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Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
July 05 2016 23:37 GMT
#121
If a player competing for a spot uses a second account barcode to "hit" specific players - (a master barcode can take 20 points out) it manipulates the outcome of the competition. Its the way ladder works.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 05 2016 23:41 GMT
#122
On July 06 2016 08:37 Kafka777 wrote:
If a player competing for a spot uses a second account barcode to "hit" specific players - (a master barcode can take 20 points out) it manipulates the outcome of the competition. Its the way ladder works.

if your MMR is low enough to give -20, sniping is really unreliable because you're more likely to get someone in your own MMR range
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
July 05 2016 23:58 GMT
#123
Well I know It worked very well in some cases. Selective winning and losing. I cannot prove this. But I hope someone in Blizzard will look into this.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 06 2016 00:04 GMT
#124
with ~ 4 hours left the NA ladder
Neeb - 1710
Hydra - 1538
PiLiPiLi - 1536
MaSa - 1520
Semper - 1413
puCK - 1402
Polt - 1389
JonSnow - 1380
viOLet - 1370
Cham - 1362
PandaBearMe -1352
Jason - 1336
Scarlett - 1336
EJK - 1311
Pokebunny - 1297
NoRegreT - 1295


Bails - 1272
ByRada - 1258
TRUE - 1234
Voltz - 1215
Creature - 1214
SaroVati - 1206
Cuddlebear -1186

Cham is the only ineligible player in the Top 16 for being from the LA region
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 06 2016 00:04 GMT
#125
there's nothing unfair about choosing opponents intelligently and using the existing system to your advantage
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Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
July 06 2016 00:14 GMT
#126
There is always the issue of fair play - not exploiting gaps of the system. Even if ladder rules have not been breached - fair play rules have. I've seen the evidence. Its not mine so I cannot disclose it but it is there to be found, using logic doesn't hurt either.
JuggernautJason
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada6 Posts
July 06 2016 00:28 GMT
#127
Can someone confirm who all the non eligible players are for NA? So many different story's going around. I've heard cham, byrada, and true are in that list.
this is an opporutunity for some srs lulz...u need to get all teh lulz u can get in this wr0ld arbitur
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 06 2016 00:38 GMT
#128
On July 06 2016 09:28 JuggernautJason wrote:
Can someone confirm who all the non eligible players are for NA? So many different story's going around. I've heard cham, byrada, and true are in that list.

those are all right. According to other pros TRUE hasnt been around long enough and anyone who has played in copa america is ineligible. This means people like Major, Kelazhur, Cham, ByRada, etc
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 01:54:41
July 06 2016 01:53 GMT
#129
Doesn't seem like a lot of movement on the NA ladder. looks like a lot of people inside the qualification zone are just idle. only TRUE moving up and PandaBearMe and JonSnow playing a little

I mean unless we are all wrong about TRUE being ineligible I don't blame them. Last one in atm is NoRegreT and he is ~60 points ahead of the next eligible person (Voltz) with just 2 hours to go
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EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 06 2016 01:59 GMT
#130
On July 06 2016 10:53 Shellshock wrote:
Doesn't seem like a lot of movement on the NA ladder. looks like a lot of people inside the qualification zone are just idle. only TRUE moving up and PandaBearMe and JonSnow playing a little

I mean unless we are all wrong about TRUE being ineligible I don't blame them. Last one in atm is NoRegreT and he is ~60 points ahead of the next eligible person (Voltz) with just 2 hours to go

There isn't any reason to ladder atm. The next ring of people are all too low to make a difference, and the only way they have a chance is to miraculously get fed points OR if people towards the bottom go on a lose streak and the points differential can be overcome more easily.

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las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
July 06 2016 02:04 GMT
#131
On July 06 2016 10:53 Shellshock wrote:
Doesn't seem like a lot of movement on the NA ladder. looks like a lot of people inside the qualification zone are just idle. only TRUE moving up and PandaBearMe and JonSnow playing a little

I mean unless we are all wrong about TRUE being ineligible I don't blame them. Last one in atm is NoRegreT and he is ~60 points ahead of the next eligible person (Voltz) with just 2 hours to go


I think Bails and Sarovati are still going.

Going to be a tight race for 14/15/16
In Inca we trust
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
July 06 2016 02:36 GMT
#132
Anyone know what happened to HuK?
very illegal and very uncool
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 06 2016 02:37 GMT
#133
On July 06 2016 11:36 argonautdice wrote:
Anyone know what happened to HuK?

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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
July 06 2016 02:40 GMT
#134
On July 06 2016 11:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 11:36 argonautdice wrote:
Anyone know what happened to HuK?

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Damn really? Feels bad man.
very illegal and very uncool
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 06 2016 02:57 GMT
#135
On July 06 2016 11:04 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 10:53 Shellshock wrote:
Doesn't seem like a lot of movement on the NA ladder. looks like a lot of people inside the qualification zone are just idle. only TRUE moving up and PandaBearMe and JonSnow playing a little

I mean unless we are all wrong about TRUE being ineligible I don't blame them. Last one in atm is NoRegreT and he is ~60 points ahead of the next eligible person (Voltz) with just 2 hours to go


I think Bails and Sarovati are still going.

Going to be a tight race for 14/15/16

top 18 will make it, so sarovati is the one that matters (or cuddlebear/voltz)
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noego
Profile Joined July 2014
Czech Republic47 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 03:05:59
July 06 2016 03:01 GMT
#136
Anyone above Bails should be safe, seems like right now, it's between people on ranks 16-20 (EJK, Pokebunny, NoRegreT, ByRada, SaroVati, all except Pokebunny seems to be still playing). Considering both TRUE and Cham are ineligible, the cutoff is rank 18.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 06 2016 03:01 GMT
#137
byrada ineligible as well
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
noego
Profile Joined July 2014
Czech Republic47 Posts
July 06 2016 03:17 GMT
#138
On July 06 2016 12:01 Pokebunny wrote:
byrada ineligible as well

Well then Sarovati is the only player below the cutoff that could realistically get in, Cuddlebear is 50 points off with 45 minutes to go.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 06 2016 03:17 GMT
#139
On July 06 2016 12:17 noego wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 12:01 Pokebunny wrote:
byrada ineligible as well

Well then Sarovati is the only player below the cutoff that could realistically get in, Cuddlebear is 50 points off with 45 minutes to go.

EJK is playing and just lost, the cutoff got lower
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 06 2016 03:25 GMT
#140
saro lost -16
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
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