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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
December 19 2015 18:13 GMT
#701
On December 20 2015 03:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

they still feel like they have a lot of hp though, they had even more? damn

Now it's 80/70. They used to have 90/90 with a researchable +50 shield bonus. Yeah I dont know what Blizz was smoking either.


They look so tiny tho, why do they tank so much
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Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 18:14:17
December 19 2015 18:13 GMT
#702
I see a very bad habit to consider map at 50% winning rate, like protoss map in PvZ .... seems like ZvP is considered ok, when Z have a 60% win rate like in SC-BW where all maps had stats in favour of Z (because mu was clearly NOT balanced) ... really this fed me up. Dusk Towers PvZ stats: 74 37 37 50.0%. Protoss map my a**.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 19 2015 18:13 GMT
#703
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

I don't like how blizzard "nerfs" protoss. Lots of times its not really a nerf. At this point I'm surprised that they didn't have colossus hit air to compensate for its nerf.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
December 19 2015 18:14 GMT
#704
On December 20 2015 03:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
i dont know how everyone else feels about it, but to me adepts feel like they are too tanky. i'm not talking about numbers wise necessarily, but it feels like it just shouldn't be able to take that many hits. personal opinion though

Agree, they already have the shade ability to escape
I Protoss winner, could it be?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 19 2015 18:15 GMT
#705
On December 20 2015 03:13 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

they still feel like they have a lot of hp though, they had even more? damn

Now it's 80/70. They used to have 90/90 with a researchable +50 shield bonus. Yeah I dont know what Blizz was smoking either.


They look so tiny tho, why do they tank so much

yeah that's what does it for me, they look like they hsould have the same health as a zealot based on looks and size
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-19 18:15:59
December 19 2015 18:15 GMT
#706
On December 20 2015 03:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
i dont know how everyone else feels about it, but to me adepts feel like they are too tanky. i'm not talking about numbers wise necessarily, but it feels like it just shouldn't be able to take that many hits. personal opinion though

Yeah it makes no sense that a ranged Adept should have as much overall health as a melee Zealot
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 19 2015 18:16 GMT
#707
On December 20 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:13 Durnuu wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

they still feel like they have a lot of hp though, they had even more? damn

Now it's 80/70. They used to have 90/90 with a researchable +50 shield bonus. Yeah I dont know what Blizz was smoking either.


They look so tiny tho, why do they tank so much

yeah that's what does it for me, they look like they hsould have the same health as a zealot based on looks and size

They have the same health 100/50 vs 80/70
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OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
December 19 2015 18:16 GMT
#708
On December 20 2015 03:15 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
i dont know how everyone else feels about it, but to me adepts feel like they are too tanky. i'm not talking about numbers wise necessarily, but it feels like it just shouldn't be able to take that many hits. personal opinion though

Yeah it makes no sense that a ranged Adept should have as much overall health as a melee Zealot

Thus buff zealots!
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 19 2015 18:16 GMT
#709
What the fuck is this proxy position lol
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
December 19 2015 18:16 GMT
#710
On December 20 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:13 Durnuu wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

they still feel like they have a lot of hp though, they had even more? damn

Now it's 80/70. They used to have 90/90 with a researchable +50 shield bonus. Yeah I dont know what Blizz was smoking either.


They look so tiny tho, why do they tank so much

yeah that's what does it for me, they look like they hsould have the same health as a zealot based on looks and size


But they do, don't they? I mean the only difference is they have more shields and less HP so they lose a tiny bit on armor i guess -_-
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 19 2015 18:16 GMT
#711
On December 20 2015 03:16 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:13 Durnuu wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

they still feel like they have a lot of hp though, they had even more? damn

Now it's 80/70. They used to have 90/90 with a researchable +50 shield bonus. Yeah I dont know what Blizz was smoking either.


They look so tiny tho, why do they tank so much

yeah that's what does it for me, they look like they hsould have the same health as a zealot based on looks and size

They have the same health 100/50 vs 80/70

then why do they feel way more tanky fuck
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 19 2015 18:16 GMT
#712
On December 20 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:13 Durnuu wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

they still feel like they have a lot of hp though, they had even more? damn

Now it's 80/70. They used to have 90/90 with a researchable +50 shield bonus. Yeah I dont know what Blizz was smoking either.


They look so tiny tho, why do they tank so much

yeah that's what does it for me, they look like they hsould have the same health as a zealot based on looks and size

They do have around the same health as a zealot.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
December 19 2015 18:17 GMT
#713
On December 20 2015 03:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:16 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:13 Durnuu wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

they still feel like they have a lot of hp though, they had even more? damn

Now it's 80/70. They used to have 90/90 with a researchable +50 shield bonus. Yeah I dont know what Blizz was smoking either.


They look so tiny tho, why do they tank so much

yeah that's what does it for me, they look like they hsould have the same health as a zealot based on looks and size

They have the same health 100/50 vs 80/70

then why do they feel way more tanky fuck

because first they tank then they escape
I Protoss winner, could it be?
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
December 19 2015 18:17 GMT
#714
On December 20 2015 03:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
What the fuck is this proxy position lol

Next time zerg should try to proxy a spire in enemy's main base. Imagine the mindgames!
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 19 2015 18:18 GMT
#715
Go Daychaud !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 19 2015 18:18 GMT
#716
On December 20 2015 03:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:16 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:13 Durnuu wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

they still feel like they have a lot of hp though, they had even more? damn

Now it's 80/70. They used to have 90/90 with a researchable +50 shield bonus. Yeah I dont know what Blizz was smoking either.


They look so tiny tho, why do they tank so much

yeah that's what does it for me, they look like they hsould have the same health as a zealot based on looks and size

They have the same health 100/50 vs 80/70

then why do they feel way more tanky fuck

They kills things that can micro around zealots so they usually absorb less damage. They can also escape.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
December 19 2015 18:18 GMT
#717
On December 20 2015 03:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:16 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:13 Durnuu wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

they still feel like they have a lot of hp though, they had even more? damn

Now it's 80/70. They used to have 90/90 with a researchable +50 shield bonus. Yeah I dont know what Blizz was smoking either.


They look so tiny tho, why do they tank so much

yeah that's what does it for me, they look like they hsould have the same health as a zealot based on looks and size

They have the same health 100/50 vs 80/70

then why do they feel way more tanky fuck


They move faster and have shades to survive longer i guess
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
December 19 2015 18:18 GMT
#718
On December 20 2015 03:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:16 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:13 Durnuu wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:11 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 20 2015 03:08 Shellshock wrote:
I didnt pay a lot of attention during the beta but adepts already got nerfed once right? I think they used to be even stronger?

Yes a big HP nerf. But they got that attack speed upgrade to compensate

they still feel like they have a lot of hp though, they had even more? damn

Now it's 80/70. They used to have 90/90 with a researchable +50 shield bonus. Yeah I dont know what Blizz was smoking either.


They look so tiny tho, why do they tank so much

yeah that's what does it for me, they look like they hsould have the same health as a zealot based on looks and size

They have the same health 100/50 vs 80/70

then why do they feel way more tanky fuck

Because they have the one of the best escape abilities in the game and kill everything that is trying to kill them first
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#719
I'm surprised he didnt start building a new spire once he saw the rocks were broken
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
December 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#720
On December 20 2015 03:17 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 03:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
What the fuck is this proxy position lol

Next time zerg should try to proxy a spire in enemy's main base. Imagine the mindgames!

I once proxied a roach warren in my opponent's main on Habitation Station
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