Stats vs ByuL Game 1 Stats vs ByuL Game 2 Stats vs ByuL Game 3 Maru vs Zest Game 1 Maru vs Zest Game 2 Maru vs Zest Game 3 Winners Match Game 1 Winners Match Game 2 Winners Match Game 3 Losers Match Game 1 Losers Match Game 2 Losers Match Game 3 Final Match Game 1 Final Match Game 2 Final Match Game 3
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
29%
★★★- Good game (3)
43%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stats vs ByuL Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Stats vs ByuL Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
9%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
73%
★★★- Good game (2)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stats vs ByuL Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Stats vs ByuL Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
38%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
25%
★★★- Good game (2)
25%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stats vs ByuL Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
7%
★★★- Good game (6)
40%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
27%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
13%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Zest Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Maru vs Zest Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
13%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
50%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
25%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
13%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Zest Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Maru vs Zest Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
5%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
10%
★★★- Good game (3)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (13)
62%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
10%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Zest Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
11%
★★★- Good game (3)
16%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (10)
53%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
5%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (8)
73%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
9%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
18%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★- Good game (5)
83%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
25%
★★★- Good game (3)
38%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
25%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (8)
57%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
14%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
21%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
60%
★★★- Good game (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (13)
65%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
15%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
★★★- Good game (3)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (11)
65%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
12%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★- Good game (1)
5%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (14)
67%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
10%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Maru, ByuL, Stats, and Zestin in StarLeague Season 3 round of 16. Maru is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 59.44% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. Stats is at 29.25% Blizzcon Chances, with a 45.6% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 49.84%, or 11.99% if they lose. ByuL is at 89.79% Blizzcon Chances, with a 47.28% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 98.31%, or 82.15% if they lose. Zest is at 96.47% Blizzcon Chances, with a 47.68% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 99.67%, or 93.55% if they lose.
Additional scenarii : if Stats > ByuL and Zest > Maru : Zest and ByuL to qualify if Stats < ByuL and Zest < Maru : ByuL and Maru to qualify if Stats < ByuL and Zest > Maru see above if Stats > ByuL and Zest < Maru : Maru and Zest to qualify
Maru, ByuL, Stats, and Zestin in StarLeague Season 3 round of 16. This is the 2nd place Group of Death! Maru is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 59.45% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. Stats is at 29.16% Blizzcon Chances, with a 45.61% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 49.71%, or 11.94% if they lose. ByuL is at 89.68% Blizzcon Chances, with a 47.29% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 98.26%, or 81.98% if they lose. Zest is at 96.41% Blizzcon Chances, with a 47.66% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 99.66%, or 93.45% if they lose.
INnoVation has a 10.88% chance to win ----going from 83.23% to 100% if they get 1st, or 81.18% if they don't. Maru has a 9.95% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Classic has a 9.15% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Rain has a 8.69% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Life has a 7.46% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] +
Dream has a 6.73% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Zest has a 6.7% chance to win ----going from 96.41% to 100% if they get 1st, or 96.15% if they don't. HyuN has a 5.67% chance to win ----going from 29.33% to 99.96% if they get 1st, or 25.09% if they don't. sOs has a 5.52% chance to win ----going from 45.77% to 100% if they get 1st, or 42.6% if they don't. herO has a 4.95% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Dear has a 4.93% chance to win ----going from 18.07% to 99.07% if they get 1st, or 13.87% if they don't. ByuL has a 4.63% chance to win ----going from 89.68% to 100% if they get 1st, or 89.18% if they don't. Stats has a 4.48% chance to win ----going from 29.16% to 99.99% if they get 1st, or 25.84% if they don't. Rogue has a 4.33% chance to win ----going from 63.91% to 100% if they get 1st, or 62.28% if they don't. TY has a 4.27% chance to win ----going from 11.34% to 99.94% if they get 1st, or 7.38% if they don't. MyuNgSiK has a 1.67% chance to win ----going from 7.89% to 99.01% if they get 1st, or 6.35% if they don't.
Chances of final Blizzcon seeds Stats has a 1.4% chance to be the #5 seed. Stats has a 3.87% chance to be the #6 seed. Stats has a 7.23% chance to be the #7 seed. Stats has a 11.19% chance to be the #8 seed. Stats has a 22.56% chance to be the #9 seed. Stats has a 27.61% chance to be the #10 seed. Stats has a 17.85% chance to be the #11 seed. Stats has a 6.37% chance to be the #12 seed. Stats has a 1.31% chance to be the #13 seed.
Chances of first round Blizzcon Matches Stats vs Dream has a 20.77% chance for the first round of Blizzcon. Stats vs Classic has a 16.31% chance for the first round of Blizzcon. Stats vs Hydra has a 14.59% chance for the first round of Blizzcon. Stats vs Rain has a 14.57% chance for the first round of Blizzcon. Stats vs Zest has a 4.64% chance for the first round of Blizzcon.
Maru's been slumping lately because of his shoulder problem. Not sure how much he can actually practice now on a daily basis. I'd put him as the definite underdog against all 3 others.
Stats 2-1 Byul: they are both not as good as Maru or Zest, but Byul is the worst of the two.
Maru 2-1 Zest: Zest dismantled Bbyong, but that is not Maru.
Maru 2-0 Stats: Maru just completely outclasses Stats, no questions asked. Stats can get lucky and trick Maru or something, but not likely. That's the only way he can win.
Zest 2-0 Byul: Zest will always be a much better player than Byul. This will be a blowout unless Byul somehow gets lucky again. Zest will only lose against Byul if Zest has an off day and Byul does some gimmick strategy that he usually does to manage to win games
Zest 2-0 Stats: Zest is a better PvP player and Stats is Stats. He believes in coin flips.
All depends on how "hurt" Maru really is. If it is fine now or what ever he will get out of this group. If it really has been bothering him he will most likely crash and burn here.
On July 23 2015 18:32 dazed25 wrote: why is this group called the "group stats"? is stats the korean snute where beating him in the semis means you win the championship?
Top 4 pick their groups, they call it Group Classic Group Stats Group Dream Group herO.
On July 23 2015 18:32 dazed25 wrote: why is this group called the "group stats"? is stats the korean snute where beating him in the semis means you win the championship?
I think each group is named after the seeded player, the semifinalists last season: Classic, Dream, herO, Stats
EDIT: Ninja'd again
And what is with this ad break right at the beginning of the time block? Oh well, more bandwidth for downloading PSO2 then.
On July 23 2015 18:32 dazed25 wrote: why is this group called the "group stats"? is stats the korean snute where beating him in the semis means you win the championship?
