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Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:31:28
July 14 2016 08:26 GMT
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(Z)Dark vs (P)Trust
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(T)aLive vs (P)Zest



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+ Show Spoiler [Results] +

(Z)Dark <Dusk Towers> (P)Trust
(Z)Dark <King Sejong Station> (P)Trust
(Z)Dark <> (P)Trust

(Z)Dark Wins 2-0


(T)aLive <Frozen Temple> (P)Zest
(T)aLive <Frost> (P)Zest
(T)aLive <> (P)Zest

(P)Zest Wins 2-0


(Z)Dark <Frozen Temple> (P)Zest
(Z)Dark <King Sejong Station> (P)Zest
(Z)Dark <New Gettysburg> (P)Zest

(Z)Dark Wins 2-1 & Advances to Quarter Finals


(P)Trust <King Sejong Station> (T)aLive
(P)Trust <Frozen Temple> (T)aLive
(P)Trust <Dusk Towers> (T)aLive

(P)Trust Wins 2-1 & Advances to Final Match


(P)Zest <Frozen Temple> (P)Trust
(P)Zest <Dusk Towers> (P)Trust
(P)Zest <Frost> (P)Trust

(P)Zest Wins 2-1 & Advances Quarter Finals



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+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [Dark vs Trust] +

Poll: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 1?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
 
29%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
 
57%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 2?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
 
29%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
 
57%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 3?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
 
50%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
25%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
25%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what



+ Show Spoiler [aLive vs Zest] +

Poll: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 1?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
17%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
33%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
50%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 2?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
29%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
 
71%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 3?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
50%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
50%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what



+ Show Spoiler [Winners Match] +

Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
43%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
 
57%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (8)
 
80%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
10%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (7)
 
58%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
 
17%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
25%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what



+ Show Spoiler [Losers Match] +

Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
 
71%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
29%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (8)
 
57%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
 
29%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
14%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
17%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
 
83%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what



+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +

Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
75%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
100%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
67%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
33%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what






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Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 08:26 GMT
#2
Poll: Heart?

Dark & aLive (8)
 
33%

Dark & Zest (7)
 
29%

Trust & Zest (4)
 
17%

Dark & Trust (3)
 
13%

Trust & aLive (2)
 
8%

aLive & Zest (0)
 
0%

24 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): Dark & Trust
(Vote): Dark & aLive
(Vote): Dark & Zest
(Vote): Trust & aLive
(Vote): Trust & Zest
(Vote): aLive & Zest


Poll: Head?

Dark & Zest (15)
 
83%

aLive & Zest (2)
 
11%

Trust & aLive (1)
 
6%

Dark & Trust (0)
 
0%

Dark & aLive (0)
 
0%

Trust & Zest (0)
 
0%

18 total votes

Your vote: Head?

(Vote): Dark & Trust
(Vote): Dark & aLive
(Vote): Dark & Zest
(Vote): Trust & aLive
(Vote): Trust & Zest
(Vote): aLive & Zest


Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 14 2016 08:32 GMT
#3
Oh nice Yello thanks for doing this i have a work experience guy i have to show some things to do today and well i can't do this at the same time xD
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Proflo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
July 14 2016 08:33 GMT
#4
Hypuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Zest Hwaiting!
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 08:35:59
July 14 2016 08:33 GMT
#5
On July 14 2016 17:32 Pandemona wrote:
Oh nice Yello thanks for doing this i have a work experience guy i have to show some things to do today and well i can't do this at the same time xD


also you forgot the recommended games section in the template. Dude, you are slacking

btw no more spoiler-free results section in recent LR ops? I never cared for it anyway but we did that so long that it feels kinda weird not doing it
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5602 Posts
July 14 2016 08:52 GMT
#6
Poll: Best KT?

KT (7)
 
100%

7 total votes

Your vote: Best KT?

(Vote): KT

don't wall off against random
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 08:56 GMT
#7
More GTR and Valdes today. GTR's last week in Korea is coming to a close.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 14 2016 09:01 GMT
#8
BAD-ASS DARK!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:02 GMT
#9
That sounded like she was singing "Surrender the pron"
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 09:04:41
July 14 2016 09:03 GMT
#10
I hope this group goes well, I have an exam today and have to leave in a bit over 2 hours.

Still don't care enough to do English subtitles I see.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:05 GMT
#11
Come on Dark save the swarm
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:06 GMT
#12
Was that Rain in the commentator panel ?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:07 GMT
#13
On July 14 2016 18:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Was that Rain in the commentator panel ?

Yeah Rain casts SSL.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:08 GMT
#14
On July 14 2016 18:07 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Was that Rain in the commentator panel ?

Yeah Rain casts SSL.

awesome

I miss him so much he'd have been so great in LotV
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
July 14 2016 09:09 GMT
#15
I want both KT players to win but if Dark loses this, zerg representation will be halved for rest of the tournament
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:09 GMT
#16
On July 14 2016 18:09 Isualin wrote:
I want both KT players to win but if Dark loses this, zerg representation will be halved for rest of the tournament

And then in group C it'll die.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:12 GMT
#17
What is Trust's badge? <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:15 GMT
#18
Does this count as away cheese?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:15 GMT
#19
now that's some quick robo
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:16 GMT
#20
lol and the lings see it, Trust already in an awful lot of trouble
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:16 GMT
#21
Quickly, switch to colossus drops!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:17 GMT
#22
On July 14 2016 18:16 Elentos wrote:
Quickly, switch to colossus drops!

would actually be good vs the lings Dark is getting
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
July 14 2016 09:17 GMT
#23
looks like this will be a quick game
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
July 14 2016 09:17 GMT
#24
Omg Trust is so bad...
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
July 14 2016 09:18 GMT
#25
wew dark lad
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 14 2016 09:18 GMT
#26
HAHHAHAHA!!! This was Life vs Lilbow level of REKT!
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 09:18 GMT
#27
Poll: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 1?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
 
29%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
 
57%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:18 GMT
#28
Trust didn't look too good in that one
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:18 GMT
#29
That one disruptor could have killed every unit on the ramp if he left it at home.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:19 GMT
#30
winning on Dusk Towers basically gives the series to Dark I think
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:19 GMT
#31
So was this home or away cheese? I can't decide.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
July 14 2016 09:19 GMT
#32
On July 14 2016 18:18 Elentos wrote:
That one disruptor could have killed every unit on the ramp if he left it at home.

There were overlord drops as well, i doubt it would work that well
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:20 GMT
#33
On July 14 2016 18:19 Elentos wrote:
So was this home or away cheese? I can't decide.

every map feels like home when you cheese
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:20 GMT
#34
On July 14 2016 18:19 Isualin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:18 Elentos wrote:
That one disruptor could have killed every unit on the ramp if he left it at home.

There were overlord drops as well, i doubt it would work that well

and even then I doubt Dark would have let every unit on the ramp get blown up without reacting
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:21 GMT
#35
On July 14 2016 18:19 Isualin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:18 Elentos wrote:
That one disruptor could have killed every unit on the ramp if he left it at home.

There were overlord drops as well, i doubt it would work that well

Killing all the banes before they blow up your Artosis pylon could have helped though.

But yeah he should have totally switched to a colossus drop when he got scouted. Dark would never see that coming.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:23 GMT
#36
Dark's turn to create chaos
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 09:24 GMT
#37
haha how did this happen?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:24 GMT
#38
Artosis pylowned
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
July 14 2016 09:24 GMT
#39
Trust with the total play time of 8 minutes against Dark
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 14 2016 09:24 GMT
#40
Series of the century,
why even
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 09:25 GMT
#41
Poll: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 2?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
 
29%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
 
57%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 3?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
 
50%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
25%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
25%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Trust Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 14 2016 09:25 GMT
#42
That was BRUTAL! Dark looks on point.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:25 GMT
#43
lol my stream died so I couldn't see how Trust lost

what happened ?
YamiRi
Profile Joined September 2015
152 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 09:30:54
July 14 2016 09:25 GMT
#44
This game tried to break shortest BO3 ever recorded

[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:26 GMT
#45
On July 14 2016 18:25 RaFox17 wrote:
That was BRUTAL! Dark looks on point.

hard to say if Dark looks on point or if Trust looks ridiculous based on this series
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
July 14 2016 09:26 GMT
#46
On July 14 2016 18:25 RaFox17 wrote:
That was BRUTAL! Dark looks on point.


Well, he didn't show anything.
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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 14 2016 09:26 GMT
#47
On July 14 2016 18:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:
lol my stream died so I couldn't see how Trust lost

what happened ?

Dark dropped some lings and walked in with roaches/lings and killed an Artois pylon.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:26 GMT
#48
On July 14 2016 18:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:
lol my stream died so I couldn't see how Trust lost

what happened ?

