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On April 10 2015 21:41 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 21:31 showstealer1829 wrote:On April 10 2015 21:28 Musicus wrote:On April 10 2015 21:21 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 10 2015 21:20 Big J wrote:On April 10 2015 21:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 10 2015 21:11 Alchemik wrote:On April 10 2015 21:10 Musicus wrote:
Damn TB knows how to bait on twitter, sc2 pros getting mad.
And Flash is dead on this map I guess :/. well, TB did act dumb here If by dumb you mean, baited out a couple of entitled mid-tier foreigners, sure. They really should be grateful. WCS Worlds is welfare in its current state, it's money none of them would be able to earn legitimately if they had to compete with the Koreans and yet they still have the gall to bitch? Yeah ok sure."Hey I was on Skype with friends playing LOTV so that's why I lost to Winter". Yeah? My guys were practicing, just like the rest of the Koreans, while you were fucking around with your friends on Skype and losing to a guy that beats up gold leaguers for a living, maybe that's why you can't compete with Koreans, Mr "Africa doesn't have computers" Morrow :x oh come on. GSL and S2SL have their own form of region lock by making it offline monthlong. If it was a weekend tournament with the qualifiers being held online, maybe even on alternating servers, we'd be seeing foreigners trying too. Not that they'd be winning a lot, but calling WCS welfare because there are certain rules to make it impossible that you can just play the one WCS-tournament for the rest of the world if you don't feel like playing the two Korean-specific alternatives is quite pushing it. "foreigners trying" and not getting past the qualifying stage yes. Every week there are qualifiers harder than WCS Worlds for events like IEM. Worlds is Welfare. But isn't the welfare needed? WCS S1 is was a great success and the foreign scene needed that I think. Koreans can still compete there if they live and practice there, which seems fair compared to flying in and out. If Korea's football league wanted to improve, flying German and Spain teams in and out wouldn't really help. If the teams moved there and were available for practice matches all year long that's a different matter though. I think the semi region lock works out really good so far for WCS and seems fair. Korea has double leagues and SPL now, over all the tournament scene seems globally very balanced to me. Eeverything besides WCS Premiere is completely open, only this one tournament has a soft region lock. For all the talk of how WCS is supposed to be helping the foreign scene it was STILL two Koreans in the final. If anything I'd argue that just set the scene 3 steps backwards But those to Koreans at least live in the region they compete and they didn't even need a translator. It was very easy for new viewers to relate to them and cheer for them, since they saw them competing against the best foreigners all weekend long. Completely different to seeing 16 koreans compete against each other and at the end 2 of them are in the final and they all talk korean and you can't really relate as a new viewer (I personally and most hardcore fans would not mind).
They saw them 3:0ing all the best foreigners you mean 
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Flash takes it!
Baddddd decision making from Super.
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Flash hype!!! New banjo!!!
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Well that was a fucking weird game lol
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YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS High five Flash fans
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HAHA the casters trolling.
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On April 10 2015 21:42 TheDwf wrote:
Argh, maybe I spoke too early
or not...
awesome having flash in code S!
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On April 10 2015 21:44 lastride wrote:
YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS High five Flash fans
I'll high five you when he makes it to the Ro8.