Top 4 pick their groups, they call it Group Classic Group Stats Group Dream Group herO.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
29%
★★★- Good game (3)
43%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stats vs ByuL Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 18:50 OtherWorld wrote: ByuL should be inspired by Snute, having a small RH group attacking the third from the low ground e : well ok doesn't matter
Excellent control by Byul on the first attack on the 3rd. That group of Hydras on the right spent the entire time pulling down that Nexus. Great work in zoning out Stats to pull that off.
On July 23 2015 18:50 OtherWorld wrote: ByuL should be inspired by Snute, having a small RH group attacking the third from the low ground e : well ok doesn't matter
Is RH the new Roach Hydra abbrevation?
I always used it because roach hydra is too long to type, but apparently I'm the only one
On July 23 2015 18:48 ilovegroov wrote: Quality Hydra control. And tell me again DK how good gateway units on their own are...
without blink stalkers trade 1-1 with hydras and we all know how blink and ff makes it go. Gateway units are extremely good, Stats just played that wrong.
On July 23 2015 18:50 OtherWorld wrote: ByuL should be inspired by Snute, having a small RH group attacking the third from the low ground e : well ok doesn't matter
Is RH the new Roach Hydra abbrevation?
I always used it because roach hydra is too long to type, but apparently I'm the only one
Makes sense, just never heard it before. But i guess the comp not common enough to be adopted by most.
On July 23 2015 18:48 ilovegroov wrote: Quality Hydra control. And tell me again DK how good gateway units on their own are...
without blink stalkers trade 1-1 with hydras and we all know how blink and ff makes it go. Gateway units are extremely good, Stats just played that wrong.
Ah and if the stalkers have blink the zerg has Vipers and the stalkers still get rekt. Are you seriously trying to tell me that a gateway only army could hold its own beyond the midgame?
On July 23 2015 18:57 OtherWorld wrote: Stats is so scared lately. Cheesing against Trust first, now against ByuL.
This isn't a cheese build This deny the 3rd whilst macroing up Protoss style build. HuK tried make this famous? Or did it then Koreans made it better? Or was it the other way round idk xD
On July 23 2015 18:57 OtherWorld wrote: Stats is so scared lately. Cheesing against Trust first, now against ByuL.
This isn't a cheese build This deny the 3rd whilst macroing up Protoss style build. HuK tried make this famous? Or did it then Koreans made it better? Or was it the other way round idk xD
On July 23 2015 18:57 OtherWorld wrote: Stats is so scared lately. Cheesing against Trust first, now against ByuL.
This isn't a cheese build This deny the 3rd whilst macroing up Protoss style build. HuK tried make this famous? Or did it then Koreans made it better? Or was it the other way round idk xD
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
73%
★★★- Good game (2)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stats vs ByuL Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 19:02 JoeCool wrote: Still do not know why FF are in the game.
this game was over after the Sangate
I don't understand how Moonglade of all people would think ByuL was in a good spot after that with no tech and no drones. Does he not get Sangated on ladder?
On July 23 2015 19:06 Die4Ever wrote: We need Byul to win so that Maru can finally beat Byul in the winners match!
Zest > Maru in first match
I don't think current map pool is that good for blink all-in
Zest has invited Maru to workout with him recently, and told Maru to lift as much as him. Maru couldn't, and his whole body is tired and shaky, hands included, thus he'll lose.
On July 23 2015 19:06 Die4Ever wrote: We need Byul to win so that Maru can finally beat Byul in the winners match!
Zest > Maru in first match
I don't think current map pool is that good for blink all-in
Zest has invited Maru to workout with him recently, and told Maru to lift as much as him. Maru couldn't, and his whole body is tired and shaky, hands included, thus he'll lose.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
25%
★★★- Good game (2)
25%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stats vs ByuL Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: Casting spot on as always. And by spot on i mean they either don't care or don't know what is even happening in the game
On July 23 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: Casting spot on as always. And by spot on i mean they either don't care or don't know what is even happening in the game
tastosis effect is too strong
Maybe that's the curse of being a caster. You either retire early enough to be sad about leaving the game or you cast long enough to see yourself not caring about it anymore
So what's the deal with Maru's shoulder? Is it bad/chronic/gaming related or just a little petty incident? If Maru is hurt we need to fund him a robot shoulder
On July 23 2015 19:15 VengefulTree wrote: So what's the deal with Maru's shoulder? Is it bad/chronic/gaming related or just a little petty incident? If Maru is hurt we need to fund him a robot shoulder
On July 23 2015 19:12 BlackCompany wrote: Casting spot on as always. And by spot on i mean they either don't care or don't know what is even happening in the game
tastosis effect is too strong
Maybe that's the curse of being a caster. You either retire early enough to be sad about leaving the game or you cast long enough to see yourself not caring about it anymore
Yeah I think this is very possible.
Also just like everyone else has days you really don't feel like going to work but you have to (even if you enjoy most days) at least we are not showed on camera.
On July 23 2015 19:15 VengefulTree wrote: So what's the deal with Maru's shoulder? Is it bad/chronic/gaming related or just a little petty incident? If Maru is hurt we need to fund him a robot shoulder
nothing is wrong with it. It's just and excuse to justify him being in a slump after losses today and beyond
On July 23 2015 19:31 FFW_Rude wrote: Can i have game summary if no LR ?
Maru top left, Jest top right 14cc vs proxy stargate in bottom centre Maru also has ebay+2raxes before gas no worries about SG Zest proxies 1base blink Maru loses marines pushing across the map to initial stalkers
Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this? If two races are about macro and lategame and one is all about early game deception? Recently Tasteless mentioned that Terran is about macro and mechanics while Protoss is about deception and mind games. I don't think I want people competing if such vastly different skills are required from them...
On July 23 2015 19:31 FFW_Rude wrote: Can i have game summary if no LR ?
Maru top left, Jest top right 14cc vs proxy stargate in bottom centre Maru also has ebay+2raxes before gas no worries about SG Zest proxies 1base blink Maru loses marines pushing across the map to initial stalkers
Thx Ej_ (and thx for LRSL. Didn't finish to watch it)
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
7%
★★★- Good game (6)
40%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
27%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
13%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Zest Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 19:31 FFW_Rude wrote: Can i have game summary if no LR ?
Maru top left, Jest top right 14cc vs proxy stargate in bottom centre Maru also has ebay+2raxes before gas no worries about SG Zest proxies 1base blink Maru loses marines pushing across the map to initial stalkers
Zest screams "YEONSUUUUUUU" as he remembers 2014 Maru has to fly away antural, contained on 1 base by stalkers and oracle Zest taking fights in main, Maru almost no units but he has medivacs haha medivacs ain't got nothing to kill gg
On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote: Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this?