Ling drop distracted him until the roach all-in arrived, then Dark busted the Artosis pylon powering every single warpgate.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:26 GMT
#49
thanks guys ^^
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:27 GMT
#50
You idiots Zest didn't lose to GuMiho.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 09:27 GMT
#51
Zest's PvT hasn't dropped, not sure what they're on about
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 14 2016 09:27 GMT
#52
On July 14 2016 18:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:25 RaFox17 wrote:
That was BRUTAL! Dark looks on point.

hard to say if Dark looks on point or if Trust looks ridiculous based on this series

Two well executed attacks from Dark. Dark will take this group.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:28 GMT
#53
On July 14 2016 18:27 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:25 RaFox17 wrote:
That was BRUTAL! Dark looks on point.

hard to say if Dark looks on point or if Trust looks ridiculous based on this series

Two well executed attacks from Dark. Dark will take this group.

doubt such a basic approach will work vs Zest
Proflo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
July 14 2016 09:29 GMT
#54
On July 14 2016 18:27 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:25 RaFox17 wrote:
That was BRUTAL! Dark looks on point.

hard to say if Dark looks on point or if Trust looks ridiculous based on this series

Two well executed attacks from Dark. Dark will take this group.


Dark will be stomped by Zest.

Zest is best Zest is best.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
berndniph
Profile Joined April 2011
95 Posts
July 14 2016 09:29 GMT
#55
can't believe het got out of his group and sOs didn't.

this is why sc2 needs more seeded players.
no one cares about trust or aLive if there is a possibility to watch sOs or Maru.
Qualifiers are still too volatile.

How can the Blizzcon champion not play in the ssl ?

Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 09:30 GMT
#56
On July 14 2016 18:27 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:25 RaFox17 wrote:
That was BRUTAL! Dark looks on point.

hard to say if Dark looks on point or if Trust looks ridiculous based on this series

Two well executed attacks from Dark. Dark will take this group.


well executed by Dark but Trust didn't look good at all. How the hell did he have only one pylon for all his production in game 2? And that opening in game 1 was really risky.
I don't think Zest will go down as easy as that
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:30 GMT
#57
On July 14 2016 18:29 berndniph wrote:
can't believe het got out of his group and sOs didn't.

this is why sc2 needs more seeded players.
no one cares about trust or aLive if there is a possibility to watch sOs or Maru.
Qualifiers are still too volatile.

How can the Blizzcon champion not play in the ssl ?


He won Blizzcon 8 months ago in a different game. There was no basis to seed sOs into SSL.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:31 GMT
#58
On July 14 2016 18:29 berndniph wrote:
can't believe het got out of his group and sOs didn't.

this is why sc2 needs more seeded players.
no one cares about trust or aLive if there is a possibility to watch sOs or Maru.
Qualifiers are still too volatile.

How can the Blizzcon champion not play in the ssl ?


1/ different games so the fact he's Blizzcon champion is not relevant
2/ round robin group of 6 qualifiers is like as not volatile as you can get in sc2. Blame sOs for underperforming that day and losing to Trust in the decider.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 09:32 GMT
#59
ret?!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:33 GMT
#60
hmmmm

when did Zest lose to Gumiho ?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:33 GMT
#61
Someone go tweet at Valdes that Zest and GuMiho didn't play each other in GSL, ffs.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:33 GMT
#62
On July 14 2016 18:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:
hmmmm

when did Zest lose to Gumiho ?

2014.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 09:34 GMT
#63
He didn't
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:34 GMT
#64
On July 14 2016 18:33 Elentos wrote:
Someone go tweet at Valdes that Zest and GuMiho didn't play each other in GSL, ffs.

ah yeah now I get why they're confused.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:35 GMT
#65
Frozen Temple? Time for the build?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 09:35 GMT
#66
I just tweeted at him, hope he sees it
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:36 GMT
#67
On July 14 2016 18:35 Elentos wrote:
Frozen Temple? Time for the build?

cyclones and tanks ftw
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 09:37:06
July 14 2016 09:36 GMT
#68
Looks like the build Byun did vs Seed on KSS yesterday

Oh Cyclone, nvm
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Gawd
Profile Joined February 2016
27 Posts
July 14 2016 09:37 GMT
#69
I am getting " this video is private on YouTube English link " .
Can someone fix it. Thanks.
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 09:37 GMT
#70
On July 14 2016 18:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:35 Elentos wrote:
Frozen Temple? Time for the build?

cyclones and tanks ftw


Wait is this a real thing? Early cyclone before any other unit?
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 09:37 GMT
#71
Thanks GTR :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:38 GMT
#72
On July 14 2016 18:37 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:35 Elentos wrote:
Frozen Temple? Time for the build?

cyclones and tanks ftw


Wait is this a real thing? Early cyclone before any other unit?

cyclone tank + bunker contain with liberators and mines in the end is really strong on the short rush distances map

don't know if that's what aLive has in mind, you can check Gumiho's Proleague TvPs to see what I'm talking about
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:38 GMT
#73
That adept micro vs the lock-on
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 09:39 GMT
#74
That was so well done
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 09:39 GMT
#75
On July 14 2016 18:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:37 Yello wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:35 Elentos wrote:
Frozen Temple? Time for the build?

cyclones and tanks ftw


Wait is this a real thing? Early cyclone before any other unit?

cyclone tank + bunker contain with liberators and mines in the end is really strong on the short rush distances map

don't know if that's what aLive has in mind, you can check Gumiho's Proleague TvPs to see what I'm talking about


okay, I'll watch some vods then.

aLive was way too aggressive with his cyclone here though
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 09:39 GMT
#76
zest so scared of hidden mines
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:40 GMT
#77
Zest is literally the only Protoss who gets cannons that fast.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 09:42 GMT
#78
Well that's one way to die
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 09:42 GMT
#79
Poll: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 1?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
17%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
33%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
50%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:42 GMT
#80
On July 14 2016 18:42 Olli wrote:
Well that's one way to die

One of many.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
July 14 2016 09:42 GMT
#81
why was alive out on the map?

you can't do damage to toss while he's on 3 bases
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:43 GMT
#82
Jesus my internet died again

what happened ?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 09:43 GMT
#83


Wrong stream in OP
Liquipedia"Expert"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:43 GMT
#84
On July 14 2016 18:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Jesus my internet died again

what happened ?

aLive was out on the map, Zest brought his entire army into aLive's main and force fielded the ramp.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:44 GMT
#85
On July 14 2016 18:43 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Jesus my internet died again

what happened ?

aLive was out on the map, Zest brought his entire army into aLive's main and force fielded the ramp.

ha ha he loves to do that

thx
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 09:45:20
July 14 2016 09:44 GMT
#86
Can someone link me up to the English American? YT stream please? Thanks

Edit: nvm ty Inficted
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 09:45 GMT
#87
On July 14 2016 18:43 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Jesus my internet died again

what happened ?

aLive was out on the map, Zest brought his entire army into aLive's main and force fielded the ramp.


Zest always knew where alives army was and alive didn't know anything about Zests positioning. I don't know why alive didn't send a single marine down the middle lane if he planned to be aggressive via the top lane
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 09:47 GMT
#88
On July 14 2016 18:43 Inflicted wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAie2AOYHqo

Wrong stream in OP


thanks, changed it now
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:47 GMT
#89
Zest actually believes they're cross
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 09:47 GMT
#90
7 probes for cyclone, is this Beta?
Liquipedia"Expert"
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 09:48 GMT
#91
It's DT-Blink? By Zest?! Say it ain't so
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:48 GMT
#92
I don't understand what Zest was thinking with no units and no pylon

still a prayer to Inca can always salvage a bad game
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:49 GMT
#93
This game is not going too well for Zest.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:49 GMT
#94
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:50 GMT
#95
Okay that free medivac helps.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 09:50 GMT
#96
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game


He's going to, but it's Zest so it's fine
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
July 14 2016 09:50 GMT
#97
why would you bother dropping toss when he's only on 3 base? they can't take damage with photon overcharge
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 09:51 GMT
#98
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:51 GMT
#99
On July 14 2016 18:50 IMPrime wrote:
why would you bother dropping toss when he's only on 3 base? they can't take damage with photon overcharge

or at least don't drop the most obvious most easily defendable spot
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:51 GMT
#100
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 09:52 GMT
#101
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 09:52 GMT
#102
Poll: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 2?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
29%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
 
71%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Poll: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 3?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
50%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
50%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend aLive vs Zest Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:53 GMT
#103
And now is about the time aLive regrets picking Zest during the group selection.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:53 GMT
#104
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 09:54:52
July 14 2016 09:54 GMT
#105
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 09:55 GMT
#106
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:55 GMT
#107
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

still feel confident after the first series Trust played ?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 09:57:15
July 14 2016 09:56 GMT
#108
On July 14 2016 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

still feel confident after the first series Trust played ?

Dark was just too scared to face Trust in a real game so he played all-ins!

I think that's how this goes on ladder, right?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 09:57 GMT
#109
On July 14 2016 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

still feel confident after the first series Trust played ?


I actually just got here, missed all the games so far. I assume he got rolled?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:57 GMT
#110
those ads are... hypnotizing
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:57 GMT
#111
On July 14 2016 18:57 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

still feel confident after the first series Trust played ?


I actually just got here, missed all the games so far. I assume he got rolled?

well the series didn't last 8 minutes
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 09:57 GMT
#112
On July 14 2016 18:57 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

still feel confident after the first series Trust played ?


