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digmouse
China6330 Posts
Final Day: Monday, May 23 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Kung_Fu_Cup/2016/1 SCBoy | Nerd Street Gamers | TakeTV | EmSc2TV | Pomihttp://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Kung_Fu_Cup/2016/1 TBD | ||
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Lil_nooblet
United States459 Posts
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
e: TY and Zest has to play in the same week with their important GSL matches? this is kinda worrisome. Also I'm glad that once again Zest and TY is at the opposite side of the bracket | ||
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Silvana
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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highsis
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On April 20 2016 01:16 royalroadweed wrote: He has his work cut out for him but I still have faith in Snute. When he's on his A game he's capable of beating any player in the world. the problem is he doesnt seem to be on his A game right now. Hope it changes | ||
Olli
Austria24420 Posts
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zakadar
Germany409 Posts
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zakadar
Germany409 Posts
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zakadar
Germany409 Posts
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
Anyway, I'm actually super stoked to see some of these matches, and of course the finals will be pretty good. Pretty sure we're gonna be seeing KT top 3... | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On April 20 2016 08:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: Very nice ro8 indeed. I hope the foreigners can give their opponents a run for their money. Well, if there's a time for Snute to beat Zest it would be now. I mean, In a couple days he's going to have to play Dear, so it's not like he'll spend much time preparing for Snute. Though...Snute going up against the best Protoss in the world. I'm just hoping to see TY/Zest in the finals so that it might be a repeat of the GSL finals. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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Durnuu
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ossavi09
Germany441 Posts
 My Predictions: Zest 3-1 Snute , Stats 3-1 Solar, Showtime 3-2 TY, Departure 3-0 Uthermal | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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Scarlett`
Canada2389 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:21 Scarlett` wrote: get +1 air zestttttttt :o That is not cool to send him ingame messages so Zest knows what to do  | ||
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plasma4
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
 . Zest should still turn this around on the better maps. | ||
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redloser
Korea (South)1735 Posts
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Ravager + queen is really strong because they live for so long, but queens are slow and disruptors don't let you heal your stuff  | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:37 redloser wrote: how did snute take the first game? Because Zest was making pure Phoenixes and Adepts for like half of the game, he had more than 20 Phoenixes afaik. Snute was making Queens, Infestors, Roaches, Ravagers, Spores all over the map, started Hive and was adding Vipers, and just then Zest started making Immortals and added few HTs, of course it wasn't enough even though Snute had horrible engagements and fights... It just looked like Zest being cocky to be honest, like he was trying to say "I will win with just Phoenixes and Adepts, no matter what." | ||
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Scarlett`
Canada2389 Posts
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Scarlett`
Canada2389 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:44 Scarlett` wrote: protosses need to stop doing this warp prism shit when theyre bout to get hydra bane all innd  | ||
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YamiRi
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:44 Scarlett` wrote: protosses need to stop doing this warp prism shit when theyre bout to get hydra bane all innd No Douyu Cup for you today?  | ||
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rotta
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Scarlett`
Canada2389 Posts
playing olimololeague in like an hour i think they overlap | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
WP by Snute though, nicely done. | ||
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:46 Scarlett` wrote: playing olimololeague in like an hour i think they overlap Oh yeah I'm dumb. Good luck against horror~ | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
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Durnuu
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:54 [PkF] Wire wrote: Is Zest's brother playing ? Wtf is that macro Yeah I was thinking the same, is someone else playing? Pretty much everything is horrible, from strategy, to macro, to micro and decision making. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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TomInKorea
Korea (South)39 Posts
Yup, that is a thing that just happened. | ||
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Durnuu
13321 Posts
GG Snute | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