On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote: Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this? If two races are about macro and lategame and one is all about early game deception? Recently Tasteless mentioned that Terran is about macro and mechanics while Protoss is about deception and mind games. I don't think I want people competing if such vastly different skills are required from them...
No I don't like this. But Maru made many mistakes.
On July 23 2015 19:31 FFW_Rude wrote: Can i have game summary if no LR ?
Maru top left, Jest top right 14cc vs proxy stargate in bottom centre Maru also has ebay+2raxes before gas no worries about SG Zest proxies 1base blink Maru loses marines pushing across the map to initial stalkers
Zest screams "YEONSUUUUUUU" as he remembers 2014 Maru has to fly away antural, contained on 1 base by stalkers and oracle Zest taking fights in main, Maru almost no units but he has medivacs haha medivacs ain't got nothing to kill gg
Zest 1-0 Maru
I never thought of "Yeonsu" as a battle cry haha
I was actually on hiatus during the terror of Yeonsu so I only hear about it in the legends
On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote: Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this?
I liked it
me too, has to be something keeping terran honest from just macroing up to a laZboy scv pull
On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote: Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this?
On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote: Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this?
I liked it
me too, has to be something keeping terran honest from just macroing up to a laZboy scv pull
I rather give the other races the same cheesy all-in options, when two players do polar opposite cheeses it produces the most spontaneous and interesting games.
On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote: Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this?
I liked it
me too, has to be something keeping terran honest from just macroing up to a laZboy scv pull
I rather give the other races the same cheesy all-in options, when two players do polar opposite cheeses it produces the most spontaneous and interesting games.
taeja proxy reaper vs life proxy hatch. never forget.
On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote: Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this? If two races are about macro and lategame and one is all about early game deception? Recently Tasteless mentioned that Terran is about macro and mechanics while Protoss is about deception and mind games. I don't think I want people competing if such vastly different skills are required from them...
No I don't like this. But Maru made many mistakes.
To me it seemed like to his information there could be either macro play behind the oracle or this blink follow up. Did he really have the information to decide? I don't think so. If it hadn't been more aggression his moves would have been fine I think. And usually people don't follow up aggression with even more aggression. This isn't supposed to be a game of rolling dice.
On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote: Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this?
I liked it
me too, has to be something keeping terran honest from just macroing up to a laZboy scv pull
I rather give the other races the same cheesy all-in options, when two players do polar opposite cheeses it produces the most spontaneous and interesting games.
taeja proxy reaper vs life proxy hatch. never forget.
That was the best game of Starcraft 2 ever played. Period.
On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote: Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this?
I liked it
me too, has to be something keeping terran honest from just macroing up to a laZboy scv pull
I rather give the other races the same cheesy all-in options, when two players do polar opposite cheeses it produces the most spontaneous and interesting games.
id love better z cheese but you'd have to completely change larva mechanic or add a unit
On July 23 2015 19:33 ilovegroov wrote: Why can't we do something about a cheesy all-in race like this? I don't mean this as a balance whine, more like gameplay discussion. Do people actually like this? If two races are about macro and lategame and one is all about early game deception? Recently Tasteless mentioned that Terran is about macro and mechanics while Protoss is about deception and mind games. I don't think I want people competing if such vastly different skills are required from them...
No I don't like this. But Maru made many mistakes.
To me it seemed like to his information there could be either macro play behind the oracle or this blink follow up. Did he really have the information to decide? I don't think so. If it hadn't been more aggression his moves would have been fine I think. And usually people don't follow up aggression with even more aggression. This isn't supposed to be a game of rolling dice.
there's nothing you can do to convince me you aren't just a terran ladder player with bad scouting lol
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
50%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
25%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
13%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Zest Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: Map was Bridgehead i assume ?
it was Cactus Valley, hence failed proxy oracle
Oh ok. I need to reinstall SC2 to play a couple games on those maps.
so game 3 was on Echo: Zest defending Maru's initial attacks well, then killing 7 workers with DT drop, then defending his 3 medivac counter attack very well and then Maru just attacks with his entire force, drops on both collossi and cleans up the rest from behind his Raven's PDD
Why drop when you can just run up the ramp and kill everything as terran. Zest played perfectly until that one mistake of losing 2 collosus that lost him the game.
On July 23 2015 19:48 DarkLordOlli wrote: Wtf was that
This is why people never rate Zest PvT highly
Yeah, and it's why people are wrong. He just messed up an otherwise brilliant game. That has little do do with bad PvT, it's bad reaction time.
You seem to love Zest much, and I do too, but his PvT has always been his Achilles' heel. Sometimes it's great, sometimes it's bad enough to lose to TANGTANG. He can have pretty underwhelming early game micro and can be made to fall apart against multi-pronged agression.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
10%
★★★- Good game (3)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (13)
62%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
10%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Zest Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Such a good game by Zest. Finally.
Make your mind up
It was very bad by Zest, but he made the very best out of it.
I think Maru messed up there, I dunno how but his starport was finishing at around 11 minutes. That's so stupidly late. Don't think that should happen if you're up against a DT drop with 3CC.
On July 23 2015 19:55 DarkLordOlli wrote: This is so bad for Zest
On July 23 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Such a good game by Zest. Finally.
Make your mind up
It was very bad by Zest, but he made the very best out of it.
I think Maru messed up there, I dunno how but his starport was finishing at around 11 minutes. That's so stupidly late. Don't think that should happen if you're up against a DT drop with 3CC.
that game felt like it could have been Flash vs herO where the macro fell apart due to some harass.
On July 23 2015 19:55 DarkLordOlli wrote: This is so bad for Zest
On July 23 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Such a good game by Zest. Finally.
Make your mind up
It was very bad by Zest, but he made the very best out of it.
I think Maru messed up there, I dunno how but his starport was finishing at around 11 minutes. That's so stupidly late.
Maru definitely messed up. He took way too much damage against DTs he knew were coming and teched absurdly slowly. Even with sloppy big fights control Zest just had to macro up to ensure the win.
On July 23 2015 19:55 DarkLordOlli wrote: This is so bad for Zest
On July 23 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Such a good game by Zest. Finally.
Make your mind up
It was very bad by Zest, but he made the very best out of it.
I think Maru messed up there, I dunno how but his starport was finishing at around 11 minutes. That's so stupidly late. Don't think that should happen if you're up against a DT drop with 3CC.
Guess he should leave the 3cc builds to Flash and stick to 2 base 5 rax
On July 23 2015 20:06 digmouse wrote: Zest pretty much 1-Ad those last fights.
Actually, you could see Zest was microing really well to minimise the damage from the vikings. He kept repositioning his stalkers to deal with them and poked in and out with the colossi so that they took fewer shots.
