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Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
December 10 2015 22:10 GMT
#581
And I expected a close match lmao
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
December 10 2015 22:11 GMT
#582
On December 11 2015 07:10 Strela wrote:
And I expected a close match lmao

reverse all kill incoming
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
December 10 2015 22:11 GMT
#583
On December 11 2015 07:09 Bojas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 07:07 TheDougler wrote:
On December 11 2015 07:01 Bojas wrote:
On December 11 2015 07:00 SlammerIV wrote:
As much Ultralisk late game is very strong uThermal could have played more pressure oriented. He dropped a lot but he never committed to a frontal assault, even after sniping the 4th and 5th base he never really attacked.

Frontal assault would've never worked. Dropping was the right way to go, he just lost a few too many medivacs.


Agreed, but dealing with the medivacs was good play by scarlett (other than the one he flew over infested terran lol), didn't seem to have much to do with balance. Like, don't get me wrong, ultras might be a bit bonkers with 8 armor. But I didn't think that was the absolute deciding factor in that game as much as losing like 6 full medivacs was.

I'm not balance whining, I just don't like the way TvZ is forced to be played currently. I said he lost too many medivacs because that was indeed ultimately where uThermal lost the game.


For sure. I wasn't meaning to disagree with you there. More disagreeing with uthermal's tweet. Sorry about the confusion, I should have clarified.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
December 10 2015 22:12 GMT
#584
uthermal is completely right. I had a game where I was on 5 bases vs a 2 base zerg, then the ultras popped and I lost. this is so ridicolous.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 22:13:15
December 10 2015 22:12 GMT
#585
Canada Fuck Yeah!!

gogogo Scarlett!

I Uthermal gets sent out on tilt for ace match it will be awesome!

edit : yes indeed, fuck 8 armor ultras. This shit is the bane of my existence since 75% of my games are tvz...
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 10 2015 22:12 GMT
#586
Scarlett's face right now

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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
December 10 2015 22:12 GMT
#587
On December 11 2015 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
uthermal is completely right. I had a game where I was on 5 bases vs a 2 base zerg, then the ultras popped and I lost. this is so ridicolous.

I have a tip for you guys, don't make only tier1 units ):
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
December 10 2015 22:12 GMT
#588
On December 11 2015 07:11 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 07:10 Strela wrote:
And I expected a close match lmao

reverse all kill incoming

I hope you are right . Scarlett playing really well though
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6248 Posts
December 10 2015 22:12 GMT
#589
Pretty disappointing games =/
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 10 2015 22:13 GMT
#590
On December 11 2015 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
uthermal is completely right. I had a game where I was on 5 bases vs a 2 base zerg, then the ultras popped and I lost. this is so ridicolous.

welll, if you have 5 bases vs 2 bases as Terran against zerg with any reasonable army and his ultras just popped you should win by basetrade 99% of the time.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
December 10 2015 22:13 GMT
#591
On December 11 2015 07:12 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
uthermal is completely right. I had a game where I was on 5 bases vs a 2 base zerg, then the ultras popped and I lost. this is so ridicolous.

I have a tip for you guys, don't make only tier1 units ):

Disclaimer not meant as a balance argument, just that this wasn't the situation in the game between Scarlett and uThermal:


He was rocking a lot of liberators and a lot of ghosts and a lot of tanks.
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
December 10 2015 22:14 GMT
#592
On December 11 2015 07:03 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 07:00 SlammerIV wrote:
As much Ultralisk late game is very strong uThermal could have played more pressure oriented. He dropped a lot but he never committed to a frontal assault, even after sniping the 4th and 5th base he never really attacked.

You never commit to a frontal assault vs infestors and ultras on creep. uThermal's biggest mistake was not being ByuN.


I mean before Ultras are out, the game is not that different from HotS, terren can hit before infester ultra comes out. I feel that uThermal spent too much money on tanks, libs and drops, when he could have hit a strong 2-2 timing.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 10 2015 22:14 GMT
#593
On December 11 2015 07:12 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
uthermal is completely right. I had a game where I was on 5 bases vs a 2 base zerg, then the ultras popped and I lost. this is so ridicolous.

I have a tip for you guys, don't make only tier1 units ):

I'm pretty sure he had tanks, liberators and ghosts.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
December 10 2015 22:15 GMT
#594
On December 11 2015 07:12 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
uthermal is completely right. I had a game where I was on 5 bases vs a 2 base zerg, then the ultras popped and I lost. this is so ridicolous.

I have a tip for you guys, don't make only tier1 units ):

liberators only work when you can force a fight under them which is rarely possible vs a good zerg.
Ghosts are extremely hard to control in addition to you bio.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 22:18:02
December 10 2015 22:16 GMT
#595
On December 11 2015 07:14 SlammerIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 07:03 royalroadweed wrote:
On December 11 2015 07:00 SlammerIV wrote:
As much Ultralisk late game is very strong uThermal could have played more pressure oriented. He dropped a lot but he never committed to a frontal assault, even after sniping the 4th and 5th base he never really attacked.

You never commit to a frontal assault vs infestors and ultras on creep. uThermal's biggest mistake was not being ByuN.


I mean before Ultras are out, the game is not that different from HotS, terren can hit before infester ultra comes out. I feel that uThermal spent too much money on tanks, libs and drops, when he could have hit a strong 2-2 timing.

He won't ever kill the Zerg doing that, at best he would trade, and that would just mean that he ends up in a hive tech situation for sure. The reason why dropping is a good idea is because he can greatly hinder Scarlett's economy so she can't get to the hive tech army, without risking the game as much. Medivacs aren't commited most of the time and can get out unscathed, while the Zerg is forced to run around the map, besides, it is almost impossible not to take damage as the Zerg player.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
December 10 2015 22:17 GMT
#596
On December 11 2015 07:13 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
uthermal is completely right. I had a game where I was on 5 bases vs a 2 base zerg, then the ultras popped and I lost. this is so ridicolous.

welll, if you have 5 bases vs 2 bases as Terran against zerg with any reasonable army and his ultras just popped you should win by basetrade 99% of the time.

Well I had liberators so I thought I could win the fight but I slightly misplaced the circles and so the ultras could circumvent them and kill my bio.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 10 2015 22:17 GMT
#597
I think uThermal had a better chance of reverse all kill than harstem
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Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
December 10 2015 22:18 GMT
#598
On December 11 2015 07:12 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 07:12 Charoisaur wrote:
uthermal is completely right. I had a game where I was on 5 bases vs a 2 base zerg, then the ultras popped and I lost. this is so ridicolous.

I have a tip for you guys, don't make only tier1 units ):

First time I hear Tanks, Ghost and liberators are all tier 1 units... What should he have build? Battlecruisers?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
December 10 2015 22:18 GMT
#599
On December 11 2015 07:17 Shellshock wrote:
I think uThermal had a better chance of reverse all kill than harstem

you are just a hater, after all it's the year of harstem

(i really want to see huk play another game tbh)
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
December 10 2015 22:19 GMT
#600
If they gave back 2010-2011 snipe would that be an improvement do you think? I feel like the reason it was nerfed is because it countered mass broodlord and mass ultra so well. But as we learned in 2012 with broodlords, and now with ultras, being able to mass those things isn't necessarily good for the game.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
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