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[S2SL] Ro16 Group D: D for Delicious - S3 2015

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[S2SL] Ro16 Group D: D for Delicious - S3 2015

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July 22nd, 2015 13:35 GMT
2014 WCS

SBENU SC2 Starleague 2015 Season 3



S2SL Main event
D for Delicious
Stats, ByuL, Maru, Zest

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D for Delicious

Thursday, Jul 23 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

It's a perplexing feeling. On the one hand, we want to see the best players play against each other day in, day out. On the other hand, we don't want potential contenders knocked out early due to an unfortunate bracket or group. Our desire to see the best matches possible at every turn conflicts with our desire to see them at later stages of the competition. Yet, every time we get a crazy group like this, we don't really mind.

To be fair, the Ro16 Main Event of SSL has consistently given us one or two groups that make us question the sanity of group selections. Yes, seeing 4 amazing players slug it out for two precious spots is enticing, but do we really want to see someone like HyuN or Rogue or MyuNgSik stumble into the Ro8 ahead of two of Stats, ByuL, Maru or Zest? It's a tough choice, but it is what it is.

While it's a tight race between this group and Group C for the toughest one of the round, Group D has the advantage of having more interesting personal matchups. The various combinations of potential matches are all equally interesting, which could result in one of the most delicious groups in history. Everyone already knows all of these players and what each has done throughout the year. We get to talk about them at length almost every season, and no introduction is necessary. So, instead of talking about them agaaaaiiin, let us rank each matchup on potential awesomeness, instead.

#1: (T)Maru vs (P)Zest

This has quietly become one of the best rivalries in history. Though they have never played in stakes higher than a group stage, the two players routinely top their respective races in this relevant matchup. The games they play against each other often end up among the best games of the year, and fans salivate in anticipation whenever their names are written across each other on brackets. However, the tie isn't quite as close as you'd expect: Maru owns the lead at 12-6 in games, 9-3 in series. Even at the height of Zest's powers he was unable to consistently top the mighty Maru, but the games have always been close. Expect another classic series, because this match is definitely happening.

#2: (Z)ByuL vs (T)Maru

Just when you think Maru's at the top of the world, ByuL figures him out and chops him down over two games in Proleague. ByuL has always been a clever player, and his ploys have allowed him to be one of the few zergs to have a game and series lead over the Jin Air Terran (11-9 and 6-5 respectively). Even though there are sections out there that still consider ByuL too gimmicky to be a champion, his consistency over the years in Proleague is testament to his stability. Even if ByuL decides to play the long game, he has what it takes to break Maru's never ending wave of attacks. Expect this to be a subtle strategic battle.

#3. (P)Stats vs (T)Maru

Even though some consider this "Maru vs Zest"-lite, there is one thing that could make this matchup even better: the fact that it's much, much closer. Maru leads with a 10-8 record in games and 6-3 in series, suggesting it's a far more evenly matched affair. The series will likely come down to what Stats has in store. Maru will obviously pound the protoss with everything he's got, a systematic dismemberment that every protoss has suffered. However, Stats can channel the spirit of PartinG and punish Maru in the midgame before the Jin Air Terran can set foot outside of his base. Even though the KT Protoss has lost 3 straight against Maru, a good game plan could make this interesting.

#4. (P)Stats vs (P)Zest

You know a matchup has developed leaps and bounds when players begin to develop "personalities" in the way they play it. Stats and Zest are both very good PvP players, but they have very different approaches to the mirror. Zest is often considered the best PvP player in the world, and rightly so. He prefers leaning back on his late game and his decision making, and he is nearly impenetrable in the mid-game due to his top of the class positioning. Stats on the other hand is more aggressive and continues to believe in the randomness of PvP. As his popular quote states, "Sometimes in PvP, you just have to cross your fingers and pray you win the fight." He is a man that takes risks that many others would not, and at his best he can be unplayable. Sometimes, however, he chooses the wrong side of the coin. Add in the team kill factor, and this could get weird.

#5. (P)Stats vs (Z)ByuL

Of all the championship contenders in Korea, Stats and ByuL are among the biggest gamblers in their respective races. While this sounds like a veiled insult, the only reason they can gamble so often is because their opponents fear their standard games. Their propensity for well executed cheese keeps their opponents on their toes, and they are very good at playing out series when they are allowed to stay comfortable. This could end up one of the nuttier games of the evening, but it could also be one of the more unique.

#6. (Z)ByuL vs (P)Zest

This last match may not have much history or interesting aspects on paper, but it does pit two very strategically oriented players against each other. ByuL is the type of player that excels when he's allowed to gamble in ZvP, while Zest is at his best when he can scout gambles and react to them perfectly. On the one hand ByuL just might play into Zest's hands with his dastardly deeds, but as we saw in ByuL vs sOs, the CJ Zerg is perfectly capable of figuring out late game ZvP when he has to.