I actually just got here, missed all the games so far. I assume he got rolled?

He got Artosis pylowned™
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 09:58 GMT
#113
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

Taking risks or faith in the power of Protoss?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 09:59 GMT
#114
On July 14 2016 18:58 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

Taking risks or faith in the power of Protoss?

Not voting Dark actually kinda made sense given his current bad form

but he seems to be on point enough to get out with Zest today
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 09:59 GMT
#115
On July 14 2016 18:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:57 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

still feel confident after the first series Trust played ?


I actually just got here, missed all the games so far. I assume he got rolled?

well the series didn't last 8 minutes


On July 14 2016 18:57 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:57 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

still feel confident after the first series Trust played ?


I actually just got here, missed all the games so far. I assume he got rolled?

He got Artosis pylowned™


Just getting himself set up for the real games in the rematch.

On July 14 2016 18:58 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

Taking risks or faith in the power of Protoss?


I just don't have it in me to vote against my team. It's why I always bomb out in tipping competitions.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
July 14 2016 10:00 GMT
#116
On July 14 2016 18:57 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

still feel confident after the first series Trust played ?


I actually just got here, missed all the games so far. I assume he got rolled?

Are you physically at the venue?
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51560 Posts
July 14 2016 10:00 GMT
#117
Guys, I can cook better carbonara than him. Why am I not invited on this show?!?!
Commentator
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:01 GMT
#118
Is this that virtual dating show ByuN will appear in?
Liquipedia"Expert"
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 10:01 GMT
#119
On July 14 2016 19:00 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:57 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
If Zest wins this aLive should just give up on the game

RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

still feel confident after the first series Trust played ?


I actually just got here, missed all the games so far. I assume he got rolled?

Are you physically at the venue?


I most certainly am not. I fell asleep on my couch and just woke up and turned on the stream
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:01 GMT
#120
On July 14 2016 19:00 GTR wrote:
Guys, I can cook better carbonara than him. Why am I not invited on this show?!?!

Either because you're not a pro (discrimination, sue them) or because your Korean isn't good enough (discrimination, sue them).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 10:02 GMT
#121
On July 14 2016 19:01 Inflicted wrote:
Is this that virtual dating show ByuN will appear in?

Yeah

:D
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 10:04:15
July 14 2016 10:04 GMT
#122
Seed retired to become a full time virtual dating "streamer"
Liquipedia"Expert"
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
July 14 2016 10:04 GMT
#123
On July 14 2016 19:01 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:00 Alur wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:57 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:55 Phredxor wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:54 Penev wrote:
Anyone who voted differently than Dark & Zest getting out?

On July 14 2016 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:51 Penev wrote:
[quote]
RIP aLive :/

he's terrible

I wish I was as terrible as aLive

ofc me too

but he really handled a very advantageous situation extremely poorly


he did..


Zest and Trust for me..

still feel confident after the first series Trust played ?


I actually just got here, missed all the games so far. I assume he got rolled?

Are you physically at the venue?


I most certainly am not. I fell asleep on my couch and just woke up and turned on the stream

ㅋㅋㅋ Fair enough
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
July 14 2016 10:07 GMT
#124
Dark the king
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 10:07:40
July 14 2016 10:07 GMT
#125
I think she says Surrender the Throne, but all I hear is Surrender the Pron. I guess Dark reinvested his SSL winnings into a sizable collection.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 10:09 GMT
#126
On July 14 2016 19:07 Elentos wrote:
I think she says Surrender the Throne, but all I hear is Surrender the Pron. I guess Dark reinvested his SSL winnings into a sizable collection.


Pron the for the pron throne
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:11 GMT
#127
Clutchest pylon
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 10:12 GMT
#128
the new block meta is interesting
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:12 GMT
#129
Now I hope Zest prepares for the inevitable all-in.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 10:12 GMT
#130
Few in numbers, GTR. Few.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:12 GMT
#131
yeah probably roach ravager
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 10:13 GMT
#132
Zest pls hold.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:13 GMT
#133
did Zest pylon block a base? Because when that happens to me I expand to 3rd, make a roach warren and roach rush for the Protoss tears.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:13 GMT
#134
ARTOSIS
Liquipedia"Expert"
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 10:14 GMT
#135
On July 14 2016 19:13 Ej_ wrote:
did Zest pylon block a base? Because when that happens to me I expand to 3rd, make a roach warren and roach rush for the Protoss tears.


Pylon + cyber
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 10:14 GMT
#136
That's as good as it gets for holding this
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 10:15 GMT
#137
And now Dark is really sad
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:15 GMT
#138
Ok Dark lost, shouldn't have taken a 3rd base if he was planning to all-in in the first place.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:15 GMT
#139
Well now that he already has 2 cyber cores he might as well go mass air.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:15 GMT
#140
Dark seems to have a lot of faith in his macro ZvP
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:15 GMT
#141
On July 14 2016 19:15 Ej_ wrote:
Ok Dark lost, shouldn't have taken a 3rd base if he was planning to all-in in the first place.


Transitional third
Liquipedia"Expert"
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 10:16 GMT
#142
Ok Zest. I know your PvZ isn't great but you can't lose this from here surely.
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
July 14 2016 10:16 GMT
#143
dark so dead
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:16 GMT
#144
Dark should just leave already
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 10:18 GMT
#145
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
43%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
 
57%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 10:19 GMT
#146
Nice.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 14 2016 10:19 GMT
#147
Zested him like a boss :D
Revolutionist fan
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:19 GMT
#148
Zest just slightly too cautious

very very slightly
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 10:19 GMT
#149
On July 14 2016 19:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Zest just slightly too cautious

very very slightly


I think the thought process there was "he can't do anything so I can do everything"
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
July 14 2016 10:20 GMT
#150
Dark, basically, is only capable of cheese.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 10:20 GMT
#151
Come on, Dark!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:20 GMT
#152
On July 14 2016 19:19 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Zest just slightly too cautious

very very slightly


I think the thought process there was "he can't do anything so I can do everything"

I mean nothing wrong with that but he prolonged Dark's death animation by a good 10 minutes
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:21 GMT
#153
On July 14 2016 19:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:19 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 19:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Zest just slightly too cautious

very very slightly


I think the thought process there was "he can't do anything so I can do everything"

I mean nothing wrong with that but he prolonged Dark's death animation by a good 10 minutes

Was the game even 10 minutes long?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:21 GMT
#154
On July 14 2016 19:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:19 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 19:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Zest just slightly too cautious

very very slightly


I think the thought process there was "he can't do anything so I can do everything"

I mean nothing wrong with that but he prolonged Dark's death animation by a good 10 minutes

he wanted to enjoy his only win this series
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 10:22 GMT
#155
On July 14 2016 19:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:19 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 19:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Zest just slightly too cautious

very very slightly


I think the thought process there was "he can't do anything so I can do everything"

I mean nothing wrong with that but he prolonged Dark's death animation by a good 10 minutes


He did, but I like that vs zerg. It's easy to fuck up against ravager/ling sometimes, but no real way to screw up with mass blink/sentry and a 4th base for safety
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:22 GMT
#156
On July 14 2016 19:21 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 19:19 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 19:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Zest just slightly too cautious

very very slightly


I think the thought process there was "he can't do anything so I can do everything"

I mean nothing wrong with that but he prolonged Dark's death animation by a good 10 minutes

Was the game even 10 minutes long?

yeah I was a little hyperbolic here
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:22 GMT
#157
On July 14 2016 19:21 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 14 2016 19:19 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 19:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Zest just slightly too cautious

very very slightly


I think the thought process there was "he can't do anything so I can do everything"

I mean nothing wrong with that but he prolonged Dark's death animation by a good 10 minutes

he wanted to enjoy his only win this series

ha ha ha
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:25 GMT
#158
Zest does this 2 oracles thing every freaking game vZ I wonder why they're surprised
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:25 GMT
#159
On July 14 2016 19:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Zest does this 2 oracles thing every freaking game vZ I wonder why they're surprised

Take a guess.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:26 GMT
#160
On July 14 2016 19:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Zest does this 2 oracles thing every freaking game vZ I wonder why they're surprised

Do you really think that any caster who isn't named Artosis watches Starcraft games?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:27 GMT
#161
On July 14 2016 19:26 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Zest does this 2 oracles thing every freaking game vZ I wonder why they're surprised

Do you really think that any caster who isn't named Artosis watches Starcraft games?

they at least watched the ones they casted

early Alzheimer ?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:28 GMT
#162
so Dark just amoves now and wins, right?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 10:29 GMT
#163
Haven't seen this in a little while.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 10:29 GMT
#164
wow that was the best possible defense by Dark.
I though he would lose way more
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 10:29 GMT
#165
Should bring a Defiler for Dark Swarm too
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
July 14 2016 10:30 GMT
#166
10/10 probe micro
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 10:30 GMT
#167
is this.. a 1-1 score? :o
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:30 GMT
#168
Zest's multitasking is shite
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 10:30 GMT
#169
This looks more like the Zest PvZ that I know.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:30 GMT
#170
I love when Zest gets rekt by a bit of multitasking.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:30 GMT
#171
Dark learning from European Zergs
Liquipedia"Expert"
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
July 14 2016 10:30 GMT
#172
Awesome lurker play
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:30 GMT
#173
lol Zest seriously ?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:31 GMT
#174
On July 14 2016 19:29 Heartland wrote:
Should bring a Defiler for Dark Swarm too

