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On March 05 2015 20:22 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 20:20 Big J wrote:On March 05 2015 20:17 Rainfall7711 wrote:On March 05 2015 20:13 Alchemik wrote:On March 05 2015 20:12 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Well this is probably over. You wonder why Protoss players do this gimmicky shit but then realise Protoss just won't consistently win vs Terran in a straight up game. and then you realize you're wrong Not at all. The evidence is there for all to see actually. "The evidence": Stats cheeses 4 times: loses 3 and wins 1 Stats plays straight up macro two times: loses 1, wins 1 And the macro game he lost he had a major disadvantage with the 22 probe helion runby. Stats should have stuck to macro games as he would fared better in the late game. Not to take anything away from Maru who thrives in these situations and just pulls opponents apart.
You cannot go macro games in PvT on maps like Foxtrot, KSS or Catallena against a dropping Terran, he will dismantle you once you try to take 3rd.
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On March 05 2015 20:20 Mikau wrote:
So, how dó you hold a 3rd on this map?
Play better than your opponent.
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Woah, Sojung looks really pretty today.
Not to say she's not always cute, but she looked really good in that short camera shot where she was sitting behind Wolf and Moonglade. Anyone else think the same?
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so is Wolf still dating Sojung?
also i'm actually more hyped for Life vs Dream, should be a lot of action in that one 
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On March 05 2015 20:24 Schelim wrote:so is Wolf still dating Sojung? also i'm actually more hyped for Life vs Dream, should be a lot of action in that one
Were they ever actually dating? It was always obvious that Wolf had a crush on Sojung, but didn't know that they dated. And Sojung has always been in love with TY, anyway. Can someone confirm that Wolf actually dated Sojung?
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On March 05 2015 20:23 iMrising wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 20:21 deacon.frost wrote:On March 05 2015 20:20 Mikau wrote:
So, how dó you hold a 3rd on this map? You don't, it's the same as, for example, Catallena. or inferno pools. or secret spring. but to be fair, stats was behind from after losing 3 dts while doing no damage. Its too bad he chose to do such plays because he really played well in game 1.
Yes, he was behind, I cannot say anything against it. As he was furiously behind on Catallena because of the scouted DT rush. Both games were lost because of the Maru preparation/scouting than map layout or some imbalance in game.
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On March 05 2015 20:24 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 20:22 dazed25 wrote:On March 05 2015 20:20 Big J wrote:On March 05 2015 20:17 Rainfall7711 wrote:On March 05 2015 20:13 Alchemik wrote:On March 05 2015 20:12 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Well this is probably over. You wonder why Protoss players do this gimmicky shit but then realise Protoss just won't consistently win vs Terran in a straight up game. and then you realize you're wrong Not at all. The evidence is there for all to see actually. "The evidence": Stats cheeses 4 times: loses 3 and wins 1 Stats plays straight up macro two times: loses 1, wins 1 And the macro game he lost he had a major disadvantage with the 22 probe helion runby. Stats should have stuck to macro games as he would fared better in the late game. Not to take anything away from Maru who thrives in these situations and just pulls opponents apart. You cannot go macro games in PvT on maps like Foxtrot, KSS or Catallena against a dropping Terran, he will dismantle you once you try to take 3rd.
Just play Phoenix.
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It's so funny how Protoss players blame the balance, while it is obvious that Maru has superior multitasking skills than Stats or almost any other Korean Protoss out there. That's why he won.
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Life's gonna demolish him anyway...
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On March 05 2015 20:24 Schelim wrote:so is Wolf still dating Sojung? also i'm actually more hyped for Life vs Dream, should be a lot of action in that one
didn't she say she never hung out with any of the casters outside the studio
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What is this Korean HoMM?
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i do 100% agree with gora kasul; PvT is a Fairly problematic match up and this is a Perfect exemple of why; in frontal FighT there is almost no Way than a terran player wiNs with eQual pop and good gestion from the Protoss, in the other hand that last game showed How abusive some situations/ maps can be and i rather think there is no way to hold such an assault in the map like that
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On March 05 2015 20:26 TurboMaN wrote:
It's so funny how Protoss players blame the balance, while it is obvious that Maru has superior multitasking skills than Stats or almost any other Korean Protoss out there. That's why he won.