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On April 10 2015 21:45 Inflicted wrote:
GumBa mia
Ai CarGumBa
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FanTaSy shall complete the Terran ranks. I wouldn't be against a Code S apparition for Mr. BrAvO but I sense Curious will stomp him
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Funny race distribution compared to SSL.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Poll: Super vs Flash Game 3★★★ - Good game (8) 73% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1) 9% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1) 9% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1) 9% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Super vs Flash Game 3 (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Super vs Flash Game 4★★★ - Good game (5) 63% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2) 25% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1) 13% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Super vs Flash Game 4 (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Super vs Flash Game 5★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 43% ★★★ - Good game (2) 29% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1) 14% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Super vs Flash Game 5 (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
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On April 10 2015 21:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 21:41 Musicus wrote:On April 10 2015 21:31 showstealer1829 wrote:On April 10 2015 21:28 Musicus wrote:On April 10 2015 21:21 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 10 2015 21:20 Big J wrote:On April 10 2015 21:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 10 2015 21:11 Alchemik wrote:well, TB did act dumb here If by dumb you mean, baited out a couple of entitled mid-tier foreigners, sure. They really should be grateful. WCS Worlds is welfare in its current state, it's money none of them would be able to earn legitimately if they had to compete with the Koreans and yet they still have the gall to bitch? Yeah ok sure."Hey I was on Skype with friends playing LOTV so that's why I lost to Winter". Yeah? My guys were practicing, just like the rest of the Koreans, while you were fucking around with your friends on Skype and losing to a guy that beats up gold leaguers for a living, maybe that's why you can't compete with Koreans, Mr "Africa doesn't have computers" Morrow :x oh come on. GSL and S2SL have their own form of region lock by making it offline monthlong. If it was a weekend tournament with the qualifiers being held online, maybe even on alternating servers, we'd be seeing foreigners trying too. Not that they'd be winning a lot, but calling WCS welfare because there are certain rules to make it impossible that you can just play the one WCS-tournament for the rest of the world if you don't feel like playing the two Korean-specific alternatives is quite pushing it. "foreigners trying" and not getting past the qualifying stage yes. Every week there are qualifiers harder than WCS Worlds for events like IEM. Worlds is Welfare. But isn't the welfare needed? WCS S1 is was a great success and the foreign scene needed that I think. Koreans can still compete there if they live and practice there, which seems fair compared to flying in and out. If Korea's football league wanted to improve, flying German and Spain teams in and out wouldn't really help. If the teams moved there and were available for practice matches all year long that's a different matter though. I think the semi region lock works out really good so far for WCS and seems fair. Korea has double leagues and SPL now, over all the tournament scene seems globally very balanced to me. Eeverything besides WCS Premiere is completely open, only this one tournament has a soft region lock. For all the talk of how WCS is supposed to be helping the foreign scene it was STILL two Koreans in the final. If anything I'd argue that just set the scene 3 steps backwards But those to Koreans at least live in the region they compete and they didn't even need a translator. It was very easy for new viewers to relate to them and cheer for them, since they saw them competing against the best foreigners all weekend long. Completely different to seeing 16 koreans compete against each other and at the end 2 of them are in the final and they all talk korean and you can't really relate as a new viewer (I personally and most hardcore fans would not mind). They saw them 3:0ing all the best foreigners you mean
Heh, fair enough, but let's see if Bunny/Snute/Showtime etc can step it up over the year  . Bunny vs Polt was really freaking close. I would not be surprised if they could eliminate the odd Korean next season, still expecting a Korean final  .
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On April 10 2015 21:21 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 21:20 Big J wrote:On April 10 2015 21:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 10 2015 21:11 Alchemik wrote:well, TB did act dumb here If by dumb you mean, baited out a couple of entitled mid-tier foreigners, sure. They really should be grateful. WCS Worlds is welfare in its current state, it's money none of them would be able to earn legitimately if they had to compete with the Koreans and yet they still have the gall to bitch? Yeah ok sure."Hey I was on Skype with friends playing LOTV so that's why I lost to Winter". Yeah? My guys were practicing, just like the rest of the Koreans, while you were fucking around with your friends on Skype and losing to a guy that beats up gold leaguers for a living, maybe that's why you can't compete with Koreans, Mr "Africa doesn't have computers" Morrow :x oh come on. GSL and S2SL have their own form of region lock by making it offline monthlong. If it was a weekend tournament with the qualifiers being held online, maybe even on alternating servers, we'd be seeing foreigners trying too. Not that they'd be winning a lot, but calling WCS welfare because there are certain rules to make it impossible that you can just play the one WCS-tournament for the rest of the world if you don't feel like playing the two Korean-specific alternatives is quite pushing it. "foreigners trying" and not getting past the qualifying stage yes. Every week there are qualifiers harder than WCS Worlds for events like IEM. Worlds is Welfare.