I remember you used to bring vipers with muta clouds vs mech in HotS to blind the turrets, that was cool. If only blinded cannons lost detection...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
July 14 2016 10:31 GMT
#175
On July 14 2016 19:29 Yello wrote:
wow that was the best possible defense by Dark.
I though he would lose way more

Yeah, literally. That was beautifully played out, I thought that he would lose to this kind of pressure and harassment just like majority of Zergs when they are not in their comfort zone.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:33 GMT
#176
I think if Zest had waited with the sentry drop until charge was done Dark's main base would have been rekt.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:36 GMT
#177
This is like watching BW ZvP where Protoss slowly loses their mind.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:37 GMT
#178
Dark let this get awkwardly close.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:37 GMT
#179
VALUE BANELINGS
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:38 GMT
#180
On July 14 2016 19:37 Elentos wrote:
Dark let this get awkwardly close.

hydra/lurker is really awful at attacking IAC, he has to choke Zest slowly
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:38 GMT
#181
Zest is just going to get mined out it seems
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 10:39 GMT
#182
Well Zest is dead to Broods now. But Dark pretty slack not winning earlier.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 10:39 GMT
#183
Barrier pretty good there
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:39 GMT
#184
yeah gglords
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 10:39 GMT
#185
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (8)
 
80%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
10%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:39 GMT
#186
Zest is so poor, only producing 2 obs lol
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:40 GMT
#187
pretty impressive by Zest to have been able to stall the game for so long. I wonder if Dark wasn't too slow on the blords transition though.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
July 14 2016 10:40 GMT
#188
Atleast throw away your army for the spectators zzz
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-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 14 2016 10:41 GMT
#189
A pleasure to watch this series!
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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 14 2016 10:41 GMT
#190
On July 14 2016 19:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
pretty impressive by Zest to have been able to stall the game for so long. I wonder if Dark wasn't too slow on the blords transition though.

Dark really did not have a chance to kill Zest before broods without taking a huge risk. Dark played it pretty safely and did not rush to broods.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:41 GMT
#191
On July 14 2016 19:41 -KG- wrote:
A pleasure to watch this series!

it's pretty high level yeah
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:41 GMT
#192
On July 14 2016 19:41 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
pretty impressive by Zest to have been able to stall the game for so long. I wonder if Dark wasn't too slow on the blords transition though.

Dark really did not have a chance to kill Zest before broods without taking a huge risk. Dark played it pretty safely and did not rush to broods.

I guess so yeah. His macro ZvP actually doesn't look too bad.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 10:42 GMT
#193
A series, I forgot they existed
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 10:42 GMT
#194
gtr is not going to cast more at all?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:43 GMT
#195
This is supposed to be a pretty good Zerg map, let's go Dark!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3609 Posts
July 14 2016 10:43 GMT
#196
...gtr leaving?
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:44 GMT
#197


He announced it awhile ago
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 10:44 GMT
#198
first time I see someone playing on this map. Is this like Ulrena but good? xD
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 14 2016 10:44 GMT
#199
I will miss gtr. He should cast more.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:45 GMT
#200
On July 14 2016 19:44 Yello wrote:
first time I see someone playing on this map. Is this like Ulrena but good? xD

I like it. I liked the games I saw on it and I enjoyed the ones I played yesterday.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:46 GMT
#201
On July 14 2016 19:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:44 Yello wrote:
first time I see someone playing on this map. Is this like Ulrena but good? xD

I like it. I liked the games I saw on it and I enjoyed the ones I played yesterday.

I like to think of it as Newkirk Precinct that doesn't make you regret playing Starcraft
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:48 GMT
#202
8 RANGE BITCH
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:49 GMT
#203
range queens imba
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 10:49:40
July 14 2016 10:49 GMT
#204
holy crap my stream just died. Banelings?

okay back online. This looks like Zest is doing well
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:49 GMT
#205
RIP Dark, this aint gonna work
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:49 GMT
#206
sick timing 10 seconds before his +1
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 10:50 GMT
#207
Sick hold
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
July 14 2016 10:50 GMT
#208
"I guess if he does not micro then i win"
That's what Darks attack looked like
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:50 GMT
#209
Adept upgrade done, Dark is donezo
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:51 GMT
#210
pretty interesting strat by Dark
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 10:51 GMT
#211
detonate the banes ffs
I Protoss winner, could it be?
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
July 14 2016 10:52 GMT
#212
Lmao Zest
way to throw it
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 10:52 GMT
#213
Lol wtf he shaded onto banes and lost everything?
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
July 14 2016 10:52 GMT
#214
Aderps
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:52 GMT
#215
DAAAAAAAAAAAARK
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 10:52 GMT
#216
that was awesome. Just hearing the baneling sound and suddenly there's no more adepts
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 14 2016 10:52 GMT
#217
On July 14 2016 19:52 Phredxor wrote:
Lol wtf he shaded onto banes and lost everything?

"Who cares" - Observer.
why even
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:53 GMT
#218
Now Zest is dead? lol
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-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 14 2016 10:53 GMT
#219
Would have liked to see what happened.....
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:53 GMT
#220
WTFFFFFF
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:53 GMT
#221
did Zest just shade on banelings ???
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:53 GMT
#222
On July 14 2016 19:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
did Zest just shade on banelings ???

he did but it was off camera
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:53 GMT
#223
well gg Ej you had foreseen it
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:53 GMT
#224
On July 14 2016 19:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
did Zest just shade on banelings ???


Looked like it, he was morphing a lot of banes near the third beforehand
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 10:53 GMT
#225
Way to throw Zest.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 10:54 GMT
#226
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (7)
 
58%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
 
17%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
25%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 14 2016 10:54 GMT
#227
DAAAAAARKKKKK!!!! WHO IS BEST NOW?!?!?!?!?!
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
July 14 2016 10:54 GMT
#228
Dark the king defend his throne!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:54 GMT
#229
Fugly game. That shade onto the banes was so stupid.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
July 14 2016 10:55 GMT
#230
Good for Dark!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 10:55 GMT
#231
Welcome to the Darkest timeline.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 10:55 GMT
#232
I like zerg, you can never know whether they're making more units to keep all inning you or if they're making 20 drones
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:55 GMT
#233
DARK

FOR THE SWARM
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
July 14 2016 10:55 GMT
#234
What a monster
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 10:56 GMT
#235
darkuuu
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 10:56 GMT
#236
From "game almost won" to "pretty much dead" in one shade
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
July 14 2016 10:57 GMT
#237
how did Dark play
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 10:57 GMT
#238
Oh well. Zest got closer than I expected to beating him tbh.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 10:58 GMT
#239
shitty shades from Zest

also get out NASL sound guy
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 10:58 GMT
#240
On July 14 2016 19:57 Alchemik wrote:
how did Dark play

well

a lot of agression and multitasking (lurker drops in game 2 on KSS after a succesful blink sentry defense ; ling bane in game 3 on New Gettysburg, a pretty messy one)
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 11:01:30
July 14 2016 10:59 GMT
#241
On July 14 2016 19:57 Alchemik wrote:
how did Dark play

failed roach allin on Frozen

lurker/hydra turtle with drops into broods >>> blink opening on KSS

ling/bane queen semi all-in with bane drops on Gettysburg, Zest defends and almost kills him with adept counter attack, but then shades entire army on banelings
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 10:59 GMT
#242
Dark plays against Group D not Group B? unless they changed it...
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 11:00 GMT
#243
On July 14 2016 19:59 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:57 Alchemik wrote:
how did Dark play

failed roach allin on Frozen

lurker/hydra turtle with drops into broods >>> blink opening on KSS

ling/bane queen semi all-in with bane drops on Gettysburg, Zest defends and almost kills him with adept counter attack, but then shaded entire army on banelings


Was already over at that point though
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
July 14 2016 11:01 GMT
#244
On July 14 2016 19:55 Olli wrote:
I like zerg, you can never know whether they're making more units to keep all inning you or if they're making 20 drones


As much as i despise zerg, that was actually just a good adjustment by Dark. When Protoss opens stargate and then gets glaives that timing is the only thing he could be doing, Dark just reacted well.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 11:01 GMT
#245
LP says 1st place A vs 2nd place D though

Damnit Zest I wanted you to advance before I have to leave for my exam.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
July 14 2016 11:03 GMT
#246
I heard ling/bane and was like, "there really are people who still die to it?" but the circumstances make sense
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 11:03 GMT
#247
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/508591-2016-ssl-season-2-qualifiers?page=3#56
Yeah it's A vs D
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 11:05:45
July 14 2016 11:05 GMT
#248
On July 14 2016 20:03 Inflicted wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/508591-2016-ssl-season-2-qualifiers?page=3#56
Yeah it's A vs D

Maybe they changed it?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 11:06 GMT
#249
On July 14 2016 20:01 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 19:55 Olli wrote:
I like zerg, you can never know whether they're making more units to keep all inning you or if they're making 20 drones


As much as i despise zerg, that was actually just a good adjustment by Dark. When Protoss opens stargate and then gets glaives that timing is the only thing he could be doing, Dark just reacted well.