gg, wp, congrats Snute! | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:57 Musicus wrote: So I've been wondering why Zest does not get +1 air attack, but I guess he just builds so many phoenix that anything he lifts dies instantly anyway. Yeah but that doesn't explain why he plays like shit though. | ||
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:57 Durnuu wrote: I get that Zest is preparing for GSL, but wow that was bad GG Snute honestly this is by no means an excuse, Snute is really good but a player of the caliber of Zest should be able to showcase something else even without proper preparation | ||
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breaker1328
Canada296 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:57 deacon.frost wrote: Were they playing on EU? Otherwise pretty disappointing from Zest. NA Central afaik. Right in the middle. | ||
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YamiRi
152 Posts
weird... | ||
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CynicalDeath
Italy3454 Posts
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rotta
5594 Posts
Don't drop the ball Stats! | ||
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uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:57 deacon.frost wrote: Were they playing on EU? Otherwise pretty disappointing from Zest. NA. | ||
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Sakat
Croatia1599 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:59 [PkF] Wire wrote: honestly this is by no means an excuse, Snute is really good but a player of the caliber of Zest should be able to showcase something else even without proper preparation Or he can be a good boy and send an excuse in advance saying sorry guys, I am preparing hard for my GSL run, please take someone else. This is unprofessional | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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fealx
Germany376 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:00 deacon.frost wrote: Or he can be a good boy and send an excuse in advance saying sorry guys, I am preparing hard for my GSL run, please take someone else. This is unprofessional like Lilbow? we saw where that one ends | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
So ping is slightly worse for both sides, cool. Thanks! | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
No, not like Lilbow. I mean he WON'T ATTEND and send the excuse in advance so they can invite someone else instead of Zest. Everyone would accept that. This, what Zest showed, reminded me what Lilbow did at Blizzcon, the difference is, that Zest didn't stated his excuse in an interview. Edit> Damn, sorry for double post, didn't realize. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:58 Ramiz1989 wrote: Yeah but that doesn't explain why he plays like shit though. I guess he is in 100% PvP mode right now and from what I can read on Twitter, Snute prepared really well for this match. I don't think Zest prepared, he is only preparing for GSL right now. Might've been a super sick 3-2 series if Zest had focused on this, who knows, too bad. Snute must have the best track record vs Rain/Classic/herO/Zest level protosses from any foreigner by far now. So sick . | ||
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
I mean Lilbow didn't send in an excuse in advance - he couldn't, because of how blizzcon worked - he just scrambled together something that sounded like utter bullshit afterwards and got meme'd for how stupid it was considering Blizzcon is /the/ endgoal. Nobody would care if Zest was just like "hey sorry GSL semis, peace out" to a random online tournament. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:03 Musicus wrote: I guess he is in 100% PvP mode right now and from what I can read on Twitter, Snute prepared really well for this match. I don't think Zest prepared, he is only preparing for GSL right now. Might've been a super sick 3-2 series if Zest had focused on this, who knows, too bad. Snute must have the best track record vs Rain/Classic/herO/Zest level protosses from any foreigner by far now. So sick .yeah Snute is something else vs Korean P in unfavorable meta | ||
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CynicalDeath
Italy3454 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:03 Musicus wrote: Snute must have the best track record vs Rain/Classic/herO/Zest level protosses from any foreigner by far now. So sick ....that's for sure!  | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Anyway gg snute, the best way to stop the talk is to go win this thing! | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:08 Nakajin wrote: Hum, so that was strange, I would love to have snute take on this to know if it was as easy as it look. I am not saying he could not beat zest on his best day, but that seamed realy easy. Anyway gg snute, the best way to stop the talk is to go win this thing! Yeah. À vaincre sans péril on triomphe sans gloire. I'd have liked the match to feel at least a bit tense at some point, here the steamroll was just so easy you're more disappointed by Zest than happy for Snute. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:19 [PkF] Wire wrote: Stats let Solar get such a crazy economy the choice of mutas didn't really matter here Yeah Stats didn't do anything for the first half of the game. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:23 Ramiz1989 wrote: Yeah Stats didn't do anything for the first half of the game. at least the game felt kinda refreshing, no adept rush or double robo immortals vs lurkers. But Stats really played poorly, if you let the Z get his crazy eco that's what is bound to happen every time. | ||
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RichardNPL
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Liquid`Snute