On July 23 2015 20:08 FFW_Rude wrote: Ej_ ? Telle me what happened ! Tell me how great the 4star game was !
I hate work.
3CC vs proxy DTs, Maru obviously doesn't take much damage, but he stays at home, can't force a cancel on 3rd nexus, lands his 3rd stupidly late. Doesn't have a single drop going throughout the game while DT drops are killing his workers and keeping him at home.
then Zest maxes out and moves out and blink/archon/collossus > MMM/ghost/viking
On July 23 2015 20:12 sharkie wrote: Maru losing was worst possible scenario for Byul
I don't think so. He won the first match, and to get out of the group he has to beat Zest or Maru, now he has a chance to get out of the group with beating only one, and if he fails he gets a second chance. Pretty ideal scenario if you ask me.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
11%
★★★- Good game (3)
16%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (10)
53%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
5%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 20:40 brickrd wrote: really feel like zvp in the current meta depends on forcing mistakes and finding holes, kinda like old tvp. not impossible/imba but frustrating
On July 23 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand that attack at all.
Aftermath of Zest's failed all in. He had no 4th his tech was behind and had an army that would be useless fast + spores and lings everywhere so no chance for dt's to save him this time.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (8)
73%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
9%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
18%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 20:40 brickrd wrote: really feel like zvp in the current meta depends on forcing mistakes and finding holes, kinda like old tvp. not impossible/imba but frustrating
TvP changed ?
Yes, it just be ghosts vs high templar endgames, now we don't reach that stage that much anymore
On July 23 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand that attack at all.
Aftermath of Zest's failed all in. He had no 4th his tech was behind and had an army that would be useless fast + spores and lings everywhere so no chance for dt's to save him this time.
the solution to being in a bad spot isn't to put yourself in a much worse spot, though.
On July 23 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand that attack at all.
Aftermath of Zest's failed all in. He had no 4th his tech was behind and had an army that would be useless fast + spores and lings everywhere so no chance for dt's to save him this time.
the solution to being in a bad spot isn't to put yourself in a much worse spot, though.
On July 23 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand that attack at all.
Aftermath of Zest's failed all in. He had no 4th his tech was behind and had an army that would be useless fast + spores and lings everywhere so no chance for dt's to save him this time.
Zest had an amazing response to the broodlords and killed 3 bases in the time byul killed 1, he probably would have won if he didn't suicide his army.
On July 23 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand that attack at all.
Aftermath of Zest's failed all in. He had no 4th his tech was behind and had an army that would be useless fast + spores and lings everywhere so no chance for dt's to save him this time.
Zest had an amazing response to the broodlords and killed 3 bases in the time byul killed 1, he probably would have won if he didn't suicide his army.
Yeah but ByuL probably wouldn't have pushed out if Zest didn't suicide his army.
On July 23 2015 20:50 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand that attack at all.
Aftermath of Zest's failed all in. He had no 4th his tech was behind and had an army that would be useless fast + spores and lings everywhere so no chance for dt's to save him this time.
Zest had an amazing response to the broodlords and killed 3 bases in the time byul killed 1, he probably would have won if he didn't suicide his army.
That is cause Buyl attacked (and won easily tbh) If Zest didn't throw his army trying to get on top of the tech(which he failed) and end the game Buyl wouldn't move out. Tempest don't counter broodlrods easily anymore you need a fuck ton of them and zerg can just slowly Crawler push and split the map unfairly. He just thought he wouldn't win the long game vs that so hoped he could break that he didn't.
On July 23 2015 21:02 marvellosity wrote: shouldn't he have taken down the hatch, though?
Yeah I think so. But also, it's a tough call to make. He can't really know if an overseer is being made and if he targets the hatch and doesn't kill it, he wastes a lot of money for nothing.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★- Good game (5)
83%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
swag_bro calls him the most handsome progamer. Nuff said.
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
lol that can't be true
effOrt not being a marketable persona is rumoured to be one of the reasons behind his 1st retirement, back in BW
I'm so fucking angry about Zest's play right now, first he throws that 2nd game against a wall so hard it breaks his nose and now this game? FFS. Now he's gonna get eliminated because everyone always loses their rematch.
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
lol that can't be true
You haven't heard that? It was in the effOrt retirement thread I think. I could be untrue but that rumor surfaced a couple of times.
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
lol that can't be true
effOrt not being a marketable persona is rumoured to be one of the reasons behind his 1st retirement, back in BW
They just didn't know how to market him ; he should have done adverts with hawks
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
lol that can't be true
effOrt not being a marketable persona is rumoured to be one of the reasons behind his 1st retirement, back in BW
effOrt was CJ's zerg ace at one point. He had results and the flashy play. Stupid CJ....
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
lol that can't be true
effOrt not being a marketable persona is rumoured to be one of the reasons behind his 1st retirement, back in BW
that's a pretty big difference from it being because he wasn't good looking enough, idk about in BW but he wasn't amazing in SC2
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
Buyl is closer to KR standard It's a lot more complicated than that. To put it simply back in BW Effort was an SS class zerg so his contract was expensive as hell. They essentially refused to increase his pay to what he wanted (a pay worth of a top class player which they didn't want to pay but still wanted him on their team) but they refused They also stopped him from switching his team( dunno by what means) that could have offered more money. Then they released a fake notice of his retirement ( as some sort of pressure move like you are with as or you aren't a progamer statement) and Effort decided to tell them to go fuck themselves It's all about money they didn't want to pay him more money so they used any excuse and shady shit to avoid that A lot of that happened after the whole matchfixing incident too so it was all a mess with sponsers taking a step back and teams blaming players for matchfixing a lot.