I didn't look at the viewership numbers but I am pretty sure they are at least similar to the Korean Leagues so it's not Welfare it's what a considerable amount of viewers want to watch. Stop being so salty about signing mediocre Korean players that can't make it in Korean leagues.
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Ahh . . . hahaha the 3-0 Super Own Flash Prediction ~
But , ah....scare the hell out of me . Flash game is so worrying. I keep pray for Opponent to mess up for Flash to win .
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On April 10 2015 21:41 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 21:31 showstealer1829 wrote:On April 10 2015 21:28 Musicus wrote:On April 10 2015 21:21 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 10 2015 21:20 Big J wrote:On April 10 2015 21:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 10 2015 21:11 Alchemik wrote:well, TB did act dumb here If by dumb you mean, baited out a couple of entitled mid-tier foreigners, sure. They really should be grateful. WCS Worlds is welfare in its current state, it's money none of them would be able to earn legitimately if they had to compete with the Koreans and yet they still have the gall to bitch? Yeah ok sure."Hey I was on Skype with friends playing LOTV so that's why I lost to Winter". Yeah? My guys were practicing, just like the rest of the Koreans, while you were fucking around with your friends on Skype and losing to a guy that beats up gold leaguers for a living, maybe that's why you can't compete with Koreans, Mr "Africa doesn't have computers" Morrow :x oh come on. GSL and S2SL have their own form of region lock by making it offline monthlong. If it was a weekend tournament with the qualifiers being held online, maybe even on alternating servers, we'd be seeing foreigners trying too. Not that they'd be winning a lot, but calling WCS welfare because there are certain rules to make it impossible that you can just play the one WCS-tournament for the rest of the world if you don't feel like playing the two Korean-specific alternatives is quite pushing it. "foreigners trying" and not getting past the qualifying stage yes. Every week there are qualifiers harder than WCS Worlds for events like IEM. Worlds is Welfare. But isn't the welfare needed? WCS S1 is was a great success and the foreign scene needed that I think. Koreans can still compete there if they live and practice there, which seems fair compared to flying in and out. If Korea's football league wanted to improve, flying German and Spain teams in and out wouldn't really help. If the teams moved there and were available for practice matches all year long that's a different matter though. I think the semi region lock works out really good so far for WCS and seems fair. Korea has double leagues and SPL now, over all the tournament scene seems globally very balanced to me. Eeverything besides WCS Premiere is completely open, only this one tournament has a soft region lock. For all the talk of how WCS is supposed to be helping the foreign scene it was STILL two Koreans in the final. If anything I'd argue that just set the scene 3 steps backwards But those to Koreans at least live in the region they compete and they didn't even need a translator. It was very easy for new viewers to relate to them and cheer for them, since they saw them competing against the best foreigners all weekend long. Completely different to seeing 16 koreans compete against each other and at the end 2 of them are in the final and they all talk korean and you can't really relate as a new viewer (I personally and most hardcore fans would not mind). Having a few Koreans spiced the league up just right imo. It even helps the foreign scene improve, since they can prepare against the Koreans and compete against them all year long, instead of getting surprised by people that just flew in.
But it didn't improve the scene. There were only 3 Koreans in WCS in Season 1 and 3 of them made the final 4. Almost every map the foreigner came up against the Korean the foreigner got curbstomped.
If something changes in Season 2 I'll be the first to admit it but frankly seeing what I saw in the playoffs I'm not going to be shocked if we're back to Korean All Kill in the semis again this coming season at which point it achieves nothing, because the same naturalised Koreans are winning over and over and over and the foreign scene takes one giant leap backwards
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