Norway839 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: yeah idk what to say, i studied Zest PvZ vods and the play was just the same as there, just countered it :/ didn't expect that much yolo on Ulrena, but it's not very strong (ShoWTimE played this style way better in our KFC match on Ulrena) Zest looked quite sloppy at some point but big congratulations to you you're officially the Korean Protosses Killer ! | ||
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Scarlett`
Canada2389 Posts
On April 20 2016 20:44 Scarlett` wrote: protosses need to stop doing this warp prism shit when theyre bout to get hydra bane all innd ? | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
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Scarlett`
Canada2389 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: yeah idk what to say, i studied Zest PvZ vods and the play was just the same as there, just countered it :/ didn't expect that much yolo on Ulrena, but it's not very strong (ShoWTimE played this style way better in our KFC match on Ulrena) Congrats, sick play today . | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
"Oh my Lurker Den just finished and I forced my opponent to retreat, let me just make no Lurkers at all and attack for no reason whatsoever." | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:36 Scarlett` wrote: i should coach be a protoss coach tbh Noooo, just keep the secrets to yourself and then win a tournament offracing as Protoss. | ||
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watchlulu
Germany475 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:36 Ramiz1989 wrote: What a throw by Solar there rofl. "Oh my Lurker Den just finished and I forced my opponent to retreat, let me just make no Lurkers at all and attack for no reason whatsoever." he was in a difficult spot at that time but yeah the decision to attack with no lurkers after investing in it was questionable at best | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: yeah idk what to say, i studied Zest PvZ vods and the play was just the same as there, just countered it :/ didn't expect that much yolo on Ulrena, but it's not very strong (ShoWTimE played this style way better in our KFC match on Ulrena) Zest is a man of 1 build in PvZ, what is new | ||
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
The new manofoneway. | ||
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CrimeCat
Germany43 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:42 [PkF] Wire wrote: Btw why don't Z get some ovie with drops against heavy (5+ which was unusual in the previous meta) sentry play ? Wouldn't that make their timings much stronger ? Can't have everything meanwhile they only need immortals :D | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:41 CrimeCat wrote: What is the problem with match history? Don't want to give away replay. | ||
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Poopi
France12904 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
I once forgot to set game to private vs MMA in Olimoleague so he just 2raxed me. | ||
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Scarlett`
Canada2389 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:42 [PkF] Wire wrote: Btw why don't Z get some ovie with drops against heavy (5+ which was unusual in the previous meta) sentry play ? Wouldn't that make their timings much stronger ? that attack only done vs phoenix builds (usually only vs more than 6 phoenix which is why solar got rekt) and honestly in a lot of cases drop are bad vs sentry cuz they forcefield army away and target overlords | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:46 Scarlett` wrote: that attack only done vs phoenix builds (usually only vs more than 6 phoenix which is why solar got rekt) and honestly in a lot of cases drop are bad vs sentry cuz they forcefield army away and target overlords ok ok So you're saying Solar shouldn't have done the attack because Stats didn't overcommit to phoenix ? The push looked rather scary though, at some point it looked like he could break through | ||
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ParksonVN
Australia370 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
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Scarlett`
Canada2389 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:47 [PkF] Wire wrote: ok ok So you're saying Solar shouldn't have done the attack because Stats didn't overcommit to phoenix ? The push looked rather scary though, at some point it looked like he could break through yea i wouldnt go for it vs what stats did but like you saw in snute vs zest its almost freewin vs 2star phoenix on some maps if you dont take a lot of damage early | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On April 20 2016 21:50 Scarlett` wrote: yea i wouldnt go for it vs what stats did but like you saw in snute vs zest its almost freewin vs 2star phoenix on some maps if you dont take a lot of damage early thanks makes sense | ||
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rotta
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19279 Posts
On April 20 2016 22:02 fezvez wrote: How the hell can Snute be 3-0 vs Zest? The new WCS system has helped him surpass Koreans. Koreans are falling behind without foreign training. | ||
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jojoquirion
4 Posts
On April 20 2016 22:02 fezvez wrote: How the hell can Snute be 3-0 vs Zest? he maybe sabotaged his game to meet his team-mate Stats only in the final ? :p 0-3 incoming vs Snute later in LB ? | ||
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seemsgood
