★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
45%
★★★- Good game (3)
27%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
27%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Journey vs YoDa?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
42%
★★★- Good game (4)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
19%
26 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hurricane vs TANGTANG?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
35%
★★★- Good game (2)
10%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
10%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Armani vs MyuNgSiK?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
23%
★★★- Good game (2)
9%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (11)
50%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
9%
22 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Shine vs Creator?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
7%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
21%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
This one will go to the ace match (YoDa and Myungsik win). So yeah Samsung 3 - 2 if Dear/Solar/etc are not in holidays, somewhere in a sunny place with Stork
On December 30 2014 00:58 Shellshock wrote: Journey < Yoda Hurricane > Tangtang Armani < Myungsik Shine > Creator
Stork > Yoda
Fully agree with your prediction, especially Creator needs to lose. If Stork wins the ace that would make my day, even if I don't have him on FPL (but lots of people have him on anti xD).
I thought January retired , but Samsung is still trolling in full force . Oh well who am i to complain i have Shine as he was the strongest 2 pointer on the point list . He will bring me some unexpected points here .
The only thing I can think of is that Samsung is trying to give some play time to non-core players and think they can win against Prime even with this lineup.
On December 30 2014 18:36 The_Templar wrote: By the way, does anyone know what TANGTANG looks like?
Like a god?
But what does a god look like? I know TANGTANG rivals the impossible bonjwa-like capabilities of Scoobers and zirk, but I need more of a description than that.
On December 30 2014 19:19 robson1 wrote: omg be more akward.
what do you want them to do, sit there and say nothing?
because that would be less akward. Srsly. Say what you want about tastosis they can fill up time so easily. Wolf and Brendan need to work on that. They even stopped their best routine, which was just analyzing glasses and hairstyles.
On December 30 2014 19:21 showstealer1829 wrote: Is it wrong that when he turns to the camera I can imagine Valdes getting a facial by a clown with that dot?
On December 30 2014 19:21 showstealer1829 wrote: Is it wrong that when he turns to the camera I can imagine Valdes getting a facial by a clown with that dot?
On December 30 2014 19:21 showstealer1829 wrote: Is it wrong that when he turns to the camera I can imagine Valdes getting a facial by a clown with that dot?
On December 30 2014 19:21 showstealer1829 wrote: Is it wrong that when he turns to the camera I can imagine Valdes getting a facial by a clown with that dot?
Don't let the others fool you, it sounds great. Just keep the positive vibes coming.
Journey spawns in the bottom right YoDa spawns in the top right
There was much early-game lag, but we are back!
2:00 Gas/barracks for YoDa. Journey getting a barracks and refinery. Factory for YoDa. Journey getting a reaper.
3:00 SCV scout for Journey. Journey expands. YoDa finishes his factory and starts a starport. Hellion for YoDa. Journey's reaper sees everything.
4:00 Factory starts for Journey. Medivac starts for YoDa. Reaper pokes back in. Widow mine for YoDa. YoDa moving out with some marines and a hellion.
5:00 YoDa going for a marine/mine drop while going towards Journey's base with a hellion. Journey sacrifices a reaper to use the mine of YoDa to splash some marines and he holds, although he loses a bit more. Cloaked banshee for YoDa.
Journey spawns in the bottom right YoDa spawns in the top right
There was much early-game lag, but we are back!
2:00 Gas/barracks for YoDa. Journey getting a barracks and refinery. Factory for YoDa. Journey getting a reaper.
3:00 SCV scout for Journey. Journey expands. YoDa finishes his factory and starts a starport. Hellion for YoDa. Journey's reaper sees everything.
4:00 Factory starts for Journey. Medivac starts for YoDa. Reaper pokes back in. Widow mine for YoDa. YoDa moving out with some marines and a hellion.
5:00 YoDa going for a marine/mine drop while going towards Journey's base with a hellion. Journey sacrifices a reaper to use the mine of YoDa to splash some marines and he holds, although he loses a bit more. Cloaked banshee for YoDa.
7:00 Journey 49 vs YoDa 47 Second and third CCs starting for YoDa. Raven for Journey. Second banshee on the way for YoDa. Journey has a viking out already. First banshee goes towards the natural, where there's a turret.
8:00 Journey 60 vs YoDa 57 Journey moves out with four hellions. Banshee harassing workers at the natural but it falls. Second banshee distracts Journey enough to allow a drop to kill 5 workers.
9:00 Journey 69 vs YoDa 71 Second banshee nabs a worker at the natural. Stim starts for YoDa. Journey floating some money.
10:00 Journey 76 vs YoDa 79 YoDa has two tanks out already as well. Third CC starts for Journey. Journey scans YoDa's main but misses the engineering bays (there are two). Journey getting his own 2nd engineering bay and +1 attack. YoDa getting +1/1.
On December 30 2014 19:21 showstealer1829 wrote: Is it wrong that when he turns to the camera I can imagine Valdes getting a facial by a clown with that dot?
You can only imagine that when there's a green dot on his face? Your imagination game is not on point today.
Journey spawns in the bottom right YoDa spawns in the top right
There was much early-game lag, but we are back!
2:00 Gas/barracks for YoDa. Journey getting a barracks and refinery. Factory for YoDa. Journey getting a reaper.
3:00 SCV scout for Journey. Journey expands. YoDa finishes his factory and starts a starport. Hellion for YoDa. Journey's reaper sees everything.
4:00 Factory starts for Journey. Medivac starts for YoDa. Reaper pokes back in. Widow mine for YoDa. YoDa moving out with some marines and a hellion.
5:00 YoDa going for a marine/mine drop while going towards Journey's base with a hellion. Journey sacrifices a reaper to use the mine of YoDa to splash some marines and he holds, although he loses a bit more. Cloaked banshee for YoDa.
7:00 Journey 49 vs YoDa 47 Second and third CCs starting for YoDa. Raven for Journey. Second banshee on the way for YoDa. Journey has a viking out already. First banshee goes towards the natural, where there's a turret.
8:00 Journey 60 vs YoDa 57 Journey moves out with four hellions. Banshee harassing workers at the natural but it falls. Second banshee distracts Journey enough to allow a drop to kill 5 workers.
9:00 Journey 69 vs YoDa 71 Second banshee nabs a worker at the natural. Stim starts for YoDa. Journey floating some money.
10:00 Journey 76 vs YoDa 79 YoDa has two tanks out already as well. Third CC starts for Journey. Journey scans YoDa's main but misses the engineering bays (there are two). Journey getting his own 2nd engineering bay and +1 attack. YoDa getting +1/1.
11:00 Journey 90 vs YoDa 104 YoDa lands his third CC. Journey's upgrades, including stim, are slightly behind. Armory for both players. YoDa has quite a few vikings with his army as well as a banshee. YoDa moving out.
13:00 Journey 118 vs YoDa 125 +2 attack and combat shields starts for YoDa. YoDa sieges pretty far away from Journey's third. Banshee starts attacking Journey's tank. Both players getting another factory and +1 mech attacks. YoDa carefully harassing tanks with his banshee, baiting marines to go into the tank fire of YoDa.
15:00 Journey 151 vs YoDa 177 YoDa unseiges and Journey goes for the opportunity to break the tank line but YoDa barely holds it. +2/2 is a bit ahead for YoDa. +3 attack starts for YoDa. Journey tries to break YoDa again.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
45%
★★★- Good game (3)
27%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
27%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Journey vs YoDa?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Journey spawns in the bottom right YoDa spawns in the top right
There was much early-game lag, but we are back!
2:00 Gas/barracks for YoDa. Journey getting a barracks and refinery. Factory for YoDa. Journey getting a reaper.
3:00 SCV scout for Journey. Journey expands. YoDa finishes his factory and starts a starport. Hellion for YoDa. Journey's reaper sees everything.
4:00 Factory starts for Journey. Medivac starts for YoDa. Reaper pokes back in. Widow mine for YoDa. YoDa moving out with some marines and a hellion.
5:00 YoDa going for a marine/mine drop while going towards Journey's base with a hellion. Journey sacrifices a reaper to use the mine of YoDa to splash some marines and he holds, although he loses a bit more. Cloaked banshee for YoDa.
7:00 Journey 49 vs YoDa 47 Second and third CCs starting for YoDa. Raven for Journey. Second banshee on the way for YoDa. Journey has a viking out already. First banshee goes towards the natural, where there's a turret.
8:00 Journey 60 vs YoDa 57 Journey moves out with four hellions. Banshee harassing workers at the natural but it falls. Second banshee distracts Journey enough to allow a drop to kill 5 workers.
9:00 Journey 69 vs YoDa 71 Second banshee nabs a worker at the natural. Stim starts for YoDa. Journey floating some money.
10:00 Journey 76 vs YoDa 79 YoDa has two tanks out already as well. Third CC starts for Journey. Journey scans YoDa's main but misses the engineering bays (there are two). Journey getting his own 2nd engineering bay and +1 attack. YoDa getting +1/1.
11:00 Journey 90 vs YoDa 104 YoDa lands his third CC. Journey's upgrades, including stim, are slightly behind. Armory for both players. YoDa has quite a few vikings with his army as well as a banshee. YoDa moving out.
13:00 Journey 118 vs YoDa 125 +2 attack and combat shields starts for YoDa. YoDa sieges pretty far away from Journey's third. Banshee starts attacking Journey's tank. Both players getting another factory and +1 mech attacks. YoDa carefully harassing tanks with his banshee, baiting marines to go into the tank fire of YoDa.
15:00 Journey 151 vs YoDa 177 YoDa unseiges and Journey goes for the opportunity to break the tank line but YoDa barely holds it. +2/2 is a bit ahead for YoDa. +3 attack starts for YoDa. Journey tries to break YoDa again.
17:00 Journey 112 vs YoDa 157 YoDa breaks Journey's tank line instead and cleans up the third base as well as 25 workers. Tanks are being rallied into YoDa's marines. Journey trying to muster up another force, including 13 marines. Journey GG's! YoDa takes a 1-0 lead for Prime!