He could just macro out of it though after holding that.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
berndniph
Profile Joined April 2011
95 Posts
July 14 2016 11:09 GMT
#250
On July 14 2016 18:30 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:29 berndniph wrote:
can't believe het got out of his group and sOs didn't.

this is why sc2 needs more seeded players.
no one cares about trust or aLive if there is a possibility to watch sOs or Maru.
Qualifiers are still too volatile.

How can the Blizzcon champion not play in the ssl ?


He won Blizzcon 8 months ago in a different game. There was no basis to seed sOs into SSL.


the world champion should always be allowed to play, since he is the champion for ONE year.

personally i'm only watching games with players i follow (Maru, sOs, Dark, Byun)
If my favorite Players isn't playing, i just do something else.
It's the same in every other sport, i just watch my favorites teams or players.

So because of this shitty qualifiers i have no interest in watching ssl.
i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one prefering a group with "Maru, Dark, Zest and Classic".
i just don't care about a lot of players. (the whole foreigner scene for example)
Even if the big guys underperform, the games are much more exiting than watching trust getting stomped by dark in 5 minutes.

[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 11:10 GMT
#251
On July 14 2016 20:09 berndniph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:30 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:29 berndniph wrote:
can't believe het got out of his group and sOs didn't.

this is why sc2 needs more seeded players.
no one cares about trust or aLive if there is a possibility to watch sOs or Maru.
Qualifiers are still too volatile.

How can the Blizzcon champion not play in the ssl ?


He won Blizzcon 8 months ago in a different game. There was no basis to seed sOs into SSL.


the world champion should always be allowed to play, since he is the champion for ONE year.

personally i'm only watching games with players i follow (Maru, sOs, Dark, Byun)
If my favorite Players isn't playing, i just do something else.
It's the same in every other sport, i just watch my favorites teams or players.

So because of this shitty qualifiers i have no interest in watching ssl.
i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one prefering a group with "Maru, Dark, Zest and Classic".
i just don't care about a lot of players. (the whole foreigner scene for example)
Even if the big guys underperform, the games are much more exiting than watching trust getting stomped by dark in 5 minutes.


watch out as Trust beats aLive and then upsets Zest

name is not everything and this game is no exception ^^
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 14 2016 11:10 GMT
#252
On July 14 2016 20:09 berndniph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:30 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:29 berndniph wrote:
can't believe het got out of his group and sOs didn't.

this is why sc2 needs more seeded players.
no one cares about trust or aLive if there is a possibility to watch sOs or Maru.
Qualifiers are still too volatile.

How can the Blizzcon champion not play in the ssl ?


He won Blizzcon 8 months ago in a different game. There was no basis to seed sOs into SSL.


the world champion should always be allowed to play, since he is the champion for ONE year.

personally i'm only watching games with players i follow (Maru, sOs, Dark, Byun)
If my favorite Players isn't playing, i just do something else.
It's the same in every other sport, i just watch my favorites teams or players.

So because of this shitty qualifiers i have no interest in watching ssl.
i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one prefering a group with "Maru, Dark, Zest and Classic".
i just don't care about a lot of players. (the whole foreigner scene for example)
Even if the big guys underperform, the games are much more exiting than watching trust getting stomped by dark in 5 minutes.


Different game.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 11:12:27
July 14 2016 11:11 GMT
#253
On July 14 2016 20:09 berndniph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 18:30 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:29 berndniph wrote:
can't believe het got out of his group and sOs didn't.

this is why sc2 needs more seeded players.
no one cares about trust or aLive if there is a possibility to watch sOs or Maru.
Qualifiers are still too volatile.

How can the Blizzcon champion not play in the ssl ?


He won Blizzcon 8 months ago in a different game. There was no basis to seed sOs into SSL.


the world champion should always be allowed to play, since he is the champion for ONE year.

personally i'm only watching games with players i follow (Maru, sOs, Dark, Byun)
If my favorite Players isn't playing, i just do something else.
It's the same in every other sport, i just watch my favorites teams or players.

So because of this shitty qualifiers i have no interest in watching ssl.
i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one prefering a group with "Maru, Dark, Zest and Classic".
i just don't care about a lot of players. (the whole foreigner scene for example)
Even if the big guys underperform, the games are much more exiting than watching trust getting stomped by dark in 5 minutes.


if sOs was any better than "mediocre", he would qualify, simple as that
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16058 Posts
July 14 2016 11:11 GMT
#254
that's weird
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 11:11 GMT
#255
Observer rush
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 11:12 GMT
#256
This gonna be a good game.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 14 2016 11:12 GMT
#257
Proxy colossus hype
Neosteel Enthusiast
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 11:13 GMT
#258
Wow sick turret mindgame
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 11:13 GMT
#259
this game just went full bonkers within the first 2 minutes
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 11:13 GMT
#260
On July 14 2016 20:13 Inflicted wrote:
Wow sick turret mindgame


It's gonna block his SCVs when they're trying to run from the disruptor
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 11:13 GMT
#261
On July 14 2016 20:13 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:13 Inflicted wrote:
Wow sick turret mindgame


It's gonna block his SCVs when they're trying to run from the disruptor


He can cancel when he sees the disruptor though
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3609 Posts
July 14 2016 11:13 GMT
#262
colossus + disruptor drop hype
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
July 14 2016 11:14 GMT
#263
Proxy colossus? We just have to Trust that his opponent won't be aLive after this.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 11:14 GMT
#264
6 SCVs & 2 MULEs rip
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 14 2016 11:14 GMT
#265
This looks strong
Neosteel Enthusiast
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 11:14 GMT
#266
that was so awful by aLive
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 11:15 GMT
#267
So much damage but he has barely any army to defend with.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 11:15 GMT
#268
this would look way weaker if alive just went factory-starport at home and got a quick viking or liberator out to push the prism away
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 14 2016 11:15 GMT
#269
Wonder if it would be better to just do nothing with your scvs
Neosteel Enthusiast
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 11:15 GMT
#270
aLive would take less damage if he didn't split
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3609 Posts
July 14 2016 11:15 GMT
#271
...aLive not on top today...
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 11:16 GMT
#272
On July 14 2016 20:15 Yello wrote:
this would look way weaker if alive just went factory-starport at home and got a quick viking or liberator out to push the prism away

there's a reason you proxy this
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 11:17 GMT
#273
That WP is family of GTR
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 11:17 GMT
#274
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
 
71%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
29%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 14 2016 11:17 GMT
#275
That was some curbstomping from Trust
Neosteel Enthusiast
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 11:17 GMT
#276
KT fans will feel so confused if Trust advances over Zest
Liquipedia"Expert"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 11:17 GMT
#277
If Trust also eliminates aLive and Zest after sOs xD
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 11:18 GMT
#278
So what are the odds on Trust advacing over Zest then getting kicked out of KT?
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
July 14 2016 11:19 GMT
#279
On July 14 2016 20:11 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:09 berndniph wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:30 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:29 berndniph wrote:
can't believe het got out of his group and sOs didn't.

this is why sc2 needs more seeded players.
no one cares about trust or aLive if there is a possibility to watch sOs or Maru.
Qualifiers are still too volatile.

How can the Blizzcon champion not play in the ssl ?


He won Blizzcon 8 months ago in a different game. There was no basis to seed sOs into SSL.


the world champion should always be allowed to play, since he is the champion for ONE year.

personally i'm only watching games with players i follow (Maru, sOs, Dark, Byun)
If my favorite Players isn't playing, i just do something else.
It's the same in every other sport, i just watch my favorites teams or players.

So because of this shitty qualifiers i have no interest in watching ssl.
i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one prefering a group with "Maru, Dark, Zest and Classic".
i just don't care about a lot of players. (the whole foreigner scene for example)
Even if the big guys underperform, the games are much more exiting than watching trust getting stomped by dark in 5 minutes.


if sOs was any better than "mediocre", he would qualify, simple as that


So I guess maru is also a mediocre player huh
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 11:19 GMT
#280
On July 14 2016 20:18 Phredxor wrote:
So what are the odds on Trust advacing over Zest then getting kicked out of KT?

He won't get kicked but we'll never see him again.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 11:19 GMT
#281
On July 14 2016 20:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:18 Phredxor wrote:
So what are the odds on Trust advacing over Zest then getting kicked out of KT?

He won't get kicked but we'll never see him again.

They'd bring out the gimp
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 11:20 GMT
#282
On July 14 2016 20:19 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:11 Ej_ wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:09 berndniph wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:30 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:29 berndniph wrote:
can't believe het got out of his group and sOs didn't.

this is why sc2 needs more seeded players.
no one cares about trust or aLive if there is a possibility to watch sOs or Maru.
Qualifiers are still too volatile.

How can the Blizzcon champion not play in the ssl ?