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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MoonyD
Australia191 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On April 21 2016 19:25 brickrd wrote: regardless of whether there's merit to the idea that zest was playing sloppy for any number of legitimate reasons, i really don't think we should be pushing this "wrong server! hiding builds! wrong time of day!" etc. kind of attitude. it's not about supporting foreigners, it's just about having the right attitude in general. at the end of the day there's no difference from someone on ladder saying "oh i'm drunk and i was looking away from the screen" to excuse their loss. the game is what it is, none of us were in the room with them, and snute won. if all it takes to beat a korean online is random luck it wouldn't be snute doing it over and over Very well said | ||
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Semikolon
Norway46 Posts
On April 21 2016 19:25 brickrd wrote: regardless of whether there's merit to the idea that zest was playing sloppy for any number of legitimate reasons, i really don't think we should be pushing this "wrong server! hiding builds! wrong time of day!" etc. kind of attitude. it's not about supporting foreigners, it's just about having the right attitude in general. at the end of the day there's no difference from someone on ladder saying "oh i'm drunk and i was looking away from the screen" to excuse their loss. the game is what it is, none of us were in the room with them, and snute won. if all it takes to beat a korean online is random luck it wouldn't be snute doing it over and over Hear hear! Congrats on the victory, Snute! | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
On April 21 2016 12:36 MoonyD wrote: Not to take away anything from Snute, who clearly prepared against Zest's normal build. But game 3 seemed kind of off given how Zest was floating above 1K minerals at one point. Surely that can't be normal given a player of his caliber. Has anyone been able to interview/speak to Zest yet? Watch some more Zest games, paying attention to his spending. I'm not saying he has BAD macro, but he definitely doesn't have great macro. Snute 4eva | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
Anyway PvP semifinals would hopefully be quick so don't conflicted with the KFC. Let's see if anyone else can pull off a victory against Koreans. | ||
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ossavi09
Germany441 Posts
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
Interesting strategy but TY seems to be cracking the shell | ||
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
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Elentos
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
On April 22 2016 20:33 Elentos wrote: If TY wins all he does is expose even more of his play to Zest before the GSL finals. Fabulous. You can tell he is/was playing quite conservatively vs ShowTime here. Nothing irregular. | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On April 22 2016 20:34 digmouse wrote: You can tell he is/was playing quite conservatively vs ShowTime here. Nothing irregular. Well, good for him that it's a teamkill final where normal rules don't count anyway. | ||
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Elentos
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CynicalDeath
Italy3454 Posts
On April 22 2016 20:33 Elentos wrote: If TY wins all he does is expose even more of his play to Zest before the GSL finals. Fabulous. ...they are so used at playing together that they know each other really well, I don't think KFC will add something up, especially after seeing game 1 and half of game 2... | ||
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
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Elentos
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Elentos
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
Showtime got some money at least | ||
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ossavi09
Germany441 Posts
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
This game is hilarious | ||
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Elentos
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
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Elentos
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
Ulrena is great | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
On April 22 2016 21:14 [PkF] Wire wrote: Ulrena such a good and balanced TvP map TY's fault for not veto it Last map is Korhal Carnage Knockout :D | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
On April 22 2016 21:16 Yiome wrote: TY's fault for not veto it Last map is Korhal Carnage Knockout :D kinda agree, then again having maps that are plain unplayable in a given match-up in not something we should strive for (and there are plenty of those : Ulrena TvP, Prion TvZ and arguably PvZ...) | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On April 22 2016 21:17 Phredxor wrote: Please tell me that if TY loses this he has to play Zest in losers bracket. I think so. Honestly I think TY would have 3-0'd if he didn't 1-base on Ruins of Endion. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On April 22 2016 21:18 Elentos wrote: I think so. Honestly I think TY would have 3-0'd if he didn't 1-base on Ruins of Endion. Amazing. Any idea if thats before or after GSL? If that was to happeb before it, it could well be the worst series ever. Or the best i guess. | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On April 22 2016 21:19 Phredxor wrote: Amazing. Any idea if thats before or after GSL? If that was to happeb before it, it could well be the worst series ever. Or the best i guess. Before. | ||