Yeah protoss, just triple WP harrass all the Terran's bases at once while pressuring the front. ezpz
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On March 05 2015 20:27 bestiszest wrote:
i do 100% agree with gora kasul; PvT is a Fairly problematic match up and this is a Perfect exemple of why; in frontal FighT there is almost no Way than a terran player wiNs with eQual pop and good gestion from the Protoss, in the other hand that last game showed How abusive some situations/ maps can be and i rather think there is no way to hold such an assault in the map like that
after the DT allin the game was over, I have no clue what else you are talking about. The game ended then and there. Stats just didn't leave but that doesn't mean the game went on. That just means Maru got to have some fun.
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On March 05 2015 20:24 ZAiNs wrote:Play better than your opponent.
This is exactly why those maplayouts and/or the current meta is so hostile against Protoss: Even if you are better than your opponent you will lose against those rotating drops when you are on 3 bases.
It simply is not possible due to speedvacs. Do defend all 3 positions the Protoss needs 3 seperate small armies. To drop all 3 locations the Terran needs a small and a medium sized army. A medium sizes Terran army will absolutely wipe the floor with a small Protoss army due to Protoss having to rely on army synergy and composition to be cost effective - which is not possible with very few units and/or heavy tech upgrades.
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On March 05 2015 20:27 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Life's gonna demolish him anyway...
Let's wait until the series is over.
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On March 05 2015 20:27 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 20:24 Schelim wrote:so is Wolf still dating Sojung? also i'm actually more hyped for Life vs Dream, should be a lot of action in that one didn't she say she never hung out with any of the casters outside the studio
oh. i was under the impression they were dating. guess he just had a crush on her and my mind invented the rest 
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On March 05 2015 20:26 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 20:24 deacon.frost wrote:On March 05 2015 20:22 dazed25 wrote:On March 05 2015 20:20 Big J wrote:On March 05 2015 20:17 Rainfall7711 wrote:On March 05 2015 20:13 Alchemik wrote:On March 05 2015 20:12 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Well this is probably over. You wonder why Protoss players do this gimmicky shit but then realise Protoss just won't consistently win vs Terran in a straight up game. and then you realize you're wrong Not at all. The evidence is there for all to see actually. "The evidence": Stats cheeses 4 times: loses 3 and wins 1 Stats plays straight up macro two times: loses 1, wins 1 And the macro game he lost he had a major disadvantage with the 22 probe helion runby. Stats should have stuck to macro games as he would fared better in the late game. Not to take anything away from Maru who thrives in these situations and just pulls opponents apart. You cannot go macro games in PvT on maps like Foxtrot, KSS or Catallena against a dropping Terran, he will dismantle you once you try to take 3rd. Just play Phoenix.
When there's only one way how to play the map then you are too much predictable and you will be hard countered by BO losses. Which is wrong both ways(PvT or TvP)
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On March 05 2015 20:28 GoraKasul wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 20:24 ZAiNs wrote:On March 05 2015 20:20 Mikau wrote:
So, how dó you hold a 3rd on this map? Play better than your opponent. This is exactly why those maplayouts and/or the current meta is so hostile against Protoss: Even if you are better than your opponent you will lose against those rotating drops when you are on 3 bases. It simply is not possible due to speedvacs. Do defend all 3 positions the Protoss needs 3 seperate small armies. To drop all 3 locations the Terran needs a small and a medium sized army. A medium sizes Terran army will absolutely wipe the floor with a small Protoss army due to Protoss having to rely on army synergy and composition to be cost effective - which is not possible with very few units and/or heavy tech upgrades.
Welcome to ZTarcraft II?
edit: Where is Downfall btw?
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@ turboman you need Superior multitasking to defend your 3 bases with slower units than terran's ones which moreover are pretty uneffectiv in small groups
not saying that maru didn't play well it was a great game from him but honneslty its too hard to defend it as P unless you have phoenixes which let you pretty behind in early
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