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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#241
Watch Hitman go out first in the group, I would giggle like a school girl.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 17:11:58
August 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#242
On August 28 2015 02:10 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I have to say I love those builds where you mine just enough gas to get what you need and then just flood zealots. I admit I did it sometimes on NA with charge floods

But I don't understand how Elazer lacked the roaches to counter the second wave. Makes no sense. Did he drone again ?

In my experience, this sometimes happen even with constant unit production. you do not hold this without some kind of sim city blocking the zealots, or sniping the warp prism (at least not consistently). also you cant make units too quickly even though that'd be the normal reaction to seeing the warp prism

drone up to ~40, push back the first attack, roach roach roach. Don't see any flaws in that plan.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#243
On August 28 2015 02:10 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I have to say I love those builds where you mine just enough gas to get what you need and then just flood zealots. I admit I did it sometimes on NA with charge floods

But I don't understand how Elazer lacked the roaches to counter the second wave. Makes no sense. Did he drone again ?

In my experience, this sometimes happen even with constant unit production. you do not hold this without some kind of sim city blocking the zealots, or sniping the warp prism (at least not consistently). also you cant make units too quickly even though that'd be the normal reaction to seeing the warp prism

I once almost lost a game where toss got natural cancelled by 13pool to this all-in. Mass roaches don't beat zealots if you don't kill the prism :[
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
August 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#244
I got to admit, these games are fun to watch. Eagerly anticipating the next bullshit build out of Hitman. It's like the complete opposite of facing these builds on ladder.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#245
probably 1gas 7gate now, keeping it different
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#246
On August 28 2015 02:11 ThomasjServo wrote:
Watch Hitman go out first in the group, I would giggle like a school girl.

Remember that has was in the winner match and got knocked out.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#247
On August 28 2015 02:11 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:10 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I have to say I love those builds where you mine just enough gas to get what you need and then just flood zealots. I admit I did it sometimes on NA with charge floods

But I don't understand how Elazer lacked the roaches to counter the second wave. Makes no sense. Did he drone again ?

In my experience, this sometimes happen even with constant unit production. you do not hold this without some kind of sim city blocking the zealots, or sniping the warp prism (at least not consistently). also you cant make units too quickly even though that'd be the normal reaction to seeing the warp prism

I once almost lost a game where toss got natural cancelled by 13pool to this all-in. Mass roaches don't beat zealots if you don't kill the prism :[

I think without the time warps he should have won this handily. Anyway, I wonder what Hitman has in store for the next game . I hope a chargelots flood ^^
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 27 2015 17:13 GMT
#248
On August 28 2015 02:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:10 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I have to say I love those builds where you mine just enough gas to get what you need and then just flood zealots. I admit I did it sometimes on NA with charge floods

But I don't understand how Elazer lacked the roaches to counter the second wave. Makes no sense. Did he drone again ?

In my experience, this sometimes happen even with constant unit production. you do not hold this without some kind of sim city blocking the zealots, or sniping the warp prism (at least not consistently). also you cant make units too quickly even though that'd be the normal reaction to seeing the warp prism

drone up to ~40, push back the first attack, roach roach roach. Don't see any flaws in that plan.

Yeah mb, 40 drones is def enough i guess. But I dont really see 4-5 more roaches helping too much in that situation, its not like hitman even executed it even close to perfect
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 27 2015 17:13 GMT
#249
On August 28 2015 02:13 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:10 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I have to say I love those builds where you mine just enough gas to get what you need and then just flood zealots. I admit I did it sometimes on NA with charge floods

But I don't understand how Elazer lacked the roaches to counter the second wave. Makes no sense. Did he drone again ?

In my experience, this sometimes happen even with constant unit production. you do not hold this without some kind of sim city blocking the zealots, or sniping the warp prism (at least not consistently). also you cant make units too quickly even though that'd be the normal reaction to seeing the warp prism

drone up to ~40, push back the first attack, roach roach roach. Don't see any flaws in that plan.

Yeah mb, 40 drones is def enough i guess. But I dont really see 4-5 more roaches helping too much in that situation, its not like hitman even executed it even close to perfect

can't you hold it with a spore crawler phasing out the prism?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 27 2015 17:13 GMT
#250
On August 28 2015 02:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:11 ThomasjServo wrote:
Watch Hitman go out first in the group, I would giggle like a school girl.

