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swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
March 12 2015 16:33 GMT
#2161
On March 13 2015 01:32 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:31 Shellshock wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:31 Video2000 wrote:
These days TvT seems like the coinflippiest to me...? A lot of build order wins and so on. Maybe it's just because i don't enjoy it as much

same. I really dont like the current TvT style

Agree, some games are good but most are kinda disappointing.


Then I recommend you go watch Innnovation vs Taeja at Blizzcon 2013.
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 12 2015 16:34 GMT
#2162
On Catallena and at equal supplies at 10:00, Zest shouldn't lose this now, unless hydra plays godly or Zest terribly.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 12 2015 16:34 GMT
#2163
That's a strange gateway wall.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 12 2015 16:34 GMT
#2164
On March 13 2015 01:34 OtherWorld wrote:
On Catallena and at equal supplies at 10:00, Zest shouldn't lose this now, unless hydra plays godly or Zest terribly.

They'll probably both play poorly <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
March 12 2015 16:35 GMT
#2165
On March 13 2015 01:31 swag_bro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:29 The_Templar wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Why is it easier to recover in a series (not individual games) when it's ZvZ?


Mirror matches are easier to come back from because if a player just kills some workers, he is ahead. Think about it, Life is down 3 games, then readjusted his builds and killed a few workers early in the next 4 games. Against Protoss or Terran, killing those few workers is negligible because of chrono and mules. In mirror matches, two good players mirror each other, but with a few workers missing, that player is behind.


Fortunately, Soulkey did the same in a ZvT, Innovation went down 0-2 to win 4-2 in his last finals, even Naniwa 3-2'd HyuN after being down 0-2. It happens all the time in all match-ups.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 12 2015 16:35 GMT
#2166
On March 13 2015 01:34 OtherWorld wrote:
On Catallena and at equal supplies at 10:00, Zest shouldn't lose this now, unless hydra plays godly or Zest terribly.

Supply is now 154 to 105. What happened?
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TL+ Member
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 12 2015 16:35 GMT
#2167
lets see how good forcefields are now
rip passion
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
March 12 2015 16:35 GMT
#2168
Looks like Zest is dead
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 12 2015 16:36 GMT
#2169
On March 13 2015 01:35 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:34 OtherWorld wrote:
On Catallena and at equal supplies at 10:00, Zest shouldn't lose this now, unless hydra plays godly or Zest terribly.

Supply is now 154 to 105. What happened?

Standard Zerg production. Now what the magic of Catallena.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 12 2015 16:36 GMT
#2170
On March 13 2015 01:35 Neemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:31 swag_bro wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:29 The_Templar wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:28 swag_bro wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:27 Alchemik wrote:
On March 13 2015 01:26 swag_bro wrote:
Zest gonna do the impossible. Come back in against a 0-2 deficit.

literally impossible
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II


That is in Wings of Liberty, a complete different game. Also, that was a ZvZ. ZvZ's are the easiest the come back from.

Why is it easier to recover in a series (not individual games) when it's ZvZ?


Mirror matches are easier to come back from because if a player just kills some workers, he is ahead. Think about it, Life is down 3 games, then readjusted his builds and killed a few workers early in the next 4 games. Against Protoss or Terran, killing those few workers is negligible because of chrono and mules. In mirror matches, two good players mirror each other, but with a few workers missing, that player is behind.


Fortunately, Soulkey did the same in a ZvT, Innovation went down 0-2 to win 4-2 in his last finals, even Naniwa 3-2'd HyuN after being down 0-2. It happens all the time in all match-ups.

How dare you challenge swag_bro's authority?? He is of course right.
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TL+ Member
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 12 2015 16:36 GMT
#2171
On March 13 2015 01:35 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 01:34 OtherWorld wrote:
On Catallena and at equal supplies at 10:00, Zest shouldn't lose this now, unless hydra plays godly or Zest terribly.

Supply is now 154 to 105. What happened?

Hydra has 10x the macro Zest has
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 12 2015 16:37 GMT
#2172
Hydra the god
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 12 2015 16:37 GMT
#2173
Looks like Zest will hold, but only barely.
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TL+ Member
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 12 2015 16:37 GMT
#2174
good riddance

go home zest. spend some time reflecting
rip passion
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
March 12 2015 16:37 GMT
#2175
This defense is damn godlike.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 12 2015 16:37 GMT
#2176
Hydra please win!!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 12 2015 16:37 GMT
#2177
Damn, not enough forcefields to hold the RH army away
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45047 Posts
March 12 2015 16:37 GMT
#2178
Surprised Zest held that, although it looks like Hydra's gonna run away with it now.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
March 12 2015 16:38 GMT
#2179
THE HOLD!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 12 2015 16:38 GMT
#2180
On March 13 2015 01:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Surprised Zest held that, although it looks like Hydra's gonna run away with it now.

never underestimate Catallena
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