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
lol that can't be true
effOrt not being a marketable persona is rumoured to be one of the reasons behind his 1st retirement, back in BW
that's a pretty big difference from it being because he wasn't good looking enough, idk about in BW but he wasn't amazing in SC2
"marketable persona" refering to his looks. He was forced to reitre in SC2 because his coach and team accused him and Hydra of matchfixing
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
lol that can't be true
effOrt not being a marketable persona is rumoured to be one of the reasons behind his 1st retirement, back in BW
that's a pretty big difference from it being because he wasn't good looking enough, idk about in BW but he wasn't amazing in SC2
effOrt beat FlaSh in a Starleague finals, effOrt was also CJ's ace and saviOr's heir in some way
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
lol that can't be true
effOrt not being a marketable persona is rumoured to be one of the reasons behind his 1st retirement, back in BW
that's a pretty big difference from it being because he wasn't good looking enough, idk about in BW but he wasn't amazing in SC2
"marketable persona" refering to his looks. He was forced to reitre in SC2 because his coach and team accused him and Hydra of matchfixing
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
Buyl is closer to KR standard It's a lot more complicated than that. To put it simply back in BW Effort was an SS class zerg so his contract was expensive as hell. They essentially refused to increase his pay to what he wanted (a pay worth of a top class player which they didn't want to pay but still wanted him on their team) but they refused They also stopped him from switching his team( dunno by what means) that could have offered more money. Then they released a fake notice of his retirement ( as some sort of pressure move like you are with as or you aren't a progamer statement) and Effort decided to tell them to go fuck themselves It's all about money they didn't want to pay him more money so they used any excuse and shady shit to avoid that A lot of that happened after the whole matchfixing incident too so it was all a mess with sponsers taking a step back and teams blaming players for matchfixing a lot.
sounds like some KeSPA bullshit, the only thing stronger than Protoss bullshit I wonder if he could've joined a foreign team though
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
Buyl is closer to KR standard It's a lot more complicated than that. To put it simply back in BW Effort was an SS class zerg so his contract was expensive as hell. They essentially refused to increase his pay to what he wanted (a pay worth of a top class player which they didn't want to pay but still wanted him on their team) but they refused They also stopped him from switching his team( dunno by what means) that could have offered more money. Then they released a fake notice of his retirement ( as some sort of pressure move like you are with as or you aren't a progamer statement) and Effort decided to tell them to go fuck themselves It's all about money they didn't want to pay him more money so they used any excuse and shady shit to avoid that A lot of that happened after the whole matchfixing incident too so it was all a mess with sponsers taking a step back and teams blaming players for matchfixing a lot.
sounds like some KeSPA bullshit, the only thing stronger than Protoss bullshit I wonder if he could've joined a foreign team though
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
Buyl is closer to KR standard It's a lot more complicated than that. To put it simply back in BW Effort was an SS class zerg so his contract was expensive as hell. They essentially refused to increase his pay to what he wanted (a pay worth of a top class player which they didn't want to pay but still wanted him on their team) but they refused They also stopped him from switching his team( dunno by what means) that could have offered more money. Then they released a fake notice of his retirement ( as some sort of pressure move like you are with as or you aren't a progamer statement) and Effort decided to tell them to go fuck themselves It's all about money they didn't want to pay him more money so they used any excuse and shady shit to avoid that A lot of that happened after the whole matchfixing incident too so it was all a mess with sponsers taking a step back and teams blaming players for matchfixing a lot.
Is that true that CJ marketing is managing CJ Entus ?
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
Buyl is closer to KR standard It's a lot more complicated than that. To put it simply back in BW Effort was an SS class zerg so his contract was expensive as hell. They essentially refused to increase his pay to what he wanted (a pay worth of a top class player which they didn't want to pay but still wanted him on their team) but they refused They also stopped him from switching his team( dunno by what means) that could have offered more money. Then they released a fake notice of his retirement ( as some sort of pressure move like you are with as or you aren't a progamer statement) and Effort decided to tell them to go fuck themselves It's all about money they didn't want to pay him more money so they used any excuse and shady shit to avoid that A lot of that happened after the whole matchfixing incident too so it was all a mess with sponsers taking a step back and teams blaming players for matchfixing a lot.
sounds like some KeSPA bullshit, the only thing stronger than Protoss bullshit I wonder if he could've joined a foreign team though
In BW? Lol. Progaming didn't exist outside of Korea. During his SC2 retirement, he decided to take care of his (now deceased I think) mother.
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
Buyl is closer to KR standard It's a lot more complicated than that. To put it simply back in BW Effort was an SS class zerg so his contract was expensive as hell. They essentially refused to increase his pay to what he wanted (a pay worth of a top class player which they didn't want to pay but still wanted him on their team) but they refused They also stopped him from switching his team( dunno by what means) that could have offered more money. Then they released a fake notice of his retirement ( as some sort of pressure move like you are with as or you aren't a progamer statement) and Effort decided to tell them to go fuck themselves It's all about money they didn't want to pay him more money so they used any excuse and shady shit to avoid that A lot of that happened after the whole matchfixing incident too so it was all a mess with sponsers taking a step back and teams blaming players for matchfixing a lot.
Is that true that CJ marketing is managing CJ Entus ?
I don't have any information that isn't public Dunno about stuff like that.
On July 23 2015 21:09 c0ldfusion wrote: Yo Byul rocked that game...
This is what I don't get it. I heard that CJ forced effOrt to retire because he wasn't a good looking guy? But look at Byul, I wouldn't call him handsome, traditionally speaking.
Buyl is closer to KR standard It's a lot more complicated than that. To put it simply back in BW Effort was an SS class zerg so his contract was expensive as hell. They essentially refused to increase his pay to what he wanted (a pay worth of a top class player which they didn't want to pay but still wanted him on their team) but they refused They also stopped him from switching his team( dunno by what means) that could have offered more money. Then they released a fake notice of his retirement ( as some sort of pressure move like you are with as or you aren't a progamer statement) and Effort decided to tell them to go fuck themselves It's all about money they didn't want to pay him more money so they used any excuse and shady shit to avoid that A lot of that happened after the whole matchfixing incident too so it was all a mess with sponsers taking a step back and teams blaming players for matchfixing a lot.
Is that true that CJ marketing is managing CJ Entus ?
I think that If Stats wins against Maru then Zest advances but If Maru wins against Stats, he is gonna be prepared against Zest heavy DT usage and with Zests army control not looking very sharp he should be able to win.
On July 23 2015 21:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: ByuL won ? Man. I'm really surprised, I left after the first game. Good games ?
Not at all.
Ha ha ha.
What happened ?
game 2 Slowling attack that did enough damge to pay for itself (no advantage for anyone) oracle 6 gate into Byul smelling it out and setting defense so well Zest didn't bother trying Zest went back started super late blink and 3rd (late late late) Byul went for broodlord infestor with mass ling ugprades Zest tried to hit a storm blink timing before Byul had BL out Byul had spines. Game 3 Zest went DT Byul made spores. Zest almost sniped the hatch cause Byul botched it a bit but Zest botched it right back Then Zest took a late 3rd (late late late) and tried to not die to mass hydra ling with blink stalker. Then he died.
On July 23 2015 21:11 Elentos wrote: I'm so fucking angry about Zest's play right now, first he throws that 2nd game against a wall so hard it breaks his nose and now this game? FFS. Now he's gonna get eliminated because everyone always loses their rematch.
On July 23 2015 21:11 Elentos wrote: I'm so fucking angry about Zest's play right now, first he throws that 2nd game against a wall so hard it breaks his nose and now this game? FFS. Now he's gonna get eliminated because everyone always loses their rematch.