When TANGTANG decides he wants to become serious, all he needs to do is change his name and he'll become deadly. That seems to be what happened with a lot of people (Bogus, By.Sun for example).
On December 30 2014 19:39 Packawana wrote: When TANGTANG decides he wants to become serious, all he needs to do is change his name and he'll become deadly. That seems to be what happened with a lot of people (Bogus, By.Sun for example).
On December 30 2014 19:40 JustPassingBy wrote: Am I the only one having problems loading the stream? Tried two different computers and it will not load for either of them... :-/
Yoda on my anti, this isn't good. I think Yoda played in such a safe way, saving his units. Which you normally don't do when you are at an eoconomic disadvantage(normally going for eco damage) making Journey believe that he was going for a follow up push and thats why Yoda managed to sneak in the greedier CC and get his winning advantage.
On December 30 2014 19:41 Shuffleblade wrote: Yoda on my anti, this isn't good. I think Yoda played in such a safe way, saving his units. Which you normally don't do when you are at an eoconomic disadvantage(normally going for eco damage) making Journey believe that he was going for a follow up push and thats why Yoda managed to sneak in the greedier CC and get his winning advantage.
yoda's the best player on prime, (maybe second best after myungsik) he's guaranteed to do somewhat well.
Hurricane spawns in the top left TANGTANG spawns in the top right
Man, I'm going to have a lot of fun writing TANGTANG in the LR.
2:00 Gate/gas for Hurricane. TANGTANG opening with a CC first. Cybernetics core for Hurricane. TANGTANG getting a barracks.
3:00 Second barracks for TANGTANG. Probe harassing TANGTANG's CC. Mothership core and expansion for Hurricane. Probe is still looking around TANGTANG's expansion.
4:00 TANGTANG getting a bunker. Hurricane getting a stalker. Nexus being chronoboosted for Hurricane.
5:00 Hurricane getting a twilight council in the corner of his main. Third CC for TANGTANG. Hurricane looking around with a stalker. TANGTANG getting two refineries and a third barracks as well as an engineering bay. Blink for Hurricane. TANGTANG looking around with an SCV.
That theme choice got me wondering...feel free to throw in other songs if you like!
Poll: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (9)
53%
Blank Space - Taylor Swift (0)
0%
All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (1)
6%
Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (0)
0%
Fancy - Iggy Azalea (3)
18%
Game Over - Lil' Flip (0)
0%
All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (0)
0%
Lose Yourself - Eminem (1)
6%
Other (3)
18%
17 total votes
Your vote: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
(Vote): Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (Vote): Blank Space - Taylor Swift (Vote): All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (Vote): Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (Vote): Fancy - Iggy Azalea (Vote): Game Over - Lil' Flip (Vote): All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (Vote): Lose Yourself - Eminem (Vote): Other
Hurricane spawns in the top left TANGTANG spawns in the top right
Man, I'm going to have a lot of fun writing TANGTANG in the LR.
2:00 Gate/gas for Hurricane. TANGTANG opening with a CC first. Cybernetics core for Hurricane. TANGTANG getting a barracks.
3:00 Second barracks for TANGTANG. Probe harassing TANGTANG's CC. Mothership core and expansion for Hurricane. Probe is still looking around TANGTANG's expansion.
4:00 TANGTANG getting a bunker. Hurricane getting a stalker. Nexus being chronoboosted for Hurricane.
5:00 Hurricane getting a twilight council in the corner of his main. Third CC for TANGTANG. Hurricane looking around with a stalker. TANGTANG getting two refineries and a third barracks as well as an engineering bay. Blink for Hurricane. TANGTANG looking around with an SCV.
6:00 Robotics facility for Hurricane. Probably not a blink all-in then. Stalkers harass and kill an SCV building TANGTANG's second bunker. Hurricane looking for hidden expansions with a probe. Dark shrine for Hurricane. Hurricane adding two gateways. Factory for TANGTANG. TANGTANG scans the main but doesn't see the dark shrine.
8:00 Hurricane 59 vs TANGTANG 60 Warp prism in Hurricane's main base. Starport for TANGTANG. Bunkers deny any small harass from Hurricane. TANGTANG sees blink stalkers coming with a marine and positions his units on a cliff. Observer is killed. DTs being warped in. There's a turret in TANGTANG's natural but not in the main base. There's no available scans. Stim is denied at the last possible second.
10:00 Hurricane 83 vs TANGTANG 76 DTs killed 16 SCVs but a turret finished in the main base. Colossus and five more gateways for Hurricane. Hurricane getting a third base. TANGTANG does have three command centers already, but only 36 workers.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
42%
★★★- Good game (4)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
19%
26 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hurricane vs TANGTANG?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
42%
★★★- Good game (4)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
19%
26 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hurricane vs TANGTANG?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Hurricane spawns in the top left TANGTANG spawns in the top right
Man, I'm going to have a lot of fun writing TANGTANG in the LR.
2:00 Gate/gas for Hurricane. TANGTANG opening with a CC first. Cybernetics core for Hurricane. TANGTANG getting a barracks.
3:00 Second barracks for TANGTANG. Probe harassing TANGTANG's CC. Mothership core and expansion for Hurricane. Probe is still looking around TANGTANG's expansion.
4:00 TANGTANG getting a bunker. Hurricane getting a stalker. Nexus being chronoboosted for Hurricane.
5:00 Hurricane getting a twilight council in the corner of his main. Third CC for TANGTANG. Hurricane looking around with a stalker. TANGTANG getting two refineries and a third barracks as well as an engineering bay. Blink for Hurricane. TANGTANG looking around with an SCV.
6:00 Robotics facility for Hurricane. Probably not a blink all-in then. Stalkers harass and kill an SCV building TANGTANG's second bunker. Hurricane looking for hidden expansions with a probe. Dark shrine for Hurricane. Hurricane adding two gateways. Factory for TANGTANG. TANGTANG scans the main but doesn't see the dark shrine.
8:00 Hurricane 59 vs TANGTANG 60 Warp prism in Hurricane's main base. Starport for TANGTANG. Bunkers deny any small harass from Hurricane. TANGTANG sees blink stalkers coming with a marine and positions his units on a cliff. Observer is killed. DTs being warped in. There's a turret in TANGTANG's natural but not in the main base. There's no available scans. Stim is denied at the last possible second.
10:00 Hurricane 83 vs TANGTANG 76 DTs killed 16 SCVs but a turret finished in the main base. Colossus and five more gateways for Hurricane. Hurricane getting a third base. TANGTANG does have three command centers already, but only 36 workers.
11:00 Hurricane 94 vs TANGTANG 97 TANGTANG moving out. TANGTANG takes the watchtower with a marine but stalkers promptly kill it. Stim is still not done and a zealot drop attempts to deny it. Viking being produced for TANGTANG.
13:00 Hurricane 116 vs TANGTANG 80 This 6 zealot drop kills pretty much everything in TANGTANG's main base. TANGTANG does have stim now. TANGTANG tries to drop on top of Hurrican'e units but that doesn't really work. TANGTANG GG's! Hurricane ties the series up, 1-1!
On December 30 2014 19:47 Liliputin wrote: My terran heart just broke... Fucking DT's, such a gimmick...
Very sorry a Terran got punished for extreme greed.
Except it was done blindly, so it didn't aim at punishing anything, plus DT drops are certainly now how you would "punish" a 3OC build. Geez, people and their prehistoric concept of "punishing greed"
TerrOr or TANGTANG, who's the best PRIME player? Good choice to pick Hurricane for this week. Though I just saw I traded him away from anti, which is just fine too.
On December 30 2014 19:47 SantosPhillipCarlo wrote: That theme choice got me wondering...feel free to throw in other songs if you like! + Show Spoiler +
Poll: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (9)
53%
Blank Space - Taylor Swift (0)
0%
All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (1)
6%
Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (0)
0%
Fancy - Iggy Azalea (3)
18%
Game Over - Lil' Flip (0)
0%
All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (0)
0%
Lose Yourself - Eminem (1)
6%
Other (3)
18%
17 total votes
Your vote: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
(Vote): Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (Vote): Blank Space - Taylor Swift (Vote): All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (Vote): Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (Vote): Fancy - Iggy Azalea (Vote): Game Over - Lil' Flip (Vote): All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (Vote): Lose Yourself - Eminem (Vote): Other
I don't know hald of these; I guess that might be a good thing? Anyway most disturbing theme for me would probably this one: (Warning: You'll lose IQ-points by watching it) + Show Spoiler +
On December 30 2014 19:45 robson1 wrote: tangtang is already in a death animation i feel.
Eh, Hurricane should 100% lose
lol are you insane?
It's funny how that one scan on the observer lost him the game. Had he had that, he'd have easily won. Protoss is great :D
Even if he had 1 scan more, he would never been able to avoid damage.
Yes he would have. The DTs do nothing -> stim finishes, Tangtang moves across the map and wins the game because Hurricane has only blink, DTs and super late colossus tech.
On December 30 2014 19:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This is the most Protoss fucking game.
On December 30 2014 19:47 Liliputin wrote: My terran heart just broke... Fucking DT's, such a gimmick...
Very sorry a Terran got punished for extreme greed.
Except it was done blindly, so it didn't aim at punishing anything, plus DT drops are certainly now how you would "punish" a 3OC build. Geez, people and their prehistoric concept of "punishing greed"
On December 30 2014 19:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This is the most Protoss fucking game.
On December 30 2014 19:47 Liliputin wrote: My terran heart just broke... Fucking DT's, such a gimmick...
Very sorry a Terran got punished for extreme greed.
Except it was done blindly, so it didn't aim at punishing anything, plus DT drops are certainly now how you would "punish" a 3OC build. Geez, people and their prehistoric concept of "punishing greed"
On December 30 2014 19:50 Circumstance wrote: It was a good showing for his first outing. Hurricane won that game much more than TANGTANG lost it. I'd call him the better rookie of this match.
we didn't even get to see drops that is how quick he lost it
Gonna keep this going in the commercial break. Saw a couple votes in "Other" - what other songs would you guys pick?