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Durnuu
13321 Posts
On April 22 2016 21:19 Phredxor wrote: Amazing. Any idea if thats before or after GSL? If that was to happeb before it, it could well be the worst series ever. Or the best i guess. April 28th, so before GSL | ||
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China1687 Posts
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Elentos
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On April 22 2016 21:23 [PkF] Wire wrote: strange game, gg TY Strange map. On April 22 2016 21:20 Yiome wrote: TY vetoed Prion Terraces according to the Chinese casters Makes sense. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
Cool map | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
It's certainly unorthodox. | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
That's 2000 CNY(around 300$) out of TY's pocket | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24227 Posts
I was being sarcastic. The map pool is a problem when a T begins a bo7 vs a P with more or less a 0-2 deficit if he can't 4-0. | ||
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Romejo
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
On April 22 2016 22:02 Romejo wrote: Did Snute actually 3-0 Zest or was it a default win? How did the games go? Actual 3-0. Probably because Zest is preparing for GSL, He played badly in game 2 and 3. | ||
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
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Poopi
France12904 Posts
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ossavi09
Germany441 Posts
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
This must feel quite bad | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
On April 22 2016 22:24 Yiome wrote: Departure was trying to set up his VPN to fix his lag for 10 minutes and came back only facing a reaper rush. This must feel quite bad Weren't they playing on KR? Why does he have lag? | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On April 22 2016 23:02 argonautdice wrote: Weren't they playing on KR? Why does he have lag? KR vs EU is played on NA. | ||
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
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DinosaurPoop
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On April 23 2016 05:45 DinosaurPoop wrote: yeah, I didn't watch TY vs ShoWTimE or DeParture vs uThermal but Zest whiffing forcefields he should have nailed on Invader was pretty evident to me that he's having huge latency issues TY's map losses didn't have to do with latency, I can assure you that (more like he went for cheese and ShoWTimE got BO wins). His micro was actually very good for cross-server play. ShoWTimE's too. | ||
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zakadar
Germany409 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On April 23 2016 01:44 digmouse wrote: And KR to NA connection seems to be shitting the bed recently, lots of Koreans say they have higher than usual latency playing on NA. The earthquake I guess? I think I remember Scarlett saying it was worse even before the earthquake. She mentioned something about it being worse than the last time she was in Korea | ||
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Mexico1605 Posts
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plasma4
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Yiome
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On April 27 2016 21:53 Yiome wrote: Uthermal's TvZ is brutal He is a funny guy whining about Zerg and then abusing only tier 1 units to win the games ^^ | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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Poopi
France12904 Posts
On April 27 2016 21:55 Nerchio wrote: He is a funny guy whining about Zerg and then abusing only tier 1 units to win the games ^^ What does the tier change | ||
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On May 04 2016 20:18 usopsama wrote: Protoss is too broken. Stats 1-0. Solution: Proxies | ||
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Poor guy. | ||
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Also Zest please, if you want to win vs Dark you need to actually perform against Zerg first | ||
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On May 04 2016 21:50 NinjaToss wrote: Is it like bad or was it like really really bad? Also Zest please, if you want to win vs Dark you need to actually perform against Zerg first Average for normal standards, quite bad for his standards. Like Elentos said he was not very active. | ||
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On May 04 2016 21:50 NinjaToss wrote: Is it like bad or was it like really really bad? Also Zest please, if you want to win vs Dark you need to actually perform against Zerg first ...let's say it was quite bad, he seemed not to care so much to perform at his best... DeParture however played pretty well... | ||
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I don't understand them at all :O | ||
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On May 11 2016 21:47 Elentos wrote: What was the 3rd map for Snute vs Solar? Liquipedia says it was Solar and I'm pretty sure they didn't play on him. ...ops, my bad, it was Ulrena! | ||
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It's all good, thanks man. | ||