On July 23 2015 21:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: ByuL won ? Man. I'm really surprised, I left after the first game. Good games ?
Not at all.
Ha ha ha.
What happened ?
game 2 Slowling attack that did enough damge to pay for itself (no advantage for anyone) oracle 6 gate into Byul smelling it out and setting defense so well Zest didn't bother trying Zest went back started super late blink and 3rd (late late late) Byul went for broodlord infestor with mass ling ugprades Zest tried to hit a storm blink timing before Byul had BL out Byul had spines.
Sounds fun. Was terrible to watch ? Sounds like the kind of games I can have fun watching.
On July 23 2015 21:11 Elentos wrote: I'm so fucking angry about Zest's play right now, first he throws that 2nd game against a wall so hard it breaks his nose and now this game? FFS. Now he's gonna get eliminated because everyone always loses their rematch.
yeah, the dream is dead
Zest has had a weird day, looking really great at points and some terrible errors at others.
On July 23 2015 21:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: ByuL won ? Man. I'm really surprised, I left after the first game. Good games ?
Not at all.
Ha ha ha.
What happened ?
game 2 Slowling attack that did enough damge to pay for itself (no advantage for anyone) oracle 6 gate into Byul smelling it out and setting defense so well Zest didn't bother trying Zest went back started super late blink and 3rd (late late late) Byul went for broodlord infestor with mass ling ugprades Zest tried to hit a storm blink timing before Byul had BL out Byul had spines.
Sounds fun. Was terrible to watch ? Sounds like the kind of games I can have fun watching.
How was game 3 ?
Meh I don't think it was bad or anything. Just one sided and not particular actiony or long
On July 23 2015 21:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: ByuL won ? Man. I'm really surprised, I left after the first game. Good games ?
Not at all.
Ha ha ha.
What happened ?
game 2 Slowling attack that did enough damge to pay for itself (no advantage for anyone) oracle 6 gate into Byul smelling it out and setting defense so well Zest didn't bother trying Zest went back started super late blink and 3rd (late late late) Byul went for broodlord infestor with mass ling ugprades Zest tried to hit a storm blink timing before Byul had BL out Byul had spines.
Sounds fun. Was terrible to watch ? Sounds like the kind of games I can have fun watching.
How was game 3 ?
failed DT rush, then he takes forward 3rd on Cactus Valley and mass hydra rolls over blink stalkers with barely any sentries
On July 23 2015 21:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: ByuL won ? Man. I'm really surprised, I left after the first game. Good games ?
Not at all.
Ha ha ha.
What happened ?
game 2 Slowling attack that did enough damge to pay for itself (no advantage for anyone) oracle 6 gate into Byul smelling it out and setting defense so well Zest didn't bother trying Zest went back started super late blink and 3rd (late late late) Byul went for broodlord infestor with mass ling ugprades Zest tried to hit a storm blink timing before Byul had BL out Byul had spines.
Sounds fun. Was terrible to watch ? Sounds like the kind of games I can have fun watching.
How was game 3 ?
2base DTs (14 drone kills) into 3b blink vs ling/hydra. Except Zest took the closest third [Cactus Valley horizontal btw] and lost.
On July 23 2015 21:11 Elentos wrote: I'm so fucking angry about Zest's play right now, first he throws that 2nd game against a wall so hard it breaks his nose and now this game? FFS. Now he's gonna get eliminated because everyone always loses their rematch.
On July 23 2015 21:11 Elentos wrote: I'm so fucking angry about Zest's play right now, first he throws that 2nd game against a wall so hard it breaks his nose and now this game? FFS. Now he's gonna get eliminated because everyone always loses their rematch.
On July 23 2015 21:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: ByuL won ? Man. I'm really surprised, I left after the first game. Good games ?
Not at all.
Ha ha ha.
What happened ?
game 2 Slowling attack that did enough damge to pay for itself (no advantage for anyone) oracle 6 gate into Byul smelling it out and setting defense so well Zest didn't bother trying Zest went back started super late blink and 3rd (late late late) Byul went for broodlord infestor with mass ling ugprades Zest tried to hit a storm blink timing before Byul had BL out Byul had spines.
Sounds fun. Was terrible to watch ? Sounds like the kind of games I can have fun watching.
How was game 3 ?
2base DTs (14 drone kills) into 3b blink vs ling/hydra. Except Zest took the closest third [Cactus Valley horizontal btw] and lost.
Also his FF were pretty bad. There was always a hole in them.
On July 23 2015 21:11 Elentos wrote: I'm so fucking angry about Zest's play right now, first he throws that 2nd game against a wall so hard it breaks his nose and now this game? FFS. Now he's gonna get eliminated because everyone always loses their rematch.
On July 23 2015 21:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: ByuL won ? Man. I'm really surprised, I left after the first game. Good games ?
Not at all.
Ha ha ha.
What happened ?
game 2 Slowling attack that did enough damge to pay for itself (no advantage for anyone) oracle 6 gate into Byul smelling it out and setting defense so well Zest didn't bother trying Zest went back started super late blink and 3rd (late late late) Byul went for broodlord infestor with mass ling ugprades Zest tried to hit a storm blink timing before Byul had BL out Byul had spines.
Sounds fun. Was terrible to watch ? Sounds like the kind of games I can have fun watching.
How was game 3 ?
2base DTs (14 drone kills) into 3b blink vs ling/hydra. Except Zest took the closest third [Cactus Valley horizontal btw] and lost.
Also his FF were pretty bad. There was always a hole in them.
Between them, to be more precise. Although having holes in the FF itself would be a fun way to add RNG into the game (;
I remember when I used to win every PvT with gate pressure in WoL (ah, Cloud Kingdom). It just never works in HotS. I mean it can work, but not vs WMs.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
25%
★★★- Good game (3)
38%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
25%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 21:33 [PkF] Wire wrote: I remember when I used to win every PvT with gate pressure in WoL (ah, Cloud Kingdom). It just never works in HotS. I mean it can work, but not vs WMs.
It would've worked if stats hadnt completely bungled his micro vs the dropped mines
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
25%
★★★- Good game (3)
38%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
25%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 21:33 [PkF] Wire wrote: I remember when I used to win every PvT with gate pressure in WoL (ah, Cloud Kingdom). It just never works in HotS. I mean it can work, but not vs WMs.
It would've worked if stats hadnt completely bungled his micro vs the dropped mines
It was like 15 marines, one medivac and 2 mines vs 5 stalkers and 5 zealots. With scv pulled, I don't see how this could have worked.