Poll: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (9)
53%
Blank Space - Taylor Swift (0)
0%
All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (1)
6%
Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (0)
0%
Fancy - Iggy Azalea (3)
18%
Game Over - Lil' Flip (0)
0%
All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (0)
0%
Lose Yourself - Eminem (1)
6%
Other (3)
18%
17 total votes
Your vote: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
(Vote): Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (Vote): Blank Space - Taylor Swift (Vote): All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (Vote): Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (Vote): Fancy - Iggy Azalea (Vote): Game Over - Lil' Flip (Vote): All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (Vote): Lose Yourself - Eminem (Vote): Other
On December 30 2014 19:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This is the most Protoss fucking game.
On December 30 2014 19:47 Liliputin wrote: My terran heart just broke... Fucking DT's, such a gimmick...
Very sorry a Terran got punished for extreme greed.
Except it was done blindly, so it didn't aim at punishing anything, plus DT drops are certainly now how you would "punish" a 3OC build. Geez, people and their prehistoric concept of "punishing greed"
lol
Make more excuses.
I don't make excuses, I don't care at all about the result of this game. But this "punishing greed" analysis is just such a bad cliché
On December 30 2014 19:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This is the most Protoss fucking game.
On December 30 2014 19:47 Liliputin wrote: My terran heart just broke... Fucking DT's, such a gimmick...
Very sorry a Terran got punished for extreme greed.
Except it was done blindly, so it didn't aim at punishing anything, plus DT drops are certainly now how you would "punish" a 3OC build. Geez, people and their prehistoric concept of "punishing greed"
What does it matter if it's done blindly by hurricane. TANGTANG took a risky economic build and it matched up with a blink stalker DT pressure which he couldn't hold with what he had.
On December 30 2014 19:45 robson1 wrote: tangtang is already in a death animation i feel.
Eh, Hurricane should 100% lose
lol are you insane?
It's funny how that one scan on the observer lost him the game. Had he had that, he'd have easily won. Protoss is great :D
Even if he had 1 scan more, he would never been able to avoid damage.
Yes he would have. The DTs do nothing -> stim finishes, Tangtang moves across the map and wins the game because Hurricane has only blink, DTs and super late colossus tech.
That's the heartbreaking part... he could have done it if he just had one more scan, or if a number of things had just gone slightly better. I'm depressed now
On December 30 2014 19:52 SantosPhillipCarlo wrote: Gonna keep this going in the commercial break. Saw a couple votes in "Other" - what other songs would you guys pick?
Poll: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (9)
53%
Blank Space - Taylor Swift (0)
0%
All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (1)
6%
Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (0)
0%
Fancy - Iggy Azalea (3)
18%
Game Over - Lil' Flip (0)
0%
All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (0)
0%
Lose Yourself - Eminem (1)
6%
Other (3)
18%
17 total votes
Your vote: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
(Vote): Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (Vote): Blank Space - Taylor Swift (Vote): All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (Vote): Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (Vote): Fancy - Iggy Azalea (Vote): Game Over - Lil' Flip (Vote): All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (Vote): Lose Yourself - Eminem (Vote): Other
Posted it above, but technically any part of german Volksmusik/Schlager would probably be a viable choice, too. I really hope, that that doesn't happen though.
On December 30 2014 19:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This is the most Protoss fucking game.
On December 30 2014 19:47 Liliputin wrote: My terran heart just broke... Fucking DT's, such a gimmick...
Very sorry a Terran got punished for extreme greed.
Except it was done blindly, so it didn't aim at punishing anything, plus DT drops are certainly now how you would "punish" a 3OC build. Geez, people and their prehistoric concept of "punishing greed"
What does it matter if it's done blindly by hurricane. TANGTANG took a risky economic build and it matched up with a blink stalker DT pressure which he couldn't hold with what he had.
He could have perfectly held with what his build. This isn't like a 6g Blink that would bulldoze him regardless of what he does after the third CC
On December 30 2014 19:52 SantosPhillipCarlo wrote: Gonna keep this going in the commercial break. Saw a couple votes in "Other" - what other songs would you guys pick?
Poll: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (9)
53%
Blank Space - Taylor Swift (0)
0%
All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (1)
6%
Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (0)
0%
Fancy - Iggy Azalea (3)
18%
Game Over - Lil' Flip (0)
0%
All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (0)
0%
Lose Yourself - Eminem (1)
6%
Other (3)
18%
17 total votes
Your vote: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
(Vote): Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (Vote): Blank Space - Taylor Swift (Vote): All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (Vote): Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (Vote): Fancy - Iggy Azalea (Vote): Game Over - Lil' Flip (Vote): All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (Vote): Lose Yourself - Eminem (Vote): Other
Posted it above, but technically any part of german Volksmusik/Schlager would probably be a viable choice, too. I really hope, that that doesn't happen though.
Okay. Thanks for clearing that up - sorry I missed you earlier. Why not, if you don't mind me asking?
How can people even worry about MyuNgSiK loosing this game? PvZ is his strongest MU, Armani is a scrub. MyuNgSiK PvZ GOD. GG. Creator prepare your PvZ loosing streak, so we can go to ace match and Myungsik to take it all!
On December 30 2014 19:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This is the most Protoss fucking game.
On December 30 2014 19:47 Liliputin wrote: My terran heart just broke... Fucking DT's, such a gimmick...
Very sorry a Terran got punished for extreme greed.
Except it was done blindly, so it didn't aim at punishing anything, plus DT drops are certainly now how you would "punish" a 3OC build. Geez, people and their prehistoric concept of "punishing greed"
What does it matter if it's done blindly by hurricane. TANGTANG took a risky economic build and it matched up with a blink stalker DT pressure which he couldn't hold with what he had.
He could have perfectly held with what his build. This isn't like a 6g Blink that would bulldoze him regardless of what he does after the third CC
he blundered his defense though... you don't get much wiggle room with such a cutthroat greedy build... I don't get the terran tears... and I'm terran.
On December 30 2014 19:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This is the most Protoss fucking game.
On December 30 2014 19:47 Liliputin wrote: My terran heart just broke... Fucking DT's, such a gimmick...
Very sorry a Terran got punished for extreme greed.
Except it was done blindly, so it didn't aim at punishing anything, plus DT drops are certainly now how you would "punish" a 3OC build. Geez, people and their prehistoric concept of "punishing greed"
What does it matter if it's done blindly by hurricane. TANGTANG took a risky economic build and it matched up with a blink stalker DT pressure which he couldn't hold with what he had.
He could have perfectly held with what his build. This isn't like a 6g Blink that would bulldoze him regardless of what he does after the third CC
he blundered his defense though... you don't get much wiggle room with such a cutthroat greedy build... I don't get the terran tears... and I'm terran.
On December 30 2014 19:52 SantosPhillipCarlo wrote: Gonna keep this going in the commercial break. Saw a couple votes in "Other" - what other songs would you guys pick?
Poll: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (9)
53%
Blank Space - Taylor Swift (0)
0%
All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (1)
6%
Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (0)
0%
Fancy - Iggy Azalea (3)
18%
Game Over - Lil' Flip (0)
0%
All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (0)
0%
Lose Yourself - Eminem (1)
6%
Other (3)
18%
17 total votes
Your vote: What is or would be the most offbeat/amusing Proleague player theme?
(Vote): Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Tangtang's choice) (Vote): Blank Space - Taylor Swift (Vote): All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (Vote): Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande feat. The Weekend (Vote): Fancy - Iggy Azalea (Vote): Game Over - Lil' Flip (Vote): All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled (Vote): Lose Yourself - Eminem (Vote): Other
Posted it above, but technically any part of german Volksmusik/Schlager would probably be a viable choice, too. I really hope, that that doesn't happen though.
Okay. Thanks for clearing that up - sorry I missed you earlier. Why not, if you don't mind me asking?
Because that would have me run away from my computer in horror, which is a state, I generally want to avoid.
On December 30 2014 19:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This is the most Protoss fucking game.
On December 30 2014 19:47 Liliputin wrote: My terran heart just broke... Fucking DT's, such a gimmick...
Very sorry a Terran got punished for extreme greed.
Except it was done blindly, so it didn't aim at punishing anything, plus DT drops are certainly now how you would "punish" a 3OC build. Geez, people and their prehistoric concept of "punishing greed"
What does it matter if it's done blindly by hurricane. TANGTANG took a risky economic build and it matched up with a blink stalker DT pressure which he couldn't hold with what he had.
He could have perfectly held with what his build. This isn't like a 6g Blink that would bulldoze him regardless of what he does after the third CC
he blundered his defense though... you don't get much wiggle room with such a cutthroat greedy build... I don't get the terran tears... and I'm terran.
There are no tears
not by you, agreed. But how would you rate comments like: my terran heart just broke, dt's are such a gimmick.
Armani spawns in the bottom right MyuNgSiK spawns in the top right
2:00 Nexus first versus hatchery first. Armani gets a third base before spawning pool. Gateway and two assimilators for MyuNgSiK.
3:00 MyuNgSiK getting a cybernetics core. Zealot for MyuNgSiK. Armani getting two zerglinsg and two queens.
4:00 Stalker for MyuNgSiK. Third queen for Armani. Also, drones. MyuNgSiK patrolling the natural ramp with a zealot.
5:00 Stargate for MyuNgSiK. A stalker denies an overlord scout but two zerglings get into the main and see the stargate.
6:00 MyuNgSiK grabs two gasses at his natural. Two spore crawlers and a roach warren for Armani. Armani researching zergling speed. Phoenix finds and kills an overlord.
7:00 Armani 60 vs MyuNgSiK 51 Four more gateways and a warp prism from MyuNgSiK. Armani grabbing two evolution chambers and another spore crawler. A second overlord is found an killed. Sentries are loaded into the warp prism.
8:00 Armani 76 vs MyuNgSiK 58 Armani very briefly sees a warp prism and sends his zerglings into his main base. Tons of zealots and sentries being warped in in Armani's main base. Zerglings and roaches are sent to defend. The spawning pool is focus fired and killed.
