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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
March 12 2015 16:29 GMT
#2141
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Haha you are awesome!
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 12 2015 16:29 GMT
#2142
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Why is it easier to recover in a series (not individual games) when it's ZvZ?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 12 2015 16:30 GMT
#2143
On March 13 2015 01:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Why is it easier to recover in a series (not individual games) when it's ZvZ?

coinflippiest mirror
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 12 2015 16:30 GMT
#2144
Okay no Zerg cheese on the horizon for now
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 12 2015 16:30 GMT
#2145
On March 13 2015 01:29 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:25 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:07 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:01 Aeromi wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:00 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Nah, that was just a huge throw from Hydra. Lost all of his swarm hosts twice, and took the worst engagement there with his hydras/swarm hosts before his vipers arrived.

Zest was playing poorly, was losing blink stalkers to straight up lings all game. Big throw by Hydra.

You hate Zest, right ?

No, not at all. I just think he's extremely overhyped and isn't as good as the KT Rolster fanboys think. I'm impressed when someone like Maru, when his race is weak, consistently makes runs in GSL/still has success. I'm not impressed when someone like Zest, right after his race is buffed in a patch, suddenly has individual success, then drops off to Code B level when their race is no longer overpowered.

I don't hate any player.


What patch are you talking about?

These two:

[image loading]


And what patches took place there?

Do you not know? It's pretty easy to look them up on liquipedia.


I see how it is. That overseer speed patch sure helped Zest's winrate.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
March 12 2015 16:30 GMT
#2146
On March 13 2015 01:21 Ej_ wrote:
here comes the sentry drop


With a probe, building Cannons. That was funny. :D
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 12 2015 16:30 GMT
#2147
On March 13 2015 01:30 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:29 The_Templar wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Why is it easier to recover in a series (not individual games) when it's ZvZ?

coinflippiest mirror

Surely you mean most skill-based MU. Roaches don't lie about their user's skill.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 12 2015 16:30 GMT
#2148
On March 13 2015 01:30 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:29 The_Templar wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Why is it easier to recover in a series (not individual games) when it's ZvZ?

coinflippiest mirror

literally the opposite
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 12 2015 16:31 GMT
#2149
On March 13 2015 01:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:29 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:25 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:07 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:01 Aeromi wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:00 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Nah, that was just a huge throw from Hydra. Lost all of his swarm hosts twice, and took the worst engagement there with his hydras/swarm hosts before his vipers arrived.

Zest was playing poorly, was losing blink stalkers to straight up lings all game. Big throw by Hydra.

You hate Zest, right ?

No, not at all. I just think he's extremely overhyped and isn't as good as the KT Rolster fanboys think. I'm impressed when someone like Maru, when his race is weak, consistently makes runs in GSL/still has success. I'm not impressed when someone like Zest, right after his race is buffed in a patch, suddenly has individual success, then drops off to Code B level when their race is no longer overpowered.

I don't hate any player.


What patch are you talking about?

These two:

[image loading]


And what patches took place there?

Do you not know? It's pretty easy to look them up on liquipedia.


I see how it is. That overseer speed patch sure helped Zest's winrate.

well it actually helped in reducing Terran numbers which proves Sack right...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 12 2015 16:31 GMT
#2150
On March 13 2015 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:25 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:07 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:01 Aeromi wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:00 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Nah, that was just a huge throw from Hydra. Lost all of his swarm hosts twice, and took the worst engagement there with his hydras/swarm hosts before his vipers arrived.

Zest was playing poorly, was losing blink stalkers to straight up lings all game. Big throw by Hydra.

You hate Zest, right ?

No, not at all. I just think he's extremely overhyped and isn't as good as the KT Rolster fanboys think. I'm impressed when someone like Maru, when his race is weak, consistently makes runs in GSL/still has success. I'm not impressed when someone like Zest, right after his race is buffed in a patch, suddenly has individual success, then drops off to Code B level when their race is no longer overpowered.

I don't hate any player.


What patch are you talking about?

These two:

[image loading]


And what patches took place there?

During that time the oracle was buffed and in February/March the mothership core was nerfed. That's all.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 12 2015 16:31 GMT
#2151
On March 13 2015 01:30 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:29 The_Templar wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Why is it easier to recover in a series (not individual games) when it's ZvZ?

coinflippiest mirror

literally the opposite

I'm just trying to have swag bro's back since no one else ever does
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TL+ Member
Video2000
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark517 Posts
March 12 2015 16:31 GMT
#2152
These days TvT seems like the coinflippiest to me...? A lot of build order wins and so on. Maybe it's just because i don't enjoy it as much
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 12 2015 16:31 GMT
#2153
On March 13 2015 01:30 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:29 The_Templar wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Why is it easier to recover in a series (not individual games) when it's ZvZ?

coinflippiest mirror

Surely you mean most skill-based MU. Roaches don't lie about their user's skill.

Literally the best matchup
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
March 12 2015 16:31 GMT
#2154
On March 13 2015 01:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Why is it easier to recover in a series (not individual games) when it's ZvZ?


Mirror matches are easier to come back from because if a player just kills some workers, he is ahead. Think about it, Life is down 3 games, then readjusted his builds and killed a few workers early in the next 4 games. Against Protoss or Terran, killing those few workers is negligible because of chrono and mules. In mirror matches, two good players mirror each other, but with a few workers missing, that player is behind.
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 12 2015 16:31 GMT
#2155
On March 13 2015 01:31 Video2000 wrote:
These days TvT seems like the coinflippiest to me...? A lot of build order wins and so on. Maybe it's just because i don't enjoy it as much

same. I really dont like the current TvT style
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 12 2015 16:32 GMT
#2156
On March 13 2015 01:31 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:30 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:29 The_Templar wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Why is it easier to recover in a series (not individual games) when it's ZvZ?

coinflippiest mirror

literally the opposite

I'm just trying to have swag bro's back since no one else ever does

isn't that the beauty of it all?
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
March 12 2015 16:32 GMT
#2157
Jesus Zest don't do that to me.
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
March 12 2015 16:32 GMT
#2158
On March 13 2015 01:31 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:31 Video2000 wrote:
These days TvT seems like the coinflippiest to me...? A lot of build order wins and so on. Maybe it's just because i don't enjoy it as much

same. I really dont like the current TvT style

Agree, some games are good but most are kinda disappointing.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 16:33:46
March 12 2015 16:33 GMT
#2159
Zest going multiple techs on two bases again -_-
Oh, he took his third. OK.
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TL+ Member
Video2000
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark517 Posts
March 12 2015 16:33 GMT
#2160
On March 13 2015 01:32 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:31 Shellshock wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:31 Video2000 wrote:
These days TvT seems like the coinflippiest to me...? A lot of build order wins and so on. Maybe it's just because i don't enjoy it as much

same. I really dont like the current TvT style

Agree, some games are good but most are kinda disappointing.


But maybe Fanta v Flash can define a new glorious TvT meta to last until LOTV
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