I figured out the KT plan today Step 1 Zest beats Maru Step 2 Stats loses to byul Step 3 Zest loses to Byul Step 4 Stats loses to Maru to make Maru look cool Step 5 Zest beats Maru again Step 6 ZEST HAS SUCH GOOD PVT Profit?
On July 23 2015 21:38 HellHound wrote: I figured out the KT plan today Step 1 Zest beats Maru Step 2 Stats loses to byul Step 3 Zest loses to Byul Step 4 Stats loses to Maru to make Maru look cool Step 5 Zest beats Maru again Step 6 ZEST HAS SUCH GOOD PVT Profit?
KT can now send Zest in the ace vs JAGW without knowing they'll lose. Hype !
On July 23 2015 21:38 HellHound wrote: I figured out the KT plan today Step 1 Zest beats Maru Step 2 Stats loses to byul Step 3 Zest loses to Byul Step 4 Stats loses to Maru to make Maru look cool Step 5 Zest beats Maru again Step 6 ZEST HAS SUCH GOOD PVT Profit?
KT can now send Zest in the ace vs JAGW without knowing they'll lose. Hype !
That or they can play the guy with a winning record vs Maru who is known for being really clutch.
On July 23 2015 21:38 HellHound wrote: I figured out the KT plan today Step 1 Zest beats Maru Step 2 Stats loses to byul Step 3 Zest loses to Byul Step 4 Stats loses to Maru to make Maru look cool Step 5 Zest beats Maru again Step 6 ZEST HAS SUCH GOOD PVT Profit?
KT can now send Zest in the ace vs JAGW without knowing they'll lose. Hype !
That or they can play the guy with a winning record vs Maru who is known for being really clutch.
what the hell man.. i refuse to believe that the pre-SSL semifinals Stats we saw was some overperformer. he had such crisp play and fantastic execution :/
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
14%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
21%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
60%
★★★- Good game (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
Someone actually did the full Rotti Build last night in Code A.
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
Someone actually did the full Rotti Build last night in Code A.
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
Someone actually did the full Rotti Build last night in Code A.
The Meta still hasn't recovered.
First tried it twice and he could have made it work the second time if he didn't lose his oracle or 2 tempests for nothing.
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
The real prophet of one of the most obnoxious Protoss builds can be proud
When did Stats add the beacon ? I mean, did he intend to do a Rotti build or did he go for it after he knew he was scouted and was likely to do little to no damage with the oracle ?
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
Someone actually did the full Rotti Build last night in Code A.
The Meta still hasn't recovered.
Doing it in code a is much more impressive than pulling it out in an SSL final much more prestigeous.
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
The real prophet of one of the most obnoxious Protoss builds can be proud
When did Stats add the beacon ? I mean, did he intend to do a Rotti build or did he go for it after he knew he was scouted and was likely to do little to no damage with the oracle ?
I think Stats tried a lesser-known variant, the desperation Rotti build
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
The real prophet of one of the most obnoxious Protoss builds can be proud
When did Stats add the beacon ? I mean, did he intend to do a Rotti build or did he go for it after he knew he was scouted and was likely to do little to no damage with the oracle ?
I think Stats tried a lesser-known variant, the desperation Rotti build
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
Someone actually did the full Rotti Build last night in Code A.
The Meta still hasn't recovered.
And that was the day when Rotti was found as the foreigner savior of Korean Protosses. And thus He claimed the right position next to CatZ, the savior of Korean Zergs. Now we are waiting who will claim the left position next to CatZ and completes the holy trinity.
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
Someone actually did the full Rotti Build last night in Code A.
The Meta still hasn't recovered.
And that was the day when Rotti was found as the foreigner savior of Korean Protosses. And thus He claimed the right position next to CatZ, the savior of Korean Zergs. Now we are waiting who will claim the left position next to CatZ and completes the holy trinity.
On July 23 2015 21:47 RotterdaM wrote: These guys man... funny thing is I think during WCS America Season 2 2013 I kept trying to push Liquid Hero to do it, he always giggled and said mb but never went through with it
Someone actually did the full Rotti Build last night in Code A.
The Meta still hasn't recovered.
And that was the day when Rotti was found as the foreigner savior of Korean Protosses. And thus He claimed the right position next to CatZ, the savior of Korean Zergs. Now we are waiting who will claim the left position next to CatZ and completes the holy trinity.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (3)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (13)
65%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
15%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
★★★- Good game (3)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (11)
65%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
12%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 22:29 djraphi23 wrote: This build is disgustingly good, he almost made it work.
Wouldn't have looked even remotely close on any map without a backdoor (yeah, I know, that's not most of the maps nowadays).
Not exactly, it's mostly the fact that the defender's distance is the same as the attacker's on EL.
Yeah the attacker can switch between attack locations so easily. True it doesn't really hold on Bridgehead or Moonlight.
To be fair on EL there are the rock towers to lenghten the attacker's distance between backdoor and natural. But no one never puts them down when defending an all-in for some reason ><
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★- Good game (1)
5%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (14)
67%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
10%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 23 2015 22:44 [PkF] Wire wrote: Thing with Zest is he can look quite on point today and get crushed by TY/Dream if they meet later. His PvT is just not reliable.
Saying that as if Dream isn't s class tvp :D You should mention Prime instead.
On July 23 2015 22:44 [PkF] Wire wrote: Thing with Zest is he can look quite on point today and get crushed by TY/Dream if they meet later. His PvT is just not reliable.
Saying that as if Dream isn't s class tvp :D You should mention Prime instead.
On July 23 2015 22:44 [PkF] Wire wrote: Thing with Zest is he can look quite on point today and get crushed by TY/Dream if they meet later. His PvT is just not reliable.
Saying that as if Dream isn't s class tvp :D You should mention Prime instead.
No of course TY and Dream have excellent TvP, but what I mean is that the fact Zest beat Maru doesn't mean we can assume he's solved his recurrent vT problems.
On July 23 2015 22:44 [PkF] Wire wrote: Thing with Zest is he can look quite on point today and get crushed by TY/Dream if they meet later. His PvT is just not reliable.
Saying that as if Dream isn't s class tvp :D You should mention Prime instead.
No of course TY and Dream have excellent TvP, but what I mean is that the fact Zest beat Maru doesn't mean we can assume he's solved his recurrent vT problems.
Well from the start Zest only truly shines when he get's to prepare well.
i am almost happy for not having watched from your responses. i really love watching maru being maru, so today would have been painful. i really hope he is not going the taeja road
On July 23 2015 22:43 Silvana wrote: WHAT HE WON??????????????? OMG WHAT SHOULD I DO TO MY POOR HAIR NOW
You ate them don't you ?
haha yeah but I also said if Zest beats Maru I would dye it just like him
now that he beat him twice I feel like I should go further!
not Tails level of farness tho
I thought you had your hair dyed in Red. But if you want to go further... You have to dye the cat. A hat is not enough.