10:00 Armani 96 vs MyuNgSiK 69 All of the sentries are cleaned up as the cost of two roaches and a bunch of zerglings. The warp prism died too. +1 attack starts for MyuNgSiK. Still no third base for MyuNgSiK. Hydralisk den for Armani. Blink being researched. MyuNgSiK has a fair number of immortals.
Why is myungsik waiting so much lol It's not like if you get more zealots and sentries you're gonna trade better against 3 hatch roach/hydra production.
Myungsik did actually force a panicked Changeling from Armani, meaning he won't be able to Contaminate anything useful unless this game goes on a fair bit longer.
On December 30 2014 20:04 KingAlphard wrote: Why is myungsik waiting so much lol It's not like if you get more zealots and sentries you're gonna trade better against 3 hatch roach/hydra production.
Seed's 200/200 sentry immortal all-in never forget
On December 30 2014 20:04 KingAlphard wrote: Why is myungsik waiting so much lol It's not like if you get more zealots and sentries you're gonna trade better against 3 hatch roach/hydra production.
Seed's 200/200 sentry immortal all-in never forget
Uhmmm I tried something like that on the ladder but zerg has so much bank at that point that he can remax immediately while you are stuck at 90 supply even if you win the engagement :\
On December 30 2014 20:04 KingAlphard wrote: Why is myungsik waiting so much lol It's not like if you get more zealots and sentries you're gonna trade better against 3 hatch roach/hydra production.
Seed's 200/200 sentry immortal all-in never forget
Uhmmm I tried something like that on the ladder but zerg has so much bank at that point that he can remax immediately while you are stuck at 90 supply even if you win the engagement :\
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
35%
★★★- Good game (2)
10%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
10%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Armani vs MyuNgSiK?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
35%
★★★- Good game (2)
10%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
10%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Armani vs MyuNgSiK?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Armani spawns in the bottom right MyuNgSiK spawns in the top right
2:00 Nexus first versus hatchery first. Armani gets a third base before spawning pool. Gateway and two assimilators for MyuNgSiK.
3:00 MyuNgSiK getting a cybernetics core. Zealot for MyuNgSiK. Armani getting two zerglinsg and two queens.
4:00 Stalker for MyuNgSiK. Third queen for Armani. Also, drones. MyuNgSiK patrolling the natural ramp with a zealot.
5:00 Stargate for MyuNgSiK. A stalker denies an overlord scout but two zerglings get into the main and see the stargate.
6:00 MyuNgSiK grabs two gasses at his natural. Two spore crawlers and a roach warren for Armani. Armani researching zergling speed. Phoenix finds and kills an overlord.
7:00 Armani 60 vs MyuNgSiK 51 Four more gateways and a warp prism from MyuNgSiK. Armani grabbing two evolution chambers and another spore crawler. A second overlord is found an killed. Sentries are loaded into the warp prism.
8:00 Armani 76 vs MyuNgSiK 58 Armani very briefly sees a warp prism and sends his zerglings into his main base. Tons of zealots and sentries being warped in in Armani's main base. Zerglings and roaches are sent to defend. The spawning pool is focus fired and killed.
10:00 Armani 96 vs MyuNgSiK 69 All of the sentries are cleaned up as the cost of two roaches and a bunch of zerglings. The warp prism died too. +1 attack starts for MyuNgSiK. Still no third base for MyuNgSiK. Hydralisk den for Armani. Blink being researched. MyuNgSiK has a fair number of immortals.
11:00 Armani 117 vs MyuNgSiK 93 Hydralisks and range being gotten by Armani. Armani taking a fourth base. Still no third base by MyuNgSiK. MyuNgSiK has another warp prism out.
12:00 Armani 148 vs MyuNgSiK 117 MyuNgSiK moving out again. Armani is supply blocked. +2 attack starts for MyuNgSiK. A FF is attempted on the main ramp of Armani but plenty of zerglings are there to defend. MyuNgSiK backing off again.
14:00 Armani 199 vs MyuNgSiK 159 Three zealots are dropped in the main base of Armani. Armani has two spine crawlers at his front. MyuNgSiK is still on two bases.
15:00 Armani 200 vs MyuNgSiK 168 All of MyuNgSiK's zealots are behind stalkers. Engagement near Armani's fourth base which is a slight victory for Armani. MyuNgSiK trying again and there are queens as well as mostly hydralisks. MyuNgSiK nearly powers his way through the army of Armani but gets pushed back. MyuNgSiK losing tons of workers at home, and GG's! Armani brings his team to a 2-1 lead!
On December 30 2014 20:11 Phredxor wrote: 2 and 10. Jesus.
NOW people listen. I told everyone before the ST-YOE match that Creator wouldn't beat a Zerg, but people were like "LOL this is Proleague, you can't look at the numbers, Leenock's got no chance".
On December 30 2014 20:15 Circumstance wrote: I'm not betting on it, but if Creator wins, Yoda could take an Ace, and that'd give me ULTIMATE FPL VALUE MUAHAHAHAHA
Shine spawns in the bottom right Creator spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
Shine spawns in the bottom right Creator spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
Shine spawns in the bottom right Creator spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
On December 30 2014 20:26 The_Red_Viper wrote: Shine with the pauses to make kespa call the police. Creator with his trauma will forfeit the match as soon as he sees them. GG Samsung wins
I was thinking something along those lines myself xD
On December 30 2014 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote: I wonder if Shine made those roaches purely to keep Creator's phoenixes away from his base so they wouldn't scout the infestation pit/spire right away
On December 30 2014 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote: I wonder if Shine made those roaches purely to keep Creator's phoenixes away from his base so they wouldn't scout the infestation pit/spire right away
thats like a 6 level deep mindgame
I can't see a different reason. Those roaches were random as hell.
Shine spawns in the bottom right Creator spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
On December 30 2014 20:32 Keeemy wrote: I love Creator for making mass voids instead of tempests. So often protosses go for mass tempests and then corruptors will just wreck them.
Better to go mass voidrays to lose to a single infestor indeed!
On December 30 2014 20:32 Keeemy wrote: I love Creator for making mass voids instead of tempests. So often protosses go for mass tempests and then corruptors will just wreck them.
Shine spawns in the bottom right Creator spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
Shine spawns in the bottom right Creator spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
21:00 Shine 191 vs Creator 174 Creator tries running into the fourth but the mothership is abducted and recalled. Shine morphs banelings near Creator's backdoor natural. Banelings get into the natural but there are only a few probes there so they're largely wasted.
23:00 Shine 200 (4500/2500) vs Creator 197 (2500/950) A viper is feedbacked. Creator moving out to the center again. Both players are still on five bases, with neither backdoor base taken yet. Creator loses an archon. Shine looks like he wants to try something with his corrupters. Shine taking his backdoor base. An infestor is being added to Shine's army. Fungal on all of creator's HTs.
25:00 Shine 198 (6600/4000) vs Creator 184 (3700/1100) +3/3 air and +3 ground armor for Creator. Creator moving behind Shine's bottom left base with his entire army. Shine only has 16 corrupters. Two tempests are abducted and quickly killed. 15 banelings are being morphed. Creator takes his 6th base as well.
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
Brood Lords aren't good... They are kind of one-trick pony unit, where you can just do some timing attack if opponent didn't scout them or didn't prepare well enough. The moment you have 3+ Tempests, Brood Lords are useless. Same goes against Terran if he makes like ~10 Vikings if he scouts your Broods.
Shine spawns in the bottom right Creator spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
21:00 Shine 191 vs Creator 174 Creator tries running into the fourth but the mothership is abducted and recalled. Shine morphs banelings near Creator's backdoor natural. Banelings get into the natural but there are only a few probes there so they're largely wasted.
23:00 Shine 200 (4500/2500) vs Creator 197 (2500/950) A viper is feedbacked. Creator moving out to the center again. Both players are still on five bases, with neither backdoor base taken yet. Creator loses an archon. Shine looks like he wants to try something with his corrupters. Shine taking his backdoor base. An infestor is being added to Shine's army. Fungal on all of creator's HTs.
25:00 Shine 198 (6600/4000) vs Creator 184 (3700/1100) +3/3 air and +3 ground armor for Creator. Creator moving behind Shine's bottom left base with his entire army. Shine only has 16 corrupters. Two tempests are abducted and quickly killed. 15 banelings are being morphed. Creator takes his 6th base as well.
27:00 Shine 189 (8000/5000) vs Creator 194 (2700/1500) Shine runs into Creator's upper right base with a bunch of banelings and zerglings, killing it as well as 22 workers. +3 shields starts for Creator. Creator kills Shine's 6th base. +3/3 air is half done for Shine but done for Creator. Shine getting more corrupters. Shine is retaking his 6th base. Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Another tempest is abducted and storms are ignored as it dies. +3 ranged attacks for Shine. Creator re-taking the upper right base.
29:00 Shine 200 (8300/5600) vs Creator 199 (1900/900) Creator tries harassing Shine's lower left base with stalkers but they all die at almost no gain. Creator has 20 voi rays. Creator going for the lower left base with his mass void rays. Fungals go on a lot of the voids, and most of them die. Shine is up to 24 corrupters, but only has 7 infestors.
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
it isn't laziness
:D Dude I know, I was just pushing it here a bit sorry. So why isn't it used anymore?
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
it isn't laziness
:D Dude I know, I was just pushing it here a bit sorry. So why isn't it used anymore?
It is still used? But only against specific compositions (-> Void Rays, Ravens). In most (rather "normal") games, Fungal isn't really viable anymore, imo.
Shine spawns in the bottom right Creator spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
21:00 Shine 191 vs Creator 174 Creator tries running into the fourth but the mothership is abducted and recalled. Shine morphs banelings near Creator's backdoor natural. Banelings get into the natural but there are only a few probes there so they're largely wasted.
