren't being played right now since oracles are the most obvious abuse.
He played poorly. he losed to one nydus in one game. In another he let he huge zergling runby pass and take 3/4 of his probes (then got rolled over by hydra baneling + ling drops).
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