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On May 12 2016 20:13 SChlafmann wrote: Damn, why am I at work? I hope there is someone in the area to comment the game here, so I can somehow follow a bit what's going on! Game 1 on Frozen Temple: Stats goes for proxy oracle, uThermal gets a widow mine and forgets to burrow it, oracle does a ton of damage and uThermal taps out. Game 2 on KCK: Stats opens oracle again, uThermal does a mine drop that does a bit of damage. A 3 medivac drop kills Stats's 3rd base and uThermal decides to end it with a 2-base push. Stats kills uThermals entire economy with drops and eventually defends the push at home. Game 3 on Dusk Towers: Stats goes standard blink/robo and takes a greedy 3rd, uThermal opens 2-rax 3 CC, TAKETV lags out, uThermal starts lib range at 7:40, Stats crushes him with a push at 2-2 upgrades | ||
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On May 12 2016 20:42 Phredxor wrote: No mass carriers this time Yet! | ||
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On May 12 2016 20:20 Elentos wrote: Thanks a lot! | ||
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Game 2 - Dusk Towers: TY with the same opening (except with cloak), Solar with a quicker 3rd base, banshees & hellbats kill lotsa drones, TY going mech again, Solar going roach/hydra, banshees kill the 4th again, 5th dies as well, I don't think TY even got lib range, Solar attacks in and dies because of FREEDOM Game 3 - Invader: TY goes bio, Solar goes corruptor + ling/bane with an upgrade lead, TY goes for lots of harass but it didn't do that much direct damage, TY parading into Solar's 4th (unsuccessfully), takes a comfortable 4th for himself, Solar attacks in as TY is securing his 4th and before 3/3 finishes for TY, TY cleans up the push while taking out Solar's 4th base mineral line with a drop, Solar taps out. | ||
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On May 12 2016 21:12 Durnuu wrote: TY enjoying Liberators before the nerf :p I think this build will still work tbh. If they make corruptors you add some vikings and you'll still kill them fine. You always have the upgrade lead, too. | ||
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making hydralisk in zvt is even more silly than making mutas, a lot went wrong just by doing that i guess. i don't think this type of play from terran is particularily strong. queen/roach/ravager/infestors carry really well until liberator range is done and then viper/broodlord/corruptor/queen/infestor has a lot of power. | ||
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On May 12 2016 21:30 Liquid`Snute wrote: too bad my zvz isn't as strong as solar's... z_z making hydralisk in zvt is even more silly than making mutas, a lot went wrong just by doing that i guess. i don't think this type of play from terran is particularily strong. queen/roach/ravager/infestors carry really well until liberator range is done and then viper/broodlord/corruptor/queen/infestor has a lot of power. Half the battle though is keeping up with TY and not losing obscene amounts of shit for free | ||
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Should have won a match in the winner bracket. | ||
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Loving all the individual league success so far this year. | ||
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On May 18 2016 02:57 Elentos wrote: So, what's the schedule for the remaining 2 matches? The loser's final will be hold on 25 May, and the final on 27 May. | ||
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On May 18 2016 13:43 hssdgc wrote: The loser's final will be hold on 25 May, and the final on 27 May. Source? | ||
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On May 21 2016 03:00 Elentos wrote: So both matches will be played on Monday? Interesting. Why not a day off between the 3rd place match and grand finals? It simply has been dragged out way too long for anyone's liking. | ||
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On May 23 2016 20:33 Inflicted wrote: TY got +3 attack during/before that attempted break? Yeah just before. While he was cleaning up the attack at his third. | ||
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On May 23 2016 20:33 Inflicted wrote: TY got +3 attack during/before that attempted break? Just about. | ||
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On May 23 2016 20:43 Phredxor wrote: How is cheesing bringing the memes? :s I have no idea. I dunno why they think it's funny either. | ||
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Cheese me twice, I rekt you. | ||
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TY vs Stats gonna be good. | ||
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On May 23 2016 21:17 digmouse wrote: Back to back Kung Fu Cup finals for Stats too. Hilarious considering it used to be that he was doing much worse in practice/online than in offline matches. | ||
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In team houses especially, it could be anyone playing. | ||
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On May 23 2016 21:35 Daswollvieh wrote: May be a strange question, but how do online tournaments verify the players´ IDs? In team houses especially, it could be anyone playing. they make the assumption that players (particulary the staff) are responsible and pro | ||
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"He got rekt 4-3" A close 4-3 series is not included in my definition of "rekt". | ||
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I mean really by this point he should have been completely dead a while ago. | ||
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edit: ofc, no... | ||
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On May 23 2016 22:18 Elentos wrote: TY should have died like 3 times this game already, it's pretty impressive Stats hasn't completely crushed him yet. But now it's finally over. You're the only KT fan cheering your homies on in the LR. KT fans no passion? | ||