23:00 Shine 200 (4500/2500) vs Creator 197 (2500/950) A viper is feedbacked. Creator moving out to the center again. Both players are still on five bases, with neither backdoor base taken yet. Creator loses an archon. Shine looks like he wants to try something with his corrupters. Shine taking his backdoor base. An infestor is being added to Shine's army. Fungal on all of creator's HTs.
25:00 Shine 198 (6600/4000) vs Creator 184 (3700/1100) +3/3 air and +3 ground armor for Creator. Creator moving behind Shine's bottom left base with his entire army. Shine only has 16 corrupters. Two tempests are abducted and quickly killed. 15 banelings are being morphed. Creator takes his 6th base as well.
27:00 Shine 189 (8000/5000) vs Creator 194 (2700/1500) Shine runs into Creator's upper right base with a bunch of banelings and zerglings, killing it as well as 22 workers. +3 shields starts for Creator. Creator kills Shine's 6th base. +3/3 air is half done for Shine but done for Creator. Shine getting more corrupters. Shine is retaking his 6th base. Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Another tempest is abducted and storms are ignored as it dies. +3 ranged attacks for Shine. Creator re-taking the upper right base.
29:00 Shine 200 (8300/5600) vs Creator 199 (1900/900) Creator tries harassing Shine's lower left base with stalkers but they all die at almost no gain. Creator has 20 voi rays. Creator going for the lower left base with his mass void rays. Fungals go on a lot of the voids, and most of them die. Shine is up to 24 corrupters, but only has 7 infestors.
31:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 195 Shine morphing more banelings near Creator's upper right base. Creator's army goes near the lower left base of Shine and he starts attacking it. Mothership at Creator's 6th is abducted and killed. Infestors show up at the lower left base and fungal some units, killin them with corrupters. Creator loses all but one colossus. Creator loses the upper right base again. Shine is still on the same corrupter/SH/infestor army.
33:00 Shine 174 (10700/7400) vs Creator 172 (1000/600) Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Shine loses a viper near the 6th of Creator. Creator tries harassing with stalkers but fails to do damage with them. More void rays are abducted and killed. A DT is killing banelings lol. Shine goes for Creator's center base where there's only two pylons powering 6 cannons.
35:00 Shine 185 (10200/8500) vs Creator 191 (1100/450) Creator still trying to make a dent in Shine's bases. Creator lost his center base and upper right base again. Infested terrans take the lower left watchtower. More infestors and vipers for Shine. Shine morphing more banelings. Mothership is abducted. All of Creator's units are fungalled and they take heavy damage. Shine engages the army but doesn't actually have enough brute force to break through the core of the army.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
23%
★★★- Good game (2)
9%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (11)
50%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
9%
22 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Shine vs Creator?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Ace Match?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (8)
57%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
7%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
21%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Shine spawns in the bottom right Creator spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
21:00 Shine 191 vs Creator 174 Creator tries running into the fourth but the mothership is abducted and recalled. Shine morphs banelings near Creator's backdoor natural. Banelings get into the natural but there are only a few probes there so they're largely wasted.
23:00 Shine 200 (4500/2500) vs Creator 197 (2500/950) A viper is feedbacked. Creator moving out to the center again. Both players are still on five bases, with neither backdoor base taken yet. Creator loses an archon. Shine looks like he wants to try something with his corrupters. Shine taking his backdoor base. An infestor is being added to Shine's army. Fungal on all of creator's HTs.
25:00 Shine 198 (6600/4000) vs Creator 184 (3700/1100) +3/3 air and +3 ground armor for Creator. Creator moving behind Shine's bottom left base with his entire army. Shine only has 16 corrupters. Two tempests are abducted and quickly killed. 15 banelings are being morphed. Creator takes his 6th base as well.
27:00 Shine 189 (8000/5000) vs Creator 194 (2700/1500) Shine runs into Creator's upper right base with a bunch of banelings and zerglings, killing it as well as 22 workers. +3 shields starts for Creator. Creator kills Shine's 6th base. +3/3 air is half done for Shine but done for Creator. Shine getting more corrupters. Shine is retaking his 6th base. Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Another tempest is abducted and storms are ignored as it dies. +3 ranged attacks for Shine. Creator re-taking the upper right base.
29:00 Shine 200 (8300/5600) vs Creator 199 (1900/900) Creator tries harassing Shine's lower left base with stalkers but they all die at almost no gain. Creator has 20 voi rays. Creator going for the lower left base with his mass void rays. Fungals go on a lot of the voids, and most of them die. Shine is up to 24 corrupters, but only has 7 infestors.
31:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 195 Shine morphing more banelings near Creator's upper right base. Creator's army goes near the lower left base of Shine and he starts attacking it. Mothership at Creator's 6th is abducted and killed. Infestors show up at the lower left base and fungal some units, killin them with corrupters. Creator loses all but one colossus. Creator loses the upper right base again. Shine is still on the same corrupter/SH/infestor army.
33:00 Shine 174 (10700/7400) vs Creator 172 (1000/600) Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Shine loses a viper near the 6th of Creator. Creator tries harassing with stalkers but fails to do damage with them. More void rays are abducted and killed. A DT is killing banelings lol. Shine goes for Creator's center base where there's only two pylons powering 6 cannons.
35:00 Shine 185 (10200/8500) vs Creator 191 (1100/450) Creator still trying to make a dent in Shine's bases. Creator lost his center base and upper right base again. Infested terrans take the lower left watchtower. More infestors and vipers for Shine. Shine morphing more banelings. Mothership is abducted. All of Creator's units are fungalled and they take heavy damage. Shine engages the army but doesn't actually have enough brute force to break through the core of the army.
37:00 Shine 186 (9000/6900) vs Creator 138 (1100/50) Shine crashing into the third base with a lot of banelings and zerglings. Creator's army is being whittled down with fungals and corrupters. Creator GG's! Samsung wins 3-1!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
23%
★★★- Good game (2)
9%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (11)
50%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
9%
22 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Shine vs Creator?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Ace Match?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (8)
57%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
7%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
21%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
Brood Lords aren't good... They are kind of one-trick pony unit, where you can just do some timing attack if opponent didn't scout them or didn't prepare well enough. The moment you have 3+ Tempests, Brood Lords are useless. Same goes against Terran if he makes like ~10 Vikings if he scouts your Broods.
That part with the one trick pony is true. But as Shown yesterday, destroying a lot of the terran while forcing him into making lots of vikings, having a lot of useless supply in the air afterwards can help and improve the lead
Shine spawns in the bottom right Creator spawns in the top left
1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
21:00 Shine 191 vs Creator 174 Creator tries running into the fourth but the mothership is abducted and recalled. Shine morphs banelings near Creator's backdoor natural. Banelings get into the natural but there are only a few probes there so they're largely wasted.
23:00 Shine 200 (4500/2500) vs Creator 197 (2500/950) A viper is feedbacked. Creator moving out to the center again. Both players are still on five bases, with neither backdoor base taken yet. Creator loses an archon. Shine looks like he wants to try something with his corrupters. Shine taking his backdoor base. An infestor is being added to Shine's army. Fungal on all of creator's HTs.
25:00 Shine 198 (6600/4000) vs Creator 184 (3700/1100) +3/3 air and +3 ground armor for Creator. Creator moving behind Shine's bottom left base with his entire army. Shine only has 16 corrupters. Two tempests are abducted and quickly killed. 15 banelings are being morphed. Creator takes his 6th base as well.
27:00 Shine 189 (8000/5000) vs Creator 194 (2700/1500) Shine runs into Creator's upper right base with a bunch of banelings and zerglings, killing it as well as 22 workers. +3 shields starts for Creator. Creator kills Shine's 6th base. +3/3 air is half done for Shine but done for Creator. Shine getting more corrupters. Shine is retaking his 6th base. Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Another tempest is abducted and storms are ignored as it dies. +3 ranged attacks for Shine. Creator re-taking the upper right base.
29:00 Shine 200 (8300/5600) vs Creator 199 (1900/900) Creator tries harassing Shine's lower left base with stalkers but they all die at almost no gain. Creator has 20 voi rays. Creator going for the lower left base with his mass void rays. Fungals go on a lot of the voids, and most of them die. Shine is up to 24 corrupters, but only has 7 infestors.
31:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 195 Shine morphing more banelings near Creator's upper right base. Creator's army goes near the lower left base of Shine and he starts attacking it. Mothership at Creator's 6th is abducted and killed. Infestors show up at the lower left base and fungal some units, killin them with corrupters. Creator loses all but one colossus. Creator loses the upper right base again. Shine is still on the same corrupter/SH/infestor army.
33:00 Shine 174 (10700/7400) vs Creator 172 (1000/600) Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Shine loses a viper near the 6th of Creator. Creator tries harassing with stalkers but fails to do damage with them. More void rays are abducted and killed. A DT is killing banelings lol. Shine goes for Creator's center base where there's only two pylons powering 6 cannons.
35:00 Shine 185 (10200/8500) vs Creator 191 (1100/450) Creator still trying to make a dent in Shine's bases. Creator lost his center base and upper right base again. Infested terrans take the lower left watchtower. More infestors and vipers for Shine. Shine morphing more banelings. Mothership is abducted. All of Creator's units are fungalled and they take heavy damage. Shine engages the army but doesn't actually have enough brute force to break through the core of the army.
37:00 Shine 186 (9000/6900) vs Creator 138 (1100/50) Shine crashing into the third base with a lot of banelings and zerglings. Creator's army is being whittled down with fungals and corrupters. Creator GG's! Samsung wins 3-1!
Templar you must have so much passion to commentate on a SH game.
On December 30 2014 20:17 The_Templar wrote: [quote] 1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
21:00 Shine 191 vs Creator 174 Creator tries running into the fourth but the mothership is abducted and recalled. Shine morphs banelings near Creator's backdoor natural. Banelings get into the natural but there are only a few probes there so they're largely wasted.