I'd love to dye my cat KT style too! but I won't do anything remotely close to even minimal harm to him, he is a pure soul and doesn't deserve to be the victim of my KT fangirling.
What a glorious day guys, I suffered a lot but seeing Zest play that well, showing a nice variety of builds, despite the derps he looked really good! I'm happy ^.^
On July 23 2015 22:44 [PkF] Wire wrote: Thing with Zest is he can look quite on point today and get crushed by TY/Dream if they meet later. His PvT is just not reliable.
Saying that as if Dream isn't s class tvp :D You should mention Prime instead.
No of course TY and Dream have excellent TvP, but what I mean is that the fact Zest beat Maru doesn't mean we can assume he's solved his recurrent vT problems.
Honestly, I think Zest's biggest issues in TvP are that he flips the coin too much sometimes and sloppiness in defending (mine) drops (I think that cost him 2 or 3 Proleague games against Maru).
On July 23 2015 22:46 c0ldfusion wrote: Maru is in a weird slump right now dropped his PL match too.
I have to take issue with your use of the word "slump": here. sure Maru didn't look that great today but you can't expect players to win every match they play.
even at their peak in broodwar guys like Flash and Bisu only had like 60 - 70% winrates in their best matchups, and if anything SC2 is a more volatile game so I don't think you should read too much into a few poor results.
Kinda expected this... Maru has huge shoulder and wrist issues. And its only getting worse. On a normal day he would never lose a TvT vs Dream that easily and would never go mech in TvT like vs Bravo. Even today he held back a lot, in a normal condition he would wreck Zests Collosi way sooner and not drag the game out and go to Vikings. He just feels his reactions and micro are not that great right now so is afraid to play Maru like and just buldoze the midgame.
A shame really... hope he gets soon better. Its tough seeying him suffer at such young age and I miss the pure Maru style.
where can we get the vods quickest nowadays? still on youtube/esportstv or is there another way? looks like the rewind functionality on azubu no longer works
On July 23 2015 23:33 Tsubbi wrote: where can we get the vods quickest nowadays? still on youtube/esportstv or is there another way? looks like the rewind functionality on azubu no longer works
At least one KT player advanced. Shame about Byul playing so excellently today. Zest + Maru would've been ideal, but still, there were some great games today.
On July 24 2015 02:07 sharkie wrote: Zest was much better prepared than Maru today. I think Maru came with an overconfident attitude to these games.
I kinda feel that from all top4 WCS pointers (herO, Life, Maru, Parting). I don't think they are giving it all in these tournaments.
Cause they already made it to Blizzcon? I always thought koreans think korean tournaments > everything else. But Blizzcon is basically a korean tournament, hehe
On July 24 2015 02:07 sharkie wrote: Zest was much better prepared than Maru today. I think Maru came with an overconfident attitude to these games.
I kinda feel that from all top4 WCS pointers (herO, Life, Maru, Parting). I don't think they are giving it all in these tournaments.
Cause they already made it to Blizzcon? I always thought koreans think korean tournaments > everything else. But Blizzcon is basically a korean tournament, hehe
The prizepool for BlizzCon is way higher than what GSL/SSL can offer though, that's something
On July 24 2015 02:07 sharkie wrote: Zest was much better prepared than Maru today. I think Maru came with an overconfident attitude to these games.
I kinda feel that from all top4 WCS pointers (herO, Life, Maru, Parting). I don't think they are giving it all in these tournaments.
Cause they already made it to Blizzcon? I always thought koreans think korean tournaments > everything else. But Blizzcon is basically a korean tournament, hehe
The prizepool for BlizzCon is way higher than what GSL/SSL can offer though, that's something
That's true, but still... Winning korean tournaments might increase your "market value" and thus your salary. I mean i just don't see why they wouldn't try just cause Blizzcon participation is already safe.
On July 24 2015 02:07 sharkie wrote: Zest was much better prepared than Maru today. I think Maru came with an overconfident attitude to these games.
I kinda feel that from all top4 WCS pointers (herO, Life, Maru, Parting). I don't think they are giving it all in these tournaments.
Cause they already made it to Blizzcon? I always thought koreans think korean tournaments > everything else. But Blizzcon is basically a korean tournament, hehe
The prizepool for BlizzCon is way higher than what GSL/SSL can offer though, that's something
That's true, but still... Winning korean tournaments might increase your "market value" and thus your salary. I mean i just don't see why they wouldn't try just cause Blizzcon participation is already safe.
yeah but do you think its a coincidence that all four started dropping at the same time?
On July 24 2015 02:51 The_Red_Viper wrote: Nah this could be true, i just can't understand why a competitor would think that way.
I think a Mvp quote from the Elephants in the Room article is fitting here d:
Haha well i am sure that's the case, but being THE BEST might be worth something too :D And even there, it's not like winning GSL/SSL doesn't give good money
On July 24 2015 02:51 The_Red_Viper wrote: Nah this could be true, i just can't understand why a competitor would think that way.
I think a Mvp quote from the Elephants in the Room article is fitting here d:
Haha well i am sure that's the case, but being THE BEST might be worth something too :D And even there, it's not like winning GSL/SSL doesn't give good money
yeah true. I think it's just a combination of things tbh, I mean if you're very good in the first months of the year like Maru/Life/PartinG/herO you're more likely to play worse as the year goes on as opposed to Zest or soO who only got better.
Hey guys, I have created the English subtitles for this short clip on SSL. Thankfully the director of S2SL uploaded the subtitle to the clip. Hope you guys could enjoy it, it's very amusing.
Hey guys, I have created the English subtitles for this short clip on SSL. Thankfully the director of S2SL uploaded the subtitle to the clip. Hope you guys could enjoy it, it's very amusing.
Hey guys, I have created the English subtitles for this short clip on SSL. Thankfully the director of S2SL uploaded the subtitle to the clip. Hope you guys could enjoy it, it's very amusing.
Hey guys, I have created the English subtitles for this short clip on SSL. Thankfully the director of S2SL uploaded the subtitle to the clip. Hope you guys could enjoy it, it's very amusing.
haha thanks for sharing thats some good first post on TL
Hey guys, I have created the English subtitles for this short clip on SSL. Thankfully the director of S2SL uploaded the subtitle to the clip. Hope you guys could enjoy it, it's very amusing.
I saw this video and I was really curious about what these guys had to say. Thanks for the subs!
EPT
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