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On May 23 2016 22:21 RKC wrote: You're the only KT fan cheering your homies on in the LR. KT fans no passion? Most of the usual suspects for cheering on KT in LR threads have bad time zones for this tournament. Or like, work to do. | ||
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On May 23 2016 22:21 RKC wrote: You're the only KT fan cheering your homies on in the LR. KT fans no passion? ...he's got enough KT passion to represent them all! | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Probably agreed to split the cash thats why | ||
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Hard to watch AND post when I'm on my phone | ||
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On May 23 2016 22:29 lastride wrote: Are they playing with this lag like its nothing? This is unbearable. + Show Spoiler + Probably agreed to split the cash thats why Sometimes the lag is only visible to observers due to the way observing data sync works. | ||
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On May 23 2016 22:27 CynicalDeath wrote: ...he's got enough KT passion to represent them all! All KT finals, and you're here! SKT passion best passion! | ||
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On May 23 2016 22:31 RKC wrote: All KT finals, and you're here! SKT passion best passion! ...my sc passion has no limits, I even bear to watch the "bad" KT playing! | ||
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On May 23 2016 22:33 royalroadweed wrote: Those 3 Gabriel marines killed a nexus. Blessed with the holy power of Captain America. | ||
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On May 23 2016 22:42 Elentos wrote: This is a great series way too few people are watching. ...true! | ||
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On May 23 2016 22:42 Elentos wrote: This is a great series way too few people are watching. Passion is hard to sustain on a day where we celebrate Queen Victoria. | ||
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Keep the passion alive, passion peeps! | ||
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Will Stats be the new Rain? | ||
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On May 23 2016 23:04 RKC wrote: I miss Rain Will Stats be the new Rain? Zest is a lot more like Rain. | ||
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True, both have solid defensive play. But I think Zest edges slightly in decision-making (timings and engagement), whilst Rain edges slightly in macro and consistency. So Zest will take calculated risks and snowball his way to victory, whilst Rain plays safer and grinds to victory more slowly. Slight differences, though. Stats plays much safer than Zest, hence more similar to Rain, I feel. | ||
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But I still have no clue why KeSPA told Blizzard that Terran is the strongest race and this series didn't help me understand it either. | ||
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I wonder if there is anywhere in the world I can move to, where you can watch local, NA and Chinese streams without delay??? | ||
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On May 23 2016 23:19 Elentos wrote: I love Stats but I really wanted him to lose. Like, really, really wanted him to lose. TY was way more impressive for me today. But I still have no clue why KeSPA told Blizzard that Terran is the strongest race and this series didn't help me understand it either. TY's play is more flashy, hence easier to love. Stats' play is more subtle, hence easier to underrate. But I do feel for TY. He deserves a massive win. I think he lacks the mental fortitude. For instance, the stim-less timing in G6 was an unnecessary risky and desperate gamble. | ||
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On May 23 2016 23:19 Elentos wrote: I love Stats but I really wanted him to lose. Like, really, really wanted him to lose. TY was way more impressive for me today. But I still have no clue why KeSPA told Blizzard that Terran is the strongest race and this series didn't help me understand it either. Jeon Byeong-heon must love PvP. | ||
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...if I have to point out one good and one bad thing about this, I'd say the weird prize pool system for the good and the excessive dispersion of the matches (2 months for 4 groups and a 8-players DE bracket are way too much) for the bad... hope to see a Season 2 very soon!  | ||
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"Life is replaced by Stats due to match-fixing related charges and arrest." Meaning Stats wouldn't even have played normally. Nice substitute player. | ||
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On May 23 2016 23:04 RKC wrote: I miss Rain Will Stats be the new Rain? nah, Stats will never be Rain, and neither will Zest | ||
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On May 23 2016 22:42 Elentos wrote: This is a great series way too few people are watching. I missed it Fucking work, babysitting 15 years old students that couldn't care less about what I'm trying to teach them while great Starcraft is being played. Sad for TY. | ||
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On May 23 2016 23:19 royalroadweed wrote: Another silver for TY. I guess its an improvement from the numerous 3rd-4th places. It seems that no champion for TY lasting so long............ | ||
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