23:00 Shine 200 (4500/2500) vs Creator 197 (2500/950) A viper is feedbacked. Creator moving out to the center again. Both players are still on five bases, with neither backdoor base taken yet. Creator loses an archon. Shine looks like he wants to try something with his corrupters. Shine taking his backdoor base. An infestor is being added to Shine's army. Fungal on all of creator's HTs.
25:00 Shine 198 (6600/4000) vs Creator 184 (3700/1100) +3/3 air and +3 ground armor for Creator. Creator moving behind Shine's bottom left base with his entire army. Shine only has 16 corrupters. Two tempests are abducted and quickly killed. 15 banelings are being morphed. Creator takes his 6th base as well.
27:00 Shine 189 (8000/5000) vs Creator 194 (2700/1500) Shine runs into Creator's upper right base with a bunch of banelings and zerglings, killing it as well as 22 workers. +3 shields starts for Creator. Creator kills Shine's 6th base. +3/3 air is half done for Shine but done for Creator. Shine getting more corrupters. Shine is retaking his 6th base. Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Another tempest is abducted and storms are ignored as it dies. +3 ranged attacks for Shine. Creator re-taking the upper right base.
29:00 Shine 200 (8300/5600) vs Creator 199 (1900/900) Creator tries harassing Shine's lower left base with stalkers but they all die at almost no gain. Creator has 20 voi rays. Creator going for the lower left base with his mass void rays. Fungals go on a lot of the voids, and most of them die. Shine is up to 24 corrupters, but only has 7 infestors.
31:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 195 Shine morphing more banelings near Creator's upper right base. Creator's army goes near the lower left base of Shine and he starts attacking it. Mothership at Creator's 6th is abducted and killed. Infestors show up at the lower left base and fungal some units, killin them with corrupters. Creator loses all but one colossus. Creator loses the upper right base again. Shine is still on the same corrupter/SH/infestor army.
33:00 Shine 174 (10700/7400) vs Creator 172 (1000/600) Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Shine loses a viper near the 6th of Creator. Creator tries harassing with stalkers but fails to do damage with them. More void rays are abducted and killed. A DT is killing banelings lol. Shine goes for Creator's center base where there's only two pylons powering 6 cannons.
35:00 Shine 185 (10200/8500) vs Creator 191 (1100/450) Creator still trying to make a dent in Shine's bases. Creator lost his center base and upper right base again. Infested terrans take the lower left watchtower. More infestors and vipers for Shine. Shine morphing more banelings. Mothership is abducted. All of Creator's units are fungalled and they take heavy damage. Shine engages the army but doesn't actually have enough brute force to break through the core of the army.
37:00 Shine 186 (9000/6900) vs Creator 138 (1100/50) Shine crashing into the third base with a lot of banelings and zerglings. Creator's army is being whittled down with fungals and corrupters. Creator GG's! Samsung wins 3-1!
Templar you must have so much passion to commentate on a SH game.
On December 30 2014 20:17 The_Templar wrote: [quote] 1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
21:00 Shine 191 vs Creator 174 Creator tries running into the fourth but the mothership is abducted and recalled. Shine morphs banelings near Creator's backdoor natural. Banelings get into the natural but there are only a few probes there so they're largely wasted.
23:00 Shine 200 (4500/2500) vs Creator 197 (2500/950) A viper is feedbacked. Creator moving out to the center again. Both players are still on five bases, with neither backdoor base taken yet. Creator loses an archon. Shine looks like he wants to try something with his corrupters. Shine taking his backdoor base. An infestor is being added to Shine's army. Fungal on all of creator's HTs.
25:00 Shine 198 (6600/4000) vs Creator 184 (3700/1100) +3/3 air and +3 ground armor for Creator. Creator moving behind Shine's bottom left base with his entire army. Shine only has 16 corrupters. Two tempests are abducted and quickly killed. 15 banelings are being morphed. Creator takes his 6th base as well.
27:00 Shine 189 (8000/5000) vs Creator 194 (2700/1500) Shine runs into Creator's upper right base with a bunch of banelings and zerglings, killing it as well as 22 workers. +3 shields starts for Creator. Creator kills Shine's 6th base. +3/3 air is half done for Shine but done for Creator. Shine getting more corrupters. Shine is retaking his 6th base. Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Another tempest is abducted and storms are ignored as it dies. +3 ranged attacks for Shine. Creator re-taking the upper right base.
29:00 Shine 200 (8300/5600) vs Creator 199 (1900/900) Creator tries harassing Shine's lower left base with stalkers but they all die at almost no gain. Creator has 20 voi rays. Creator going for the lower left base with his mass void rays. Fungals go on a lot of the voids, and most of them die. Shine is up to 24 corrupters, but only has 7 infestors.
31:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 195 Shine morphing more banelings near Creator's upper right base. Creator's army goes near the lower left base of Shine and he starts attacking it. Mothership at Creator's 6th is abducted and killed. Infestors show up at the lower left base and fungal some units, killin them with corrupters. Creator loses all but one colossus. Creator loses the upper right base again. Shine is still on the same corrupter/SH/infestor army.
33:00 Shine 174 (10700/7400) vs Creator 172 (1000/600) Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Shine loses a viper near the 6th of Creator. Creator tries harassing with stalkers but fails to do damage with them. More void rays are abducted and killed. A DT is killing banelings lol. Shine goes for Creator's center base where there's only two pylons powering 6 cannons.
35:00 Shine 185 (10200/8500) vs Creator 191 (1100/450) Creator still trying to make a dent in Shine's bases. Creator lost his center base and upper right base again. Infested terrans take the lower left watchtower. More infestors and vipers for Shine. Shine morphing more banelings. Mothership is abducted. All of Creator's units are fungalled and they take heavy damage. Shine engages the army but doesn't actually have enough brute force to break through the core of the army.
37:00 Shine 186 (9000/6900) vs Creator 138 (1100/50) Shine crashing into the third base with a lot of banelings and zerglings. Creator's army is being whittled down with fungals and corrupters. Creator GG's! Samsung wins 3-1!
Templar you must have so much passion to commentate on a SH game.
On December 30 2014 20:18 The_Templar wrote: [quote] 6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
21:00 Shine 191 vs Creator 174 Creator tries running into the fourth but the mothership is abducted and recalled. Shine morphs banelings near Creator's backdoor natural. Banelings get into the natural but there are only a few probes there so they're largely wasted.
23:00 Shine 200 (4500/2500) vs Creator 197 (2500/950) A viper is feedbacked. Creator moving out to the center again. Both players are still on five bases, with neither backdoor base taken yet. Creator loses an archon. Shine looks like he wants to try something with his corrupters. Shine taking his backdoor base. An infestor is being added to Shine's army. Fungal on all of creator's HTs.
25:00 Shine 198 (6600/4000) vs Creator 184 (3700/1100) +3/3 air and +3 ground armor for Creator. Creator moving behind Shine's bottom left base with his entire army. Shine only has 16 corrupters. Two tempests are abducted and quickly killed. 15 banelings are being morphed. Creator takes his 6th base as well.
27:00 Shine 189 (8000/5000) vs Creator 194 (2700/1500) Shine runs into Creator's upper right base with a bunch of banelings and zerglings, killing it as well as 22 workers. +3 shields starts for Creator. Creator kills Shine's 6th base. +3/3 air is half done for Shine but done for Creator. Shine getting more corrupters. Shine is retaking his 6th base. Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Another tempest is abducted and storms are ignored as it dies. +3 ranged attacks for Shine. Creator re-taking the upper right base.
29:00 Shine 200 (8300/5600) vs Creator 199 (1900/900) Creator tries harassing Shine's lower left base with stalkers but they all die at almost no gain. Creator has 20 voi rays. Creator going for the lower left base with his mass void rays. Fungals go on a lot of the voids, and most of them die. Shine is up to 24 corrupters, but only has 7 infestors.
31:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 195 Shine morphing more banelings near Creator's upper right base. Creator's army goes near the lower left base of Shine and he starts attacking it. Mothership at Creator's 6th is abducted and killed. Infestors show up at the lower left base and fungal some units, killin them with corrupters. Creator loses all but one colossus. Creator loses the upper right base again. Shine is still on the same corrupter/SH/infestor army.
33:00 Shine 174 (10700/7400) vs Creator 172 (1000/600) Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Shine loses a viper near the 6th of Creator. Creator tries harassing with stalkers but fails to do damage with them. More void rays are abducted and killed. A DT is killing banelings lol. Shine goes for Creator's center base where there's only two pylons powering 6 cannons.
35:00 Shine 185 (10200/8500) vs Creator 191 (1100/450) Creator still trying to make a dent in Shine's bases. Creator lost his center base and upper right base again. Infested terrans take the lower left watchtower. More infestors and vipers for Shine. Shine morphing more banelings. Mothership is abducted. All of Creator's units are fungalled and they take heavy damage. Shine engages the army but doesn't actually have enough brute force to break through the core of the army.
37:00 Shine 186 (9000/6900) vs Creator 138 (1100/50) Shine crashing into the third base with a lot of banelings and zerglings. Creator's army is being whittled down with fungals and corrupters. Creator GG's! Samsung wins 3-1!
Templar you must have so much passion to commentate on a SH game.
On December 30 2014 20:17 The_Templar wrote: [quote] 1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
21:00 Shine 191 vs Creator 174 Creator tries running into the fourth but the mothership is abducted and recalled. Shine morphs banelings near Creator's backdoor natural. Banelings get into the natural but there are only a few probes there so they're largely wasted.
23:00 Shine 200 (4500/2500) vs Creator 197 (2500/950) A viper is feedbacked. Creator moving out to the center again. Both players are still on five bases, with neither backdoor base taken yet. Creator loses an archon. Shine looks like he wants to try something with his corrupters. Shine taking his backdoor base. An infestor is being added to Shine's army. Fungal on all of creator's HTs.
25:00 Shine 198 (6600/4000) vs Creator 184 (3700/1100) +3/3 air and +3 ground armor for Creator. Creator moving behind Shine's bottom left base with his entire army. Shine only has 16 corrupters. Two tempests are abducted and quickly killed. 15 banelings are being morphed. Creator takes his 6th base as well.
