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On July 23 2015 19:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 19:36 Noonius wrote:On July 23 2015 19:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Maru saw no nexus. Why move out? overly confident? That's not confidence, it simply isn't smart. I mean, what followups could Zest realistically try with no nexus and no other tech in his base? Continued oracle production -> 3gate all in, blink all in, Dark Shrine proxy, Tempests. Moving out is not a smart choice against any of these.
proxy collossus!
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On July 23 2015 19:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote:
Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this? If two races are about macro and lategame and one is all about early game deception? Recently Tasteless mentioned that Terran is about macro and mechanics while Protoss is about deception and mind games. I don't think I want people competing if such vastly different skills are required from them... No I don't like this. But Maru made many mistakes.
To me it seemed like to his information there could be either macro play behind the oracle or this blink follow up. Did he really have the information to decide? I don't think so. If it hadn't been more aggression his moves would have been fine I think. And usually people don't follow up aggression with even more aggression. This isn't supposed to be a game of rolling dice.
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On July 23 2015 19:38 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 19:38 Caihead wrote:On July 23 2015 19:37 brickrd wrote:On July 23 2015 19:35 NexUmbra wrote:On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote:
Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this? I liked it me too, has to be something keeping terran honest from just macroing up to a laZboy scv pull I rather give the other races the same cheesy all-in options, when two players do polar opposite cheeses it produces the most spontaneous and interesting games. taeja proxy reaper vs life proxy hatch. never forget.
That was the best game of Starcraft 2 ever played. Period.
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On July 23 2015 19:38 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 19:37 brickrd wrote:On July 23 2015 19:35 NexUmbra wrote:On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote:
Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this? I liked it me too, has to be something keeping terran honest from just macroing up to a laZboy scv pull I rather give the other races the same cheesy all-in options, when two players do polar opposite cheeses it produces the most spontaneous and interesting games.
id love better z cheese but you'd have to completely change larva mechanic or add a unit
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"Standard style" Gas first != standard
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Austria24422 Posts
I love Zest's pylon positioning. It's SO SMART
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On July 23 2015 19:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I love Zest's pylon positioning. It's SO SMART
It's been standard in Korea for some weeks now.
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I agree with DLO here. Moving out was the worst possible thing Maru could do
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was this gas first widow mine runby?
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Zest is playing pretty well, you can tell he has worked hard for that PvT.
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Czech Republic12133 Posts
DT shrine against a Raven, hmm  This should be interesting.
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Austria24422 Posts
On July 23 2015 19:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 19:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I love Zest's pylon positioning. It's SO SMART It's been standard in Korea for some weeks now.
Yeah, Zest made it standard. Saw it first vs Maru in an ace match about a month ago
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No warp prism for Zest ? EDIT : Nvm, here it is.
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On July 23 2015 19:39 ilovegroov wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 19:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote:
Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this? If two races are about macro and lategame and one is all about early game deception? Recently Tasteless mentioned that Terran is about macro and mechanics while Protoss is about deception and mind games. I don't think I want people competing if such vastly different skills are required from them... No I don't like this. But Maru made many mistakes. To me it seemed like to his information there could be either macro play behind the oracle or this blink follow up. Did he really have the information to decide? I don't think so. If it hadn't been more aggression his moves would have been fine I think. And usually people don't follow up aggression with even more aggression. This isn't supposed to be a game of rolling dice.
there's nothing you can do to convince me you aren't just a terran ladder player with bad scouting lol
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Well that was pretty bad 
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Lol that Raven sealed the attack, sick
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Austria24422 Posts
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
colossus non-micro cost him the game
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EPT