He won Blizzcon 8 months ago in a different game. There was no basis to seed sOs into SSL.


the world champion should always be allowed to play, since he is the champion for ONE year.

personally i'm only watching games with players i follow (Maru, sOs, Dark, Byun)
If my favorite Players isn't playing, i just do something else.
It's the same in every other sport, i just watch my favorites teams or players.

So because of this shitty qualifiers i have no interest in watching ssl.
i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one prefering a group with "Maru, Dark, Zest and Classic".
i just don't care about a lot of players. (the whole foreigner scene for example)
Even if the big guys underperform, the games are much more exiting than watching trust getting stomped by dark in 5 minutes.


if sOs was any better than "mediocre", he would qualify, simple as that


So I guess maru is also a mediocre player huh

do you really want me to answer this question :< ?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 11:20 GMT
#283
On July 14 2016 20:19 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:11 Ej_ wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:09 berndniph wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:30 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2016 18:29 berndniph wrote:
can't believe het got out of his group and sOs didn't.

this is why sc2 needs more seeded players.
no one cares about trust or aLive if there is a possibility to watch sOs or Maru.
Qualifiers are still too volatile.

How can the Blizzcon champion not play in the ssl ?


He won Blizzcon 8 months ago in a different game. There was no basis to seed sOs into SSL.


the world champion should always be allowed to play, since he is the champion for ONE year.

personally i'm only watching games with players i follow (Maru, sOs, Dark, Byun)
If my favorite Players isn't playing, i just do something else.
It's the same in every other sport, i just watch my favorites teams or players.

So because of this shitty qualifiers i have no interest in watching ssl.
i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one prefering a group with "Maru, Dark, Zest and Classic".
i just don't care about a lot of players. (the whole foreigner scene for example)
Even if the big guys underperform, the games are much more exiting than watching trust getting stomped by dark in 5 minutes.


if sOs was any better than "mediocre", he would qualify, simple as that


So I guess maru is also a mediocre player huh


Yeah
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 11:23 GMT
#284
that build by aLive is so oldschool, I like it
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 11:23 GMT
#285
Pretty sure that wasn't meant to snipe a prism, it was to force an overcharge to then attack with concussive shell. It's a HotS build
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 11:24 GMT
#286
He lost a prism and a stalker, come on, it's not like he has to all-in because of that.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 11:25 GMT
#287
On July 14 2016 20:23 Olli wrote:
Pretty sure that wasn't meant to snipe a prism, it was to force an overcharge to then attack with concussive shell. It's a HotS build


yeah, aLive got lucky with his movement and the prism movement
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 11:25 GMT
#288
On July 14 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote:
He lost a prism and a stalker, come on, it's not like he has to all-in because of that.


He was doing a 3gate adept attack, so it does suck that it got interrupted. It does help that aLive himself was planning an aggressive moveout that he had to back out of, so they're somewhat even
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 11:27:50
July 14 2016 11:26 GMT
#289
aLive has to attack now or he's losing his timing

edit: yeah, I think he missed it
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 11:27 GMT
#290
On July 14 2016 20:25 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote:
He lost a prism and a stalker, come on, it's not like he has to all-in because of that.


He was doing a 3gate adept attack, so it does suck that it got interrupted. It does help that aLive himself was planning an aggressive moveout that he had to back out of, so they're somewhat even

I think that was supposed to be 3-gate stalker like Zest did vs Maru in Challenge.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 11:28 GMT
#291
On July 14 2016 20:27 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:25 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote:
He lost a prism and a stalker, come on, it's not like he has to all-in because of that.


He was doing a 3gate adept attack, so it does suck that it got interrupted. It does help that aLive himself was planning an aggressive moveout that he had to back out of, so they're somewhat even

I think that was supposed to be 3-gate stalker like Zest did vs Maru in Challenge.


Doesn't Zest do that with blink?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 11:29 GMT
#292
On July 14 2016 20:28 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:27 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:25 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote:
He lost a prism and a stalker, come on, it's not like he has to all-in because of that.


He was doing a 3gate adept attack, so it does suck that it got interrupted. It does help that aLive himself was planning an aggressive moveout that he had to back out of, so they're somewhat even

I think that was supposed to be 3-gate stalker like Zest did vs Maru in Challenge.


Doesn't Zest do that with blink?

He did it without blink on King Sejong because Maru's opening had basically no units on the defense.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 14 2016 11:29 GMT
#293
Trust adepted his gameplan
Neosteel Enthusiast
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 11:29 GMT
#294
aLive getting outplayed so hard
Liquipedia"Expert"
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37064 Posts
July 14 2016 11:29 GMT
#295
So happy to see Dark made it out. I'm even happier to see that he made it out first. But the thing that makes me the most happy? Is that he beat Zest while doing it.
WAY TO GO DARK! MAH BOY!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 14 2016 11:31 GMT
#296
aLive doesn't target fire the immortal :x

He's dEad
Neosteel Enthusiast
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 11:31 GMT
#297
So many Artosis pylons today
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 11:32 GMT
#298
On July 14 2016 20:31 Penev wrote:
So many Artosis pylons today

all of them on KT. Coincidence?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 11:33 GMT
#299
I love scrappy games! So entertaining to watch
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 11:33 GMT
#300
On July 14 2016 20:32 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:31 Penev wrote:
So many Artosis pylons today

all of them on KT. Coincidence?

KT Artosis confirmed?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 14 2016 11:33 GMT
#301
On July 14 2016 20:32 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:31 Penev wrote:
So many Artosis pylons today

all of them on KT. Coincidence?

KT.Tosis blizzcon 2017 winner
Neosteel Enthusiast
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
July 14 2016 11:33 GMT
#302
You Trust in your one single pylon too much.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
July 14 2016 11:34 GMT
#303
Terrible defense by Trust, hope he loses now.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 11:34 GMT
#304
I want Artosis flair
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 11:35 GMT
#305
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (8)
 
57%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
 
29%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
14%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 11:35 GMT
#306
what a game
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 14 2016 11:35 GMT
#307
What!???
Neosteel Enthusiast
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 11:36 GMT
#308
Another series! I feel like a spoiled brat
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 11:36 GMT
#309
who else absolutely loved that game ?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
July 14 2016 11:37 GMT
#310
And then when they think they're done they realize they still have to beat Zest to advance
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 11:38 GMT
#311
On July 14 2016 20:37 Elentos wrote:
And then when they think they're done they realize they still have to beat Zest to advance

I'm afraid for Zest if Trust goes through, after all it's a teamkill and Trust may know things other Protosses don't to abuse his PvP.
Gawd
Profile Joined February 2016
27 Posts
July 14 2016 11:38 GMT
#312
Alive had 3 scv s at the end of that fight.!!
Starcraft starwars startrek and batman
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 11:38 GMT
#313
On July 14 2016 20:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
who else absolutely loved that game ?


according to the poll only one person didn't :D

I'm kinda sad that the series will be decided on the most boring map in the pool
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 11:40 GMT
#314
On July 14 2016 20:38 Gawd wrote:
Alive had 3 scv s at the end of that fight.!!

but he had bases and Trust was never going to get another base with the army supply aLive could throw at him
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 11:40 GMT
#315
Trust always getting such late mscs
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 11:42 GMT
#316
aLive seems in a very good position to get the third place
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 11:43:22
July 14 2016 11:43 GMT
#317
aaah that broken spot

oh nvm stalkers got the lib
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 11:44 GMT
#318
ouch, murdered
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 14 2016 11:44 GMT
#319
On July 14 2016 20:42 [PkF] Wire wrote:
aLive seems in a very good position to get the third place

well not anymore xD
Neosteel Enthusiast
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 11:44 GMT
#320
yeah and like this Zest gets a dangerous PvP teamkill instead of a peaceful PvT
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 11:45 GMT
#321
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
17%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
 
83%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 11:45 GMT
#322
Lol aLive you scrub.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 11:45 GMT
#323
On July 14 2016 20:44 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:42 [PkF] Wire wrote:
aLive seems in a very good position to get the third place

well not anymore xD

yeah he got really murdered by the drop
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 11:45 GMT
#324
On July 14 2016 20:45 Phredxor wrote:
Lol aLive you scrub.

at least he won the game of the day
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 11:46 GMT
#325
On July 14 2016 20:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:
yeah and like this Zest gets a dangerous PvP teamkill instead of a peaceful PvT

Nice to have something at stake
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 14 2016 11:46 GMT
#326
shit I have to miss that last series. I hope it's good. Have fun guys ^^
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 11:49:17
July 14 2016 11:46 GMT
#327
I really really really do hate PO ... not because aLive lost (not a fan of him) but this game reminds me of my laddergames against Protoss.

Oh you're trying to harass? PO! Oh you're going in a second time? PO again!... and a third time... and a fourth time.

Edit: And while we're at it , have another PO at the front. >_>
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
July 14 2016 11:47 GMT
#328
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 11:49 GMT
#329
My concern for Zest is rising.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 11:49 GMT
#330
<3 lalalalalalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaa <3
I Protoss winner, could it be?
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
July 14 2016 11:50 GMT
#331
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
July 14 2016 11:52 GMT
#332
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


but he shades all his adepts into banelings


i /facepalm at that...
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 14 2016 11:53 GMT
#333
On July 14 2016 20:52 Kaizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


but he shades all his adepts into banelings


i /facepalm at that...