27:00 Shine 189 (8000/5000) vs Creator 194 (2700/1500) Shine runs into Creator's upper right base with a bunch of banelings and zerglings, killing it as well as 22 workers. +3 shields starts for Creator. Creator kills Shine's 6th base. +3/3 air is half done for Shine but done for Creator. Shine getting more corrupters. Shine is retaking his 6th base. Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Another tempest is abducted and storms are ignored as it dies. +3 ranged attacks for Shine. Creator re-taking the upper right base.
29:00 Shine 200 (8300/5600) vs Creator 199 (1900/900) Creator tries harassing Shine's lower left base with stalkers but they all die at almost no gain. Creator has 20 voi rays. Creator going for the lower left base with his mass void rays. Fungals go on a lot of the voids, and most of them die. Shine is up to 24 corrupters, but only has 7 infestors.
31:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 195 Shine morphing more banelings near Creator's upper right base. Creator's army goes near the lower left base of Shine and he starts attacking it. Mothership at Creator's 6th is abducted and killed. Infestors show up at the lower left base and fungal some units, killin them with corrupters. Creator loses all but one colossus. Creator loses the upper right base again. Shine is still on the same corrupter/SH/infestor army.
33:00 Shine 174 (10700/7400) vs Creator 172 (1000/600) Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Shine loses a viper near the 6th of Creator. Creator tries harassing with stalkers but fails to do damage with them. More void rays are abducted and killed. A DT is killing banelings lol. Shine goes for Creator's center base where there's only two pylons powering 6 cannons.
35:00 Shine 185 (10200/8500) vs Creator 191 (1100/450) Creator still trying to make a dent in Shine's bases. Creator lost his center base and upper right base again. Infested terrans take the lower left watchtower. More infestors and vipers for Shine. Shine morphing more banelings. Mothership is abducted. All of Creator's units are fungalled and they take heavy damage. Shine engages the army but doesn't actually have enough brute force to break through the core of the army.
37:00 Shine 186 (9000/6900) vs Creator 138 (1100/50) Shine crashing into the third base with a lot of banelings and zerglings. Creator's army is being whittled down with fungals and corrupters. Creator GG's! Samsung wins 3-1!
Templar you must have so much passion to commentate on a SH game.
It wasn't MAINLY Swarmhosts, so it was actually very exciting. More exciting than any PvP though, so I can understand his passion
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
Brood Lords aren't good... They are kind of one-trick pony unit, where you can just do some timing attack if opponent didn't scout them or didn't prepare well enough. The moment you have 3+ Tempests, Brood Lords are useless. Same goes against Terran if he makes like ~10 Vikings if he scouts your Broods.
That part with the one trick pony is true. But as Shown yesterday, destroying a lot of the terran while forcing him into making lots of vikings, having a lot of useless supply in the air afterwards can help and improve the lead
You have to realize that if Terran had scouted those Brood Lords on time(in two games if I remember correctly), it would be over for Zerg as he would commit a lot of resources and supply to make something that will get destroyed in 10 seconds and will do almost nothing.
Indeed, it forced Terrans to make Vikings while Zergs were banking resources and just made an Ultralisk switch, but as I said it worked only because of bad scouting from Terran players.
On December 30 2014 20:17 The_Templar wrote: [quote] 1:00 Shine makes a drone. Disappointed already. Shine drones to 10, stops, and then makes an overlord, just to tease everyone. Extractor trick --> more drones for Shine. Creator getting a pylon.
2:00 15 pool for Shine, quickly followed by a hatchery. Creator going nexus first.
3:00 Gateway + 2 gas for Creator. Shine moving out with his first four zerglings. Creator getting a cybernetics core.
4:00 Creator has no units, of course, but a zealot finishes in time. Shine is on just 18 drones but is taking his third. A few probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings. Creator scouts the third base of Shine.
5:00 Stalker for Creator. Shine scouting with his overlord. Stalker for Creator. Creator getting a stargate which is seen by a scouting overlord.
6:00 Shine pauses the game! Apparently his "evil" settings are not properly aligned!
6:00 Phoenix for Creator. Shine has no drones at his third, so Creator's attempts at zealot harass are shut down. Creator getting a second gateway as well as a forge.
7:00 Shine 60 vs Creator 56 Two more gateways for Creator. Creator getting more phoenixes. Shine moving out with 12 zerglings. Roach warren for Creator. Spore crawlers for Shine.
8:00 Shine 69 vs Creator 70 Phoenixes looking around Shine's base, killing an overlord. Robotics facility for Creator. +1 attack for Creator. Shine getting +1 ranged attacks and roach speed. Zergling speed finishing for Shine.
9:00 Shine 84 vs Creator 76 Robotics facility finishes for Creator. Shine tries a zergling runby as Creator takes his third but it's denied. Twilight council and robotics bay on the way for Creator. Shine moving out with roaches. Phoenixes are picking up the roaches of Shine.
10:00 Shine 86 vs Creator 92 Spire and infestation pit for Shine. Creator is lifting roaches with his phoenixes. Shine pauses again hahahaha
10:45 Shine 104 vs Creator 107 Phoenixes are still looking around. Swarm hosts for Shine. One phoenix dies.
11:00 Shine 116 vs Creator 111 Fourth base for Shine. Creator moving out with some gateway units and a void ray. Swarm hosts finish. +2 attack and extended thermal lance for Creator.
12:00 Shine 117 vs Creator118 +1 air attacks and +1/1 melee for Shine. Locusts begin spawning for Shine. Three gateways on the way for Creator. Robotics facility on the way for Creator. Creator adding another stargate. Phoenixes still harass, but don't do much in the face of 6 queens.
13:00 Shine 129 vs Creator 131 Creator going for Shine's back door. Shine getting spine crawlers in at his natural and positioning locusts there. Shine has corrupters. +3 attack for Creator. Hive for Shine. Creator catches and kills some zerglings. Shine nearly kills the MSC but the entire army of Creator recalls. Fourth base for Creator.
14:00 Shine 139 vs Creator 153 Shine has only a little creep spread. More corrupters and swarm hosts for Shine. Creator getting three void rays at a time, as well as +1 air attack.
15:00 Shine 158 vs Creator 175 Burrow for Shine as well as +1 air armor. Corrupters are looking around and find a warp prism, but it survives. Fleet beacon for Creator. +2/2 melee starts for shine. Locusts damage the shields of a colossus.
16:00 Shine 177 vs Creator 188 Creator is sitting between his third and fourth, Shine is at his fourth base. Mothership being made out of the mothership core, which Shine sees. Fifth base for Shine. Warp prism going for Shine's main base.
17:00 Shine 187 vs Creator 192 More zealots being warped in. The spire is focused and killed. A second spire is cancelled and the infestation pit dies. Creator taking a fifth base.
18:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 189 Creator moving out with his laser army of void rays and colossi. A tempest is being added on. Creator getting a dark shrine. Shine cancels the fifth base and runs towards the natural but a zealot is there. Shine gets into Creator's third and kills some probes.
19:00 Shine 173 vs Creator 185 Ultralisk cavern is finished for Shine, so he starts another ultralisk cavern next to it. +3/3 for Shine. +2/2 air for Shine as well. The second ultralisk cavern actually finishes.
20:00 Shine 170 vs Creator 200 Shine has only spread a small radius of creep outside his five bases. Creator tries to harass with stalkers but runs into 4 spine crawlers. 9 drones die somewhere. Baneling speed (!) for Shine. Creator is up to three tempests.
21:00 Shine 191 vs Creator 174 Creator tries running into the fourth but the mothership is abducted and recalled. Shine morphs banelings near Creator's backdoor natural. Banelings get into the natural but there are only a few probes there so they're largely wasted.
23:00 Shine 200 (4500/2500) vs Creator 197 (2500/950) A viper is feedbacked. Creator moving out to the center again. Both players are still on five bases, with neither backdoor base taken yet. Creator loses an archon. Shine looks like he wants to try something with his corrupters. Shine taking his backdoor base. An infestor is being added to Shine's army. Fungal on all of creator's HTs.
25:00 Shine 198 (6600/4000) vs Creator 184 (3700/1100) +3/3 air and +3 ground armor for Creator. Creator moving behind Shine's bottom left base with his entire army. Shine only has 16 corrupters. Two tempests are abducted and quickly killed. 15 banelings are being morphed. Creator takes his 6th base as well.
27:00 Shine 189 (8000/5000) vs Creator 194 (2700/1500) Shine runs into Creator's upper right base with a bunch of banelings and zerglings, killing it as well as 22 workers. +3 shields starts for Creator. Creator kills Shine's 6th base. +3/3 air is half done for Shine but done for Creator. Shine getting more corrupters. Shine is retaking his 6th base. Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Another tempest is abducted and storms are ignored as it dies. +3 ranged attacks for Shine. Creator re-taking the upper right base.
29:00 Shine 200 (8300/5600) vs Creator 199 (1900/900) Creator tries harassing Shine's lower left base with stalkers but they all die at almost no gain. Creator has 20 voi rays. Creator going for the lower left base with his mass void rays. Fungals go on a lot of the voids, and most of them die. Shine is up to 24 corrupters, but only has 7 infestors.
31:00 Shine 195 vs Creator 195 Shine morphing more banelings near Creator's upper right base. Creator's army goes near the lower left base of Shine and he starts attacking it. Mothership at Creator's 6th is abducted and killed. Infestors show up at the lower left base and fungal some units, killin them with corrupters. Creator loses all but one colossus. Creator loses the upper right base again. Shine is still on the same corrupter/SH/infestor army.
33:00 Shine 174 (10700/7400) vs Creator 172 (1000/600) Mothership being rebuilt for Creator. Shine loses a viper near the 6th of Creator. Creator tries harassing with stalkers but fails to do damage with them. More void rays are abducted and killed. A DT is killing banelings lol. Shine goes for Creator's center base where there's only two pylons powering 6 cannons.