Predictions:

To be honest, who knows what's going to happen. All I know is we'd better get some amazing games if two of these players have to get knocked out.

Stats < ByuL
Maru > Zest
ByuL > Maru
Stats < Zest
Maru > Zest

(Z)ByuL and (T)Maru to advance to the Ro8.

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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 22 2015 13:38 GMT
#2
Zest and Stats to advance. Calling it now.

I wouldn't mind seeing ByuL and Maru either. Honestly it can swing in a whole bunch of different directions.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 22 2015 13:39 GMT
#3
Maru and Zest, Byul with the last place
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 13:47:37
July 22 2015 13:43 GMT
#4
On July 22 2015 22:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Maru and Zest, Byul with the last place

I'd be down with that.

Fact I pointed out during the last Proleague series: Stats PvP winrate has dropped by over 20% (67% to 45%; including a 1-3 to Zest) since his loss to Classic, so I don't expect him to beat Zest if that match happens. Then again Stats has another S2SL semifinal to reach.

And technically it's not Group D, it's Group Stats (I guess because they realised that playing D and C first every time is weird).
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 22 2015 13:46 GMT
#5
the group pretty much depends on what happens in the first set, anyone can get out
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 22 2015 13:48 GMT
#6
What a sick group! I'm already feeling the pain of my dear KT Protosses!

On July 22 2015 22:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Maru and Zest, Byul with the last place


This.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 22 2015 13:56 GMT
#7
Lol anyone who thinks this won't be Zest first and ByuL second is more delusional than the average Prime fan
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 22 2015 13:58 GMT
#8
CJ is kinda like the second PRIME these days, so i dunno
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EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
July 22 2015 13:59 GMT
#9
Indeed a tough group. One S class player in Maru, two S- players in Zest and Byul, plus a dangerous A+ protoss in Stats who's bordering the S rank anyway.

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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 22 2015 14:00 GMT
#10
I dunno mate, looking at the PL rankings KT is closer to Prime for sure. Maybe SackOfDumbShit was right?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
July 22 2015 14:04 GMT
#11
On July 22 2015 23:00 OtherWorld wrote:
I dunno mate, looking at the PL rankings KT is closer to Prime for sure. Maybe SackOfDumbShit was right?

Jin Air got 3-0'd by Samsung and their ace player is Maru, Jin Air is literally Prime.
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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
July 22 2015 14:04 GMT
#12
If Zest AND Stats get eliminated i will riot
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 14:07:07
July 22 2015 14:06 GMT
#13
On July 22 2015 23:04 BlackCompany wrote:
If Zest AND Stats get eliminated i will riot

Stats picked ByuL who picked Maru (who didn't have a choice because nobody else wanted Zest). So if that happens fly to Korea and tell Stats to take HyuN or Rogue next time travel back in time to pick someone else.
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kchany2
Profile Joined May 2015
Korea (South)5 Posts
July 22 2015 14:18 GMT
#14
Why do u foreigners ignore the fact that jest and stats got pounded by maru during entire season??
Even jest and stats themselves fear maru and that's perfectly well known among korean fans. Interesting to see that foreigners don't care about that.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 22 2015 14:21 GMT
#15
On July 22 2015 23:18 kchany2 wrote:
Why do u foreigners ignore the fact that jest and stats got pounded by maru during entire season??
Even jest and stats themselves fear maru and that's perfectly well known among korean fans. Interesting to see that foreigners don't care about that.


pretty sure most sane people think maru > stats
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
July 22 2015 14:40 GMT
#16
Maru and Zest make it.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
July 22 2015 14:46 GMT
#17
Maru is lucky he's not playing ByuL in G1, otherwise he'd be much less likely to make it out. I think he'll beat both tosses to go through here
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bestviva
Profile Joined July 2015
148 Posts
July 22 2015 14:50 GMT
#18
On July 22 2015 23:18 kchany2 wrote:
Why do u foreigners ignore the fact that jest and stats got pounded by maru during entire season??
Even jest and stats themselves fear maru and that's perfectly well known among korean fans. Interesting to see that foreigners don't care about that.

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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
July 22 2015 15:19 GMT
#19
Expecting Stats/Zest. GL boys. One two punch Maru tonight.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 22 2015 15:24 GMT
#20
On July 22 2015 23:18 kchany2 wrote:
Why do u foreigners ignore the fact that jest and stats got pounded by maru during entire season??
Even jest and stats themselves fear maru and that's perfectly well known among korean fans. Interesting to see that foreigners don't care about that.

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