They were decent games though
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
July 14 2016 11:54 GMT
#334
What am I even watching.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 11:54 GMT
#335
On July 14 2016 20:54 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
What am I even watching.

true love
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 11:56:57
July 14 2016 11:56 GMT
#336
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 11:59 GMT
#337
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


I prefer the way Olli describes it, those games were entertaining and stuff was happening. Especially the 2nd game, lots of good army movement by Zest, never overcommitting but always being active on the map.
The 3rd game was really scrappy and fun to watch as well
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 14 2016 12:02 GMT
#338
Zest flawless victory
~~(,,ºº>
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:02:46
July 14 2016 12:02 GMT
#339
On July 14 2016 20:59 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


I prefer the way Olli describes it, those games were entertaining and stuff was happening. Especially the 2nd game, lots of good army movement by Zest, never overcommitting but always being active on the map.
The 3rd game was really scrappy and fun to watch as well


I loved the first stage of the all in. Ling/bane/transfuse vs adept, msc and oracle micro, baneling drops into the main vs really fast probe splits and warpins
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
July 14 2016 12:02 GMT
#340
On July 14 2016 20:59 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


I prefer the way Olli describes it, those games were entertaining and stuff was happening. Especially the 2nd game, lots of good army movement by Zest, never overcommitting but always being active on the map.
The 3rd game was really scrappy and fun to watch as well

"Lurker turtle into gglords" may be the words of a biased individual by my expert assessment, unless we watched two different games.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:05:19
July 14 2016 12:04 GMT
#341
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


Thanks for the recap.

Just a curious note: I notice that the term "allin" gets thrown about to describe heavily invested attack. But isn't an allin by definition a 'flip' which decides the match there and then (at least in poker)? If the allin failed but merely puts the player far behind and capable to mount another allin or macro up, can it really be considered an allin? Shouldn't an allin be limited to really extreme plays like 4pool in BW or one base vs two base plays? Just curious on your thoughts.
gg no re thx
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 12:05 GMT
#342
Trust is essentially dead here
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
July 14 2016 12:05 GMT
#343
On July 14 2016 20:59 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


I prefer the way Olli describes it, those games were entertaining and stuff was happening. Especially the 2nd game, lots of good army movement by Zest, never overcommitting but always being active on the map.
The 3rd game was really scrappy and fun to watch as well


Well at least the games were good, will catch the vods later and not cringe in agony.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
July 14 2016 12:06 GMT
#344
On July 14 2016 21:02 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:59 Yello wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


I prefer the way Olli describes it, those games were entertaining and stuff was happening. Especially the 2nd game, lots of good army movement by Zest, never overcommitting but always being active on the map.
The 3rd game was really scrappy and fun to watch as well

"Lurker turtle into gglords" may be the words of a biased individual by my expert assessment, unless we watched two different games.


Dont be so rude man ;D , i didnt catch the whole series cause i am at work
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 12:07 GMT
#345
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

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★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
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★★★ - Good game (0)
 
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★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
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4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

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(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 12:07 GMT
#346
On July 14 2016 21:04 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


Thanks for the recap.

Just a curious note: I notice that the term "allin" gets thrown about to describe heavily invested attack. But isn't an allin by definition a 'flip' which decides the match there and then (at least in poker)? If the allin failed but merely puts the player far behind and capable to mount another allin or macro up, can it really be considered an allin? Shouldn't an allin be limited to really extreme plays like 4pool in BW or one base vs two base plays? Just curious on your thoughts.


An all in to me is a strategy that, if it doesn't do the damage it's designed to, will have no chance to win the game.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 12:07 GMT
#347
On July 14 2016 21:05 Kaizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:59 Yello wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


I prefer the way Olli describes it, those games were entertaining and stuff was happening. Especially the 2nd game, lots of good army movement by Zest, never overcommitting but always being active on the map.
The 3rd game was really scrappy and fun to watch as well


Well at least the games were good, will catch the vods later and not cringe in agony.


a warning: only watch Dark vs Trust if you are a Zerg and like to watch some well-executed all-ins totally destroying a player who looked quite lost
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:09:26
July 14 2016 12:08 GMT
#348
On July 14 2016 21:04 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


Thanks for the recap.

Just a curious note: I notice that the term "allin" gets thrown about to describe heavily invested attack. But isn't an allin by definition a 'flip' which decides the match there and then (at least in poker)? If the allin failed but merely puts the player far behind and capable to mount another allin or macro up, can it really be considered an allin? Shouldn't an allin be limited to really extreme plays like 4pool in BW or one base vs two base plays? Just curious on your thoughts.


In poker an allin isn't necessarily a flip (in terms of chance to win), it's just when someone bets all his chips (ie, either i win this pot or i'm out of the game). That's also basically what starcraft allins are; you either deal game-ending damage or you're out of the game.

Of course in poker it's easy to tell if someone gets busted or not, in starcraft defining game ending damage can be trickier.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
July 14 2016 12:08 GMT
#349
On July 14 2016 21:07 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 21:05 Kaizor wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:59 Yello wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


I prefer the way Olli describes it, those games were entertaining and stuff was happening. Especially the 2nd game, lots of good army movement by Zest, never overcommitting but always being active on the map.
The 3rd game was really scrappy and fun to watch as well


Well at least the games were good, will catch the vods later and not cringe in agony.


a warning: only watch Dark vs Trust if you are a Zerg and like to watch some well-executed all-ins totally destroying a player who looked quite lost


Luckily i am a lowly gold zerg who would definitely relish watching some protoss get demolished after getting demolished myself countless times by the big book of protoss bs.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
July 14 2016 12:09 GMT
#350
On July 14 2016 21:06 fealx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 21:02 sparklyresidue wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:59 Yello wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


I prefer the way Olli describes it, those games were entertaining and stuff was happening. Especially the 2nd game, lots of good army movement by Zest, never overcommitting but always being active on the map.
The 3rd game was really scrappy and fun to watch as well

"Lurker turtle into gglords" may be the words of a biased individual by my expert assessment, unless we watched two different games.


Dont be so rude man ;D , i didnt catch the whole series cause i am at work

Sorry, it's my nature! I thought the lurker drops were cool.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:13:39
July 14 2016 12:12 GMT
#351
On July 14 2016 21:08 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 21:04 RKC wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


Thanks for the recap.

Just a curious note: I notice that the term "allin" gets thrown about to describe heavily invested attack. But isn't an allin by definition a 'flip' which decides the match there and then (at least in poker)? If the allin failed but merely puts the player far behind and capable to mount another allin or macro up, can it really be considered an allin? Shouldn't an allin be limited to really extreme plays like 4pool in BW or one base vs two base plays? Just curious on your thoughts.


In poker an allin isn't necessarily a flip (in terms of chance to win), it's just when someone bets all his chips (ie, either i win this pot or i'm out of the game). That's also basically what starcraft allins are; you either deal game-ending damage or you're out of the game.

Of course in poker it's easy to tell if someone gets busted or not, in starcraft defining game ending damage can be trickier.


It doesn't have to be game-ending damage in my book. Say you're on two bases and committing to killing a third base and if you succeed, you stay alive. That's not necessarily game-ending, but you get to continue the game. If you fail, you're dead. That's also an all in imo.

That's just my definition though. Maybe my interpretation is a bit liberal.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:13:16
July 14 2016 12:12 GMT
#352
Ah geez, wrong buttons and stuff
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:13:55
July 14 2016 12:13 GMT
#353
Nice scout Zest. Why would you try to scout tech buildings anyway?
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
July 14 2016 12:13 GMT
#354
On July 14 2016 21:12 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 21:08 Teoita wrote:
On July 14 2016 21:04 RKC wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


Thanks for the recap.

Just a curious note: I notice that the term "allin" gets thrown about to describe heavily invested attack. But isn't an allin by definition a 'flip' which decides the match there and then (at least in poker)? If the allin failed but merely puts the player far behind and capable to mount another allin or macro up, can it really be considered an allin? Shouldn't an allin be limited to really extreme plays like 4pool in BW or one base vs two base plays? Just curious on your thoughts.


In poker an allin isn't necessarily a flip (in terms of chance to win), it's just when someone bets all his chips (ie, either i win this pot or i'm out of the game). That's also basically what starcraft allins are; you either deal game-ending damage or you're out of the game.

Of course in poker it's easy to tell if someone gets busted or not, in starcraft defining game ending damage can be trickier.


It doesn't have to be game-ending damage in my book. Say you're on two bases and committing to killing a third base and if you succeed, you stay alive. That's not necessarily game-ending, but you get to continue the game. If you fail, you're dead.

That's just my definition though. Maybe my interpretation is a bit liberal.


Yea if the game continues on somewhat even foots you could compare it to a split pot in poker, i guess.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 14 2016 12:15 GMT
#355
On July 14 2016 21:08 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 21:04 RKC wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


Thanks for the recap.