Remember that has was in the winner match and got knocked out.

it was a good day. I got 2/2 on liquibet
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 27 2015 17:14 GMT
#251
On August 28 2015 02:13 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:13 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:10 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I have to say I love those builds where you mine just enough gas to get what you need and then just flood zealots. I admit I did it sometimes on NA with charge floods

But I don't understand how Elazer lacked the roaches to counter the second wave. Makes no sense. Did he drone again ?

In my experience, this sometimes happen even with constant unit production. you do not hold this without some kind of sim city blocking the zealots, or sniping the warp prism (at least not consistently). also you cant make units too quickly even though that'd be the normal reaction to seeing the warp prism

drone up to ~40, push back the first attack, roach roach roach. Don't see any flaws in that plan.

Yeah mb, 40 drones is def enough i guess. But I dont really see 4-5 more roaches helping too much in that situation, its not like hitman even executed it even close to perfect

can't you hold it with a spore crawler phasing out the prism?

that's a kinda cool idea at least
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
August 27 2015 17:14 GMT
#252
I'm liking this hitman dood already...... such evil
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18777 Posts
August 27 2015 17:14 GMT
#253
"experts call it mindgames, I just call it the hitman build"
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 27 2015 17:15 GMT
#254
On August 28 2015 02:13 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:11 ThomasjServo wrote:
Watch Hitman go out first in the group, I would giggle like a school girl.

Remember that has was in the winner match and got knocked out.

it was a good day. I got 2/2 on liquibet

You would.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 27 2015 17:15 GMT
#255
Speaking of, I seem to have broken my curse. I'm 11-1 on predictions, only had Harstem instead of Petraeus advancing in Group A.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 27 2015 17:15 GMT
#256
On August 28 2015 02:13 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:13 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:10 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I have to say I love those builds where you mine just enough gas to get what you need and then just flood zealots. I admit I did it sometimes on NA with charge floods

But I don't understand how Elazer lacked the roaches to counter the second wave. Makes no sense. Did he drone again ?

In my experience, this sometimes happen even with constant unit production. you do not hold this without some kind of sim city blocking the zealots, or sniping the warp prism (at least not consistently). also you cant make units too quickly even though that'd be the normal reaction to seeing the warp prism

drone up to ~40, push back the first attack, roach roach roach. Don't see any flaws in that plan.

Yeah mb, 40 drones is def enough i guess. But I dont really see 4-5 more roaches helping too much in that situation, its not like hitman even executed it even close to perfect

can't you hold it with a spore crawler phasing out the prism?

I know NaNiwa used to do that build all the time during one DH. It then got quite trendy, then people figured how to counter it and it just disappeared.

I hope Hitman does the same thing so that we can see Elazer adapting.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
August 27 2015 17:15 GMT
#257
Is he just doing the exact same thing?
Wat
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 27 2015 17:16 GMT
#258
*sigh*
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 27 2015 17:16 GMT
#259
On August 28 2015 02:15 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 02:13 Ej_ wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:13 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:10 Aocowns wrote:
On August 28 2015 02:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I have to say I love those builds where you mine just enough gas to get what you need and then just flood zealots. I admit I did it sometimes on NA with charge floods

But I don't understand how Elazer lacked the roaches to counter the second wave. Makes no sense. Did he drone again ?

In my experience, this sometimes happen even with constant unit production. you do not hold this without some kind of sim city blocking the zealots, or sniping the warp prism (at least not consistently). also you cant make units too quickly even though that'd be the normal reaction to seeing the warp prism

drone up to ~40, push back the first attack, roach roach roach. Don't see any flaws in that plan.

Yeah mb, 40 drones is def enough i guess. But I dont really see 4-5 more roaches helping too much in that situation, its not like hitman even executed it even close to perfect

can't you hold it with a spore crawler phasing out the prism?

I know NaNiwa used to do that build all the time during one DH. It then got quite trendy, then people figured how to counter it and it just disappeared.

I hope Hitman does the same thing so that we can see Elazer adapting.

he cut drones earlier and started queen production
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 27 2015 17:16 GMT
#260
On August 28 2015 02:15 Tenks wrote:
Is he just doing the exact same thing?

of course he is
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
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