35:00 Shine 185 (10200/8500) vs Creator 191 (1100/450) Creator still trying to make a dent in Shine's bases. Creator lost his center base and upper right base again. Infested terrans take the lower left watchtower. More infestors and vipers for Shine. Shine morphing more banelings. Mothership is abducted. All of Creator's units are fungalled and they take heavy damage. Shine engages the army but doesn't actually have enough brute force to break through the core of the army.
37:00 Shine 186 (9000/6900) vs Creator 138 (1100/50) Shine crashing into the third base with a lot of banelings and zerglings. Creator's army is being whittled down with fungals and corrupters. Creator GG's! Samsung wins 3-1!
Templar you must have so much passion to commentate on a SH game.
sooner or later he will elaborate on the path of each locust
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
Brood Lords aren't good... They are kind of one-trick pony unit, where you can just do some timing attack if opponent didn't scout them or didn't prepare well enough. The moment you have 3+ Tempests, Brood Lords are useless. Same goes against Terran if he makes like ~10 Vikings if he scouts your Broods.
That part with the one trick pony is true. But as Shown yesterday, destroying a lot of the terran while forcing him into making lots of vikings, having a lot of useless supply in the air afterwards can help and improve the lead
You have to realize that if Terran scouted those Brood Lords on time(in two games if I remember correctly), it would be over for Zerg as he would commit a lot of resources and supply to make something that will get destroyed in 10 seconds and will do almost nothing.
Indeed, it forced Terrans to make Vikings while Zergs were banking resources and just made an Ultralisk switch, but as I said it worked only because of bad scouting from Terran players.
Broods are nowhere near as weak as you depict them against bio play. They only add nothing/little against mech into air since Terran is already aiming at a composition which can handle them anyway.
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
Brood Lords aren't good... They are kind of one-trick pony unit, where you can just do some timing attack if opponent didn't scout them or didn't prepare well enough. The moment you have 3+ Tempests, Brood Lords are useless. Same goes against Terran if he makes like ~10 Vikings if he scouts your Broods.
That part with the one trick pony is true. But as Shown yesterday, destroying a lot of the terran while forcing him into making lots of vikings, having a lot of useless supply in the air afterwards can help and improve the lead
You have to realize that if Terran scouted those Brood Lords on time(in two games if I remember correctly), it would be over for Zerg as he would commit a lot of resources and supply to make something that will get destroyed in 10 seconds and will do almost nothing.
Indeed, it forced Terrans to make Vikings while Zergs were banking resources and just made an Ultralisk switch, but as I said it worked only because of bad scouting from Terran players.
Broods are nowhere near as weak as you depict them against bio play. They only add nothing/little against mech into air since Terran is already aiming at a composition which can handle them anyway.
They are quite weak if you are prepared well for them, where Ultras are always good if you manage to get to them(against Bio that is). And it is definitely easier to get to Ultras than to Brood Lords unless you are playing that Dark's ZvT style and you already have some Corruptors from Lair tech, but even then you are getting Ultras faster.
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
Brood Lords aren't good... They are kind of one-trick pony unit, where you can just do some timing attack if opponent didn't scout them or didn't prepare well enough. The moment you have 3+ Tempests, Brood Lords are useless. Same goes against Terran if he makes like ~10 Vikings if he scouts your Broods.
That part with the one trick pony is true. But as Shown yesterday, destroying a lot of the terran while forcing him into making lots of vikings, having a lot of useless supply in the air afterwards can help and improve the lead
You have to realize that if Terran had scouted those Brood Lords on time(in two games if I remember correctly), it would be over for Zerg as he would commit a lot of resources and supply to make something that will get destroyed in 10 seconds and will do almost nothing.
Indeed, it forced Terrans to make Vikings while Zergs were banking resources and just made an Ultralisk switch, but as I said it worked only because of bad scouting from Terran players.
well you are assuming the Zerg doesn't protect the BLs While there are corruptors and other tools to protect them. If BL were so helpless, BL Infestor dominating the end of the WoL era wouldn't be a thing. And Terran didn't get better tools against it so its still vaible... not even that, its still extremely strong
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
Brood Lords aren't good... They are kind of one-trick pony unit, where you can just do some timing attack if opponent didn't scout them or didn't prepare well enough. The moment you have 3+ Tempests, Brood Lords are useless. Same goes against Terran if he makes like ~10 Vikings if he scouts your Broods.
That part with the one trick pony is true. But as Shown yesterday, destroying a lot of the terran while forcing him into making lots of vikings, having a lot of useless supply in the air afterwards can help and improve the lead
You have to realize that if Terran scouted those Brood Lords on time(in two games if I remember correctly), it would be over for Zerg as he would commit a lot of resources and supply to make something that will get destroyed in 10 seconds and will do almost nothing.
Indeed, it forced Terrans to make Vikings while Zergs were banking resources and just made an Ultralisk switch, but as I said it worked only because of bad scouting from Terran players.
Broods are nowhere near as weak as you depict them against bio play. They only add nothing/little against mech into air since Terran is already aiming at a composition which can handle them anyway.
They are quite weak if you are prepared well for them, where Ultras are always good if you manage to get to them(against Bio that is). And it is definitely easier to get to Ultras than to Brood Lords unless you are playing that Dark's ZvT style and you already have some Corruptors from Lair tech, but even then you are getting Ultras faster.
What does it mean to be prepared well for them? You cannot just prepare for BLs, especially because its not the Meta anymore. O forgot the compared upgrades, that is different now ofc. But when you go bio, you don't benefit from combined mech upgrades, so its still extremely strong vs BIO especially with fungal
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On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
Brood Lords aren't good... They are kind of one-trick pony unit, where you can just do some timing attack if opponent didn't scout them or didn't prepare well enough. The moment you have 3+ Tempests, Brood Lords are useless. Same goes against Terran if he makes like ~10 Vikings if he scouts your Broods.
That part with the one trick pony is true. But as Shown yesterday, destroying a lot of the terran while forcing him into making lots of vikings, having a lot of useless supply in the air afterwards can help and improve the lead
You have to realize that if Terran scouted those Brood Lords on time(in two games if I remember correctly), it would be over for Zerg as he would commit a lot of resources and supply to make something that will get destroyed in 10 seconds and will do almost nothing.
Indeed, it forced Terrans to make Vikings while Zergs were banking resources and just made an Ultralisk switch, but as I said it worked only because of bad scouting from Terran players.
Broods are nowhere near as weak as you depict them against bio play. They only add nothing/little against mech into air since Terran is already aiming at a composition which can handle them anyway.
They are quite weak if you are prepared well for them, where Ultras are always good if you manage to get to them(against Bio that is). And it is definitely easier to get to Ultras than to Brood Lords unless you are playing that Dark's ZvT style and you already have some Corruptors from Lair tech, but even then you are getting Ultras faster.
What does it mean to be prepared well for them? You cannot just prepare for BLs, especially because its not the Meta anymore. O forgot the compared upgrades, that is different now ofc. But when you go bio, you don't benefit from combined mech upgrades, so its still extremely strong vs BIO especially with fungal
Is this assuming the terran stays on bio mine until the late game? Eventually when terran gets upgrade for the hellbats/tanks/mines, the vikings will have the +3 weapon upgrades, and all terran has to do is to switch to pump out vikings from two reactors. The only way terran can lose to this is when he doesn't scout it until it hits.
Haha I love how the next Match just showed again how strong BL can be, even in ZvP
And Fungals as well. Finally its coming back. I always thought "why did it disappear it can be EXTREMELY strong in some situations" And that is what keeps curious alive for 20 mins now...
On December 30 2014 20:37 Rollora wrote: Fungals are still sick good, its pure lazyness and having even better tools, that Zergs don't use it on a regular base anymore... so are Brood Lords
Brood Lords aren't good... They are kind of one-trick pony unit, where you can just do some timing attack if opponent didn't scout them or didn't prepare well enough. The moment you have 3+ Tempests, Brood Lords are useless. Same goes against Terran if he makes like ~10 Vikings if he scouts your Broods.
That part with the one trick pony is true. But as Shown yesterday, destroying a lot of the terran while forcing him into making lots of vikings, having a lot of useless supply in the air afterwards can help and improve the lead
You have to realize that if Terran had scouted those Brood Lords on time(in two games if I remember correctly), it would be over for Zerg as he would commit a lot of resources and supply to make something that will get destroyed in 10 seconds and will do almost nothing.
Indeed, it forced Terrans to make Vikings while Zergs were banking resources and just made an Ultralisk switch, but as I said it worked only because of bad scouting from Terran players.
No lol, do you even watch or play lategame TvZ at all?
You can try to twist it as much as you want, but the fact of the matter remains that Zerg tech switch >>>> Terran response because of the larva inject mechanic.
It only takes ~30 seconds for broodlords to morph, and ~70 seconds total from larva -> corruptors -> broodlords. That's not nearly enough time to get out enough tempests or vikings. You would need to preemptively build 4+ stargates/starports in anticipation of a broodlord switch upon seeing a greater spire, in which case the zerg doesn't need to build any broodlords at all if no "bad scouting from Zerg players". In an even game, this put you behind both in terms of resources and multitasking.
And even if the T player did annihilate all broodlords with a cloud of vikings, they don't NEED to scout for an ultra switch because they should KNOW that it is coming 99% of the time. The problem still lies within the fact that ultra/bane/hydra will be in your face in 2 minutes, but again in an even game, you won't have enough time/resources to preemptively make those 10+ barracks with tech labs and to get out the 20 or so marauders required to deal with ultra/bane. To exacerbate the issue further, you would need to sacrifice all your vikings (trading very inefficiently) in order to free up supply - not exactly something you want as Terran as the Zerg should have a much larger bank than you do.
Just go dig through some late game TvZs involving broodlords into ultras; the Terran usually wins if he's already ahead and prepared well for the switch, but loses if the game is relatively even due to a lack of marauders.
TL;DR: When relatively even, broodlords into ultras is a pretty good way to get ahead or end the game for the zerg due to the abuse of the larva inject mechanic.
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