Just a curious note: I notice that the term "allin" gets thrown about to describe heavily invested attack. But isn't an allin by definition a 'flip' which decides the match there and then (at least in poker)? If the allin failed but merely puts the player far behind and capable to mount another allin or macro up, can it really be considered an allin? Shouldn't an allin be limited to really extreme plays like 4pool in BW or one base vs two base plays? Just curious on your thoughts.


In poker an allin isn't necessarily a flip (in terms of chance to win), it's just when someone bets all his chips (ie, either i win this pot or i'm out of the game). That's also basically what starcraft allins are; you either deal game-ending damage or you're out of the game.

Of course in poker it's easy to tell if someone gets busted or not, in starcraft defining game ending damage can be trickier.


Sure, 'flip' isn't the best word to use, my mistake. You could have the nuts and allin and be 100% of winning.

Probably 'bust' is a better word. The attack either kills the enemy or you go bust and lose. So a heavy committed attack that fails and leave you far behind isn't necessarily an allin (in poker it would be like putting in 80% of your chips in the pot and losing - you're way far behind but still have a slim chance of coming back). I know we may be pulling hairs here.
gg no re thx
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:16:13
July 14 2016 12:16 GMT
#356
On July 14 2016 21:15 RKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 21:08 Teoita wrote:
On July 14 2016 21:04 RKC wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:56 Olli wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:50 fealx wrote:
On July 14 2016 20:47 Kaizor wrote:
Any kind soul to summarize Dark vs Zest series. Just got back from work.


dont kow what happend in g1 sry but
g2: Lurker turtle + drops into gglords
g3: Failed Semi allin by dark into counterattack by Zest but he shades all his adepts into banelings


G1: Dark tried a roach/ling all in but it did essentially nothing, Zest macro'd up and killed him
G2: Dark defended a pre-lurker attack without really taking any damage, did tons of damage with lurker drops but then Zest did really well with superior army movement. Just didn't have the economy back at home to deal with the BL transition.
G3: Dark did a ling/bane/queen all in, but then decided to all in again behind it, while Zest counterattacked. Dark killed the third, held the attack, won the game. By the time his adepts shaded into banelings, it was essentially already done.


Thanks for the recap.

Just a curious note: I notice that the term "allin" gets thrown about to describe heavily invested attack. But isn't an allin by definition a 'flip' which decides the match there and then (at least in poker)? If the allin failed but merely puts the player far behind and capable to mount another allin or macro up, can it really be considered an allin? Shouldn't an allin be limited to really extreme plays like 4pool in BW or one base vs two base plays? Just curious on your thoughts.


In poker an allin isn't necessarily a flip (in terms of chance to win), it's just when someone bets all his chips (ie, either i win this pot or i'm out of the game). That's also basically what starcraft allins are; you either deal game-ending damage or you're out of the game.

Of course in poker it's easy to tell if someone gets busted or not, in starcraft defining game ending damage can be trickier.


Sure, 'flip' isn't the best word to use, my mistake. You could have the nuts and allin and be 100% of winning.

Probably 'bust' is a better word. The attack either kills the enemy or you go bust and lose. So a heavy committed attack that fails and leave you far behind isn't necessarily an allin (in poker it would be like putting in 80% of your chips in the pot and losing - you're way far behind but still have a slim chance of coming back). I know we may be pulling hairs here.


Yeah that's how i think about it as well.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:21:05
July 14 2016 12:16 GMT
#357
why would you ever fight dts with workers? He could have pulled and not taken any damage if he micros his stalkers

I'd consider that attack by Zest an all-in as well. Trust went for all the tech units while Zest went mass adept-stalker. If Zest doesn't kill him there Trust will have the way better army so he had to commit and subsequently lost the game
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
July 14 2016 12:19 GMT
#358
Another adept suicide
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
July 14 2016 12:19 GMT
#359
Zest, stop fucking throw away your mass adepts.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 12:20 GMT
#360
Trust best?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 12:20 GMT
#361
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
100%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
July 14 2016 12:20 GMT
#362
I can't believe Zest lost this. But I would have expected him to be able to scout decently, so I guess not all too surprising.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:20:28
July 14 2016 12:20 GMT
#363
DO IT TRUST
FINISH HIM
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3609 Posts
July 14 2016 12:20 GMT
#364
...trust is best?
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:21:32
July 14 2016 12:21 GMT
#365
Trust is bust!
gg no re thx
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 12:21 GMT
#366
Was a really committed attack, Trust was so ahead in tech.

Somewhat all in :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 14 2016 12:21 GMT
#367
"The army of trust" seems like a good name for a sect
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
July 14 2016 12:21 GMT
#368
Damn, going to miss the last game
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 12:22 GMT
#369
It's happening!
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 14 2016 12:25 GMT
#370
In Zest we Trust
gg no re thx
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 12:26 GMT
#371
I can't see this working
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
July 14 2016 12:26 GMT
#372
This is some sos shit
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:28:12
July 14 2016 12:27 GMT
#373
Well adept

Not well enough
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:28:33
July 14 2016 12:28 GMT
#374
If Trust hadn't lost the prism, I think this might have actually worked lol
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:29:00
July 14 2016 12:28 GMT
#375
On July 14 2016 21:26 Olli wrote:
I can't see this working


I think that could have worked if he didn't fight in 3 overcharges and if he didn't lose the prism. So with better execution that opening might actually be something to throw into a bo3 or bo5
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 14 2016 12:29 GMT
#376
Trust is about to die. Really interesting build though.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 14 2016 12:31 GMT
#377
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
67%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
33%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 14 2016 12:31 GMT
#378
On July 14 2016 21:28 Olli wrote:
If Trust hadn't lost the prism, I think this might have actually worked lol


Yeah looked far closer to breaking Zest than I expected.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 14 2016 12:32 GMT
#379
That last attack was brutally well executed :D Zestuuuu
Revolutionist fan
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 14 2016 12:32 GMT
#380
Zest is Best! Trust is Bust!
gg no re thx
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 14 2016 12:40 GMT
#381
TY vs Zest if TY wins the group lol
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spir00
Profile Joined June 2016
35 Posts
July 14 2016 12:43 GMT
#382
On July 14 2016 21:40 Inflicted wrote:
TY vs Zest if TY wins the group lol

I don't see TY advancing past the Ro8 tbh. Beating Zest or Dark is no easy task.
TY | Stats | Dear | Ryung
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 13:10:15
July 14 2016 12:49 GMT
#383
On July 14 2016 21:43 spir00 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 21:40 Inflicted wrote:
TY vs Zest if TY wins the group lol

I don't see TY advancing past the Ro8 tbh. Beating Zest or Dark is no easy task.


I could see TY maybe beating Zest in a close series since it is a teamkill and he has historically struggled in them. Then again Zest hasn't lost a bo3+ PvT this year so I wouldn't give TY a great chance. TY probably has a better chance against Dark.
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
July 14 2016 13:24 GMT
#384
jeah it is better for TY not to finish first in his group with zest pvt and the teamkill and vs dark he has great tvz and dark struggles in zvt
TY my boy gogo
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 14 2016 13:29 GMT
#385
On July 14 2016 21:49 Lil_nooblet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 21:43 spir00 wrote:
On July 14 2016 21:40 Inflicted wrote:
TY vs Zest if TY wins the group lol

I don't see TY advancing past the Ro8 tbh. Beating Zest or Dark is no easy task.


I could see TY maybe beating Zest in a close series since it is a teamkill and he has historically struggled in them. Then again Zest hasn't lost a bo3+ PvT this year so I wouldn't give TY a great chance. TY probably has a better chance against Dark.

TY doesn't have the best TvZ and Dark has been so far schooling him in LotV.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 13:35:44
July 14 2016 13:35 GMT
#386
Yeah but I'd still agree he has a better chance vs Dark. Zests PvT is still just stupid good.

Also thats another RO8 for his streak.
warok
Profile Joined May 2013
United States11 Posts
July 14 2016 13:55 GMT
#387
anywhere to find vods for this group?
Seedfan
Profile Joined July 2016
58 Posts
July 14 2016 14:00 GMT
#388
Dark & Zest advancing - who would have thought

Valdes has grown on me - enjoying his casting a lot these days
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 14 2016 14:15 GMT
#389
On July 14 2016 22:35 Phredxor wrote:
Yeah but I'd still agree he has a better chance vs Dark. Zests PvT is still just stupid good.

Also thats another RO8 for his streak.


Yeah, kinda insane how Zest crushed + Show Spoiler +
aLive in the game where a quick Cyclone sniped his probes and his DTs got scouted, and yet he still managed to macro up and take a supply lead mid-game.
gg no re thx
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
July 14 2016 14:19 GMT
#390
On July 14 2016 22:55 warok wrote:
anywhere to find vods for this group?


+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos


Should be up the next day most of the time. Sometimes it takes a few days.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
July 14 2016 16:05 GMT
#391
Wooooo Dark :D Unfortunately I missed the group, but I'm happy he advanced :D
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
July 14 2016 16:15 GMT
#392
Well done DRAK!
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 14 2016 18:09 GMT
#393
All according to plan. Funkukuku
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